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Rita

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Except for the crash mid air and all hands lost, nobody did anything wrong.
I don’t recall saying that nobody made a mistake - the issue may be with human error on either the plane or the helicopter.
 
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If ATC were not at fault, there would have been a press conference 5 minutes after the crash explaining how their directions to the respective pilots were not followed.
 

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The flight data is stating that the helicopter was advised to fly at 200ft , just before the crash it rose to 300ft , which is not the recommended height
 
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I guess time will tell.
 

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To be honest I think it’s too early to speculate, one of the investigators said earlier that it’s not unusual for helicopters to be in the area, that it is a common event. He added that both the helicopter and plane were on the normal flight paths.
Think more information will come over the coming days.
Normal flight paths intersect planes and military black hawk helicopters?? This makes no sense to me. It's an accident waiting to happen. We can't trust MSM or the government to give us the straight up truth. We may never get the truth this side of eternity. They do what they please.
 

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These craft should be taking off from two different airfields.Military and civilian.


Remember the recent domestic terror attacks?

Radical military operatives to blame. What if this was the next stage of that?

Ground assault. Now air.
 

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Yes I heard what Trump said absolutely awful - to make this political and To blame the air traffic control employee's ,before knowing the facts is stupid - and he states he has common sense !!!!
Common sense would wait for the facts before apportioning blame.
It's what he does best ....he takes every opportunity to point fingers and talk down to everyone else while exalting himself above everyone ..... of course, he's the only one who can save the world from their problems.
 
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Satanic.
TDS knows no bounds.

Pathetic. Damn the victims. Let's trash Trump.
 

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Not your targets for your contempt and hate.
Here we go again.
Someone speaks up about your friend Trump and the "hate card" comes out of the pocket and is used.
Nonsense. Trump spoke about the loss of life and after that he would not shut up and make it all political, blaming it on the former presidential administration. This stuff should stop.

And just for your information, I am not a Biden fan OR a Trump fan.
This is no time for an American president trying to gain support over the former president.
 
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TLHKAJ

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Here we go again.
Someone speaks up about your friend Trump and the "hate card" comes out of the pocket and is used.
Nonsense. Trump spoke about the loss of life and after that he would not shut up and make it all political, blaming it on the former presidential administration. This stuff should stop.

And just for your information, I am not a Biden fan OR a Trump fan.
This is no time for an American president trying to gain support over the former president.
100% truth and I fully agree.
 
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I am pretty sure it will be a fault of the Black Hawk . The Air Traffic control was in contact with Black Hawk and told them about the Jet in their area .

Air traffic control's communications with Black Hawk pilot
Much easier for a chopper to see a plane than V V.
But, yeah, it'll come out soon enough.
I used to travel a lot...
my biggest fear was being around the airport....too much traffic.
I don't know why plane tragedies are so much more felt by everyone....
 
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Much easier for a chopper to see a plane than V V.
But, yeah, it'll come out soon enough.
I used to travel a lot...
my biggest fear was being around the airport....too much traffic.
I don't know why plane tragedies are so much more felt by everyone....
Perhaps it’s because so many people suddenly lose their lives all at the same time. They we’re so close to home as well
 
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Perhaps it’s because so many people suddenly lose their lives all at the same time. They we’re so close to home as well
Maybe...not sure.
We have many illegals entering Italy and, at times, hundreds die on these boats that come from Libya.
It makes the news...everyone is sorry...
but it's a different impact.
I think the being up in the air has something to do with it...
maybe it's everyone's nightmare?

Anyway, yes, it's tragic in all cases...and in the NE weather there, hypothermia sets in pretty fast.
 

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Maybe...not sure.
We have many illegals entering Italy and, at times, hundreds die on these boats that come from Libya.
It makes the news...everyone is sorry...
but it's a different impact.
I think the being up in the air has something to do with it...
maybe it's everyone's nightmare?

Anyway, yes, it's tragic in all cases...and in the NE weather there, hypothermia sets in pretty fast.
I actually think it is a cultural alignment - we tend to feel more when it is westerners , because we are westerners.
 

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I trust this report more than what we hear from MSM or the government. He's actually doing his own digging.

 
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A black hawk helicopter with all its sophisticated guidance and radar system, that could not detect an airplane close by seems very strange.
Exactly. Did you watch the video I posted? He said he tracked down some information on the helicopter which indicated someone of importance was onboard it. Also, the flight pattern of the plane was suspect.
 
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