THE APOSTLES DID NOT ALL PREACH THE SAME GOSPEL

[Jack]

There is more than one gospel in the Bible That had to be believed by those given their gospel in their dispensation

Below is a link of my post here

MORE THAN ONE BIBLE GOSPEL​

You said "THE Gospel".

 

[Doug]

Not preached all at the same time which h is obvious and logical, but the point is it is one gospel not many different ones or that impose different things on different peoples

But may I say that scripture says otherwise
[Gal 2:7 KJV] 7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as [the gospel] of the circumcision [was] unto Peter;
Above are two different gospels

 

[Doug]

I don't know what you're mean..

If you are saying we have to take the gospel message from Peter and combine it with Paul's gospel to get the whole message for salvation then you have to pick and chose what you think it is otherwise you have to follow all that is said in scriptures

For example....[Luk 18:18, 22 KJV] 18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? ... 22 Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.

You would have to sell all to have eternal life....if you dont it would be picking and choosing

I think this was not meant for me to obey because I think it was only directed to Israel in that dispensation but I can learn from it ...just as I dont need to be baptized because I follow Paul who does not command it from Christ Jesus

 

[Doug]

You said "THE Gospel".

There is more than one gospel according to scripture
The gospel given in a particular dispensation must be believed by those to whom it was given

 

[DJT_47]

But may I say that scripture says otherwise
[Gal 2:7 KJV] 7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as [the gospel] of the circumcision [was] unto Peter;
Above are two different gospels

I'm not going to go around in circles with you. There is one gospel, one faith, one Lord, one baptism, for everyone. Believe what you like. Goodbye

 

[rebuilder 454]

There is more than one gospel according to scripture
The gospel given in a particular dispensation must be believed by those to whom it was given

Really?
The Holy Spirit that was upon Jesus, Peter, John, and James was just " messing around in not inspiring words" with everyone but Paul?
Jesus was either preaching the correct way to heaven, or he was not.
( dear Lord...how can ANYONE POSSIBLY MESS THAT UP????)
You actually think Jesus left us with a lie?
Peter was a heretic?
You infer that all but Paul preached a bogus salvation.

That is where that Hyper Pauline beast took you.
Into a biblical confusion.

I know that doctrine well.
It is a hamster wheel of parroting certain verses, and putting all but Paul in some false bogey man baloney.

IOW THE " RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD" doctrine ...(roll eyes).... only DIVIDES GODS WORD.
Nothing "rightly" about it at all.

 

[rebuilder 454]

In Matthew 28 Jesus commanded them to go to all nations but Peter and the apostles decided to only go to the Jews in Galatians 2:9 when they perceived the apostleship of Paul.

It was Paul that said " to the Jew first, and also the Gentiles.
Paul was arrested for preaching to the Jews.
Wow, Paul really messed up huh?
Maybe the other Holy Spirit you assume was on the Apostles was also leading Paul????
Look at the massive amount of time Paul invested in preaching to the Jews.

Hmmmmmm, what a conundrum.
Imagine that!
Paul siding with the Jews??????

 

[rebuilder 454]

There is more than one gospel in the Bible That had to be believed by those given their gospel in their dispensation

Below is a link of my post here

MORE THAN ONE BIBLE GOSPEL​

What gospel did paul give the Jews?
What Gospel did he give the gentiles??

Think carefully.
It IS a trick question.

 

[Doug]

What gospel did paul give the Jews?
What Gospel did he give the gentiles??

Think carefully.
It IS a trick question.

The same gospel 1 Cor 15 1-4

 

[Pierac]

Ephesians 6:19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel.

The mystery of the gospel was revealed by revelations of Jesus Christ only to Paul.

Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

Paul and the twelve Apostles preached Christ. Paul preached Christ according to the mystery and the scriptures of the prophets. The twelve did not preach Christ according to the mystery.

Paul claims the gospel as being "my gospel", which distinguishes it from all others. Paul states his gospel was according to the mystery. The mystery was kept secret until revealed to Paul, which means the twelve Apostles could not have known it.

Paul's gospel is now made manifest.

Ephesians 3:1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,

Paul was an Apostle to the Gentiles.

3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:

God clearly states that there are dispensations. We are in the dispensation of the grace of God. Gentiles can now be saved freely, along with Jews, without the law and covenants. Gentiles no longer are separated from Israel. Gentiles no longer have to come to God through Israel.

3:3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

Jesus revealed the mystery to Paul.

3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

The mystery of the church, the body of Christ, was revealed only to Paul. The body of Christ composed of Jew and Gentile is a new creature seated in heavenly places ( 2 Corinthians 5:17 Ephesians 2:6).

Colossians 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

The mystery was hid even from the twelve disciples, but was made manifest to us by Paul.

Luke 18:31 Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.
18:32 For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on:
18:33 And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.
18:34 And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.

Paul's gospel includes the death, burial, and the resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). The twelve Apostles had no understanding of any of this according to Luke 18:34. Even though Jesus told them of his death and resurrection they didn't understand as it was hid from them. The twelve Apostles could not have been preaching the same gospel as Paul.

Matthew 4:23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.

Mark 1:14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

Jesus was preaching the gospel of the promised Davidic kingdom (Luke 1:32-33 Ezekiel 24-28 Isaiah 9:7 2:2-3 Exodus 19:6).

Luke 9:1 Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases.
9:2 And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.
9:6 And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where.

The twelve Apostles were not preaching the same gospel as Paul, but rather the gospel of the kingdom, which Paul never preached.

It is imperative to believe the gospel that was given to us and be justified unto eternal life.

The gospel has been progressively revealed throughout scripture. Those that believed the gospel revealed in their dispensations, believed God, and were justified unto eternal life (Romans 4:3). If you only believe that the kingdom is at hand (Mark 1:15), as preached by the twelve, you are lost. If you only believe in the name of Jesus, as preached by the twelve, that he is the Christ, the Son of God (John 20:31), you are lost. If you only believe you should repent and be baptized (Acts 2:38) you are lost. If you only believe the gospels of the twelve Apostles you are lost.

The gospel given us in this dispensation is only found in the epistles of Paul; examples being Romans 3:19-26 and 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

Don't be Stupid...

Mark 12:30 AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH.' 31 "The second is this, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' There is no other commandment greater than these." 32 The scribe said to Him, "Right, Teacher; You have truly stated that HE IS ONE, AND THERE IS NO ONE ELSE BESIDES HIM; 33 AND TO LOVE HIM WITH ALL THE HEART AND WITH ALL THE UNDERSTANDING AND WITH ALL THE STRENGTH, AND TO LOVE ONE'S NEIGHBOR AS HIMSELF, is much more than all burnt offerings and sacrifices."


Jam 2:8 If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, "YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF," you are doing well. (James)

Gal 5:14 For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, "YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF." (Paul)

Please stop posting.... what your told in Church and start to actually read...

 

[Doug]

Don't be Stupid...

Mark 12:30 AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH.' 31 "The second is this, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' There is no other commandment greater than these." 32 The scribe said to Him, "Right, Teacher; You have truly stated that HE IS ONE, AND THERE IS NO ONE ELSE BESIDES HIM; 33 AND TO LOVE HIM WITH ALL THE HEART AND WITH ALL THE UNDERSTANDING AND WITH ALL THE STRENGTH, AND TO LOVE ONE'S NEIGHBOR AS HIMSELF, is much more than all burnt offerings and sacrifices."


Jam 2:8 If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, "YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF," you are doing well. (James)

Gal 5:14 For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, "YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF." (Paul)

Please stop posting.... what your told in Church and start to actually read...

Similarities in scripture do not negate the differences

 

[Pierac]

Similarities in scripture do not negate the differences

Doug.... You sound like my wife... I don't know if I should thank you... or tell you to mind your own business.... LOL!!!

 

[Jack]

There is more than one gospel according to scripture
The gospel given in a particular dispensation must be believed by those to whom it was given

And the Gospel is the New Covenant. All of it!

 

[Doug]

Doug.... You sound like my wife... I don't know if I should thank you... or tell you to mind your own business.... LOL!!!

Maybe you should listen to your wife!......haha
Tell her to read my posts

 

[Doug]

And the Gospel is the New Covenant. All of it!

Please expound on what you think the new covenant is......it can mean more than one thing

 

[Jack]

Please expound on what you think the new covenant is......it can mean more than one thing

It's all about Jesus! Matthew - Revelation.

 

[Grailhunter]

I think I have addressed this topic before…….As a whole the way to understand the New Testament is that, it is all the Gospel.

The 4 texts about Christ’s ministry were written in the time of the Old Covenant under the observance of the Mosaic Laws.

In these texts a lot of the time when Christ is talking He is talking to Jews about the Mosaic Law. And a lot of that does not directly pertain to Christianity. And then some of the time He is talking to His Apostles and some times talking privately with others about Christianity.

Paul’s ministry is exactly what it appears to be. Christ gives Paul special insight to the details of Christianity and as with Peter’s joining with Paul’s ministry….he is the rock that the foundation of Christianity was built on.

 

[Doug]

In these texts a lot of the time when Christ is talking He is talking to Jews about the Mosaic Law.

Yes I agree

 

[Doug]

And then some of the time He is talking to His Apostles and some times talking privately with others about Christianity.

Could you please tell me how you define Christianity and please give me some examples when Christ talked about it

 

[CadyandZoe]

Right
but the twelve preached faith in His name that He is Christ and the Son of God
Paul preached the cross

These are the same idea.