GALATIANS 1:8 WHO IS ACCURSED ?

[Ronald David Bruno]

Peter is saying Christ died for Israel's sins not ours as seen in Hebrews.....

Your whole premise that Paul and Peter preached two different gospels is in
contradition to fundamental Christian theology. There are no contradictions, just Paul rebuking Peter for appeasing the Judaisers.
Every preacher ( led by the Spirit) to this date, delivers the message of the gospel in accordance to God's sovereign plan which is designed specifically to reach the hearts of those recipients at the time. To reach a Jew, obviously a different approach/ sermon is used that would include OT Messianic prophecies and the Law. To Gentiles who were not familiar with the OT, a strict adherence and references to the Law and the Prophets would not be necessary (or make sense to them), since they were coming from a different world view. It wouldn't be left out though. A general outline of the story of Creation -- to the Flood Abraham -- to the chosen nation -- to Christ should be included.
The Holy Spirit does not deliver contraditions ANYWHERE in the BIBLE.

Apparently you have this mental block that the message is coming from man who makes mistakes.

The entire message of the Bible is inspired by God. It is not somehow blended with man's interpretations of God's message, or is the message contrived or edited by man. The BIBLE IS INERRANT.

 

[Doug]

To reach a Jew, obviously a different approach/ sermon is used that would include OT Messianic prophecies and the Law. To Gentiles who were not familiar with the OT, a strict adherence and references to the Law and the Prophets would not be necessary (or make sense to them), since they were coming from a different world view

Paul referred back to the law and prophets and he writes to both Jew and Gentile.

 

[Doug]

The Holy Spirit does not deliver contraditions ANYWHERE in the BIBLE.

There are contradictions in the Bible but there is no error, The contradictions can be resolved by applying a dispensational understanding in which Gods instructions and purposes can be different at different times

some examples:

[Mat 10:5-6 KJV] 5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into [any] city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

The disciples were only to go to Jews

[Mar 16:15 KJV] 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

The disciples were to go to all

[Luk 10:4 KJV] 4 Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way.

The disciples were told not to take money

[Luk 22:36 KJV] 36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take [it], and likewise [his] scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Now the disciples were told to take money............notice in this verse he says BUT NOW thats dispensational

 

[Doug]

Apparently you have this mental block that the message is coming from man who makes mistakes.

You said"Your whole premise that Paul and Peter preached two different gospels is in
contradition to fundamental Christian theology."

You apparently follow men as well and the authors of Christian theology can make mistakes and be wrong

There is nothing wrong with teachers since God ordained them..................[Eph 4:11 KJV] 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;................we do have to compare teachings with scripture

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Peter is saying Christ died for Israel's sins not ours as seen in Hebrews....................[Heb 9:15 KJV]

Enough evidence has been presented by all who oppose your views already.
Here you are claiming above," Peter said ... in Hebrews".
PETER DID NOT WRITE HEBREWS, some claim Paul did, but it was not his style ( and btw way God uses the style of communication, personality of the writers to deliver his WORD). Some say Apollos or Barnabas wrote Hebrews ... even Luke; but not Peter.
So you are reaching, grasping at straws to justify your false view. When being wrong about your theory ( an unsubstantiated one); your pride insists that you are not. Unfortunately in your state, seven wise men can come along and tell you you're wrong and you will continue to persist you are not! It's like you being warned numerous times that the road is collapsed ahead, but you continue to believe otherwise, drive on in defiance and over the cliff.
I'm done!

 

[CadyandZoe]

I think salvation is simple ........we just have to obey the gospel and believe it
[2Th 1:8 KJV] 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
[Rom 1:16 KJV] 16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Jesus teaches that belief in the gospel depends on God's will. This is one reason why I state that a person is saved through sanctification.

 

[CadyandZoe]

I think we are sanctified by his Word........................[Eph 5:25-26 KJV] 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

The particular "word" in view is God's promise to save those he has chosen.

 

[Doug]

Here you are claiming above," Peter said ... in Hebrews".
PETER DID NOT WRITE HEBREWS,

Just to be clear I did not say Peter wrote Hebrews ........................I said in response to you citing 1 Peter 1:2.. "Peter is saying Christ died for Israel's sins not ours as seen in Hebrews."...............I meant that what Peter was saying could be supported by Hebrews 9:15

 

[Doug]

Jesus teaches that belief in the gospel depends on God's will.

what verse are you basing this on

 

[Doug]

The particular "word" in view is God's promise to save those he has chosen.

Chosen how

 

[Doug]

Enough evidence has been presented by all who oppose your views already.

I dont think any such evidence was presented to change my mind..............no one has to accept my teachings.............just know my teaching is not my own but is based on what scripture says.............as far as evidence, I have given enough scriptural evidence

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

I dont think any such evidence was presented to change my mind..............no one has to accept my teachings.............just know my teaching is not my own but is based on what scripture says.............as far as evidence, I have given enough scriptural evidence

Lol, you are NOT a teacher! No one here is your student, nor is anyone that I can see agreeing with you. You should not be attempting Bible threads making such claims like: "The disciples taught different gospels" and "Jesus died forbm the sins of the Jews, not ours". Your implications are unorthodox- stick to that section and maybe just pose a question instead. But you should find a good teaching church, drop the pride and be willing to learn something because online, you are not teachable.

 

[CadyandZoe]

what verse are you basing this on

John 6:36-37 But I said to you that you have seen Me, and yet do not believe. All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Chosen how

He chooses individuals according to the plan he has for them.

Romans 9:11 for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls,

 

[Doug]

He chooses individuals according to the plan he has for them.

Romans 9:11 for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls,

Are you saying that the election of God determines who is saved today

 

[CadyandZoe]

Are you saying that the election of God determines who is saved today

Yes. That is the way it has always been.

 

[Doug]

Are you saying that the election of God determines who is saved today

So we have no choice in our salvation?

 

[CadyandZoe]

So we have no choice in our salvation?

That's right.

 

[Doug]

That's right.

how do you know you are saved

 

[CadyandZoe]

how do you know you are saved

God gives you at least one but perhaps more than one test of faith. God tested Abraham, for instance, by asking him to sacrifice Isaac on the altar. Likewise, as in the case of Abraham, God always offers us a way out. In other words, assurance and confidence are built on experience.