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God’s Plan for our Time:
As the years pass by, we may wonder what it is that the Lord has next for His creation. We know the story of how He destroyed an early civilization by the means of a great flood. Jesus prophesied that in the time of the end it will again be ‘as in the days of Noah’. We can’t know how bad that civilization was, but it seems they just got on with life much the same as we do today. From God’s point of view, their problem was they failed to acknowledge Him or respect His Laws, so their Creator simply wiped them out and virtually started over again, just like anything made that turns out defective is remoulded, or with breeding; try a new bloodline. Isaiah 64:8, Jeremiah 18:6-7, Romans 9:20-21
So are the world’s people today as bad as those in Noah’s day? It seems likely, as evidenced by the decline in moral standards and the widespread disbelief in the Creator God. Jeremiah 6:18-19, Psalms 10:13, Ezekiel 20:39

Several Bible verses tell us that God the Creator takes a keen interest in what is happening on earth. Revelation 2:23b, Job 34:21-22, Proverbs 15:3, Psalms 11:4-5, Jer. 32:18-19 In our perfectly balanced and organised universe, He is playing out a drama, a set piece carefully orchestrated and arranged so that each player can choose their own role. Each person is given a conscience; a moral intuition to be aware of what is right and what is wrong, so we all make our choices as to how we live our lives.

Today, the whole world is in a precarious state, with a population of over 8 billion. There is the capacity to produce enough food and provide a reasonable lifestyle for that many, but not the altruistic desire to do so and human mismanagement exacerbates the problems. Therefore the situation deteriorates, life is difficult and short for most and only relatively few live a good and fulfilling life, while most people do not acknowledge the one true God or keep His Laws. Over 100 Bible prophesies say how God will judge the world and punish His enemies, to once again ‘reset civilization’. Deuteronomy 32:35, Psalms 18:7-15, Isaiah 2:12, Isaiah 30:25-28, Habakkuk 3:12, Zephaniah 3:8, Hebrews 10:27, 2 Thess. 1:8, Jeremiah 23:19-20, Revelation 14:17-20

Note that most of the prophesies about the great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, which is the next prophesied event we can expect: being the fulfilment of Psalms 83, Micah 4:11-12, Rev. 6:12-17, state that this time He will use fire to ‘set the heavens ablaze, the earth will be enveloped in flames and all that is in it will be brought to judgement’. 2 Peter 3:7, Isaiah 30:25-28, Malachi 4:1, Isaiah 66:15-16, Zephaniah 3:8

But the Lord’s people have a Powerful Advocate, He promises to protect and save His righteous people. Jer. 50:33-34, Isa. 51:16, Nahum 1:7, Psalms 60:4-5, Zech. 9:15-16
They will go to live in all of the holy Land; Isaiah 35, Ezekiel 34:11-16, Romans 9:24-26

Psalms 30:1-5 I shall exalt You Lord, for You have lifted me up and not let enemies prevail. I cried out to You and You healed me, You saved my life as I was sinking into the abyss. Sing praises to the Lord, all you His loyal servants, give thanks to His holy name. In His anger there is punishment, but in His favour there is life. There may be distress at nightfall, but the morning will bring rejoicing.
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God’s Plan for our Time:
As the years pass by, we may wonder what it is that the Lord has next for His creation. We know the story of how He destroyed an early civilization by the means of a great flood. Jesus prophesied that in the time of the end it will again be ‘as in the days of Noah’. We can’t know how bad that civilization was, but it seems they just got on with life much the same as we do today. From God’s point of view, their problem was they failed to acknowledge Him or respect His Laws, so their Creator simply wiped them out and virtually started over again, just like anything made that turns out defective is remoulded, or with breeding; try a new bloodline. Isaiah 64:8, Jeremiah 18:6-7, Romans 9:20-21
So are the world’s people today as bad as those in Noah’s day? It seems likely, as evidenced by the decline in moral standards and the widespread disbelief in the Creator God. Jeremiah 6:18-19, Psalms 10:13, Ezekiel 20:39

Several Bible verses tell us that God the Creator takes a keen interest in what is happening on earth. Revelation 2:23b, Job 34:21-22, Proverbs 15:3, Psalms 11:4-5, Jer. 32:18-19 In our perfectly balanced and organised universe, He is playing out a drama, a set piece carefully orchestrated and arranged so that each player can choose their own role. Each person is given a conscience; a moral intuition to be aware of what is right and what is wrong, so we all make our choices as to how we live our lives.

Today, the whole world is in a precarious state, with a population of over 8 billion. There is the capacity to produce enough food and provide a reasonable lifestyle for that many, but not the altruistic desire to do so and human mismanagement exacerbates the problems. Therefore the situation deteriorates, life is difficult and short for most and only relatively few live a good and fulfilling life, while most people do not acknowledge the one true God or keep His Laws. Over 100 Bible prophesies say how God will judge the world and punish His enemies, to once again ‘reset civilization’. Deuteronomy 32:35, Psalms 18:7-15, Isaiah 2:12, Isaiah 30:25-28, Habakkuk 3:12, Zephaniah 3:8, Hebrews 10:27, 2 Thess. 1:8, Jeremiah 23:19-20, Revelation 14:17-20

Note that most of the prophesies about the great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, which is the next prophesied event we can expect: being the fulfilment of Psalms 83, Micah 4:11-12, Rev. 6:12-17, state that this time He will use fire to ‘set the heavens ablaze, the earth will be enveloped in flames and all that is in it will be brought to judgement’. 2 Peter 3:7, Isaiah 30:25-28, Malachi 4:1, Isaiah 66:15-16, Zephaniah 3:8

But the Lord’s people have a Powerful Advocate, He promises to protect and save His righteous people. Jer. 50:33-34, Isa. 51:16, Nahum 1:7, Psalms 60:4-5, Zech. 9:15-16
They will go to live in all of the holy Land; Isaiah 35, Ezekiel 34:11-16, Romans 9:24-26

Psalms 30:1-5 I shall exalt You Lord, for You have lifted me up and not let enemies prevail. I cried out to You and You healed me, You saved my life as I was sinking into the abyss. Sing praises to the Lord, all you His loyal servants, give thanks to His holy name. In His anger there is punishment, but in His favour there is life. There may be distress at nightfall, but the morning will bring rejoicing.
Ref: logostelos.info
Thanks. Which Scheme of Eschatology does this represent?
 

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My expert opinion (lol) is that God will save, before during and after the tribulation. My eschatology does not limit God.

Of course, Revelation was the first part of the Bible I ever read, and I have only come to accept recently that I "may never understand it".

What I have learned anyway, is that as a Christian I need restraint, to do good works and to develop a distinction (that is different from the world) - these things will help me overcome the world, no matter what happens in it!
 
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Which Eschatology is your favorite, and Why?


Post-trib second coming and rapture, pre-Millennial second coming and rapture. ie: posttrib, premill

So, Tribulation then second coming and rapture, Millennium, judgment day/LOF and then New heaven and Earth for eternity.

Why? It's the only doctrines I can find to be actually supported by scripture rather than beliefs forced into scripture where they don't belong.
 

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Which Eschatology is your favorite, and Why?
I am a futurist. Which, that view is that most of "the time of the end /latter days/latter years" prophecies are still unfulfilled.

There are two basic studies when put together form the basis for a timeline of the futurist view.

1. the path of the arch villain individual of the end times on his way to his destruction. Generically, and most often referred to as the "Antichrist".

2. the arrangement of the time frames of events, as given in the bible, old and new testaments. The fundamental framework is a 7 year timeframe, into which there are components.

Making timeline charts is an important method that supplements verbally describing timeline events. For example, the path of the arch villain on a time line chart. Start at the left and read toward the right.



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another example of a timeline chart, but this one for events....


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The No rapture truth.
The imminent Day the Lord will change the world.
The facts of how we must endure until the end.
Keraz, you are futurist. @Hey You! there are many different positions within the futurist view over topics like the rapture. The futurist view is the most popular view.

There are three fundamental eschatology views:
1. preterist/partial preterist
2. historist
3. futurist.
 

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Here is an overall timeline chart of the 7 years of my futurist view. Start in the upper left, and follow the red line to the lower right. Events are annotated on the chart, along with the associated bible passages.


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Here is another time line chart of the same seven years, but with additional information.

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And in case you are wondering, here are all the time frames of the end times given in the bible, on a table I made.


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Bamboozling to take you down rabbit warrens. Be careful!
 

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@Hey You! Here is a timeline chart I made of the time frame/events components of the 7 years.



compoinets of the seven years in Revelaiton5 update .jpg
 

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I just came here to say the same thing! What is eschatology?
eschatology is a branch of theology that studies what will take place in the end times of this present age of mankind.
 
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