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Yes, Jesus is God, and it is He who has been speaking to you--not me (just as He said it would occur).
Can you even fit your head through the grand canyon with that ego of yours? I know when He speaks to me through others- and it ain't you.

BTW Do you believe in transubstantiation?
 

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No...I do not "believe" but know. But not specifically to @Ronald Nolette, but to all.

But do not misunderstand
, there are many who speak in much the same way, but do so falsely not having been sent by God. There are indeed those who feel empowered to do so, but stemming from a false foundation which began even during the early church, who simply don't know any better. As it is written: "For more are the children of the desolate Than the children of the married woman,” says the LORD" (Isaiah 54:1). Even so, Jesus arranged for those who would be sent who would not speak, but the Holy Spirit in them would speak, guiding us who are His into "all truth" as He promised. In other words, all who claim to be sent by God and claim their words are from God, are not to be believed--but some are.

But it should be no mystery that because of false teachers entering into the church teaching false and destructive doctrines beginning during the times of the apostles, that in order to come out of such apostacy, that words of correction should also come to fulfill the promise of being guided into all truth. If one actually considers every word--it should actually be expected. But is such an expectation common among the church today? Not even!
Will you list some of these false teachings? As you assume I am steeped in them, here is your chance to teach me.
 

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Look Verily,
This gets really tiring.
Learn some history.
I will do that, thank you.

Find out who the leader of the Apostles was.
Hebrews says the leader of the apostles and the very Apostle of our profession is Jesus, See?

Heb 3:1-2 Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus; Who was faithful to him that appointed him, as also Moses was faithful in all his house.
Find out who the Bishop of Rome was.
I looked up Peter in Rome the scriptures dont appear to say, but Peter calls Jesus both the Shepherd and Bishop of our souls also.

1Peter 2:24-25 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

Although our Lords location is neither in Texas, China or Rome specifically why would some bishop located in Rome mean something to me?

Find out how many bishops there were and where.
Should I be able to count these on both hands or should I use both fingers and toes?
Did they have GPS trackers? (kidding)
Find out why there were bishops. -----
Because someone needed to be apt to teach the scriptures in Latin?
To take oversight of the altar boys?
I forget, would that be a bishop or deacon?
This is embarssing, I think I do need to brush up on things.
That was tongue n' cheek in the above
The NT commands that we have them...you might have skipped that part.
I do acknowledge there exists men who are required to be blameless to actually be one, who are not to behave as lords over anyone, but rather examples to the flock.
Or stay ignorant of the history of your faith.
Your choice.
If faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God (which is rich with history) I have studied it nearly every day for well over 35 years.I don't see how God would (through his word) seek to keep me ignorant of the history of my faith by doing so.
 

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I will do that, thank you.


Hebrews says the leader of the apostles and the very Apostle of our profession is Jesus, See?
Oi vey.
Heb 3:1-2 Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus; Who was faithful to him that appointed him, as also Moses was faithful in all his house.

I looked up Peter in Rome the scriptures dont appear to say, but Peter calls Jesus both the Shepherd and Bishop of our souls also.
Oi vey.
1Peter 2:24-25 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

Although our Lords location is neither in Texas, China or Rome specifically why would some bishop located in Rome mean something to me?
Oi vey.
Should I be able to count these on both hands or should I use both fingers and toes?
Did they have GPS trackers? (kidding)
One hand.
Because someone needed to be apt to teach the scriptures in Latin?
To take oversight of the altar boys?
I forget, would that be a bishop or deacon?
This is embarssing, I think I do need to brush up on things.
That was tongue n' cheek in the above
Oi vey.
Your hatred is showing through again.

I do acknowledge there exists men who are required to be blameless to actually be one, who are not to behave as lords over anyone, but rather examples to the flock.

If faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God (which is rich with history) I have studied it nearly every day for well over 35 years.I don't see how God would (through his word) seek to keep me ignorant of the history of my faith by doing so.
Oi Vey.

I'm talking about HISTORY...
You know...like George Washington was the first President of the United States...
stuff like that.

YOU...I don't know what YOU are talking about...
but this is it for me.
 
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"Oy vey" is a Yiddish expression commonly used in Jewish culture to express dismay, frustration, or exasperation. (aimed at a reference to the scripture)
"Oy vey" is a Yiddish expression commonly used in Jewish culture to express dismay, frustration, or exasperation. (aimed at a reference to the scripture)
"Oy vey" is a Yiddish expression commonly used in Jewish culture to express dismay, frustration, or exasperation. (aimed at a reference to the scripture)

One hand.
You answer to a joke here, but I cannot find that number of bishops in scripture

Oi vey.
Your hatred is showing through again.
My hatred was aimed at "what" exactly? The old Latin preaching (in another tongue) where no one on earth could say "Amen" (because as Paul might say, "How can they"?) or was it the mention of the altar boy scandals?

What do you expect? Am I supposed to love such things?
Oi Vey.

I'm talking about HISTORY...
You know...like George Washington was the first President of the United States...
stuff like that.
These are your own words right here,

" Or stay ignorant of the history of your faith.
Your choice."

My answer to the history of my faith in Jesus Christ has nothing to do with George Washington of or any other president of the United States . Are you serious? clfh

I answered you according to your own words to me concerning the history of my faith which came by hearing the word of God and then you posted an expression of fustration at that, saying " Oi Vey." Because you actually meant George Washington?clfh

Com on, I was aiming for all "Amen's" for the words of God in my answers but I got all "Oi Vey's" instead?

YOU...I don't know what YOU are talking about...
but this is it for me.

You might have to rephrase that GodsGrace, this was a little muffled

Edit: typos
 

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"Oy vey" is a Yiddish expression commonly used in Jewish culture to express dismay, frustration, or exasperation. (aimed at a reference to the scripture)

"Oy vey" is a Yiddish expression commonly used in Jewish culture to express dismay, frustration, or exasperation. (aimed at a reference to the scripture)

"Oy vey" is a Yiddish expression commonly used in Jewish culture to express dismay, frustration, or exasperation. (aimed at a reference to the scripture)


You answer to a joke here, but I cannot find that number of bishops in scripture
Oi vey.
My hatred was aimed "what" exactly? The old Latin preaching (in another tongue) where no one on earth could say "Amen" (because as Paul might say, "How can they"?) or was it the mention of the altar boy scandals?
How ignorant are you?
EVERYONE that attended MASS when it was in Latin could follow along 100% in latin.

What do you expect? Am I supposed to love such things?

These are your own words right here,

" Or stay ignorant of the history of your faith.
Your choice."

My answer to the history of my faith in Jesus Christ has nothing to do with George Washington of or any other president of the United States . Are you serious? clfh
Oi Vey.
I answered you according to your own words to me concerning the history of my faith which came by hearing the word of God and then posted an expression of fustration at that saying " Oi Vey." Because you actually meant George Washington?clfh

Com on, I was aiming for all "Amen's" for the words of God in my answers but I got all "Oi Vey's" instead?
Oi vey.
You might have to rephrase that GodsGrace, this was a little muffled
I'm not rephrasing anything.
I've said what I want to say and YOU have nothing to offer.
 
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Not again
How ignorant are you?
Apparently very
EVERYONE that attended MASS when it was in Latin could follow along 100% in latin.
Good to know
You wanted a conversation no?
I must not be doing so well here.
I'm not rephrasing anything.
The sentence just did not make sense as written that is why I thought suggesting you rephrase it could make it easier for me to grasp what you were trying to say.

Sometimes I have to do that myself.

I've said what I want to say and YOU have nothing to offer.

Sometimes I do run on "E" forgive me.
 

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Not again

Apparently very

Good to know

You wanted a conversation no?

I must not be doing so well here.

The sentence just did not make sense as written that is why I thought suggesting you rephrase it could make it easier for me to grasp what you were trying to say.

Sometimes I have to do that myself.



Sometimes I do run on "E" forgive me.
Well, at least you're not a mean person that claims to be Christian.
I'm not mad either...I'm just tired of having to post stuff that should be VERY CLEAR.
'night.
 
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You're all over different time periods above.

I was referring to THE EARLY CHURCH, right after Jesus and by the end of the first century when the early church was established with the Missionary Journeys.
I have given the precedence of days gone by as an example given also by God. If you can't connect the dots, that is indeed a problem--because it means you are not hearing "what the Spirit says to the churches."

I understood what you were saying, but apparently you have not fully understood all that is written of those times--because you have left out what Jesus, Peter, Paul, and John have said in addition to what you have referred to, which is only part of what is true. Partial truth, is the making of a "lie"--exactly what was foretold to occur...and you apparently have believed it.
 

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I have given the precedence of days gone by as an example given also by God. If you can't connect the dots, that is indeed a problem--because it means you are not hearing "what the Spirit says to the churches."

I understood what you were saying, but apparently you have not fully understood all that is written of those times--because you have left out what Jesus, Peter, Paul, and John have said in addition to what you have referred to, which is only part of what is true. Partial truth, is the making of a "lie"--exactly what was foretold to occur...and you apparently have believed it.
I hate riddles. I'm talking HISTORY,,,you're talking the NT. And never the twain shall meet.
Good night Scott.
Almost midnight here.
 
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Well, at least you're not a mean person that claims to be Christian.
I'm not mad either...I'm just tired of having to post stuff that should be VERY CLEAR.
'night.
I am not angry at you either Godsgrace, theres nothing to be angry with you about.
I expressed my lack of desire for entering into the discussion because I find most of
the points of contentions pretty lame, but if pressed to take it up I will sometimes "bite"
and throw in my own (while doing it half heartedly) to bring a faster end of it. Should
have bowed out more graciously, and said, "Thank you perhaps another day"

Good night GodsGrace
 
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Will you list some of these false teachings? As you assume I am steeped in them, here is your chance to teach me.
Finally, a reasonable response appropriate for these times. Thank you!

The "lie" is one lie (though it effects many areas of what has been believed) was only stated as one by Paul, but not revealed at that time, as the final piece was foretold by Daniel, and John as not to be revealed until the time of the end, or just before the sounding of the seventh angel. Which I am able to tell you--not because I am special or any of the other words you have used to describe me, but because it was foretold to come "as He declared through His servants the prophets"--in other words, by the same means, which was by one chosen by God. In spite of your great rejection of any such thing even being possible--that is His method, and He has declared it to be the same regarding the "finish of the mystery of God", or His final revelation finishing all that is written by revealing the contents of the little book previewed by John--which is no addition to what is written, but rather the revealing of what was also written, but sealed until the end.

These things are all written and I have claimed nothing new, unless it is new to you--which is not new, but simply has not been known before now--not to anyone, except "His servants the prophets." You are not alone.

The "lie" was and is the timing of Jesus' return. Which as He himself said "must shortly take place" (Revelation 22:6. Which He only eluded to, as did Paul, because of the prophecy and plan of God to seal and restrain until the end. Leaving many to speculate that His return would not "shortly take place" against what Jesus himself said. Which has consequently effected the interpretation and understanding of many other points of scripture, thus being referred to as "strong delusion."

But you don't have to believe any of it. Your choice. Even so, it is written.
 
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I hate riddles.
Then throw your Bible away--'cause it's full of riddles!

But seriously, as I said before, scripture is a language all its own, having only one true translation available set on time-release. We are suppose to hear the riddles of scriptures which most commonly come through His servants the prophets, then hear the translation from our Father in heaven, and finally we are to receive the finish of it--the last pieces of the puzzle, just before the end by those same means. That is what is written.
 
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No...I do not "believe" but know. But not specifically to @Ronald Nolette, but to all.

But do not misunderstand
, there are many who speak in much the same way, but do so falsely not having been sent by God. There are indeed those who feel empowered to do so, but stemming from a false foundation which began even during the early church, who simply don't know any better. As it is written: "For more are the children of the desolate Than the children of the married woman,” says the LORD" (Isaiah 54:1). Even so, Jesus arranged for those who would be sent who would not speak, but the Holy Spirit in them would speak, guiding us who are His into "all truth" as He promised. In other words, all who claim to be sent by God and claim their words are from God, are not to be believed--but some are.

But it should be no mystery that because of false teachers entering into the church teaching false and destructive doctrines beginning during the times of the apostles, that in order to come out of such apostacy, that words of correction should also come to fulfill the promise of being guided into all truth. If one actually considers every word--it should actually be expected. But is such an expectation common among the church today? Not even!
He don’t seem to think that about you though does he.Ronald.

Yes, you say you know..but in reality I know that you have just posted what you believe a commentary.../ opinion of what you believe.
 

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And by what means do you know, by what I posted is not true?
Since you have accused me of not being true, I have called you out--not to repeat myself, but that you might look at yourself before accusing others.

If you missed my explanation, I can indeed repeat it, not so much for you, but that I might again repeat it as being true:

As with most of what I post here on Christianity Board, I do so as one caught up to the third heaven in the presence of God and given a task, the finer points of which I have openly expressed many times when called for. In most cases however, I am not here for discussion, although I am happy to do so, but am here rather to declare those things which have been given to me having been sent for just such a purpose. Such things given by God simply aren't debatable. Which, yes, is often rejected and criticized, as has been the case with many sent by God.

Does that answer your question?
 

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I have not accused you of anything..I voiced my opinion...I’m allowed to do that....you voice what you believe, prove how you know what you say is Gods truth...why would I take what you say at face value?...

You got caught up in the third heaven?...which means what...scripture please?

Not really, no...again , you posted your opinion/ belief...
Not true. But I have told you enough. If you know the scriptures, do your own homework.