A bit of a mess in the White House.

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amigo de christo

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Amen! Brother you said this so well. May the Lord give us ears to hear what the Spirit is saying!

Jesus said to seek first HIS kingdom and HIS righteousness, then all these things would be added unto us. He didn't say to go seeking those things first or put them first. Many in Christendom are putting the cart before the horse. What does it profit a man (or nation) to gain the whole world but lose his own soul in the process?
To the trenches sister ,
We must do what we can with what we have been given while there still be time to do so .
Many in christendom are putting the cart before the horse .
They putting and allow a false love that wont correct sins and errors
and no longer even BELIEVES one must beleive in CHRIST to be saved .
The cart before the horse . ITS so bad now sister they put the HORSE DUNG before the cart and expect the dung
to pull the horse and the cart . I NEVER SEEN a delusion like this one sister . IT has come
and it has been given , it has been allowed upon a generation
THAT REJECTED THE TRUE GOD , HIS TRUE CHRIST , HIS TRUTH and they buy into the love lie more and more daily .
I truly did what i could on the sites sister .
even now it feels like i fell short and could have done more . OH how i desired only good for this people
ONLY SO VERY MANY WILL NOT . But we do not give up or give in , BY GRACE we continue sister no matter the cost .
 

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There we go, the "hate card" again.
Boring response.

As Christians we don't hate, but we judge righteously, something you don't know what that is.
If you wanna see total hyprocrisy
then BEHOLD the actions of most who always USE that hate card to defend their lies , their sin and their errors .
YOU watch their actions well my friend .
THOUGH they hollered love and tolerance all day long
YOU WILL FIND THEY offer NO LOVE , NO TOLERANCE
for TRUTH , for those who bring truth . THEIR hatred is actually increasing .
Many have no idea satan can say GOD IS LOVE
and WE ought not to hate . AND YET he uses both the version of love and of hate
TO PROMOTE FALSEHOODS and Create a heart within this people that
WHILE IT LOVES ON SINS and those in SIN
MAN IT SURE HATES THE WORDS OF GOD , THINGS IN THE BIBLE
and those who speak TRUTH . a delusion GROWS my friend . IT GROWS . and it will lead to only one thing .
HATE leads to murder . WE WILL BE BETRAYED by many who even profess to KNOW GOD , TO KNOW LOVE
and i dont mean just words , I MEAN a time is coming in western socities
WHERE folks who cling to the bible , truth , will be seen as dangerous and need to be RID from earth .
 

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There we go, the "hate card" again.
Boring response.

As Christians we don't hate, but we judge righteously, something you don't know what that is.
all he knows is the ecumincal vatican led verision of what it deems as love and what it deems as hate .
And friend when i say vatican led
ITS ALL OVER THE PROTESTANT realm and has been .
Hard to tell the mother from her daughters . they act as one and grow as one and have no idea
what spirit they are of and where this spirit is leading them all right too .
 

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What makes you think I'm condemning Trump? I'm not at all. I'm neutral as far as the politics goes, because I know the only way to avoid God's judgment is if a preponderance of the church would return to God and HIS ways and repent........I just bow down to the will of God in placing Trump where he is, for God's purposes....all of which are not for "good" as I've pointed out before. Was Cyrus good for "Babylon"? Better come out of "Babylon" or be caught up in her judgment. Do you know that all prophecies are not good news, those concerning judgments and especially those concerning the end? The Lord sure has a controversy with HIS people in these days and that does not bode well for His blessing.

2Ch 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

The problems in the land are mostly the church's fault for dropping the ball and chasing after false doctrines and false teachers with ear-tickling messages, and meanwhile the church is blaming the unbelievers in the land instead of examining herself. What I am doing is calling out those who supposedly follow Christ and should know better than to think of or make any President into a spiritual leader/pope of the American church. Not even David dared to be that.......the priesthood and kingship of Israel were separate. When they tried to crown Jesus king of Israel, even He fled that temptation! He was and is not a political King. Only Christ is spiritual Head of His church! Many who name the name of Christ are placing their hopes and trust (giving their hearts) in the wrong kind of kingship and that will only provoke the Lord to jealousy even more.
I dare ya to ask the man you wrote this too
about the interfaith stuff . THEY all buying into the lie sister .
THEY do not agree on politics , the polticis is meant to divide
and only wear this people down and out
and lead them to only one solution , to merge under what all can call LOVE and beleive is GOD .
AND siser , IT ANT EITHER ONE . the devil can wear more than prada sister
HIMS and his men can wear wool . But why are both sides being so decieved .
WELL you already know the why , THEY TRUST IN MEN , THE EARTHEN KINGDOM
VERY few now are left who TRUST IN GOD , HIS CHRIST and KNOW and understand OUR kingdom JUST AINT OF THIS WORLD .
 

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They putting and allow a false love that wont correct sins and errors
and no longer even BELIEVES one must beleive in CHRIST to be saved .
Roman Catholic Church is just one example of such a thing.

They act like they have a "salvation machine", push the button, be "nice" and be "saved."

Worship some statues and you got it made.

Speak up against their pope and false doctrine, and you are "unsaved" again.

Cults require unconditional obedience to their leader. If not you will be toast!

The Trump followers are starting to act and look like "cult members...".
Almost to the point of a religious sect.
 

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Trump promised a lot of things..........
but America's problems are getting bigger than the trade war and Trump's inability to negotiate a just peace in Ukraine and Gaza.

He picked an incompetent cabinet to obey & execute any order he gives no matter how crazy it sounds,
like robots they complete the entire task without question,
his press secretary....another robot: "France would be speaking German if it was not for the USA"
I guess she does not know the Russians were already in Berlin, the Canadians in the Netherlands and the Brits bombing Germany......

A Trump fanatic heard a conversation where somebody mentioned Belgium.
The Trump supporter asked: " Is Belgium in France"?
 
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Elon should have stayed out of politics,
That's what happens when you become an "unelected sidekick" in the Trump Warehouse.
 
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Do you believe God controls the weather????
The prophets of the Old Testament believed that Yahweh, the God they served, was in absolute control of the weather - that good weather was a sign of his approval and that unfavourable weather was his way of reproving his often disobedient children and of keeping them in check......
No !
 

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Trump promised a lot of things..........
but America's problems are getting bigger than the trade war and Trump's inability to negotiate a just peace in Ukraine and Gaza.

He picked an incompetent cabinet to obey & execute any order he gives no matter how crazy it sounds,
like robots they complete the entire task without question,
his press secretary....another robot: "France would be speaking German if it was not for the USA"
I guess she does not know the Russians were already in Berlin, the Canadians in the Netherlands and the Brits bombing Germany......

A Trump fanatic heard a conversation where somebody mentioned Belgium.
The Trump supporter asked: " Is Belgium in France"?
Belgium ? They speek French I thought. Haha, They are regarded as Frogs as well !
Just another type of Frog, tho they sound croke the same.

The path to Peace is blocked by the UK and Fance and the rest of the morons who clearly only want to push for WW3 ! not to mention they clearly have no regards for people being killed etc in fact, but Trump does !

The Leadership of France and UK and Canada clearly all have no regards for the People of their own Nations ! Just look at the path they went down and who does it cost ? The working Class ! the cost of Living has gone up because of their love of War in fact ! Idiots ! when the fact of the matter is that all of such could of been sorted, without killing one person in fact ! but who wanted to push for War and still only wants only War in fact !
 

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Belgium ? They speek French I thought. Haha, They are regarded as Frogs as well !
In Belgium they speak Flamish (a form of Dutch), French, and German.
Three languages.

I guess you are a product of a lousy public school system.
So, I don't really blame you for not knowing any better.
Not your fault in fact.
You know NOT better.
 
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I think you are condemning Trump because you ARE condemning Trump.


"Any President" includes Trump. And this is a false standard. No one is making Trump a religious leader of any kind. He is merely promoting Christianity for his agenda includes Make America Religious Again in establishing the Golden Age of America. You railed against this for it is inconceivable to you that things in the shining city on a hill could be good with the grace of God. You cannot imagine it. So, you condemn Trump who gives hope and optimism of better days ahead.
Wrangler, I'm not even blaming or judging Trump because I know he's been led astray into a mere "religion" by false Christian shepherds who have not preached the true gospel to him. Only the gospel can help America spiritually, not any politician or President through policies. The church even does better and the gospel is advanced more in bad times, not good. Not that I wish for bad times, but some seem to think that good political/national circumstances are good for the spiritual state of the church, when really the opposite is true. This is the reason God sends judgments and adverse circumstances......for the spiritual good of the people if only they would turn to HIM in their need. I believe America and the rest of the formerly Christian Gentile western nations have had their golden age and what happened to Israel in her apostasy is happening to the west now in her apostasy. Those things happened unto Israel and were written down for our ensample and admonition.

Jesus didn't come to make any nation "religious" as only those who know the Lord understand..........He came to save souls through the gospel, through faith in Him that is not of our own but is of His Spirit. You sound like a Catholic having a form of godliness but denying the power. That's what religion is....only a form of godliness. The gospel is not a religion, it is the power of God unto salvation. Jesus said you MUST be born again of the Holy Spirit. The protestant church in the west has been falling away into religious nominalism because the Spirit is departing, resulting in no power...and this is due to false gospels like prosperity and greasy grace and ecumenicalism, as well as much sin in the camp....this is the reason the church has lost ground in the west and political policies can't rid the church of those things.
 

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Wrangler, I'm not even blaming or judging Trump because I know he's been led astray into a mere "religion" by false Christian shepherds who have not preached the true gospel to him. Only the gospel can help America spiritually, not any politician or President through policies. The church even does better and the gospel is advanced more in bad times, not good. Not that I wish for bad times, but some seem to think that good political/national circumstances are good for the spiritual state of the church, when really the opposite is true. This is the reason God sends judgments and adverse circumstances......for the spiritual good of the people if only they would turn to HIM in their need. I believe America and the rest of the formerly Christian Gentile western nations have had their golden age and what happened to Israel in her apostasy is happening to the west now in her apostasy. Those things happened unto Israel and were written down for our ensample and admonition.

Jesus didn't come to make any nation "religious" as only those who know the Lord understand..........He came to save souls through the gospel, through faith in Him that is not of our own but is of His Spirit. You sound like a Catholic having a form of godliness but denying the power. That's what religion is....only a form of godliness. The gospel is not a religion, it is the power of God unto salvation. Jesus said you MUST be born again of the Holy Spirit. The protestant church in the west has been falling away into religious nominalism because the Spirit is departing, resulting in no power...and this is due to false gospels like prosperity and greasy grace and ecumenicalism, as well as much sin in the camp....this is the reason the church has lost ground in the west and political policies can't rid the church of those things.
No man , no woman sits where they hate what is taught . They sit under and cling to
what they love to hear .
And trump was and is no exception . For years and for years He has loved the preaching of the now deceased norman vincent peale .
Birds of a feather always flock together . Trump has loved that sort of thing for years and for years and for years .
And now He , like many , are simply being gathered under the ultimate
delusion that seems to be taking so very many captive to the lie meant to merge this people
unto the day of their own destruction .
Now by all means we do pray they repent . and by all means it must be warned out against as well as any and all
who have any part or lott in its cup of fornication .
The one thing that these politicains on both sides of the realm have in common
is the same thing that the vatican led and now almost all of protestnant land has swallowed down .
The idea of some kind of love god that dont seem to matter what religoin one beleives , what they believe
just beleive in the love god who says all shall be well my children just be one , just love
Heck i watched even what George busch said . THEY ALL beleive this stuff sister .
THEY do not agree on politics . BUT on the love lie they are coming to an agreement . ITS NOT LOOKING GOOD at all sister .
 

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In Belgium they speak Flamish (a form of Dutch), French, and German.
Three languages.

I guess you are a product of a lousy public school system.
So, I don't really blame you for not knowing any better.
Not your fault in fact.
You know NOT better.
Sadly the common tongue within much of christendom is the language of pretzeldome .
Twisted doctrines that support what the wicked heart of humanity does so desire with a splash of , a promise
of salvation . Its known as a love langauge ,
ONLY it aint LOVE and IT ANT OF GOD my friend . its the love of this world that cometh
to appease the sinful heart of man with a promise ye shall have salvation as well .
ONLY the great father of lies would ever have done such a thing . changed the image of GOD
into his own image by how he gets the worship of man through the lusts of the flesh .
And though it promises salvation , ITS A LIAR . It comes only to steal , to kill and to destroy .
 
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Lol, no, he is discerning.
Discernment .
A wise and discerning heart .
Seems to me that many in this generation
have no such thing . and i know the world dont
the many i speak of sit within a construct known as christendom
Many cannot discern the difference at all between the love of the world verses the LOVE OF GOD .
For they follow a love that allows them to remain in sin , Even honors certain sins
and even preaches all out UNBELIEF and does so through a guise of what it calls love .
But upon real simple examination of its love , verses the love of GOD
a real clear difference can be seen .
Its love uses what little scrips it does use , to justify a lie , NOT to JUSTIFY TRUTH or REJOICE IN TRUTH .
Now its true through this version of wordly love
i have seen the road to GOD expand beyond a single path to a many laned interstate
As it has picked up a lot of unrepentant sinners and even calls this love
Notice i said UNREPENTANT sinners , not repentant .
And that road just kept gettting broader as now more and more even believe
ALL RELIGOINS are on this road to GOD .
And as its love for evil has increased
its hatred for truth has increased .
TILL now about the only ones they SEE as not on this big ol love road to WHO they THINK is GOD
are the haters of all humanity , are the lost souls .
Didnt JESUS say the road was narrow . WHY THEN ITS THIERS SO DARN BROAD . exactly .j
 

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Oh yes, the road is narrow. The Holy Spirit points that out to me. We are not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers and not lust for the flesh. This includes making friends and family. This world is not our home and Christians belong to Jesus. I saw a vision recently on this, cars heading on one road, but the narrow road was the size of a bike lane on the opposite side.
 
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No man , no woman sits where they hate what is taught . They sit under and cling to
what they love to hear .
And trump was and is no exception . For years and for years He has loved the preaching of the now deceased norman vincent peale .
Birds of a feather always flock together . Trump has loved that sort of thing for years and for years and for years .
And now He , like many , are simply being gathered under the ultimate
delusion that seems to be taking so very many captive to the lie meant to merge this people
unto the day of their own destruction .
Now by all means we do pray they repent . and by all means it must be warned out against as well as any and all
who have any part or lott in its cup of fornication .
The one thing that these politicains on both sides of the realm have in common
is the same thing that the vatican led and now almost all of protestnant land has swallowed down .
The idea of some kind of love god that dont seem to matter what religoin one beleives , what they believe
just beleive in the love god who says all shall be well my children just be one , just love
Heck i watched even what George busch said . THEY ALL beleive this stuff sister .
THEY do not agree on politics . BUT on the love lie they are coming to an agreement . ITS NOT LOOKING GOOD at all sister .
The lost are lost, brother. I just don't want to sit in judgment when I'm not privy to all the particulars of a life and I know God is going to judge us all. For all I know DT has never even heard the true gospel, very likely not from that crew who surround him at the White House. They probably told him to "just say a little prayer and you will be saved"......as if the Lord and His Spirit have no say or part in the matter. That is no different at all than a sacrament like the Catholic church have. Form of godliness but denying the power. One is not born again by the will of man but by the will of God....but a humble and contrite heart He will not turn away.
 

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Politics is a GAME.
A struggle for power....and the general population is who gives Congress its power.
The political contestants first want your vote and then go all out in trying to gain it over and above each other.

As a result we have over 500 points of view in DC each with over $5million each to try and persuade your opinion.


And people wonder how Congress gets so wealthy....we give them the seed money and they make hay from there.

BTW....a full blown internet campaign on any issue is only $20k.
 

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There we go, the "hate card" again.
Boring response.
Yes – hate IS boring.
Try something different for a
change . . .
As Christians we don't hate, but we judge righteously, something you don't know what that is.
That’s hilarious.

You guys don’t judge "righteously”. You condemn Trump for things he said and might have done decades ago. You’re hypocrites . . ..
 

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Heck i watched even what George busch said . THEY ALL beleive this stuff sister .
THEY do not agree on politics . BUT on the love lie they are coming to an agreement . ITS NOT LOOKING GOOD at all sister .
Hi @amigo de christo

Do you have a source to offer on George Bush?

I considered his faith in the Lord as real.