Woke female "Bishop" targets Trump at national cathedral prayer service

[pepper]

??? I don't know what you are referring to.

I was addressing LuxMundi in my post since she or he keeps thinking the bishop is wonderful in talking about mercy. But even the devil can put up a good front. The devil can appear as an angel of light.

I quoted you in that reply you're now inquiring about because you addressed Lux.
Lux obviously hasn't watched the video if he/she claims the bishop doesn't defend LGBTQ+ Sins, agenda.

 

[Verily]

That's not an example of something specific she said in her sermon that's not of God.

I already told you when she simply took up such pleas as to "the orange man bad/hitler/dictator" AS IF MSM's koolaid was true. Used the manipulative "THEY ARE SCARED" have mercy! AS IF he scares them when it is really THEM who are scaring the children. Calling them TRANS or GAY children for goodness sake, these people are nutso. Who at 3 years old has thought about sex let alone has decided they desire someone with the same sex organs they have (which not only havent ever seen, but very likely cant even spell). These children SHOULD FEAR those who have custody of them (and those who teach them these perversions) but not this president, this one did not shower with his daughter (that we know of) unlike Biden.

 

[Debp]

God law also doesnt advocate for being a leech

I have a Hispanic neighbor/friend. She does work hard as does her husband.

But she told me about her sister I think it was. She said her sister has five or six kids, and her sister gets everything for free! Also, during COVID, her sister didn't have to pay any rent...the State paid it.

My friend said she guesses she should have had a bunch of kids....she was joking but making a point.

 

[Debp]

I already told you when she simply took up such pleas as to "the orange man bad/hitler/dictator" AS IF MSM's koolaid was true. Used the manipulative "THEY ARE SCARED" have mercy! AS IF he scares them when it is really THEM who are scaring the children. Calling them TRANS or GAY children for goodness sake, these people are nutso. Who at 3 years old has thought about sex let alone has decided they desire someone with the same sex organs they have (which not only havent ever seen, but very likely cant even spell). These children SHOULD FEAR those who have custody of them (and those who teach them these perversions) but not this president, this one did not shower with his daughter (that we know of) unlike Biden.

@LuxMundi 's efforts would be better spent on trying to protect children from the transgender agenda. They are brainwashing the children and society to accept all of this craziness (hormones, surgeries to change sex) as normal.

As you said, no young child is thinking about sex. Adults are brainwashing innocent children. And we know what Jesus said about those that harm children....millstone around their neck and drowned.

 

[Magdala]

Paul had no problem with citizenship

Acts 21:39 But Paul said, I am a man which am a Jew of Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city: and, I beseech thee, suffer me to speak unto the people.

I'm saying that God didn't make the first humans nor does He make subsequent humans become legalized citizens on planet earth in order to live on the earth that He created for them. Humans are more strict with one another than God is with us, despite God being the one who allows us to live on this planet. We should be humble and thankful to Him, and if we truly are, then we wouldn't be so arrogant and selfish as to think it's our place to keep others out from here or there when God allows us all to live on earth in the first place.

Speaking of measures my own have expanded.

I was just reminding you that Jesus said if you judge you'll be judged in return by the same measure.

When did Jesus tell murderers and child sex traffickers to go to professionals in the U.S?

In all your study of Jesus's teachings you didn't walk away understanding that we should help those are suffering and causing suffering?

Sometimes a little less coddling and instilling a fear of God can be helpful

He who doesn’t love doesn’t know God, for God is love. 1 Jn 48
And above all things be earnest in your love among yourselves, for love covers a multitude of sins. 1 Pet. 4:8

You say that as if there was never legal immigration, or that our country helps no one.

But we can always pray for those who despitefully use us.

God law also doesnt advocate for being a leech

I acknowledge that our country has helped, I'm just saying we can do better. Another problem here in the U.S. is the mistreatment of legal citizens, such as the homeless and veterans, and the clamouring for the legalization of killing children in the womb.

I already told you when she simply took up such pleas as to "the orange man bad/hitler/dictator" AS IF MSM's koolaid was true. Used the manipulative "THEY ARE SCARED" have mercy! AS IF he scares them when it is really THEM who are scaring the children. Calling them TRANS or GAY children for goodness sake, these people are nutso. Who at 3 years old has thought about sex let alone has decided they desire someone with the same sex organs they have (which not only havent ever seen, but very likely cant even spell). These children SHOULD FEAR those who have custody of them (and those who teach them these perversions) but not this president, this one did not shower with his daughter (that we know of) unlike Biden.

I agree that it's not what God wants.

 

[Verily]

I have a Hispanic neighbor/friend. She does work hard as does her husband.

But she told me about her sister I think it was. She said her sister has five or six kids, and her sister gets everything for free! Also, during COVID, her sister didn't have to pay any rent...the State paid it.

My friend said she guesses she should have had a bunch of kids....she was joking but making a point.

I have seen so many videos on this sort of thing I wouldnt even know where to begin pointing out where to find them. I would save them over the years for my husband to see (just to show "someone") and I would have no less than 10 an evening sometimes twice that and see how these were treated over our own citizens. But thats not just happening here but in other countries too.

 

[Magdala]

They are brainwashing the children and society to accept all of this craziness (hormones, surgeries to change sex) as normal.

As you said, no young child is thinking about sex. Adults are brainwashing innocent children.

I agree, but no one ever just asked me what I thought. They just assumed I didn't.

 

[pepper]

I have seen so many videos on this sort of thing I wouldnt even know where to begin pointing out where to find them. I would save them over the years for my husband to see (just to show "someone") and I would have no less than 10 an evening sometimes twice that and see how these were treated over our own citizens. But thats not just happening here but in other countries too.

Mexico sends those that enter illegally straight to prison.

That Mexico let this happen so to give the caravans of thousands upon thousands of illegals a gateway to enter America means they violated their own immigration laws.

They're complicit in our being invaded.

As were all Central and South American lands giving them safe passage across their borders so to continue unimpeded by their own immigration laws north.

Imagine if America withdrew all support to those countries that let this happen.
Including withdrawing the tax breaks domestic companies get for outsourcing to those countries.

 

[Verily]

I'm saying that God didn't make the first humans nor does He make subsequent humans become legalized citizens on planet earth in order to live on the earth that He created for them. Humans are more strict with one another than God is with us, despite God being the one who allows us to live on this planet. We should be humble and thankful to Him, and if we truly are, then we wouldn't be so arrogant and selfish as to think it's our place to keep others out from here or there when God allows us all to live on earth in the first place.

This is your opinion, citizenship is in scripture.

I was just reminding you that Jesus said if you judge you'll be judged in return by the same measure.

You stated that when I said they looked well fed ( and some were very obese) that I was judging somehow, when any decent U.S doctor could say so much without the use of medical scale. If someones body fat index is obviously off the charts even by the sight of the eye. Thats not judging the person, thats judging the amount of body fat on someone who might be claiming "starvation".

We might benefit by using our eyes to see the obvious (that is not famine) but the evidence of feasting.

In all your study of Jesus's teachings you didn't walk away understanding that we should help those are suffering and cause suffering?

You pray for your enemies, but which coyotes which are doing evil are seeking after God while doing these things, which you are speaking of?

He who doesn’t love doesn’t know God, for God is love. 1 Jn 48
And above all things be earnest in your love among yourselves, for love covers a multitude of sins. 1 Pet. 4:8

What does that have to do with my comment

"Sometimes a little less coddling and instilling a fear of God can be helpful"

As many as Jesus loves, does he hug and coddle? No, he says,

Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. (Love)

And what do we have here about hating ones brother likewise?

Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. (Love)

And what do we have here in the same theme of multitude of sins

James 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. (Love)

I acknowledge that our country has helped, I'm just saying we can do better.

We are well over 30 trillion in debt, save it.

Another problem

Not interested

I agree that it's not what God wants.

I need a break from this tread

 

[Verily]

Mexico sends those that enter illegally straight to prison.

That Mexico let this happen so to give the caravans of thousands upon thousands of illegals a gateway to enter America means they violated their own immigration laws.

They're complicit in our being invaded.

As were all Central and South American lands giving them safe passage across their borders so to continue unimpeded by their own immigration laws north.

Imagine if America withdrew all support to those countries that let this happen.
Including withdrawing the tax breaks domestic companies get for outsourcing to those countries.

If a nation were a perfect picture of the forgiven servant (becoming the wicked servant) by casting the people from our nation into their prisons for the same thing we wont prosecute them (or fine them) for. And after they have received mercy. Ironic. They truly do exist eh?

 

[pepper]

This is your opinion, citizenship is in scripture.

You stated that when I said they looked well fed ( and some were very obese) that I was judging somehow, when any decent U.S doctor could say so much without the use of medical scale. If someones body fat index is obviously off the charts even by the sight of the eye. Thats not judging the person, thats judging the amount of body fat on someone who might be claiming "starvation".

We might benefit by using our eyes to see the obvious (that is not famine) but the evidence of feasting.



You pray for your enemies, but which coyotes which are doing evil are seeking after God while doing these things, which you are speaking of?

What does that have to do with my comment

"Sometimes a little less coddling and instilling a fear of God can be helpful"

As many as Jesus loves, does he hug and coddle? No, he says,

Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. (Love)

And what do we have here about hating ones brother likewise?

Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. (Love)

And what do we have here in the same theme of multitude of sins

James 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. (Love)



We are well over 30 trillion in debt, save it.


Not interested

I need a break from this tread

The coyotes? They're responsible for what are known as rape trees that are found on the contemporary illegals trail of tears.

 

[Magdala]

This is your opinion, citizenship is in scripture.

God didn't make the first humans nor does He make subsequent humans become legalized documented citizens on planet earth in order to live on the earth that He created for them. Humans came up with that. Humans are more strict with one another than God is with us, despite God being the one who allows us to live on this planet. We should be humble and thankful to Him, and if we truly are, then we wouldn't be so arrogant and selfish as to think it's our place to keep others out from here or there when God allows us all to live on earth in the first place.

We are well over 30 trillion in debt, save it.

If that's true, I doubt it's because we're helping the elderly, homeless, veterans, and children in the womb like we should.

You stated that when I said they looked well fed ( and some were very obese) that I was judging somehow

I said that you were making judgments based on external observations, and that Jesus said if you judge you'll be judged in return by the same measure.

You pray for your enemies, but which coyotes which are doing evil are seeking after God while doing these things, which you are speaking of?

I asked you, "In all your study of Jesus's teachings you didn't walk away understanding that we should help those are suffering and cause suffering?"

What does that have to do with my comment

"Sometimes a little less coddling and instilling a fear of God can be helpful"

These verses show that love is more important and stronger than fear:

He who doesn’t love doesn’t know God, for God is love. 1 Jn 48
And above all things be earnest in your love among yourselves, for love covers a multitude of sins. 1 Pet. 4:8

 

[Verily]

God didn't make the first humans

Yes he did

nor does He make subsequent humans become legalized documented citizens on planet earth in order to live on the earth

No, they become legal citizens of certain countries according to where they might be born or price to become a citizen of whichever country they desire to live. Even the prodical son in a country not his own during a time of famine went and joined himself to a citizen of that country. Jesus uses citizenship in his narratives.

Paul was a Roman

Acts 22:27 Then the chief captain came, and said unto him, Tell me, art thou a Roman? He said, Yea.

Acts 22:28 And the chief captain answered, With a great sum obtained I this freedom.

And Paul said, But I was free born.

that He created for them. Humans came up with that.

Humans came up with the names of the beasts of the feild and God went with it, "whatever Adam called them that was their name" and likewise does not reprove countries for their territories.

Humans are more strict with one another than God is with us, despite God being the one who allows us to live on this planet.

What does strict mean?

Deut 2:4-5 And command thou the people, saying, Ye are to pass through the coast of your brethren the children of Esau, which dwell in Seir; and they shall be afraid of you: take ye good heed unto yourselves therefore: Meddle not with them; for I will not give you of their land, no, not so much as a foot breadth; because I have given mount Seir unto Esau for a possession.

We should be humble and thankful to Him, and if we truly are, then we wouldn't be so arrogant and selfish as to think it's our place to keep others out from here or there when God allows us all to live on earth in the first place.

Deut 2:5 Meddle not with them; for I will not give you of their land, no, not so much as a foot breadth; because I have given mount Seir unto Esau for a possession.

If that's true, it's not because we're helping the elderly, homeless, veterans, and children in the womb like we should.

Then change the government and stop advocating that the government do something when the results cannot be anymore obvious than what you yourself just admited to

I said that you were making judgments based on external observations, and that Jesus said if you judge you'll be judged in return by the same measure.

I know exactly what you said, you quoted something that never applied to the situation

I asked you, "In all your study of Jesus's teachings you didn't walk away understanding that we should help those are suffering and cause suffering?"

You tell them to repent, you dont send them away into years of overpriced psuedo psychiatric care.

These verses show that love is more important and stronger than fear:

He who doesn’t love doesn’t know God, for God is love. 1 Jn 48
And above all things be earnest in your love among yourselves, for love covers a multitude of sins. 1 Pet. 4:8

Yeah but the verses I shared tells you how Jesus does this and how the same applies to ourselves also

 

[Magdala]

Yes he did

Why did you leave out the rest of the sentence and respond to it as if I was saying something else?

they become legal citizens of certain countries according to where they might be born or price to become a citizen of whichever country they desire to live.

As I said, humans came up with doing that. God didn't. God didn't create the first humans with a document that shows legalized citizenship. God allows all human to live on this planet dictating who goes where. We should be humble and thankful to Him, and if we truly are, then we wouldn't be so arrogant and selfish as to think it's our place to keep others out from here or there when God allows us all to live on earth in the first place.

Deut 2:4-5 And command thou the people, saying, Ye are to pass through the coast of your brethren the children of Esau, which dwell in Seir; and they shall be afraid of you: take ye good heed unto yourselves therefore:

Meddle not with them; for I will not give you of their land, no, not so much as a foot breadth; because I have given mount Seir unto Esau for a possession.

That doesn't negate the fact that it's not our place to dictate who gets to live when the reason any of us are on this planet at all is because God allows us to be.

I know exactly what you said, you quoted something that never applied to the situation

So, you weren't making judgments based on external observations? Is it not true that Jesus said if you judge you'll be judged in return by the same measure?

You tell them to repent, you dont send them away into years of overpriced psuedo psychiatric care.

That's not what I asked. I asked, "In all your study of Jesus's teachings you didn't walk away understanding that we should help those are suffering and cause suffering?"

Yeah but the verses I shared tells you how Jesus does this and how the same applies to ourselves also

"Love is patient and is kind. Love doesn’t envy. Love doesn’t brag, is not proud, doesn’t behave itself inappropriately, doesn’t seek its own way, is not provoked, takes no account of evil; doesn’t rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, and endures all things." 1 Cor 13:4-7

Then change the government

Did I say that I didn't want to?

 

[Verily]

Why did you leave out the rest of the sentence and respond to it as if I was saying something else?

Because you posted it twice now and I had a little fun with it (did you see my laughy face?)

As I said, humans came up with doing that. God didn't. God didn't create the first humans with a document that shows legalized citizenship. God allows all human to live on this planet dictating who goes where. We should be humble and thankful to Him, and if we truly are, then we wouldn't be so arrogant and selfish as to think it's our place to keep others out from here or there when God allows us all to live on earth in the first place.

We know, we know, we read it twice in two posts, this is the third time around

So, you weren't making judgments based on external observations?

Yes, even a doctor can SEE you are OBESE if you are by EXTERNAL OBSERVATIONS. This is something VISUALLY OBSERVABLE, no scale necessary. How difficult can this possibly be for you?

You believe Jesus would tell the doctor, thou shalt not judge what is only visually observable as obese because he said Judge not?

Thats ridiculous

Is it not true that Jesus said if you judge you'll be judged in return by the same measure?

So tell us, what will doctors do when they meet Jesus after they have judged all the patients they have seen as obese (and by their external observations) before reccomending some helpful advice, like diet and exercise?

Or do you believe the diagnosis for obesity can only be determined by bloodwork? Or some other way I am not aware of.

Do you believe the diagnosis of pink eye, or chicken pox cannot be judged as what it is by the sight of the eyes? Etc

That's not what I asked. I asked, "In all your study of Jesus's teachings you didn't walk away understanding that we should help those are suffering and cause suffering?"

Those who are suffering evil and those who are causing evil you mean.

Thats why I posted the man taken by theives Jesus showed who the good Samaritan was, the one that showed mercy to the one who was left for dead. That man didnt go looking for the theives, the apostle said, "let no man suffer as a thief". Jesus was betrayed by a thief.

Judas was a thief, and it say of him

Psalm 109:12 Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favour his fatherless children.

So you should rebuke them, as the same are listed among that which shall not inherit the Kingdom of God

1 Cr 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

"Love is patient and is kind. Love doesn’t envy. Love doesn’t brag, is not proud, doesn’t behave itself inappropriately, doesn’t seek its own way, is not provoked, takes no account of evil; doesn’t rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, and endures all things." 1 Cor 13:4-7

And Jesus is all of that in this doing

Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

And likewise we should not hate our brother

Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

And absolutely we should try to covert the sinner from the error of their way

James 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

Its all love. Its just not the oogey, googey, marshmallow fluff sort of lovey dovey sort of love

 

[Verily]

@LuxMundi have the last word, I beyond bored at this time, and I am chastening myself before the Lord does for going back and forth this long with you which amounted to absolutely nothing.

I need a change of threadery

Enjoy the conversation with whomever will take this up again, have a good evening.

 

[Magdala]

they become legal citizens of certain countries according to where they might be born or price to become a citizen of whichever country they desire to live.

As I said, humans came up with doing that. God didn't. God didn't create the first humans with a document that shows legalized citizenship. God allows all human to live on this planet. We should be humble and thankful to Him, and if we truly are, then we wouldn't be so arrogant and selfish as to think it's our place to keep others out from here or there when God allows us all to live on earth in the first place. Do you agree?

Yes

So, it wasn't wrong for me to say that you were making judgments based on external observations because you were. It also wasn't wrong of me to say that Jesus said if one judges they'll be judged in return by the same measure.

Those who are suffering evil and those who are causing evil you mean.

Thats why I posted the man taken by theives Jesus showed who the good Samaritan was, the one that showed mercy to the one who was left for dead. That man didnt go looking for the theives, the apostle said, "let no man suffer as a thief". Jesus was betrayed by a thief.

Judas was a thief, and it say of him

Psalm 109:12 Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favour his fatherless children.

So you should rebuke them, as the same are listed among that which shall not inherit the Kingdom of God

1 Cr 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may prove yourselves to be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Even the tax collectors, do they not do the same? And if you greet only your brothers and sisters, what more are you doing than others? Even the Gentiles, do they not do the same? Therefore you shall be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect."

And Jesus is all of that in this doing

Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

And likewise we should not hate our brother

Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

And absolutely we should try to covert the sinner from the error of their way

James 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

Imitate the way He loves.

 

[pepper]

She spoke at all as a fake Bishiop
(Although Pepper will disagree with me)

She's a false teacher because she defends as allowable and tolerable by the church that what God condemns as Sin.

Her gender has nothing against her. There are false male bishops and preachers too.

 

[Verily]

She's a false teacher because she defends as allowable and tolerable by the church that what God condemns as Sin.

Her gender has nothing against her. There are false male bishops and preachers too.

Don't make me come back here

 

[amigo de christo]

No, because obviously by "I mean" I'm saying by what Jesus means. So, do you know what He means to be charitable and merciful?

He who seeks to appease and to please man is no servant of Christ .
For if i were to please man i would NOT be the servant of Christ .
Wouldnt you agree we are not to hate our neighbor . Wouldnt you agree that if one hates his brother he is a murderer .
So lets agree with what GOD himself has said .
YE shall not hate your neighbor in your heart you shall in any way correct him and NOT allow sin upon him .
Todays man pleasing tatics work only death and hate unto its neighbor .
Time for the churches to abandon the seeker friendly concepts of man
And to simply speak Truth and correct all error within that church .
In case you may not realize , these men pleasers do not love the people , they dont care about you or me .
This was done by men . Men whose desire was to keep the income coming in and thus
came up with a recipe to gain numbers . TO do so it must always change and adapt to society .
My advice is , rather than we use a few scrips , WHICH THEY TOOK OUT OF TEXT , that we LEARN the bible for ourselves .