If Reality Is A Simulation, Then Belief Is The Code

[MA2444]

Of course Jesus Christ can really heal people's physical diseases, but that is not the point of Jesus Christ.

That's actually kind of profound. I think Jesus can and does heal people but it isnt a main focus, but rather, one of those...and these things shall be added unto you type of things.

The real main focus is the Lord Jesus Himself. We must cultivate an ever growing relationship with Him so that we can learn to hear His still small voice and do for Him and the Kingdom of God. Many people can not hear God because they are not willing to let go of their own agendas. They really like that girl who is living in sin with her and not married, other sure sure do like to get a buzz fairly regularly and different people have different favorite drugs, or whatever their favorite sins may be. They want to make their own decisions and not let go of certain worldly things when our instructions in scripture plainly state that we are to surrender our will unto Him unto our death, then we are accepted and being led by the Spirit of God moment by moment then you begin to hear Him inside of you!

We are crucified with Christ and risen anew. All things have become new again. But if a man continues to willfully sin, then he has resurrected the old man which was crucified with our will with Christ so suddenly the man has trouble hearing the voice of God again. (Yikes!) The solution is to stay our minds on God. Keep God in our thoughts and hearts and prayers at all times, deferring to Him even the smallest things! (He loves to talk!)

I found out pretty quick the Lord speaks in total love and compassion and never speaks condemnation to us. He is easy and fun to chat with! But...(there's always a but!)

It seems guaranteed that the Lord will speak to you and ask you to do something that will cause you to feel insecure and threatened (I cant do That!) so some resist at that point and I did too, lol. And it became hard to hear His voice anymore. And I missed it so I began praying and bugging Him in prayer about it. What it amounts to when the Lord asks us to walk thru a bad thing and we dont want to do it, what He is looking for is Obedience. Just Trust Him and do what He says! Because we must cultivate the connection with God moment by moment or else it's like, we keep giving up.

Being able to hear the voice of God directly within yourself is a wonderful thing. And when you mess up and cant hear God anymore...it's disconcerting! I cant hear God or get any more confirmations?! That is terrible!

It was told to the people how to do this way back in the OT!

Isaiah 26:3
3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.../KJV

Perfect Peace is how our confirmations from God come to us. That is huge! The Lord can bring such perfect peace upon your spirit that, you just know and know that you know and feel good about it. There is no mistaking peace in the spirit when it comes, if you have ever experienced it?

Those who minds are stayed on (God). We must cultivate a relationship with the Lord or else be blind and deaf. This is the man who is always talking about the Lord. Wanna go out tonight? Sorry I got bible study. Not just a Jesus-Freak but a Super-Jesus-Freak!

Those are the guys who split the Red Sea, Healed people, Raised the Dead. Paul, Moses, David. They kept their mind's on the Lord and God told told them to go do impossible things! Most of them didnt want to! Moses argued with God about it! Lol.

You know how in scripture when it repeats something that it means that He wants us to take note of because it is important?

Well the single most repeated phrase in the whole bible is, fear not, do not be afraid, I will fear no evil, it is repeated in some form over 600 times (IIRC). So it is important to (help cultivate the relationship) to take courage and obey what He says to do no matter what. It doesnt matter at that point if you are David walking out to meet Goliath or Moses in charge of Al the people and the entire Egyptian army is chasing them! . But they obeyed the voice of the Lord and had courage and did not fear, so God did big things for them and let them participate in great Victories!

 

[Dan Clarkston]

So why do you say that the human will can not make anything happen?

Because... they have not seen / believed Galatians ;7,8 among others.

That's actually kind of profound. I think Jesus can and does heal people but it isnt a main focus, but rather, one of those...and these things shall be added unto you type of things.

Actually healing is in the atonement

 

[MA2444]

Actually healing is in the atonement

Touche'! Your right, evenso all these things shall be added unto you, right?

I remember that from taking Communion. It is in the cracker (His flesh) therein is atonement for our healing, and His blood Atones for our sins unto Salvation.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

all these things shall be added unto you, right?

Actually they came with the gift of salvation so they were there all along.... not added to us later.

Now some may learn about it later... but salvation includes not only washing away of our past sins and healing.... but...it provides for out financial needs as well if we are willing to work and allow the Lord to provide increase. (those that refuse to work get squat)

Just because the so called "prosperity preachers" go way over board with material wealth which turns lots of people off, does not mean this is not also part of the atonement...

Having a sound mind is part of the atonement too... too bad lots of folks missed that boat!

 

[lforrest]

What Jesus Christ expresses is the parable, the need to heal is the human mind, the spiritual thing. But Jesus Christ embodied the miracles in concrete things. When you get sick, most times don't cure people by praying, like the SARS-CoV-2 virus period, Did you see those false prayers on TV? How many people were healed by those prayers?

The church interprets the miracles of Jesus Christ as prayers that can heal physical ailments is a departure from the gospel message of salvation.

Of course Jesus Christ can really heal people's physical diseases, but that is not the point of Jesus Christ.

So, that's why God sometimes or the most times doesn't answer prayers about physical illness, because people stray from the subject of salvation.

Take it.

Death is as sleep to God. That is how insignificant it is to him. It doesn't cause him any direct personal sadness when one of his chosen ones die. He is eternal, his kingdom is eternal, he needs not wait for the resurrection to be reunited with us. He will emphasize with the survivors, but often the breaking of bonds leads to greater depenance on him and so is useful for sanctification. So he will make us endure it anyways.

Only when the unrepentant sinner dies is God saddened, because they are condemned and that is not what he wanted for them.

 

[MA2444]

Here is a movie that takes the simulation theory and turns it into a murder mystery. I didn't see the ending coming!

Might not be as good as the Matrix but it is good.

 

[Kabone]

At first I brushed off this thread but decided to give it a go and I’m glad I did. It got me thinking and I have some questions. First let’s go over the simulation aspect. If I followed correctly we’re all in heaven, in a classroom and God wants to learn about evil so we appreciate love, puts us all to sleep and programs our dream. Why would we have to experience evil for so long? Why do some have to experience greater levels? Why would some not appreciate love unless they acted evil? I don’t think you need to know evil to know love. Animals know love, but have no concept of evil.
Whose simulation is this? Am I alone and all of you are simulated? Am I your simulation?
When did this simulation start? With Adam?
The Bible itself would be a simulation as I assume there’s no need for a bible in heaven.
What happens when you die in the simulation? Does that mean you learned your lesson? Do you wake up in the classroom in heaven? Does God reinsert you as a new person?

 

[MA2444]

At first I brushed off this thread but decided to give it a go and I’m glad I did. It got me thinking and I have some questions. First let’s go over the simulation aspect. If I followed correctly we’re all in heaven, in a classroom and God wants to learn about evil so we appreciate love, puts us all to sleep and programs our dream. Why would we have to experience evil for so long? Why do some have to experience greater levels? Why would some not appreciate love unless they acted evil? I don’t think you need to know evil to know love. Animals know love, but have no concept of evil.
Whose simulation is this? Am I alone and all of you are simulated? Am I your simulation?
When did this simulation start? With Adam?
The Bible itself would be a simulation as I assume there’s no need for a bible in heaven.
What happens when you die in the simulation? Does that mean you learned your lesson? Do you wake up in the classroom in heaven? Does God reinsert you as a new person?

I dont know the answer to all of your questions brother, I dunno if I even believe this stuff, we're just tossing it around but it does seem plausible.

I dont think think God can learn about evil, so that must be a typo? Maybe it was God wants us to learn about evil?

Why do we have to experience evil for so long? What do you mean? Mans life is a vapor and then it's over. It is fast. Just six months ago both my sons were babies and now they're almost 40 years old! I say, whoa who rolled the calendar over so fast?! Lol.

Why would some not appreciate love unless they acted evil?

I didnt say that. Unless they have experienced evil. God wants us to learn about Love and we had nothing to compare it to? There has to be a yang in the Ying/Yang!

Whose simulation is this? Am I alone and all of you are simulated? Am I your simulation?
When did this simulation start? With Adam?

Well it would be God's simulation. God wrote His books and made His plan for each of us. It doesnt make it a zillion simulations, there is one simulation, and all men are born into it to guess. I am no simulation!
You are somewhat alone in this world with only a God seed within you when you're born here. Who let you into my simulation? (LOL). No brother the simulation is the world and all it's little fun houses of death. It is the human people and God that is real. (Except the the trans people, I think the Reptilians got to them and they went to the dark side?!)

The simulation might have started with Adam, or with their fall perhaps, when evil was introduced to the world.

The Bible itself would be a simulation as I assume there’s no need for a bible in heaven.

Wrong! The word of God does not die or peter out and disappear. His words are spirit and they are life, and that book, the bible is a Masterpiece! It is so intricate that a man could study it for a lifetime and never learn it all in totality. I bet we still study it in heaven! What does the scripture say? His words shall never pass away. Take a lesson from Enoch, that man was a normal man until he met the Lord in his heart. So what he did after that was basically, h Enoch went and found himself a cave and he stayed up there for 300 years and studied God and wrote about God and meditated on Go God, and read God's word...for 300 years I think it was, so he wasnt done! And what did Enoch get for his efforts? God took him!
SO the lesson is, go and read and study your bible for 300 years...because it is important to do so. Ok so you might not live that long, well that's ok because God doesn't look at how smart you are (LOL), God looks at the intentions of your heart and what effort you made towards it. Do you really want to know this God or are you just a curious window shopper? (That's what the Lord looks at!) So words can not express how important it is to read and study your bible every day. (And to pray unceasingly)

 

[MA2444]

What happens when you die in the simulation? Does that mean you learned your lesson? Do you wake up in the classroom in heaven? Does God reinsert you as a new person?

If we die here in our body, then they bury the or cremate the body and if we have accepted Jesus as our Lord and was following Him and His teachings, then our spirit & soul go to heaven to be with the Lord immediately. If the person dies on earth in their sins then they go to a temporary holding place called hell to wait for the final Judgment, then their soul get tossed into a lake of fire. So no, we did what we did on earth during our life here and some do learn the lesson and find God and some dont. So some wake up in the classroom in heaven with Jesus and others wake up in hell being tormented.

I don't believe that God reinserts people back into the world for a do-over. You get one chance at life, therefore choose life and the Lord.

You sound like you havent read the Bible very much (if any at all) so I think the best place to start reading it for yourself in in the New Testament in the book of John. That book illustrates the picture of earthly life and Salvation from it very well! Start with the Book of John!

 

[MA2444]

I was doing something else and I ran across this video by Chuck Missler and he talks about the simulation. I didn't even know he had a message on this.

 

[Rockerduck]

Plato's theory of forms is close to a shadow world theory. The Apostle Paul says we look through the glass darkly, meaning we have an imperfect vision of reality. 1 Cor. 13:12. Our vision obscures the true view.

 

[MA2444]

Plato's theory of forms is close to a shadow world theory. The Apostle Paul says we look through the glass darkly, meaning we have an imperfect vision of reality. 1 Cor. 13:12. Our vision obscures the true view.

And Nocmonadies, and Paul and others!

I really like that Chuck Missler video. He gives the references, the math and everything!

 

[Kabone]

In my short time on this forum I’ve learned that ppl are so quick to question your faith, to label you and put you in little boxes. We’re talking about a simulation and you question my Bible IQ. If I didn’t read the Bible I wouldn’t be here. And out of nowhere you attack trans as if they’re not God’s children. One time I attacked child rapists and ppl jumped on me. Ok, that’s my rant.
I’m trying to follow your OP. In it we are all already in heaven. So if we die in the simulation we are then judged and possibly cast out of heaven and thrown into hell. Most of your explanation sounds like reality.
How are we born into the simulation? We’re asleep so not actually procreating in heaven; we must be procreating in the simulation and then a new kid shows up in heaven and is put to sleep and inserted into the simulation.
A zillion simulations isn’t required, only about 7.1 billion. I believe God is capable of such a task, but it doesn’t matter either way.
There’s no need for the Bible in heaven. If you want to know if the second healing gave the guy his fingers back you just watch the replay. You want to know what Micah meant by no other god is His equal, go ask him.
Thanks for sharing that last video. It deserves its own thread. The simulation part was brief and unconvincing.
Physical things have a yang, the +/-, the north-south, the push-pull. Emotions don’t need an equal and opposite, and that’s ok. Or, evil is not the opposite of love. I go back to my animals example. To an animal, what would be the opposite of love? Maybe apathy?
Long story long, if this were a simulation it seems like the purpose would be to prove who in heaven is worthy of heaven

 

[Kabone]

Part 2 is are our beliefs the simulation code? First of all, the simulation would have started on day 6 with Adam. How could God have written in the universe and all the laws of physics without Adam’s beliefs? If the simulation changes as our beliefs change, was the earth flat until someone thought it wasn’t?
I think our beliefs would be a sub program at most.