So what does the divinity of Jesus really mean, anyway?

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Jack

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You have asked a few of us if we are JW.when I have stated to you that I’m Born Again?

Why not start a thread about Born Again..as I don’t think that you understand what that means.
How is that calling you names??? Your doctrine sounds like WitchTower doctrine.
 

Ritajanice

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I would like you not to thrash this thread Jack with your name-calling....your words say this. If you have not anything to say regarding the divinity of God and Christ then please stop posting, and especially slamming others you do not know are here or not....there are at least 3 Unitarians that have posted here that are not of your label you called out.
Unfortunately he just regurgitates the same stuff.

Jack is unable to answer certain questions.

No point continuing with him....as it’s a pointless, unedifying and fruitless.
 
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Ritajanice

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How is that calling you names??? Your doctrine sounds like WitchTower doctrine.
In what way Jack...because I don’t believe in the trinity as you do, that makes me a JW?

I’m Born Again my friend....Born Of The Spirit and growing in spiritual maturity....?
 

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In what way Jack...because I don’t believe in the trinity as you do, that makes me a JW?

I’m Born Again my friend....Born Of The Spirit and growing in spiritual maturity....?
Perhaps I misunderstood your beliefs? You clearly deny Jesus is God. Do you also deny the eternal Hell?
 

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Yeah, it's called the Christian Bible!

What do you want to know about the Bible? Ask away.

Yeah, I'm gonna keep quoting Jesus, God of the Bible!
What do you know of the Heart Of God , Jack.

We know God in our heart/ spirit..that’s why we must be Born Again, if we don’t have the Spirit then we are none of His...imo, you are reading the Bible from your own understanding...no good knowing God or Jesus from reading a Bible.....you must know God/ Jesus, from the Living testimony, who should be indwelling your heart/ spirit.....

The Bible isn’t God...
 

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Perhaps I misunderstood your beliefs? You clearly deny Jesus is God. Do you also deny the eternal Hell?
What is a belief without faith or the Living testimony of God?

Do you know God by His Living Witness.or only by reading the Bible?

That is my question to you Jack?

What is eternal hell...would you say that can also mean, being alienated from the Spirit of God, as a non believer that I once was? @Jack ?
 

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What do you know of the Heart Of God , Jack.
Lots of things! He burned Sodom alive! "Making them an example"!
We know God in our heart/ spirit..that’s why we must be Born Again, if we don’t have the Spirit then we are none of His...imo, you are reading the Bible from your own understanding...no good knowing God or Jesus from reading a Bible.....you must know God/ Jesus, from the Living testimony, who should be indwelling your heart/ spirit.....

The Bible isn’t God...
And the truth comes out!
 

Jack

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What is a belief without faith or the Living testimony of God?

Do you know God by His Living Witness.or only by reading the Bible?

That is my question to you Jack?
I've been STUDYING the Bible for decades. I know Bible ATTACKS when I see them.
 

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Agreed. The burden is on the one making the positive claim.
H0. The new product is improved.
Ha. The new product is NOT improved.
No its no burden, no more of a burden for one to prove that Jesus isnt God, since its not a one scripture that says He is not. Besides that, those who deny He is God, well they are under the Judgment of God to believe a lie. Cant nobody make straight what God has made crooked.
 

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Lots of things! He burned Sodom alive! "Making them an example"!

And the truth comes out!
Jack, I asked you if you know God in your heart..?...it sounds like you only know what you read in the Bible, which imo, comes from your own understanding..

No point discussing with you any further, as my friend, you aren’t understanding what it means to seek the Lord God out with all your “ heart” ...for that is where you will find him.
 

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No its no burden, no more of a burden for one to prove that Jesus isnt God, since its not a one scripture that says He is not.
Wrong. Re-read my post and understand hypothesis testing.

It’s the same in court. The prosecutor has the burden of proof. Both sides do not have equal burden.
 

Jack

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Jack, I asked you if you know God in your heart..?...it sounds like you only know what you read in the Bible, which imo, comes from your own understanding..

No point discussing with you any further, as my friend, you aren’t understanding what it means to seek the Lord God out with all your “ heart” ...for that is where you will find him.
If you don't believe the Bible is God's Word you don't know God! I suggest you stick your nose in the Bible!
 

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I've been STUDYING
Exactly “ IVE” been studying the Bible...and it shows in your words on this thread.void of spiritual truth...imo, I only see “ Jacks” truth.....flesh talk...that’s all I see...
the Bible for decades. I know Bible ATTACKS when I see them.
Once again Jack...your studying of the Bible, is meaningless without the Spirit....

Everything is about you Jack..that’s a big red flag..you have even said that you try and pull many out of Hell..

No Jack, you can’t pull anyone out of hell..only the Spirit can do that.
 
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Jack

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Exactly “ IVE” been studying the Bible...and it shows in your words on this thread.void of spiritual truth...imo, I only see “ Jacks” truth.....flesh talk...that’s all I see...
You've been studying the Bible or you've been sitting in church?
Once again Jack...your studying of the Bible, is meaningless without the Spirit....
If you don't KNOW the Bible you're following the wrong spirit!
Everything is about you Jack..that’s a big red flag..
Such as? lol
you have even said that you try and pull many out of Hell..
Yes indeed, as Jesus COMMANDED!

Jude 1:22-23
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,

Do you need pulling out of the fire?
No Jack, you can’t pull anyone out of hell..only the Spirit can do that.
God's Word the Bible can do it. That's why you're so upset at me quoting Jesus, God of the Bible!
 
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Ritajanice

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If you don't believe the Bible is God's Word you don't know God! I suggest you stick your nose in the Bible!
I never said the Bible isn’t Gods inspired word.

We can only know God when our spirit is Born Again...the Bible is not the Living Spirit Of God..how do you think that we come Born Again?

Spirit gives birth to spirit?

If you don’t know any of that, then as I said..you are only leading yourself through the scriptures..

You have no heart knowledge Jack...you are even unable to explain what that means?
 

Jack

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I never said the Bible isn’t Gods inspired word.

We can only know God when our spirit is Born Again...the Bible is not the Living Spirit Of God..how do you think that we come Born Again?

Spirit gives birth to spirit?

If you don’t know any of that, then as I said..you are only leading yourself through the scriptures..

You have no heart knowledge Jack...you are even unable to explain what that means?
Then why aren't YOU quoting Jesus??? The Bible clearly speaks for itself! Jesus is God and Hell fire is everlasting! Jesus said so.
 

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You've been studying the Bible or you've been sitting in church?
Who leads you through scripture?
If you don't KNOW the Bible you're following the wrong spirit!
Following a wrong spirit please explain.?

Jack is you spirit Born Again?
Such as? lol

Yes indeed, as Jesus COMMANDED!

Jude 1:22-23
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,

Do you need pulling out of the fire?
You make no sense Jack, why would I need to be pulled out of the fire, what fire Jack?

I’ve already told you that I’m Born Of The Spirit, which means what Jack?

Why aren’t you answering questions?
God's Word the Bible can do it. That's why you're so upset at me quoting Jesus, God of the Bible!
I am not upset with you Jack, you are once again making assumptions.
 

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Then why aren't YOU quoting Jesus??? The Bible clearly speaks for itself! Jesus is God and Hell fire is everlasting! Jesus said so.
There you go, Jack..you are unable to explain heart revelation...

Therefore you have no understanding of the Living Testimony Of God.....

Your knowledge of the Bible is from your own understanding....instead of from God’s Living testimony..you don’t even know what God’s Living testimony is...therefore how can I believe what you post, when you’re unaware of the Living Spirit Of God..

The Spirit testifies with our spirit...which means what Jack?

Good day Jack...when you can actually speak spiritual matters, then get back to me, all you do is talk in the flesh, apart from the odd scripture here and there..bye, may you know the Love Of God in your heart, that you see the Lord God out with all your heart....I do that all day every day ....I seek to know the Heart Of God ,as God is very much Alive and Active in my heart/ spirit...
 
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Jack

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Who leads you through scripture?
Who leads you?
Following a wrong spirit please explain.?
If you knew the Bible you wouldn't even ask!
Jack is you spirit Born Again?
Is you? lol
You make no sense Jack, why would I need to be pulled out of the fire, what fire Jack?
Churches are filled with people heading for Hell.
I’ve already told you that I’m Born Of The Spirit, which means what Jack?
Not if you attack Bible believers!
Why aren’t you answering questions?
You don't seem to like Biblical answers!
I am not upset with you Jack, you are once again making assumptions.
Jesus is God and Hell is everlasting! Jesus said so.
 
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