Infant Baptism is not given in scripture.

[Hobie]

Baptism in the Bible is by full immersion and it baptism knowing consent and moral responsibility, which a infant does not posses. One must know and understand what it entails in ones self as baptism is a public statement to commit one's life to Jesus and it demonstrates that the person has repented of sin and wishes to live a life in Christ.

Since Jesus is the way the truth and the life, obviously you would look at His example and His revealed will, especially on being baptized. The scriptures are our guide, and through them we can learn to follow in the footsteps of Jesus and we begin at his commission to preach the gospel to the world.
"...Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved; but he that believeth not will be condemned." Mark 16:15-16

Notice what it says, "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved.". It is not enough to believe the gospel and stand on the sidelines. One must accept it and live it as many will find at the end.

"Not everyone who saith unto Me, 'Lord, Lord', shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he that doeth the will of My Father which is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name, cast out demons in Your name, and in Thy name done many wonders?' And then I will profess unto them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, ye that work iniquity!'" Matthew 7:21-23

There will be many who profess faith in Jesus, they preach His name, they even profess to have done great works in the name of Jesus, but they practice iniquity. The word iniquity that is used here is translated from the Greek "anomia", which means lawlessness or transgressing the law, and transgression of the law is the only definition of sin in the Scripture.

"Whosoever commiteth sin transgresseth also the law, for sin is the transgression of the law." 1 John 3:4

Obedience is the fruit of a relationship with God. It is not enough to to have a just a intellectual or factual knowledge of the law or to keep it because we know it is right (look under the definition of legalism). The law must be kept from the heart, it must become part of the mind or character, and with the Holy Spirit this change is possible to enable us to reflect the love of Christ to a world in need. The believer must be brought into harmony with God's law, he must be a doer of what Christ declares.

"Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of Mine, and doeth them, I will liken unto a wise man which built his house upon a rock..." Matthew 7:24

So now we find that baptism is the symbol of the changed life. It is the symbol of rebirth, a demonstration of one that lives in harmony with what we are given from God. Being washed means being justified before God because of the merits of Jesus Christ. Baptism is the outward sign of the acceptance of the covenant relationship with God, the new covenant that God promised to spiritual Israel.

"Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah; not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, which My covenant they brake, although I was a husband unto them, saith the Lord. But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord: I will put My law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people." Jeremiah 31:31-33

Spiritual Israel will keep the law, but they will keep it from the heart. Baptism is a very serious step to undertake and requires an understanding of the issues involved. Baptism is also more than the outward symbol of rebirth. It is also the outward sign of entrance into the body of Christ, His church.

"For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit." 1 Corinthians 12:13.

"And you are the body of Christ, and members in part." 1 Corinthians 12:27

Those who accept Jesus become part of the church.
"Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved." Acts 2:47

If by being baptized we demonstrate our acceptance of the covenant relationship with God, then we become a part of the covenant people of God. As there is only one body, it is essential that careful consideration be given to this choice.
"... so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and everyone members of one another." Romans 12:5

For as the body is one and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body, so also is Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body - whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free - and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. For the body is not one member by many. But now are they many members, yea but one body. 1 Corinthians 12:12-14, 20

"There is one body and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling. One Lord, one faith, one baptism," Ephesians 4:4-5

The true body of Christ must teach obedience to the law of God and must have faith in the transforming power of the Spirit of God. One cannot be baptized and live apart from the true body of Christ. Now about the mode of Baptism, the Greek word 'baptizo' means 'I immerse' and 'baptisma' means 'immersion'. As with all things, Christ should be our example. When Jesus was baptized, He was baptized by immersion.

"And Jesus when He was baptized, went up straightway out of the water; and lo, the heavens were opened unto Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting upon Him; and lo, a voice from Heaven saying, 'This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." Matthew 3:16-17

Jesus was baptized in the river. Also John baptized in the river because he needed water that was deep enough.

"And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized...". John 3:23

 

[Hobie]

Now infant baptism crept in from another origin and it wasnt from Gods Word, and it wasnt as some claim for evangelism, as how can a infant understand the gospel truths, he cannot. No it came from paganism, and as the Church of Rome spread this across the remnants of the empire, the false doctrine came to be accepted, but some of the true believers fought against this false doctrine, and the Anabaptists were one of them. So lets dig down and see what Anabaptist beliefs and doctrines were.

What I found was the Anabaptists were distinct at that time because of their assertion of the necessity of adult baptism, rejecting the infant baptism practiced by the Roman Catholic Church. They believed that true baptism required a public confession of both sin and faith, which could only be accomplished as an adult exercise of free will. Anabaptists also held to the belief in the separation of church and state, and the concept that the church represents the community of saved. Some of their doctrines can be seen in light of the times with the other Reformers changing the long held beliefs coming from the Catholic Church, as they struggled to understand the light being given.

The original beliefs that they had at the start were the following:
..They had three unique beliefs, unique from the established churches but very biblical:
(1) Believer's Baptism The Anabaptists held that a person must first believe the gospel before he could be accepted into the Church with the sign of water baptism. This is in accordance with the teachings of their Lord Jesus who placed believing ahead of baptism (Mt 28:19 and Mk 16:16).
(2) Pacifism The Anabaptists held that one could not obtain or protect his rights by the use of force. This is in accordance with the teachings of their Lord Jesus who commanded his followers not to resist an evil man (Mt 5:39 and John 18:36).
(3) Community of Goods The Anabaptists held that one could not have private property but must share all his goods in common with Christ's brothers and sisters. This is in accordance with the teachings of their Lord Jesus who said that no one could be his followers unless they gave up all of their possessions (Luke 14:33, also Mt 6:19-34, Mt 19:21, Luke 12:33, John 13:34-35, Acts 2:44-47 and Acts 4:32-5:11).
Today most Anabaptists do not hold to item 3 above, community of goods, but it was part of the original Anabaptists belief.
Anabaptists Today

 

[Hobie]

Here is a good description of true baptism and its importance, and clearly a infant cannot be ready for what is required, take a look..
"Why Is Baptism Important?

In general, the act of baptism is important because Jesus instructed His disciples—and, by extension, all Christians—to use it as the means for bringing others into the fold. Matthew 28:18-20 says: “Then Jesus came to them and said, ‘All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.’”


In fact, John 3:22 suggests that Jesus first baptized the disciples before sending them out to baptize others: “After this, Jesus and his disciples went out into the Judean countryside, where he spent some time with them, and baptized.” This highlights the importance of Christian baptism from the very beginning of the history of this faith. Baptism also serves more specific religious and social purposes, all of which mark the beginning of a person’s new life as a follower of God.

3 Reasons Why Baptism Is Important

Although it’s possible to embrace Christian beliefs and practices without taking part in this act, getting baptized is an essential part of becoming a Christian for three main reasons. Let’s explore the significance of each.

1. Personal Identification With Christ

The journey of faith begins when people come to believe in Jesus as their Lord and Savior. Although this is an important step, baptism allows believers to officially renounce a life of sin in order to become united with Christ instead. It effectively represents the death of your old life and the birth of a new one. This is what it means to be “reborn in Christ.”

2. Entering the Christian Faith

Baptism also marks the occasion on which individuals officially become Christians. After baptism, each believer becomes part of their church and of the Christian faith as a whole, which is also sometimes called the body of Christ. Ephesians 4:4-6 makes this especially clear: “There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.”

This is significant because it means that baptized individuals aren’t alone in renouncing sin and living a godly life. They have an entire community to support them and offer them guidance as they deepen their faith and share God’s love with others. In turn, baptized Christians are called on to support members of their church and do good work in society as well.

3. Public Confession of Faith

If you’ve ever tried to give up a bad habit (or start a positive new one), you know that you’re more likely to succeed if you tell someone about it who will hold you accountable. Better yet, you’re more likely to reach your goal if you work at it with someone else who’s trying to accomplish the same or a similar goal. Becoming a Christian through baptism is a bit like sharing your commitment to a better way of life. Because it’s witnessed by family, friends, loved ones, and church members, we can think of baptism as a public confession of faith.

 

[JohnDB]

There is no such thing as infant baptism practiced by any Christian denomination.

There are Christenings....where the Child is given its "Christian" name and dedication to raising them in the knowledge of God. Some even speak blessings over babies....but that's as far as it goes.

Nobody baptized babies.

 

[Hobie]

There is no such thing as infant baptism practiced by any Christian denomination.

There are Christenings....where the Child is given its "Christian" name and dedication to raising them in the knowledge of God. Some even speak blessings over babies....but that's as far as it goes.

Nobody baptized babies.

Well it looks like most of what the church of Rome brought it, the origin is from paganism. Take a look at this outline from the Baptists..

Nowhere in the BIBLE (or the Apocrypha) does anyone ever immerse babies or pour or sprinkle water on a baby’s head at any time for any reason!

INFANT BABTISM IS NOT IN THE BIBLE, and the Catholic Church admits it in their writings. Notice these quotations:

• NEW CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA (1967): “It makes little difference whether Scripture has any actual references to the practice of infant Baptism or not. Probably it can be conceded that no explicit references are to be found there.”
• CONFRATERNITY HOME STUDY COURSE: “There is no need for us to search through the New Testament to find instances where the Baptism of infants is described. In a little while we will speak about the content of the New Testament, and the relation of the Church and the Bible in the one Holy Spirit. For the moment, it is enough to know that the Holy Spirit, speaking through the living Church, Christ’s body, has taught that Baptism is necessary for every human being, infant or adult.”
• T. Bokenkotter, ESSENTIAL CATHOLICISM, p. 195: “It is only when we reach the second century that we find specific evidence of infant baptism. … In any case, within a hundred years after Augustine, infant baptism became the norm.”
• THE CATHOLIC ALMANAC: “The baptism of infants has always been considered valid and the general practice of infant baptism was well established by the fifth century.”
• Kohmescher, S.M., CATHOLICISM TODAY, p. 77: “Infant baptism is the common practice in the Catholic Church today. In the early centuries adult baptism was the common practice.” (Emphasis has been added to quotations.)

Q: IF INFANT BAPTISM IS NOT TAUGHT IN THE BIBLE….WHERE DID IT COME FROM?

A: “BAPTIZING” BABIES WAS A PRACTICE OF PAGAN RELIGIONS!

It was typical of the Catholic Church throughout its history to adapt the practices of pagan religions and “christianize” their rituals. The Catholic practices of

• rosary beads
• praying to statues
• popish garb
• terms “pontiff,” “father,” etc.

are not found in SCRIPTURE (some of the above are even CONDEMNED by the BIBLE; see Matthew 23:9; Exodus 20:1-4), but were PAGAN PRACTICES that the papists brought in to their Roman rites. In their efforts to convert the heathen it seems the heathen did as good a job of converting them!

THIS IS ALSO TRUE OF THE PRACTICE OF “BAPTIZING” BABIES. We present documentation here to show that INFANT “BAPTISM” WAS WIDESPREAD AMONGST THE PAGAN (NON-CHRISTIAN) RELIGIONS OF THE WORLD, LONG BEFORE THE ROMANISTS BEGAN PRACTICING IT.

• ENCYCLOPEDIA AMERICANA (1990): “Among the GREEKS AND ROMANS the newborn child was bathed and named, and recognized by the father as his own.”
• Eliade, ENCYCLOPEDIA OF RELIGION (1987): “In EGYPT, the Book of Going Forth by Day (17) contains a treatise on the baptism of newborn children, which is performed to purify them of blemishes acquired in the womb.”
• Hastings, ENCYCLOPEDIA OF RELIGION AND ETHICS (1958): “In UVEA, at the feast held after the birth of a child, his head is ceremonially sprinkled with water.”
• “Among the YORUBA NEGROES a priest is sent for at a birth and it is his duty to discover from the deities which ancestor means to dwell in the child, so that he may be called by his name. At the actual name-giving ceremony the child’s face is sprinkled with water from a vessel which stands under a sacred tree…. Such ceremonies are general in WEST AFRICA. Further south, among the MFIOTE people of Loango, when the child is three or four months old he is sprinkled with water in the presence of all the dwellers in the village, and is called by the name of an illustrious ancestor.”
• “…(A)mong the tribes of th GABUN(:) When a birth has taken place, the fact is announced by a public crier…. The people then assemble, and the child is brought out before them. The headman of the family or village sprinkles water upon it, gives it a name, and blesses it.”
• “Similar rites are found all over the MALAY ARCHIPELAGO, as the following instances will show. In SUMATRA, at the name-giving ceremony, the child is carried to the nearest running water by the men: there the father dips it and gives it a name.”
• “With the negritoes of the PHILIPPINES the mouth of the newborn child is filled with salt; after this the women hasten with it to the nearest brook, in which they bathe it. The name-giving occurs at the same time…. The use of salt occurs among several peoples as a ritual act, and is part of the baptismal ceremony of the Roman Church.”
• “The MAYAS believed that the ceremonial ablution washed away evil, hindered the influence of evil demons, and gave the child inclinations to good. … The priest then signed the child and sprinkled him with sacred water.”
• “…(T)he order of baptism among the AZTECS began, ‘O child, receive the water of the Lord of the world, which is our life; it is to wash and purify; may these drops remove the sin which was given thee before the creation of the world.”
• “The PERUVIAN rite had much the same purpose. A priest immersed the child in water, at the same time exorcizing evil spirits from it, and bidding them enter the water, which was then buried in the ground.”
• “…(W)ith the HINDUS, ritual ablutions were used to remove the guilt of sins when these were confessed to the priests.”
• “Among the TIBETAN AND MONGOLIAN BUDDHISTS the ceremony takes place from three to ten days after birth. Candles are lit on the house-altars, and over a vessel of water the lama repeats the consecration formulae. He then immerses the child in the water three times, signs it, and calls if by its name.”
• “In JAPAN the name is given to the child when it is a month old, water being at the same time sprinkled upon it.”
• “…(A)mong the CHINESE…to prevent a demon soul taking possession of the child’s body in the absence of its own soul, the mother mixes the ash of banana-skin with water, and paints a cross with this mixture on the sleeping child’s forehead.”
• “The heathen TEUTONS had a baptismal rite long before Christian influences had reached them. The ceremony took place immediately after birth, the father sprinkling the child, giving it a name, and consecrating it to the household god.”
• “…(T)he LAPPS…in heathen times, had a ceremony called laugo…. This consisted in bathing or sprinkling the child with water in when alder-twigs had been placed, while a name was given to it, and it was placed under the protection of Sarakha, the birth-goddess.”

IT IS THE TEACHING OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT BABIES ARE BORN DEMON-POSSESSED AND NEED TO BE EXORCISED:

DAttwater, A CATHOLIC DICTIONARY; N.Y.: MacMillan, 1956; p. 44:

“At the solemn baptism of a child, it is first exorcised, signed with the cross and salt is administered…then…another exorcism….”

IN THE BOOK THE RITES OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH (approved by the national conference of Catholic Bishops, published by authority of Pope Paul VI), we find several “PRAYERS OF EXORCISM AND ANOINTING BEFORE BAPTISM.” (pp. 380-381, 398)

According to the Catholic Church, “baptism is necessary for salvation” (CATHOLIC ALMANAC, 1985, p. 231).

Catholics, Episcopalians, Lutherans, Methodists, and Presbyterians all sprinkle or pour water on babies, calling it “baptism.” Eastern Othodox churches immerse babies.

Catholic doctrine teaches that babies that die un”baptized” “cannot enter heaven” (NEW CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA, 1987). Augustine (died A.D. 430) taught that un”baptized” babies suffer pain in HELL! (McBrien, Catholicism, p. 1154).

DOES GOD KICK BABIES OUT OF HEAVEN BECAUSE NO ONE POURED WATER ON THEIR HEADS IN AN ACT OF PAGAN PRACTICE????? NO!

What does the BIBLE say about SALVATION? SALVATION IS BY FAITH, NOT WORKS:

• EPHESIANS 2:8-9. “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.”
• ACTS 16:31. “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved.”
• JOHN 3:16. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
• JOHN 3:18. “He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”
• JOHN 3:36. “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

(NOTE: Mark 16:15; Acts 2:38; 22:16, etc. do not mention WATER….see Matthew 3:11; 1 Corinthians 12:13; Ephesians 4:4-5)

 

[JohnDB]

Well it looks like most of what the church of Rome brought it, the origin is from paganism. Take a look at this outline from the Baptists..

Nowhere in the BIBLE (or the Apocrypha) does anyone ever immerse babies or pour or sprinkle water on a baby’s head at any time for any reason!

INFANT BABTISM IS NOT IN THE BIBLE, and the Catholic Church admits it in their writings. Notice these quotations:

• NEW CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA (1967): “It makes little difference whether Scripture has any actual references to the practice of infant Baptism or not. Probably it can be conceded that no explicit references are to be found there.”
• CONFRATERNITY HOME STUDY COURSE: “There is no need for us to search through the New Testament to find instances where the Baptism of infants is described. In a little while we will speak about the content of the New Testament, and the relation of the Church and the Bible in the one Holy Spirit. For the moment, it is enough to know that the Holy Spirit, speaking through the living Church, Christ’s body, has taught that Baptism is necessary for every human being, infant or adult.”
• T. Bokenkotter, ESSENTIAL CATHOLICISM, p. 195: “It is only when we reach the second century that we find specific evidence of infant baptism. … In any case, within a hundred years after Augustine, infant baptism became the norm.”
• THE CATHOLIC ALMANAC: “The baptism of infants has always been considered valid and the general practice of infant baptism was well established by the fifth century.”
• Kohmescher, S.M., CATHOLICISM TODAY, p. 77: “Infant baptism is the common practice in the Catholic Church today. In the early centuries adult baptism was the common practice.” (Emphasis has been added to quotations.)

Q: IF INFANT BAPTISM IS NOT TAUGHT IN THE BIBLE….WHERE DID IT COME FROM?

A: “BAPTIZING” BABIES WAS A PRACTICE OF PAGAN RELIGIONS!

It was typical of the Catholic Church throughout its history to adapt the practices of pagan religions and “christianize” their rituals. The Catholic practices of

• rosary beads
• praying to statues
• popish garb
• terms “pontiff,” “father,” etc.

are not found in SCRIPTURE (some of the above are even CONDEMNED by the BIBLE; see Matthew 23:9; Exodus 20:1-4), but were PAGAN PRACTICES that the papists brought in to their Roman rites. In their efforts to convert the heathen it seems the heathen did as good a job of converting them!

THIS IS ALSO TRUE OF THE PRACTICE OF “BAPTIZING” BABIES. We present documentation here to show that INFANT “BAPTISM” WAS WIDESPREAD AMONGST THE PAGAN (NON-CHRISTIAN) RELIGIONS OF THE WORLD, LONG BEFORE THE ROMANISTS BEGAN PRACTICING IT.

• ENCYCLOPEDIA AMERICANA (1990): “Among the GREEKS AND ROMANS the newborn child was bathed and named, and recognized by the father as his own.”
• Eliade, ENCYCLOPEDIA OF RELIGION (1987): “In EGYPT, the Book of Going Forth by Day (17) contains a treatise on the baptism of newborn children, which is performed to purify them of blemishes acquired in the womb.”
• Hastings, ENCYCLOPEDIA OF RELIGION AND ETHICS (1958): “In UVEA, at the feast held after the birth of a child, his head is ceremonially sprinkled with water.”
• “Among the YORUBA NEGROES a priest is sent for at a birth and it is his duty to discover from the deities which ancestor means to dwell in the child, so that he may be called by his name. At the actual name-giving ceremony the child’s face is sprinkled with water from a vessel which stands under a sacred tree…. Such ceremonies are general in WEST AFRICA. Further south, among the MFIOTE people of Loango, when the child is three or four months old he is sprinkled with water in the presence of all the dwellers in the village, and is called by the name of an illustrious ancestor.”
• “…(A)mong the tribes of th GABUN(:) When a birth has taken place, the fact is announced by a public crier…. The people then assemble, and the child is brought out before them. The headman of the family or village sprinkles water upon it, gives it a name, and blesses it.”
• “Similar rites are found all over the MALAY ARCHIPELAGO, as the following instances will show. In SUMATRA, at the name-giving ceremony, the child is carried to the nearest running water by the men: there the father dips it and gives it a name.”
• “With the negritoes of the PHILIPPINES the mouth of the newborn child is filled with salt; after this the women hasten with it to the nearest brook, in which they bathe it. The name-giving occurs at the same time…. The use of salt occurs among several peoples as a ritual act, and is part of the baptismal ceremony of the Roman Church.”
• “The MAYAS believed that the ceremonial ablution washed away evil, hindered the influence of evil demons, and gave the child inclinations to good. … The priest then signed the child and sprinkled him with sacred water.”
• “…(T)he order of baptism among the AZTECS began, ‘O child, receive the water of the Lord of the world, which is our life; it is to wash and purify; may these drops remove the sin which was given thee before the creation of the world.”
• “The PERUVIAN rite had much the same purpose. A priest immersed the child in water, at the same time exorcizing evil spirits from it, and bidding them enter the water, which was then buried in the ground.”
• “…(W)ith the HINDUS, ritual ablutions were used to remove the guilt of sins when these were confessed to the priests.”
• “Among the TIBETAN AND MONGOLIAN BUDDHISTS the ceremony takes place from three to ten days after birth. Candles are lit on the house-altars, and over a vessel of water the lama repeats the consecration formulae. He then immerses the child in the water three times, signs it, and calls if by its name.”
• “In JAPAN the name is given to the child when it is a month old, water being at the same time sprinkled upon it.”
• “…(A)mong the CHINESE…to prevent a demon soul taking possession of the child’s body in the absence of its own soul, the mother mixes the ash of banana-skin with water, and paints a cross with this mixture on the sleeping child’s forehead.”
• “The heathen TEUTONS had a baptismal rite long before Christian influences had reached them. The ceremony took place immediately after birth, the father sprinkling the child, giving it a name, and consecrating it to the household god.”
• “…(T)he LAPPS…in heathen times, had a ceremony called laugo…. This consisted in bathing or sprinkling the child with water in when alder-twigs had been placed, while a name was given to it, and it was placed under the protection of Sarakha, the birth-goddess.”

IT IS THE TEACHING OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT BABIES ARE BORN DEMON-POSSESSED AND NEED TO BE EXORCISED:

DAttwater, A CATHOLIC DICTIONARY; N.Y.: MacMillan, 1956; p. 44:

“At the solemn baptism of a child, it is first exorcised, signed with the cross and salt is administered…then…another exorcism….”

IN THE BOOK THE RITES OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH (approved by the national conference of Catholic Bishops, published by authority of Pope Paul VI), we find several “PRAYERS OF EXORCISM AND ANOINTING BEFORE BAPTISM.” (pp. 380-381, 398)

According to the Catholic Church, “baptism is necessary for salvation” (CATHOLIC ALMANAC, 1985, p. 231).

Catholics, Episcopalians, Lutherans, Methodists, and Presbyterians all sprinkle or pour water on babies, calling it “baptism.” Eastern Othodox churches immerse babies.

Catholic doctrine teaches that babies that die un”baptized” “cannot enter heaven” (NEW CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA, 1987). Augustine (died A.D. 430) taught that un”baptized” babies suffer pain in HELL! (McBrien, Catholicism, p. 1154).

DOES GOD KICK BABIES OUT OF HEAVEN BECAUSE NO ONE POURED WATER ON THEIR HEADS IN AN ACT OF PAGAN PRACTICE????? NO!

What does the BIBLE say about SALVATION? SALVATION IS BY FAITH, NOT WORKS:

• EPHESIANS 2:8-9. “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.”
• ACTS 16:31. “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved.”
• JOHN 3:16. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
• JOHN 3:18. “He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”
• JOHN 3:36. “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life; and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

(NOTE: Mark 16:15; Acts 2:38; 22:16, etc. do not mention WATER….see Matthew 3:11; 1 Corinthians 12:13; Ephesians 4:4-5)

Yawn,
Another post detailing how all Catholics worship satan....as if!

Christening today is a naming ceremony....no devil worship intended or desired.

 

[David Lamb]

Yawn,
Another post detailing how all Catholics worship satan....as if!

Christening today is a naming ceremony....no devil worship intended or desired.

But Roman Catholics do call the ceremony "Baptism." I'm not saying they worship Satan, but they don't view the ceremony they perform on babies as merely a naming ceremony. They believe that the baby actually becomes a Christian when they baptize it. Some Anglicans do the same. I was brought up as a child in the Anglican church, and I remember we used to sing a hymn which started:

I was a Christian
when my name was given,
one of God's dear children,
and an heir of heaven.
In the name of Christian
I will glory now,
evermore remember
my baptismal vow.

 

[JohnDB]

But Roman Catholics do call the ceremony "Baptism." I'm not saying they worship Satan, but they don't view the ceremony they perform on babies as merely a naming ceremony. They believe that the baby actually becomes a Christian when they baptize it. Some Anglicans do the same. I was brought up as a child in the Anglican church, and I remember we used to sing a hymn which started:

I was a Christian
when my name was given,
one of God's dear children,
and an heir of heaven.
In the name of Christian
I will glory now,
evermore remember
my baptismal vow.

But....
Where I and you differ from Catholics is in the faith we put into ceremonies versus heart condition. Catholics have "confirmation" where their past Christening becomes a baptism in their adult years. That's why the naming convention. But a Christening may never become a baptism....it's up to the individual.

Getting wet today in a ceremonial fashion doesn't have the same public statement it once did. We have indoor plumbing. We don't gather at the local well/spring that we haul to our home.
There is no real danger in getting Baptized like people once went through. Not in the USA at the moment....for now.

All of these circumstances may change...

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Infant Baptism is not given in scripture.

This is true... they can splash water on they babies all they like and all it does is gets them wet.

Another post detailing how all Catholics worship satan....as if!

Practicing idolatry is satan worship... catholics love them some idolatry

 

[JohnDB]

This is true... they can splash water on they babies all they like and all it does is gets them wet.



Practicing idolatry is satan worship... catholics love them some idolatry

Catholics are not evil nor intending evil.
Their theologies are a bit whacked but so is everyone's. None of us have perfect theology or perfect adherence to the theologies we do hold. And if you claim otherwise....that's a sin.

They claim the same reverence for God's word as you do. Maybe more so. (Depending upon the individual)

You harm yourself when you look upon the Catholic brothers with disdain. They have some of the clearest theologies the Protestant and evangelical denominations would do well to emulate. (Life at conception and death penalty) some of their others? Meh!

But they say similar things about some of ours too.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

You harm yourself when you look upon the Catholic brothers with disdain.

That's quite hilarious!

I actually help myself and others when I warn people to not follow in the false doctrine the catholic cult follows which is of the devil and not of God.

This is why catholic cult teachings are not found in God's Word not taught by the Lord or His Apostles such as contacting the dead (necromancy which is satanic!), purgatory, putting dirt on one's forehead during "Ash Wednesday", praying the rosary (mary worship which is idolatry), confessing sins to some dude in a little box, anything their pope dude says is "infallible" and on the same level as God's Word, etc, etc.

They have some of the clearest theologies

Yeah, when looking at things from satan's point of view

They claim the same reverence for God's word as you do.

Those that actually do... are led by the Lord to leave the catholic cult as many have done.

There are some really good books by people who have told about their journey where the Lord revealed to them that the catholic cult is... a cult.... and they were delivered from their darkness

Maybe you should look in to reading of some of these folk's experiences and learn.

 

[Hobie]

There is no such thing as infant baptism practiced by any Christian denomination.

There are Christenings....where the Child is given its "Christian" name and dedication to raising them in the knowledge of God. Some even speak blessings over babies....but that's as far as it goes.

Nobody baptized babies.

Need to open your eyes and ears my brother..."

• Sacraments

Why Does the Church Baptize Babies?​

The Catholic Church has been baptizing babies ever since Christ commanded His apostles to baptize all people in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit (see Mt 28:18-20). This has always been the practice of the Orthodox churches and of many Protestant denominations as well.

Parents bring their babies to the waters of baptism by professing a belief in Christ on behalf of the child, and promising to raise him or her in the faith. For adults who are to be baptized,the Church also requires them to profess their faith in Christ.

Because baptism confers saving grace, the earlier a person comes to baptism, the better.

In infant baptism, then, though the child is too young to have faith, the parents extend their faith on the child’s behalf."

Why Does the Church Baptize Babies? | Simply Catholic

The Catholic Church has been baptizing babies ever since Christ commanded His apostles to baptize all people in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit (see Mt 28:18-20). This has always been the

www.simplycatholic.com

 

[Marymog]

Baptism in the Bible is by full immersion......

Which VS supports full immersion?

 

[Marymog]

There is no such thing as infant baptism practiced by any Christian denomination.

There are Christenings....where the Child is given its "Christian" name and dedication to raising them in the knowledge of God. Some even speak blessings over babies....but that's as far as it goes.

Nobody baptized babies.

Not true........

Infant baptism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[David Lamb]

But....
Where I and you differ from Catholics is in the faith we put into ceremonies versus heart condition. Catholics have "confirmation" where their past Christening becomes a baptism in their adult years. That's why the naming convention. But a Christening may never become a baptism....it's up to the individual.

Getting wet today in a ceremonial fashion doesn't have the same public statement it once did. We have indoor plumbing. We don't gather at the local well/spring that we haul to our home.
There is no real danger in getting Baptized like people once went through. Not in the USA at the moment....for now.

All of these circumstances may change...

Sorry for the lateness of my reply. I have only just seen your post. The Anglican Church does call it baptism. The Book of Common Prayer, their service book, includes a section: "The MINISTRATION of PUBLICK BAPTISM of INFANTS To be used in the C H U R C H." I think they probably use a more modern version now. I agree with you that it is the heart that God looks at. When I was baptised as a Christian believer, I was immersed in a baptistry. So I did indeed get wet.

 

[DJT_47]

Infant baptism is a doctrine of the devil

 

[Ron Balis]

Most churches are fake and ran by Satan. Seek the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and strength. I have been Baptized in the Holy Spirit. It was a Supernatural event that lasted weeks. I've never been Baptized in water.

 

[David Lamb]

Most churches are fake and ran by Satan. Seek the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and strength. I have been Baptized in the Holy Spirit. It was a Supernatural event that lasted weeks. I've never been Baptized in water.

You must have a tremendously wide knowledge of the many local churches in the world to be able to say that most of them are fake and run by Satan. I am not sure what your post has to do with the thread, though, which is about infant baptism.

 

[DJT_47]

Most churches are fake and ran by Satan. Seek the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and strength. I have been Baptized in the Holy Spirit. It was a Supernatural event that lasted weeks. I've never been Baptized in water.

If you've not been immersed in water, you're not part of the body of Christ, still in sin, and not saved.

 

[David Lamb]

If you've not been immersed in water, you're not part of the body of Christ, still in sin, and not saved.

That is just not true. The repentant thief on the cross beside Jesus was not baptized, yet he was saved. Sinners are saved by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ. Think of the jailer at Philippi. He asked the apostles how he could be saved. They told him to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and he would be saved. It was only after that we read that he and his family, having believed, were baptized:

“And he took them the same hour of the night and washed their stripes. And immediately he and all his family were baptized. Now when he had brought them into his house, he set food before them; and he rejoiced, having believed in God with all his household.” (Ac 16:33-34 NKJV)

Similarly with the Ethiopian whom Philip baptised. When he requested baptism, Philip said:

“If you believe with all your heart, you may." And he answered and said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."” (Ac 8:37 NKJV)

So he believed, then he was baptized.