GALATIANS 1:8 WHO IS ACCURSED ?

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Doug

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God gives you at least one but perhaps more than one test of faith. God tested Abraham, for instance, by asking him to sacrifice Isaac on the altar. Likewise, as in the case of Abraham, God always offers us a way out. In other words, assurance and confidence are built on experience.
So I think you are a Calvinist....am I correct.....I am not judging you for it
 

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Galatians 3:10
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse;

And that ain't good! Any of the Law preachers ever read the curse of the Law?
 

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God gives you at least one but perhaps more than one test of faith. God tested Abraham, for instance, by asking him to sacrifice Isaac on the altar. Likewise, as in the case of Abraham, God always offers us a way out. In other words, assurance and confidence are built on experience.
I know I am saved because of the promise of God found in his word

[Tit 1:2 KJV] 2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

[Rom 5:11 KJV] 11 And not only [so], but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

[Rom 5:1 KJV] 1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

[Rom 3:21-24 KJV] 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
 

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I know I am saved because of the promise of God found in his word.
The passages you've referenced discuss the concept of salvation in a broad and general context. However, what many individuals truly seek to understand is the personal aspect of salvation: am I saved? More specifically, they wonder, has God saved ME? This question goes beyond theological theories and dives into individual assurance and personal faith.

To determine whether I am experiencing God's salvation on a personal level, I believe that the testing of my faith is essential. These tests serve as a means through which God reveals the strength and authenticity of my faith, helping me to recognize His work in my life. This process of testing is not just a random trial; it is a purposeful endeavor from God to refine and strengthen my belief.

Peter emphasizes this idea by stating that the testing of our faith holds greater value than gold, which, while precious, is impermanent and can be corrupted. In comparison, the trials we face in our spiritual journey are transformative and lead to a deeper understanding of our relationship with God. It is through these challenges that I can gain personal assurance of my salvation and grow in my faith, becoming more certain of God's saving grace in my life.
 

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The passages you've referenced discuss the concept of salvation in a broad and general context. However, what many individuals truly seek to understand is the personal aspect of salvation: am I saved? More specifically, they wonder, has God saved ME? This question goes beyond theological theories and dives into individual assurance and personal faith.

To determine whether I am experiencing God's salvation on a personal level, I believe that the testing of my faith is essential. These tests serve as a means through which God reveals the strength and authenticity of my faith, helping me to recognize His work in my life. This process of testing is not just a random trial; it is a purposeful endeavor from God to refine and strengthen my belief.

Peter emphasizes this idea by stating that the testing of our faith holds greater value than gold, which, while precious, is impermanent and can be corrupted. In comparison, the trials we face in our spiritual journey are transformative and lead to a deeper understanding of our relationship with God. It is through these challenges that I can gain personal assurance of my salvation and grow in my faith, becoming more certain of God's saving grace in my life.
The only thing I will say is 1 Peter is written to believing Israel
 

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The only thing I will say is 1 Peter is written to believing Israel
Unfortunately, they were not considered part of Israel at the time of writing. They were known as the diaspora. Today, one might argue that Ezekiel's two stick prophecy has been fulfilled as all twelve tribes are currently united and living together.
 

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Unfortunately, they were not considered part of Israel at the time of writing. They were known as the diaspora. Today, one might argue that Ezekiel's two stick prophecy has been fulfilled as all twelve tribes are currently united and living together.
They were the believing remnant scattered among the nations
 

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[Gal 4:28 KJV] 28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

Those who believe Paul's gospel are
Not all who believe are children of promise. Some who begin as believers will fall away.
 

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How will they fall away as cited in scripture?
In the parable of the sower, found in Luke chapter 8, Jesus offers profound insights into the reception of the gospel message. He illustrates this through the story of a sower who is generously scattering seeds across various types of soil. As the seeds fall, they encounter differing conditions: some land on hard, compacted soil where they cannot take root; others fall on rocky ground, where initial growth is stunted by the lack of depth; some seeds settle amidst thorny weeds that eventually choke and impede their growth; but a portion of the seeds finds its way to well-cultivated, fertile soil, where they thrive and produce an abundant harvest.

This parable serves as a metaphor for the diverse responses of individuals to the gospel. The hard soil reflects those whose hearts are impervious to the message, preventing any possibility of belief. The rocky soil symbolizes those who initially receive the word with enthusiasm but quickly fall away when faced with challenges or adversity, as they lack a strong foundation. The thorny soil represents individuals who, although they initially believe, become overwhelmed by life’s distractions and the deceitfulness of wealth, which stifles their spiritual growth.

In contrast, the good soil signifies those who, after hearing the word, embrace it wholeheartedly, allowing it to take deep root in their lives. These individuals demonstrate perseverance in their faith and ultimately bear fruit, producing a rich harvest that reflects their commitment and understanding of the gospel. Thus, while all four types of soil represent people who initially engage with the message of faith, only the well-cultivated soil corresponds to those who actively grow and thrive in their spiritual journey, showing the importance of perseverance in faith.
 

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In the parable of the sower, found in Luke chapter 8, Jesus offers profound insights into the reception of the gospel message. He illustrates this through the story of a sower who is generously scattering seeds across various types of soil. As the seeds fall, they encounter differing conditions: some land on hard, compacted soil where they cannot take root; others fall on rocky ground, where initial growth is stunted by the lack of depth; some seeds settle amidst thorny weeds that eventually choke and impede their growth; but a portion of the seeds finds its way to well-cultivated, fertile soil, where they thrive and produce an abundant harvest.

This parable serves as a metaphor for the diverse responses of individuals to the gospel. The hard soil reflects those whose hearts are impervious to the message, preventing any possibility of belief. The rocky soil symbolizes those who initially receive the word with enthusiasm but quickly fall away when faced with challenges or adversity, as they lack a strong foundation. The thorny soil represents individuals who, although they initially believe, become overwhelmed by life’s distractions and the deceitfulness of wealth, which stifles their spiritual growth.

In contrast, the good soil signifies those who, after hearing the word, embrace it wholeheartedly, allowing it to take deep root in their lives. These individuals demonstrate perseverance in their faith and ultimately bear fruit, producing a rich harvest that reflects their commitment and understanding of the gospel. Thus, while all four types of soil represent people who initially engage with the message of faith, only the well-cultivated soil corresponds to those who actively grow and thrive in their spiritual journey, showing the importance of perseverance in faith.
I thought you were saying we had no choice to believe the gospel.............if I understand you right then why even give the gospel if God choses who to save
 

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I thought you were saying we had no choice to believe the gospel.............if I understand you right then why even give the gospel if God choses who to save
God is creating a story. Everything has a narrative purpose. If he wants an individual to believe and persevere in belief, he will tell that story. He will create them believing and continuing to believe.
 

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God is creating a story. Everything has a narrative purpose. If he wants an individual to believe and persevere in belief, he will tell that story. He will create them believing and continuing to believe.
Sorry but I cant comment