One thing I strongly oppose Trump on

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Reggie Belafonte

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If one truly wants to have a good conduct with the Nation next door ? well lasting peace that is truly worthy will last in fact, that is what the ends must be founded on, or War is only set to kick off once again in fact !

I think that the USA whould just take over the disputed lands area and go from their and then bring in elections to solve it all in fact and no one can say that is a bad thing !

They took over Germany and controled it for years. so why not take over east Ukraine boarders till the best outcome for the future of both Nations is worked out with brains for the future ! and not just sensless killing like a total morons only love to only do ! as that is criminal regardless in my books and not worthy of this era one would think ?

It's the same deal with Israel, Trump is total correct, such will bring lasting peace in fact !

You see the MSM etc on about Solutions ? prove it's a worthy solution in fact ! just don't say it and think or demand that it is, prove it !

The 2 State Solution is Communism in fact ! and the end of the State of Israel in fact !

Anyone who thinks that Ukraine can have it all Zelenskys way is a total retard moronic fool, it will never happen ! and the whore MSM will not bother to point out why it will not ! Nothing in the world will stop Russia from giving up it's main number one Military Base ! Period ! because anyone who does try will get nuclear bomb droped on them in fact ! that has been warned for over 60 years in fact !
So why do the MSM and out Governments not point such out to our people ? R F Kennedy pointed it all out in fact once again of late !

The West is being Lied to big time by Socialist Governments and the MSM Whore !

Who wants to start WW3 ? The people who lived through WW2 had it easy in fact, to what we will have to endure if WW3 comes. and WW2 was a living hell, most people nowadays would never be able to endure the peace time just after WW2 let alone WW3.
Two in out of 10 may survive such a War ! for what Ukraine ! that has always hated the people in the West in fact. Where is the great love affair ? Seriously !
 

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Zelensky wasn't looking for a peace deal either. Ukraine actually more communist than Russia even.
Well they want their land back and do not want a peace deal that forces them to give up part of their sovereign nation. Even if they are more communist than Russia, it still is not an invite for Russia to invade a much smaller nation that isn't fighting them,.
 

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The Gospel of Matthew 5:9
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

You should support Trump,if he could end this war for whatever reason.

But I don't think the war will end so easily.
The peace Jesus is talking about is not between warring factions. It is those who bring Gods peace to those who are enemies of God.

6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.

8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
 

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Well they want their land back and do not want a peace deal that forces them to give up part of their sovereign nation. Even if they are more communist than Russia, it still is not an invite for Russia to invade a much smaller nation that isn't fighting them,.
But most of its citizens that aren't elite left for Poland.
 

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And so? does that give Russia the right to just go and bomb the hell out of Ukraine and steal land from them that does not belong to Russia?
There is nothing we can do, and Ukraine doesn't deserve our sympathies. Not does Putin. But Putin is more pragmatic than the news media give him credit for. Putin saw a puppet that he couldn't control and decided to take oil producing part of Ukraine, and he continued to Kiev.

I think Trump guards his own back around Putin though.
 

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Even if they are more communist than Russia, it still is not an invite for Russia to invade a much smaller nation that isn't fighting them,.
This appeal to victimhood is unbecoming of the largest concentration of Nazi’s in the world who provoked the world’s largest nuclear power by courting NATO membership.

It must be apparent to anyone who saw the Zelensky debacle in the Oval Office that he considers NATO as his pawn ‘to stop Russia’ militarily. He badly miscalculated and Ukranians, his own people, suffer the most. This explains why Ukraine has lost 1/3 of its population already.
 
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There is nothing we can do, and Ukraine doesn't deserve our sympathies. Not does Putin. But Putin is more pragmatic than the news media give him credit for. Putin saw a puppet that he couldn't control and decided to take oil producing part of Ukraine, and he continued to Kiev.

I think Trump guards his own back around Putin though.
Yes. foreign intrigue is always a murky pond to swim in.

I have always been against the US foreign adage of; "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". It has never done us good.
 

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So you think Russia is the aggrieved party here?

So go ahead and explain what you thinki I am being misled by 2nd grade journalists on this.

Do you think Ukraine should give up parts of their nation to Russia?
Do you think Ukraine should let Putin dictate when Ukraine holds election?
Should Ukraine not seek reparations for the massive devestation Russia did to their land?

Please enlighten us.

But before you answer these, please inform us of your expertise that allows you to comment on this league here.
Keep this in mind when you pursue the left leaning uninformed uneducated wing of the useless press.
Obama sent the signal that he didn't care when the Russians took Crimea while he was in office. Then he followed along when shipping blankets to Ukraine instead of weapons. I'll give Biden credit ......The United States had no business putting boots on the ground in Ukraine. If US Forces had been sent .....the Russians would have been backed into a corner where nukes would
have been the only answer. The Democrats created this scenario ....... find some other hobby for your cause and leave the US kids at home. Otherwise stand and look at your watch as each flag drapped coffin is taken off the plane ......just as Biden did.

Russia has taken Iran's and Iraq's military position on the world stage .......fight for years and not able to win a ground war. When Russia laid their enlisted and young Officer's off .......They left a real conventional military behind,
 

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Keep this in mind when you pursue the left leaning uninformed uneducated wing of the useless press.
Obama sent the signal that he didn't care when the Russians took Crimea while he was in office. Then he followed along when shipping blankets to Ukraine instead of weapons. I'll give Biden credit ......The United States had no business putting boots on the ground in Ukraine. If US Forces had been sent .....the Russians would have been backed into a corner where nukes would
have been the only answer. The Democrats created this scenario ....... find some other hobby for your cause and leave the US kids at home. Otherwise stand and look at your watch as each flag drapped coffin is taken off the plane ......just as Biden did.

Russia has taken Iran's and Iraq's military position on the world stage .......fight for years and not able to win a ground war. When Russia laid their enlisted and young Officer's off .......They left a real conventional military behind,
Well as I don't pursue left leaning uniformed causes and do not ascribe to left leaning hobbies, you sound very foolish.

I never said we should send boots on the ground, so your accusations against me are vapid.