What will the 1000 year kingdom on earth Jesus reigns over look like.

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covenantee

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Well if my optometric issues are the biggest problem, I am doing fine.

So, is Justin Martyr's writings as infallible as Scripture? If He is so infallible, why do millions disagree with Him?

why do the people who seem to love him the most are those who believe in covenant theology and replacement theology as you do?

YOu have still failed to show how every Jew now knows the Lord and no longer need to be evangelized as the Covenant said will happen when it is in effect.

You still haven't shown how Gentiles became Jews in teh desert and broje th Mosaic Covenant so that Gentiles could be considered the Fathers of jews and Gentiles

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:

Please sho wme when god made an old covenant with Gentiles or the church and when did we brake it?

What is taking you so long!:hmhehm
If millions disagree with him, then there should be a plethora of examples meeting the stated criteria:

A recognized defender of the True Faith between 100 AD and 1800 AD who denies what Justin Martyr declares about the New Covenant.

Waiting for you to provide just one example of such an individual.

Just one example.

Shouldn't take long at all. :laughing:

There are millions of them. :laughing:
 
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John 4:21
Jesus replied, “Woman, believe Me, a time is coming [when God’s kingdom comes] when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
Exactly. That is what I was referring to. But, Premils think that God, after Christ returns, will inexplicably require people to go to Jerusalem again to worship Him instead of requiring people to worship Him in spirit and in truth, as has been the case the past almost 2,000 years since Jesus said His people must worship Him in spirit and in truth. I don't see any indication that Jesus said the time had come "when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem", but some time later people will again have to go to the mountain in Jerusalem to worship Him. That makes no sense, yet that is what Premils believe.
 
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If millions disagree with him, then there should be a plethora of examples meeting the stated criteria:

A recognized defender of the True Faith between 100 AD and 1800 AD who denies what Justin Martyr declares about the New Covenant.

Waiting for you to provide just one example of such an individual.
I am waiting for you to show that for 1800 years your hypotrhesis was teh overwhelming opinion in the orthodox churches! Nasmes please and cited. Justin Martyr is but a grain of sand you said is a massive desert!

Still waiting.

also do you consider the teachings of the RCC from the 5th through 16th century as orthodox and authoratative on these issues?

These wewre asked first so answerr these so we can move on.

also waiting for you r answer if you believe the following are fulfilled (in effect) as declared in teh new covenant:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

If you believe it- the show form history when verse 33 went into effect and please show when Jews no longer needed to be evangelized.

Shouldn't be hard, you said they are in effect!:hmhehm
 

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I am waiting for you to show that for 1800 years your hypotrhesis was teh overwhelming opinion in the orthodox churches! Nasmes please and cited. Justin Martyr is but a grain of sand you said is a massive desert!

Still waiting.

also do you consider the teachings of the RCC from the 5th through 16th century as orthodox and authoratative on these issues?

These wewre asked first so answerr these so we can move on.

also waiting for you r answer if you believe the following are fulfilled (in effect) as declared in teh new covenant:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

If you believe it- the show form history when verse 33 went into effect and please show when Jews no longer needed to be evangelized.

Shouldn't be hard, you said they are in effect!:hmhehm
Classic dispen ignorance and arrogance.

Dispen demands evidence from others, but declares itself immune to the same obligation.

Thanks for the guffaws. :laughing:


There are millions of them. :laughing:

Predictably, you can't cite even one.

Because even one did not exist.

Thanks for the confirmation. :D

Justin Martyr's declarations regarding the New Covenant were the unanimous Scriptural doctrines of historic orthodox Christianity until 1800 AD.

Dispensational modernist revisionist denialist heresy did not appear until thereafter.

It is an abomination of desecration upon Christ's Blood and New Covenant.

But They will never lose Their Power.
 
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Classic dispen ignorance and arrogance.

Dispen demands evidence from others, but declares itself immune to the same obligation.

Thanks for the guffaws. :laughing:
No, I am willing to provide evidence as I have already have, but I am now expecting you to answer questions I first asked you before I answer the ones you asked me afterwards.

I don't remember the name of this debate ploy, but sorry, you answer then I will gladly answer.
Justin Martyr's declarations regarding the New Covenant were the unanimous Scriptural doctrines of historic orthodox Christianity until 1800 AD.
And yet you still refuse and avoid answering the question I asked you. Do you believe that the RCC was orthodox christianity from the 5th-16th century? Please answer this.

You mock when I don't answer your questions, but you have left a pile of unanswered questions on this thread.
Dispensational modernist revisionist denialist heresy did not appear until thereafter.

It is an abomination of desecration upon Christ's Blood and New Covenant.
Is this just another one of your empty false accusations or are you prepared to show why dispensational theology with a literal hermeneutic is an abomination of desecration as you just vomited out?
 

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Dispensational modernist revisionist denialist heresy did not appear until thereafter.

It is an abomination of desecration upon Christ's Blood and New Covenant.
The correct term is re-appeared after the reformation got most of the major doctrines of Scripture brought to light again after a millennia being in the dark.

But dispensational hermeneutic with its literal/historical/grammatical understanding of Scripture does far far far less harm compared to your Covenant allegorical hermeneutic. so many covenant denominations have their reinterpretations of Scripture (some call it reading between the lines, some call it, I know what Scripture says, but this is what it means). you all disagree with one another and all claim you have the right "interpretation" of what passages are "suppossedly" means.
 

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And yet you still refuse and avoid answering the question I asked you. Do you believe that the RCC was orthodox christianity from the 5th-16th century? Please answer this.
My first request regarding Justin Martyr was issued in post 136.

In what post was your first request regarding the RCC?

Hint: It was after post 136.
 

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I must have missed the evidence from 100 AD - 1800 AD that you claim you've provided.

Please refresh.
As soon as you answer the questions I asked of you and you have avoided that came before the 100-1800AD thing.

BTW do you consider teh Roman church from the 5th -16th century to be the orthodox church?
 

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My first request regarding Justin Martyr was issued in post 136.

In what post was your first request regarding the RCC?

Hint: It was after post 136.
No I have asked about other things which you have avoided answering before Justin Martyr was penned on this thread by you.

BTW: do you consider teh Roman church the orthodox church from the 5th-16th century?

Maybe you can try answering the question I posed in post#62? Long before your post 136.
 

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As soon as you answer the questions I asked of you and you have avoided that came before the 100-1800AD thing.

BTW do you consider teh Roman church from the 5th -16th century to be the orthodox church?
0 evidence.

Thanks for the confirmation. :laughing:
 

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No I have asked about other things which you have avoided answering before Justin Martyr was penned on this thread by you.

BTW: do you consider teh Roman church the orthodox church from the 5th-16th century?

Maybe you can try answering the question I posed in post#62? Long before your post 136.
Answered by the sources in post 149.

You simply refuse to believe them.

There's nothing God or anyone else can do about that.
 

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BTW: do you consider teh Roman church the orthodox church from the 5th-16th century?
No.

Your turn.

Awaiting a recognized defender of the True Faith between 100 AD and 1800 AD who denied that the New Covenant is in effect.
 
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No.

Your turn.

Awaiting a recognized defender of the True Faith between 100 AD and 1800 AD who denied that the New Covenant is in effect.
Well I need to know if you hold the roman church from the 5th -16th Century to be part of you rorthodox claim? Can't answer till we know your answer on this.
 

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Answered by the sources in post 149.

You simply refuse to believe them.

There's nothing God or anyone else can do about that.
Wrong as usual but thanks for playing!

But please answer when in history this provision of the new covenenant went into effect:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

You have not answered this. You have reinterpreted it but provided no support for taking the word of God and redefine it.

BTW do you hold that the Roman church from the 5th-16th century was the orthodox church?