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It was part of the overall depopulation agenda. Knock off 15% for abortions, promote LGBTQ and increase those numbers, vaccines that kill elderly and sterilize youths, pestilence, even wars ... still it is not enough for these elites who would prefer a 90% decrease in population. They don't really care about these people, it's just a cold extermination of procreation, a numbers game. In the last 70 years, the world has tripled it's population. So when they look to the future, they realize the world could not sustain 25 billion in 70 years from now; so they began long ago to try to slow this population growth down. I would imagine in the Utopian New World Order their likely would be a restriction to one child per family Or procreation may only be granted to privileged elites?
 
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It was part of the overall depopulation agenda. Knock off 15% for abortions, promote LGBTQ and increase those numbers, vaccines that kill elderly and sterilize youths, pestilence, even wars ... still it is not enough for these elites who would prefer a 90% decrease in population. They don't really care about these people, it's just a cold extermination of procreation, a numbers game. In the last 70 years, the world has tripled it's population. So when they look to the future, they realize the world could not sustain 25 billion in 70 years from now; so they began long ago to try to slow this population growth down. I would imagine in the Utopian New World Order their likely would be a restriction to one child per family Or procreation may only be granted to privileged elites?
Remember the movie Logan”s Run? When they turned 30 they were killed
 

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Thank God the President banned this craziness!!! Now if they can ban the brainwashing of children from the schools about being transgender. I know President Trump doesn't agree with that.

Young children don't think about such things. Perverted adults are influencing the kids.
 

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It's terrible we have to hear about these things at all.
I watched a vid about a woman who wanted to be blinded as blind people have a better life, and she was depressed about living because she could see, and everything she saw to her was ugliness. So, her psychiatrist bought acid and pours it into her eyes to blind her. She now walks around as a blind person.

She is a mental case, and her doc is an enabler, very evil, just like the docs doing this to children.
 

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It was part of the overall depopulation agenda. Knock off 15% for abortions, promote LGBTQ and increase those numbers, vaccines that kill elderly and sterilize youths, pestilence, even wars ... still it is not enough for these elites who would prefer a 90% decrease in population. They don't really care about these people, it's just a cold extermination of procreation, a numbers game. In the last 70 years, the world has tripled it's population. So when they look to the future, they realize the world could not sustain 25 billion in 70 years from now; so they began long ago to try to slow this population growth down. I would imagine in the Utopian New World Order their likely would be a restriction to one child per family Or procreation may only be granted to privileged elites?
Well said!
 
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It's terrible we have to hear about these things at all.
I watched a vid about a woman who wanted to be blinded as blind people have a better life, and she was depressed about living because she could see, and everything she saw to her was ugliness. So, her psychiatrist bought acid and pours it into her eyes to blind her. She now walks around as a blind person.

She is a mental case, and her doc is an enabler, very evil, just like the docs doing this to children.
Pyschiatrists have a high suicide rate. They can't even help themselves! But they sure make lots of $$$!
 

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Pyschiatrists have a high suicide rate. They can't even help themselves! But they sure make lots of $$$!
I dont know how true that is but if you were listening to everyones problems from morning till night day in and day out you'd probably want to drive off a cliff too. How the heck is it a cure for people to ferment in all of their inner wrong think? They might be better off if they stopped obsessively thinking and talking about themselves so much and start sitting at the Lords feet and listening to the word of God whose words are truth and life, that they might get well. Its free too, you wouldnt need to go broke trying to pay for these overpriced, overpromoted pseudo pyschiatric sessions.

In this case their money is making them miserable by being a paid ear to peoples problems being dumped on them day in and day out, so it cant be a healthy way to deal with things.
 

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I dont know how true that is but if you were listening to everyones problems from morning till night day in and day out you'd probably want to drive off a cliff too. How the heck is it a cure for people to ferment in all of their inner wrong think? They might be better off if they stopped obsessively thinking and talking about themselves so much and start sitting at the Lords feet and listening to the word of God whose words are truth and life, that they might get well. Its free too, you wouldnt need to go broke trying to pay for these overpriced, overpromoted pseudo pyschiatric sessions.

In this case their money is making them miserable by being a paid ear to peoples problems being dumped on them day in and day out, so it cant be a healthy way to deal with things.
Wouldn’t they feel good about the people they help? Seeing someone get better would probably cheer them up
 

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Wouldn’t they feel good about the people they help? Seeing someone get better would probably cheer them up
Apparently not if they are commiting suicide in higher numbers so how is it that they are not feeling so good? They are not really there to "cheer you up" but study you in an analytical way. Its a manmade philospy.

That is psychiatry not the same as below but its often the same pattern of things shown in Physicians

Like that woman with an issue of blood suffered and went broke at the hands of physicians and was never better for it

Mark 5:26 And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse,

Or Asa looking to physicians

2 Ch 16:12 And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease was exceeding great: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians.

Psychiatry is a philosphy and has not really been around that long as a medical specialty

Philosophy of Psychiatry​

The philosophy behind psychiatry explores fundamental questions about mental illness and its treatment. It encompasses three main areas:
  1. Philosophy of Science: This area examines psychiatry as a scientific discipline, using the tools of the philosophy of science to analyze its methods, theories, and concepts. Philosophers of psychiatry question whether psychiatric diagnoses reflect real biological disorders or are merely conventional constructs.
  2. Conceptual Analysis: This involves examining the concepts used in psychiatry, such as mental illness, its classification, and the ethical and experiential dimensions of mental disorders. Philosophers debate whether psychiatric diagnoses are valid and whether they should be based on observable symptoms or underlying causes.
  3. Philosophy of Mind: This area investigates the relationship between mental states and brain processes, using psychiatric phenomena to test theories in the philosophy of mind. For example, symptoms like thought insertion challenge our understanding of the ownership of thoughts.
Philosophical discussions also aim to improve patient-centered practice, develop new models of service delivery, and enhance psychiatric education. Philosophers contribute to the development of values-based practice (VBP), which integrates patient values with scientific evidence to guide clinical decisions.
Overall, the philosophy of psychiatry seeks to clarify and refine the conceptual and methodological foundations of psychiatry, ultimately aiming to improve the understanding and treatment of mental illness.
 

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They might be better off if they stopped obsessively thinking and talking about themselves so much and start sitting at the Lords feet and listening to the word of God whose words are truth and life, that they might get well. Its free too, you wouldnt need to go broke trying to pay for these overpriced, overpromoted pseudo pyschiatric sessions.
I think you hit the nail on the head with the general population and with the psychiatric profession as well. Generally Psychiatry does not address the spirit and is void of the essence of man, made in God's image. Those who do factor Christian theology have achieved much wisdom to help their patients.
Sin is something you can't ignor when studying the human soul. I think maybe that the real meaning of that word, "soul" is foreign to some psychiatrists.
I studied psychology in college: Behavioral, Humanism, Freudian ... don't recall them ever mentioning sin, the Bible, getting focus off the self or loving one another as a cure. They seem to skip over that part and try to figure it all out without God. And then the idea of demonic influence is something of a myth to them ... it's just biology and chemistry, a mental illness requiring meds and behavior modification ...formulas that explore the inner child with self realization techniques.
One of the main causes of depression is self focus. Actually one famous and wise Psychoanalyst, M. Scott Peck, who wrote, "The Road Less Traveled" in 1978, said that. He was asked a hypothetical question: "If you were so depressed to the point of contemplating suicide, what would you do"? He said, "I would go out and find someone to help, then after I finished, find someone else to help" (acts of love really).
That is the cure. There is so much junk inside us, insecurities, failures, evil thoughts, that too much focus on self can only lead to depression. Jesus had the cure long ago, " Love God and one another".
Some modern psycho babble books about the inner child, low self esteem, focus on looking within even to the point to suggest power and answers lie within, you just have to find them to achieve healing.
Therapy without ever considering the Bible for answers, seeking God through Christ makes them even more screwed up. And there is this " the force is within you" mantra that has spread. It gets absurd. Shirley McClane once shouted to her fans, "I am god". And Christ was looking down on her likely shaking His head.
We are to die to ourselves and look outward to God. Then once we have the Holy Spirit, then He communes and guides us from within our temple; but not until then.
Christians get depressed too. Self focus can still be a problem with some because they really haven't died to self, they have not yet mortified the flesh.
A depressed Christian approached my Pastor once and said, "I can't seem to get out of it, what can I do ... I pray ... but still, I'm stuck in a pit of despair? My Pastor gave him this advice: "Go and memorize the Sermon on the Mount. When you have it, come back and see me". He did that, came back weeks later and said something happened somewhere in the middle, I found peace and forgot what it was I was so depressed about!" That's another cure.
Oh and BTW, M. SCOTT Peck became a Christian twi years after he wrote that book so needless to say, he became a more balanced doctor and much more helpful before he died in 2005.
 
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Pyschiatrists have a high suicide rate. They can't even help themselves! But they sure make lots of $$$!
I saw a clip of a guy who went to their therapist appointment. Real life not a movie.

He unloads his problems and the therapist is taking notes. Then the therapist looks at the patient and in all seriousness asked, why do you think you feel this way?

How much are they being paid? If the patient knew that answer they wouldn't be on his couch.
 
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I think you hit the nail on the head with the general population and with the psychiatric profession as well. Generally Psychiatry does not address the spirit and is void of the essence of man, made in God's image. Those who do factor Christian theology have achieved much wisdom to help their patients.
Sin is something you can't ignor when studying the human soul. I think maybe that the real meaning of that word, "soul" is foreign to some psychiatrists.
I studied psychology in college: Behavioral, Humanism, Freudian ... don't recall them ever mentioning sin, the Bible, getting focus off the self or loving one another as a cure. They seem to skip over that part and try to figure it all out without God. And then the idea of demonic influence is something of a myth to them ... it's just biology and chemistry, a mental illness requiring meds and behavior modification ...formulas that explore the inner child with self realization techniques.
One of the main causes of depression is self focus. Actually one famous and wise Psychoanalyst, M. Scott Peck, who wrote, "The Road Less Traveled" in 1978, said that. He was asked a hypothetical question: "If you were so depressed to the point of contemplating suicide, what would you do"? He said, "I would go out and find someone to help, then after I finished, find someone else to help" (acts of love really).
That is the cure. There is so much junk inside us, insecurities, failures, evil thoughts, that too much focus on self can only lead to depression. Jesus had the cure long ago, " Love God and one another".
Some modern psycho babble books about the inner child, low self esteem, focus on looking within even to the point to suggest power and answers lie within, you just have to find them to achieve healing.
Therapy without ever considering the Bible for answers, seeking God through Christ makes them even more screwed up. And there is this " the force is within you" mantra that has spread. It gets absurd. Shirley McClane once shouted to her fans, "I am god". And Christ was looking down on her likely shaking His head.
We are to die to ourselves and look outward to God. Then once we have the Holy Spirit, then He communes and guides us from within out temple from; but not until then.
Christians get depressed too. Self focus can still be a problem with some because theybm really haven't died to self, they have not yet mortified the flesh.
A depressed Christian approached my Pastor once and said, "I can't seem to get out of it, what can I do ... I pray ... but still, I'm stuck in a pit of despair? My Pastor gave him this advice: "Go and memorize the Sermon on the Mount. When you have it, come back and see me". He did that, came back weeks later and said something happened somewhere in the middle, I found peace and forgot what it was I was so depressed about!" That's another cure.
Oh and BTW, M. SCOTT Peck became a Christian twi years after he wrote that book so needless to say, he became a more balanced doctor and much more helpful before he died in 2005.
That was well put, I like this, "Generally Psychiatry does not address the spirit and is void of the essence of man, made in God's image."

And " Sin is something you can't ignor when studying the human soul. I think maybe that the real meaning of that word, "soul" is foreign to some psychiatrists."

That is so true.

I knew an older christian woman who wanted to help people and went to school just to be in that field (I honestly dont even know what to make about doing that) but thats what she did and I recall her telling me a couple of stories of people who were so not right and had what she believed was an evil spirit. She said something to the effect that she was not even allowed to acknowledge the possibility of an evil spirit.

But she could probably write out a ton of expensive perscriptions out for what it was not.

I read something like there is 1 Psychiatrist per every 5000 people (rounded down)in the U.S but theres supposedly a growing shortage of them because they are mostly of an older demographic. I would never pay that much for someone to listen to me gripe about my life when I can make my friends do it for free clfh

Just kidding sml
 

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That was well put, I like this, "Generally Psychiatry does not address the spirit and is void of the essence of man, made in God's image."

And " Sin is something you can't ignor when studying the human soul. I think maybe that the real meaning of that word, "soul" is foreign to some psychiatrists."

That is so true.

I knew an older christian woman who wanted to help people and went to school just to be in that field (I honestly dont even know what to make about doing that) but thats what she did and I recall her telling me a couple of stories of people who were so not right and had what she believed was an evil spirit. She said something to the effect that she was not even allowed to acknowledge the possibility of an evil spirit.

But she could probably write out a ton of expensive perscriptions out for what it was not.

I read something like there is 1 Psychiatrist per every 5000 people (rounded down)in the U.S but theres supposedly a growing shortage of them because they are mostly of an older demographic. I would never pay that much for someone to listen to me gripe about my life when I can make my friends do it for free clfh

Just kidding sml
I think some of the happiest people are the servants, who are selfless, loving others, not thinking of themselves. I am not as happy as them though. Loving others as you love yourself is tough enough. There aren't many Mother Teresa's around.
That brings to mind another story. Towards the end of Mother Teresa's life, who totally sacrificed her life to love and care for orphan children, she was interviewed by a reporter who happened to be female. She asked her, "Who will take your place after you go"? Mother Teresa paused for a second, smiled and said, "You can"! The reporter recoiled back, felt trapped and awkward, almost repulsed at the thought. Actually, I forget exactly what she said but it was likely how any of us would respond; "I, I, .. no, no... I can't ... I have a job or I have a family, or I feel that's not my calling, bla, bla, bla". Would any of us drop everything and move to India to live in squalor just because there are millions of starving kids that need help? We don't want to be that happy I guess.
 
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I think some ofbthe happiest people are the servants, who selfless, loving others, not thinking of themselves. I am not as happy as them though. Loving others as you love yourself is tough enough. There are many Mother Teresa's around.
That brings to mind another story. Towards the end of Mother Teresa's life, who totally sacrificed her life to love and care for orphan children, she was interviewed by a reporter who happened to be female. She asked her, "Who will take your place after you go"? Mother Teresa paused for a second, smiled and said m, "You can"! The reporter coiled back, felt trapped, awkward. Actually, I forget exactly what she said but it was likely how any of us would respond; "I, I, .. no, no... I can't ... I have a job or I have a family, or I feel that's not my calling, bla, bla, bla". Would any of us drop everything and move to India and live in squalor just because there are millions of starving kids tha5 need help? We don't want to be that happy I guess.
I think if you do not love yourself, you cannot love others.
Such unloving people are very destructive.

I am not happy with M Teresa, I read she believed suffering brings people close to God, so she would not allow people to be medically treated with antibiotics etc... and actually let them suffer and die.
 

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I think if you do not love yourself, you cannot love others.
Such unloving people are very destructive.

I am not happy with M Teresa, I read she believed suffering brings people close to God, so she would not allow people to be medically treated with antibiotics etc... and actually let them suffer and die.
I get what you are saying. Some Catholics vow to live in poverty, own nothing, seek nothing for self.
I just saw a movie about Martin Luther, who became a monk and took those vows. He loved himself enough to eat, exercise, pray to God for guidance of which is asking God to love him back in a way, consider his path. Loving himself was focused on a personal mission, desire, motivation to learn and be equipped by God so he can go out and minister to others. The Word was food and he nourished himself. So it is not against loving yourself; just not in the way we lavish ourselves with material possessions, futile passtimes, entertainment, pleasures, etc.
Jesus grew up with a roof over his head; but on His mission, he lived outside, had no possessions ... nowhere to rest his head. And His disciples lived that way too. How do you think Paul lived for decades, traveling thousands of miles? Did he load up his camper with all the luxuries, stock it up with food, had continously reserve of money when it ran out withgrocery stores and restaurants along his path? No, he walked, maybe carried a bag with a few things and likely starved at times. These monks and sisters basically try to emulate their experience. Can any of us do that? Jesus told the disciples on a practice mission to bring nothing with them, to totally be faithful that God would provide just for training.
Mother Teresa did her thing, answered her calling and did not deem it necessary to involve outside assistance, which can be problematic, annoying, disruptive, frustrating, complicated. Food was welcomed I'm sure, but medicine? I don't know the details about her refusing that. She loved the kids, fed them, comforted them. Their lives were filled with hunger, pain and suffering. Maybe God told her no meds, just comfort them and I'll take them home soon. No point to try to sustain their miserable lives in poverty, just show them love before they go to their Maker. Remember death to them opens the door to eternal life in heaven, a much better place. No need for delay.
And then there is my negative opinion of BiG Pharma ... another topic.
 

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I get what you are saying. Some Catholics vow to live in poverty, own nothing, seek nothing for self.
I just saw a movie about Martin Luther, who became a monk and took those vows. He loved himself enough to eat, exercise, pray to God for guidance of which is asking God to love him back in a way, consider his path. Loving himself was focused on a personal mission, desire, motivation to learn and be equipped by God so he can go out and minister to others. The Word was food and he nourished himself. So it is not against loving yourself; just not in the way we lavish ourselves with material possessions, futile passtimes, entertainment, pleasures, etc.
Jesus grew up with a roof over his head; but on His mission, he lived outside, had no possessions ... nowhere to rest his head. And His disciples lived that way too. How do you think Paul lived for decades, traveling thousands of miles? Did he load up his camper with all the luxuries, stock it up with food, had continously reserve of money when it ran out withgrocery stores and restaurants along his path? No, he walked, maybe carried a bag with a few things and likely starved at times. These monks and sisters basically try to emulate their experience. Can any of us do that? Jesus told the disciples on a practice mission to bring nothing with them, to totally be faithful that God would provide just for training.
Mother Teresa did her thing, answered her calling and did not deem it necessary to involve outside assistance, which can be problematic, annoying, disruptive, frustrating, complicated. Food was welcomed I'm sure, but medicine? I don't know the details about her refusing that. She loved the kids, fed them, comforted them. Their lives were filled with hunger, pain and suffering. Maybe God told her no meds, just comfort them and I'll take them home soon. No point to try to sustain their miserable lives in poverty, just show them love before they go to their Maker. Remember death to them opens the door to eternal life in heaven, a much better place. No need for delay.
And then there is my negative opinion of BiG Pharma ... another topic.
Take a read here and see what I mean
It is one thing to do things to yourself, and another to do things to other people because of your sake, which is what she did. She was cruel and selfish in her aid.


Acts 10:38
how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.

She is no saint nor Christ like. Christ healed people and made them well body and soul
 

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That was well put, I like this, "Generally Psychiatry does not address the spirit and is void of the essence of man, made in God's image."

And " Sin is something you can't ignor when studying the human soul. I think maybe that the real meaning of that word, "soul" is foreign to some psychiatrists."

That is so true.

I knew an older christian woman who wanted to help people and went to school just to be in that field (I honestly dont even know what to make about doing that) but thats what she did and I recall her telling me a couple of stories of people who were so not right and had what she believed was an evil spirit. She said something to the effect that she was not even allowed to acknowledge the possibility of an evil spirit.

But she could probably write out a ton of expensive perscriptions out for what it was not.

I read something like there is 1 Psychiatrist per every 5000 people (rounded down)in the U.S but theres supposedly a growing shortage of them because they are mostly of an older demographic. I would never pay that much for someone to listen to me gripe about my life when I can make my friends do it for free clfh

Just kidding sml
It's not all just telling them your problems. I have PTSD and in 2008 I went to a Christian clinic and for 8 weeks I went through counseling every day for 8 hours a day with several psychologists and one psychiatrist.
After that I just came in every 3 months to see the psychiatrist.
It helped me.
I have worked every since
 

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It's not all just telling them your problems. I have PTSD and in 2008 I went to a Christian clinic and for 8 weeks I went through counseling every day for 8 hours a day with several psychologists and one psychiatrist.
After that I just came in every 3 months to see the psychiatrist.
It helped me.
I have worked every since

PSTD is considered a problem in itself so how is it not just about telling them your problems? Isn't PE therapy is a part of that therapy?

Prolonged Exposure Therapy (PE) is a form of cognitive-behavioral therapy designed to treat post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). It involves two main procedures: imaginal exposure, which is the repeated retelling of the trauma memory, and in vivo exposure, which is gradually confronting situations, places, or things that are reminders of the trauma or feel dangerous.

And please do not mistake my own personal stance as if I disregard anyone listening to us as utterly useless (whether you have to pay someone to do it or not). If it were utterly useless there would be no need to pray to our heavenly Father pour ourselves out even to Him at times. He has just always proven (at least to me) to have the fix my soul needs (so I will always promote Him as that way of life for a true soul fix) and not another. The benefits include, He is always there (no transportation needed to get to His location). He is always affordable (as in free) and He can bless the poorest of us (in such matters whether we are financially poor or in spirit) and there is just nothing impossible for Him. However, the scripture does show us that even Jesus did not do many mighty works in certain places because of the peoples unbelief.