he has murdered hundreds of innocent people you dont know he is pure evil
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Aunty Jane
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This is not an English phrase…..what does it even mean?
I know so many wicked men who are responsible for the loss of hundreds of thousands of lives…..pick one.
Rockerduck
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Berean
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The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses - how many have died due to the ban on blood transfusions since 1945? Not to mention their short-lived ban on organ transplants (1967-1980). Did you know in the 1920s and 30s, the Society banned vaccinations? Calling vaccines "useless, poisonous, a violation of God’s law, and a tool of the Devil." How many countless have died? You do the math.
Aunty Jane
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You need better information about the subject matter…..
But I’ll just let God inform you as he exposes the very things you think are life saving….who’s World are we living in? The truth is being exposed….You’ll see soon enough.
Google GVHD, TACO, & TRALI.
Many people aren’t informed of these blood-transfusion dangers…. But God knew:
Acts 15:28,29: Genesis 9:4
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Behold
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Why not just be honest about this Cult. ?????????????????????????
Try that.
Listen..
The JW's, take 3-4 verses from the OT< that say to not EAT Blood, and they twist this into........."abstain" from blood transfusions.
So, unless someone is Eating a "blood Transfusion".. then the JW position , is as usual........"kinda crazy", and can get you killed if you are a JW, and you need a Blood Transfusion to LIVE... and that can happen.
So, @Aunty Jane ..........If you have children, grown or young, and one of them needs a Blood Transfusion to stay alive, will you give permission to the Hospital to save your child's life or will you stand on the JW nut-bar "doctrinal position", and let them die?
Acts 15:28,29….ASV….
“For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: 29 that ye abstain from things sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication; from which if ye keep yourselves, it shall be well with you. Fare ye well.”
Where’s the twist?
Behold
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Are you a JW?
And if your child needs a Blood Transfusion......or your mother..., do you let them die based on this insane "doctrine", ????
So, i'll use the other verses that the JW Cult uses........... as you only listed one that suits how this CULT would try to con people.
Genesis 9:4
"""Only flesh with its life*—its blooda—you must not EAT"
Leviticus 17:10
“‘If any man of the house of Israel or any foreigner who is residing in your midst EATS any sort of blood,a I will certainly set my face against the one* who is eating the blood, and I will cut him off* from among his people.
DEUT 12:23
"""""Just be firmly resolved not to EAT the blood,""
Leviticus 17:14
: “You must not EAT the blood of any sort of flesh because the life* of every sort of flesh is its blood. Anyone EATING it will be cut off.
Thanks for posting those Scriptures.
But you should apologize for making a false statement. The Bible does indeed say, “abstain…. from blood.”
If a doctor tells an alcoholic to “abstain from alcohol”, would it be OK if the guy then transfuses / injects it into his system?
Before you make further false accusations, I’d suggest you inform yourself of blood-transfusion dangers, such as GVHD, TACO, & TRALI.
And BTW, no respectable hospital or doctor will guarantee a patient that a blood transfusion will save their life.
There are viable, safer alternatives. Ones that wouldn’t break God’s Law.
What did Jesus mean by His words at Luke 9:24; Luke 17:33? How can we “save” our life, by losing it?
You should direct your railings against Christendom with the same fervor… they’ve been killing their brothers (& disobeying Christ) since their inception.
We honor life… but we value obedience to Jehovah & Jesus, more.
Behold
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You apologize for trying to use one verse to contradict many others, to try to prove that a demonic Cult, is "good".
Let me help you with some bible study.
First, get a bible and not an NIV or a "Mormons" or a NEW WORLD Translation, or the Douay Rheims as those are Demonic Books... not bibles.
2nd.......when many verses say the same thing.............and one verse doesn't.....then you dont try to avoid the clear and connecting verses to try to prove what a Cult is doing by twisting ONE VERSE.
Understand @TheHC ??
Berean
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Berean
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What better information do I need? Care to share?
Christ is my life saver, His ransom sacrifice for all humanity is all I need. But I notice you didn't answer my questions above.
When the Society throughout the 1920s and 1930s were against vaccinations, how many died as a result? Was this new light or human error? Who among the Society's leadership are medical doctors that they can make such a demand of me?
When the Society's leadership stated that organ transplants were cannibalism, how many Witnesses could have saved their sight with a simple cornea transplant? Or saved their lives with a heart, kidney or liver transplant? Who among the Governing Body were medical doctors that they can play God?
What scriptural proofs did they provide of a "thus sayest the Lord" .... thou shalt not have a transplant or take vaccines?
Since the institution of the blood ban, how many revisions has the leadership made to blood transfusions that could have saved a witnesses life 10, 15 years ago, when it was banned, but now apparently is okay to take?
Your leadership has much blood on their hands.
Behold
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If they are involved in the Cult of JW's then the "decision" is already decided for them....
Aunty Jane
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That is a good point….we, as adults are all responsible for our own actions.
The medical profession was hijacked about a hundred years ago by those who saw it as a means to make themselves very wealthy. This is easy to research……they took over the medical schools and introduced their own “treatments”……why do you think that with all the medical interventions and artificial chemical drugs that those in the Western world line up to take, (and pay so much money for)….are sicker than they have ever been, and are now since CV 19 maimed and deceased through the administration of an untested experimental drug that fear was used to force it on a world population? Were you a victim of this scam?
The Vaxx manufacturers are laughing all the way to the bank….and they cannot be sued for the unwanted side effects of their ‘preventions’ and ‘treatments’…..this has led to people seeking alternative medical care when they see the state of the health of those who are perpetual customers of the pharma industry, kept sick and dependent on their drugs. Do these ‘medications’ ever cure anyone? Or is the aim to just suppress symptoms whilst they milk you of your money in perpetual treatments?….customers for life.
Doctors were healers in the old days…today they are just pimps for drug companies…and they are prevented from even suggesting alternative treatments.
Doctors are trained in many facets of medicine and it seems as if any kind of specialization carries a heavy price tag. Nowhere is this seen more than in the USA.
We still need doctors to fix what is broken if there are bones involved, or if surgery is needed to remove a damaged or diseased organ……but as for keeping people “well” in a general sense, it seems that they are trained to create customers for those who manufacture all those drugs that people are told that they need to “treat” their condition…..but the treatment is never a cure. Cures do not fit their business model.
Natural therapies, using herbs and plants that God gave us for free…are keeping more and more people from the doctor’s office. (If you can ever get an appointment to see them) They ban anything that will make people well, and that can actually cure their sicknesses. Is that wicked enough for you?
So what about blood transfusions?
How long have they known that blood transfusions are not as “life saving” as we have been told?
Here is a video on an Australian government website that has nothing to do with Jehovah’s Witnesses….
Australian Blood Authority outlining the real risks of blood transfusions.
Please note the date of this video’s statements, to see how long they have known about these things?
Blood transfusions are the leading cause of complications and death…(morbidity and mortality)
Our position on blood has not led to as many deaths as blood transfusions have….did you know this fact?
This is why there are now, whole hospitals dedicated to the non-use of blood and blood products. And do you know why this is so? Because the patients who refused blood recovered more quickly and with less complications than those who agreed to them. So it was saving the hospitals money and allowing them to free up beds for other patients. Do you think they would do this if it wasn’t good for their bottom line?
Do you know what a big money spinner the blood industry is? Google how much a unit of blood costs the patient.
No doctor worth his salt will touch blood, knowing the risks.
My daughter just had major surgery and only a few doctors were willing to operate without blood, on this particular surgery. She was home in two days, with no complications and only 30 mls of blood loss. They had a cell salvage machine at the ready if needed, but the doctor was so careful in her technique that it wasn’t needed at all.
So you really are speaking from ignorance….inform yourself, and see who is really running this show.
When God says to “abstain from blood”….he means it.
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Behold
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If someone on this forum, needs a Blood Transfusion, to save their life, and they follow your directions and refuse it and die, then you just killed them. @Aunty Jane
You realize this, ??? or are you really just too ignorant of Reality to comprehend...
Seem so according to your posts...
Let me help you..
Ive worked in Health Care, in 2 Major Hospitals, and one Elderly Care Center.
Ive seen the Motorcycle accidents where they come in having lost half their blood supply, and its still coming out with every heart beat........and they will DIE in MINUTES ! = unless they receive a few Transfusions........not just one.
That is how you save their LIFE., but you would have them die, because You're Hellish Cult has you trained and controlled and blinded to the point of literal brain dead stupidity.
Aunty Jane
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You didn’t watch the video did you? Enough said…
The real ignorance is in refusing to be corrected by those who are experts in this field…..they deal with this “reality” every day.
What is the first thing that happens when a foreign substance in introduced into the human body? It’s resources are put into fighting of the foreign substance. Rejection is what takes place, and it inhibits the body’s ability to put all of it’s resources into recovery, which is why transfusions are associated with “more morbidity and mortality“ than any other medical intervention. Our blood is as individual as our fingerprints. Is putting someone else’s DNA into your body something that appeals to you? Is the fact that in many countries, Iike the US for example, people are paid to give their blood…..and so it is usually poor or disadvantaged people who sell it…..are they healthy? Do you know whose blood is given to you?
I have lost count of the number of my brothers and sisters who were told point blank that they would die without blood as this is what doctors are taught….but you know what? None of them did….and they all recovered quite quickly once the alternative e therapies were used by doctors who didn’t just wash their hands and walk away. There are many things that can be used instead of blood.
No thanks….ignorance kills more people in medicine than anything else. What is the leading cause of death in the western world? Western medicine! Look it up.
And of course you can ignore all information to the contrary because you know better….OK you make decisions for you…and we will make our decisions based on what the word of God says…..”abstain from blood” is the Bible’s counsel….when we do, death is not inevitable. In fact, even in severe trauma cases as long as the volume is maintained (as the cytoscan in the video showed, if you had bothered to watch it) the remaining red cells can do their job, but once foreign blood is introduced, it impedes the body’s ability to defend itself.
It’s not a death wish, but simple obedience to God’s command…..do you think how the blood is administered is what make it OK to break God’s clearly stated law? Three times in the Scriptures humans were told to “abstain from blood”…..once after the global flood, (Gen 9:3-5)….again in the law given to Israel, (Lev 17:14) and a third time to Christians in Acts 15:28-29. When people are not able to be fed by mouth, how is nutrition delivered? The are usually fed intravenously.
More people die after a blood transfusion than who ever die without one….how useless is it to die after you violate God’s command in an effort to save your life? But if you die after you have observed it, then there are no regrets. Most people who die in trauma centers would have died anyway, regardless of how much blood was given them. This is a fact that you want to ignore.
Just watch the video…or is it too challenging to hear the truth from the medical professionals themselves?
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Behold
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I dont watch videos here, unless they are music videos.
I dont bring in some "outside teacher" using a video, to try to prove anything.
I have the NT, and Paul's theology.....and that is the end game.
Thats all i offer.
ive been the "expert".
Ive seen the insides of Hospitals while working with "transfusion needy".
This is why my perspective is real., vs yours., that is Cult derived.
Everything is a foreign substance, that you put in your mouth....and swallow.
If you put something on your skin.......like Perfume, it gets into your system, and your Liver has to get it out.
So, a Blood Transfusion, performed correctly, with matched "type".... especially if its from a family member, is very very safe. Its much safer then "organ donor", transplants.
What normally Kills you in a hospital is not the 4 or 5 transfusion you had.......but it s a "super bug" you get, that they can't stop with antibiotics"..
And that is usually an elderly person, with a already weakened immune system.
I dont believe you.
I dont believe that you have a family that has lots of siblings and all of them have needed a Transfuston.
Listen......Transfusion are not common..... they are not "everyday occurrences".
Transfusions, are fairly rare, and are generally "critical case"... "must have".
"No thanks".. i'll just let my child die, because my Cult taught me to do it.
That is your final answer?
Ok...
But dont bring that madness to this forum, and lead someone to that sudden death, who is too weak minded to understand what you are doing here. @Aunty Jane
soberxp
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Don't worry, Chinese scientists have extracted human protein serum from rice to replace human blood products, safe and pollution-free.
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