Why do Premillennialists not believe that 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-13 refer to the same event?

[rebuilder 454]

Then they say: we haven't replaced anybody we never thought we replaced anybody that's not true that we think we replaced the Jews

 

[WPM]

From Google:
"Interpretation of the Millennium:

Amillennialists believe the "thousand years" in Revelation 20 are symbolic, representing the entire period from Christ's ascension to His return, rather than a literal 1,000-year reign on earth.
Current Reign of Christ:
They see Christ's reign as already begun spiritually through the Church and believers, and that the kingdom of God is active in history through Jesus Christ.
No Future Literal Reign:
Amillennialists reject the idea of a future, literal 1,000-year reign of Christ on earth, with a physical kingdom.
Focus on Spiritual Reign:
They emphasize the spiritual nature of Christ's reign during the current church age, with believers reigning with Christ in heaven.
Final Judgment and New Creation:
Amillennialists believe that at the end of the church age, Christ will return in final judgment, establishing a permanent reign in a new heaven and new earth."

Google understands Amil better than you. You totally avoided my questions.

Because Premils cannot refute Amil, they are resorting to AI and Google to help. All this, as their boat quickly sinks. It is time to give her a decent burial beside her offspring Pretrib.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Google understands Amil better than you. You totally avoided my questions.

Because Premils cannot refute Amil, they are resorting to AI and Google to help. All this, as their boat quickly sinks. It is time to give her a decent burial beside her offspring Pretrib.

Pot <> Kettle.
All the error message herolders believe they are right.
That is their energy.
Whether they are right or not is secondary to them.
Amil is most likely the best example of erroneous doctrine clung to with white knuckles by deceived individuals.

It is pure error with one grand canyon leap after another .

Shameful.
How did this happen?
Just wow.

 

[WPM]

Pot <> Kettle.
All the error message herolders believe they are right.
That is their energy.
Whether they are right or not is secondary to them.
Amil is most likely the best example of erroneous doctrine clung to with white knuckles by deceived individuals.

It is pure error with one grand canyon leap after another .

Shameful.
How did this happen?
Just wow.

Again, nothing of biblical worth from you. That is your MO. You prefer insults.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Then they say: we haven't replaced anybody we never thought we replaced anybody that's not true that we think we replaced the Jews

You have nothing of substance and nothing more than lies to offer. You're all hot air. No one takes you seriously even a tiny bit. Remember that.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

From Google:
"Interpretation of the Millennium:

Amillennialists believe the "thousand years" in Revelation 20 are symbolic, representing the entire period from Christ's ascension to His return, rather than a literal 1,000-year reign on earth.
Current Reign of Christ:
They see Christ's reign as already begun spiritually through the Church and believers, and that the kingdom of God is active in history through Jesus Christ.
No Future Literal Reign:
Amillennialists reject the idea of a future, literal 1,000-year reign of Christ on earth, with a physical kingdom.
Focus on Spiritual Reign:
They emphasize the spiritual nature of Christ's reign during the current church age, with believers reigning with Christ in heaven.
Final Judgment and New Creation:
Amillennialists believe that at the end of the church age, Christ will return in final judgment, establishing a permanent reign in a new heaven and new earth."

Where does any of that say anything about anyone being replaced? We agree with scripture which says that being part of the kingdom of God has always been dependent on faith and not on one's nationality and that Jew and Gentile believers are all equally part of it as one body of Christ. No one is replaced.

 

[covenantee]

Then they say: we haven't replaced anybody we never thought we replaced anybody that's not true that we think we replaced the Jews

What's been replaced?

Has any Jew's physical DNA been replaced? No

Has any Jew's opportunity to receive Christ been replaced? No

So what's been replaced?

 

[WPM]

Then they say: we haven't replaced anybody we never thought we replaced anybody that's not true that we think we replaced the Jews

Who do you think they think they have replaced?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Who do you think they think they have replaced?

This question never gets answered. They accuse us of believing in replacement theology, but can never tell us who we claim is being replaced.

Some will say that we Amills have the church replacing national Israel, but that isn't true. We include Israelite believers among God's people just as has always been the case. Gentile believers have been added to God's kingdom and are His people as well. So, who do we have being replaced? No one.

Some Jews were cut off and some Gentiles were grafted in, but no one was replaced. It's not as if some Jews had to be cut off in order to make room for Gentiles to be grafted in to replace them. No, Gentile believers would've been grafted in even if no Jews had been cut off. So, no one is replaced.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Who do you think they think they have replaced?

Wink, wink.
We say it all wrong...correct?
Show us the correct method of saying the church has now replaced the Jews.

 

[rebuilder 454]

This question never gets answered. They accuse us of believing in replacement theology, but can never tell us who we claim is being replaced.

Some will say that we Amills have the church replacing national Israel, but that isn't true. We include Israelite believers among God's people just as has always been the case. Gentile believers have been added to God's kingdom and are His people as well. So, who do we have being replaced? No one.

Some Jews were cut off and some Gentiles were grafted in, but no one was replaced. It's not as if some Jews had to be cut off in order to make room for Gentiles to be grafted in to replace them. No, Gentile believers would've been grafted in even if no Jews had been cut off. So, no one is replaced.

Smoke and mirrors.
Replacement theology is ancient.
Then Israel was regathered.
That did not stop them/you.
Show us the correct way to say God is done with the Jews.
Maybe "Spiritual Israilies"

 

[rebuilder 454]

What's been replaced?

Has any Jew's physical DNA been replaced? No

Has any Jew's opportunity to receive Christ been replaced? No

So what's been replaced?

Maybe you guys are " Spiritual Israelites "

 

[rebuilder 454]

You have nothing of substance and nothing more than lies to offer. You're all hot air. No one takes you seriously even a tiny bit. Remember that.

Well all i can ssy is You have nothing of substance and nothing more than lies to offer. You're all hot air. No one takes you seriously even a tiny bit. Remember that.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Again, nothing of biblical worth from you. That is your MO. You prefer insults.

Well all I can say is Again, nothing of biblical worth from you. That is your MO. You prefer insults.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Then they say: we haven't replaced anybody we never thought we replaced anybody that's not true that we think we replaced the Jews

Yep
They came right on cue and started that exact smoke and mirrors.
Accused me of all kinds of character flaws.
Ahem....right on cue.
Then , as predicted, invoke their gang thuggery and High five each other in their evil laughter.
Plain evil.
Their hearts come out eventually through all that masked hatred.
Jesus help them.

 

[WPM]

Well all I can say is Again, nothing of biblical worth from you. That is your MO. You prefer insults.

No! You made the false allegation that we believed in Replacement Theology. We questioned that. The burden of proof is with you to prove what you are alleging. So far you have presented nothing. That sums up your argument. Nothing!

 

[WPM]

Wink, wink.
We say it all wrong...correct?
Show us the correct method of saying the church has now replaced the Jews.

We have not replaced anyone. We have been grafted into true believing elect Israel (the remnant of God).

 

[covenantee]

Maybe you guys are " Spiritual Israelites "

No maybe about it. The Israel of God (Galatians 6:16) are Jews and Gentiles in Christ, i.e. Spiritual Israelites.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Wink, wink.
We say it all wrong...correct?
Show us the correct method of saying the church has now replaced the Jews.

How exactly do we teach that the church has replaced the Jews? You're the one making the accusation here, so explain what you mean by this.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Maybe you guys are " Spiritual Israelites "

I certainly am. And, yes, they are, too. And so are you and you don't even know it, which is incredibly sad.