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You said repentance means stopping the sin. Have you repented
Hebrews 10:26-27,
- if we deliberately go on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth no further sacrifice remains but only a fearful expectation of judgement and of raging fire that will consume all adversaries.
 

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Now answer my question,
Did the son repent by going to do the work in the vineyard or could he have repented by not working in the vineyard?
 
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Hebrews 10:26-27,
- if we deliberately go on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth no further sacrifice remains but only a fearful expectation of judgement and of raging fire that will consume all adversaries.
When it says, "no more sacrifice", what is the exact meaning of those words? To what does this refer?

Much love!
 

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When it says, "no more sacrifice", what is the exact meaning of those words? To what does this refer?

Much love!
I'm not getting into a exegesis of Hebrews 10:26-27 with you.

The only point I am making is the Bible is clear we are not to go on sinning.
Can we agree that is what Hebrews 10:26-27 is condemning?
 
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I'm not getting into a exegesis of Hebrews 10:26-27 with you.

The only point I am making is the Bible is clear we are not to go on sinning.
Can we agree that is what Hebrews 10:26-27 is condemning?
You forget context here @Titus

Hebrews 10:19-25:

The preceding verses encourage believers to draw near to God with full assurance of faith, hold fast their confession, and spur one another to love and good works. This section emphasizes the believer's access to God through the once-for-all sacrifice of Christ.
Hebrews 10:26-31:

This passage serves as a warning against apostasy—deliberately turning away from the faith after receiving the "knowledge of the truth." It is not addressing isolated acts of sin but a persistent, conscious rejection of Christ and His sacrifice.

Broader Epistolary Context:

The author of Hebrews is writing to Jewish Christians who may be tempted to abandon their faith in Christ and return to the Mosaic sacrificial system due to persecution or societal pressure.

The key argument throughout the epistle is the supremacy of Christ's once-for-all sacrifice compared to the repeated sacrifices under the Old Covenant (Hebrews 9:11-14; 10:1-18).

Key Terms and Meaning:
"Willfully sin" (Ἑκουσίως ἁμαρτανόντων):

The Greek term ἑκουσίως (hekousiōs) implies deliberate, intentional sin. This is not about unintentional or momentary sin but a persistent and willful rejection of Christ.


In the Old Testament (e.g., Numbers 15:30-31), "willful sin" referred to high-handed rebellion against God, for which there was no atonement under the law.

"After receiving the knowledge of the truth" (μετὰ τὸ λαβεῖν τὴν ἐπίγνωσιν τῆς ἀληθείας):

ἐπίγνωσις (epignōsis) signifies a full, experiential knowledge of the truth, indicating that the warning is directed toward those who have genuinely encountered the gospel.

"No more sacrifice for sins" (οὐκέτι περὶ ἁμαρτιῶν ἀπολείπεται θυσία):

This does not imply that Christ’s sacrifice is insufficient. Rather, if one rejects Christ’s sacrifice, there is no alternative or additional sacrifice available for forgiveness.

Theological Implications:
Apostasy as Rejection of Christ:

The sin in question is not ordinary backsliding but a decisive and enduring rejection of Christ and His redemptive work.

Such apostasy places the individual outside the scope of God’s covenantal forgiveness because it rejects the only means of salvation.

Comparison to Old Covenant:

Under the Mosaic Law, deliberate rebellion led to exclusion from the covenant community. Similarly, rejecting Christ-the fulfillment of the Law-leaves no sacrifice to atone for sin, as His is the only sufficient sacrifice.

Encouragement to Persevere:

While this warning is severe, it serves to urge believers to hold fast to their faith and not be swayed by external pressures or internal doubts.

Audience:
Immediate Audience:

Jewish Christians facing pressure to abandon their faith in Christ and return to the Levitical sacrificial system.

Broader Application:

All believers are warned against hardening their hearts to the gospel, neglecting Christ’s sacrifice, and turning away from God’s truth.

Related Scriptures:
Numbers 15:30-31:

"But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously...the same reproacheth the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people."

This Old Testament concept of willful sin informs the warning in Hebrews.
Hebrews 6:4-6:

Describes those who "have tasted the heavenly gift" and then fall away, making it impossible to renew them to repentance.
John 14:6:

"I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." Rejecting Christ leaves no other means of salvation.
1 John 1:9:

Offers reassurance that confession and repentance are met with God’s forgiveness, emphasizing that Hebrews 10:26 is not about ordinary sin but deliberate apostasy.
The passage is a solemn reminder to remain steadfast in faith, recognizing the sufficiency and exclusivity of Christ’s sacrifice for sin.

There remaineth no more sacrifice for sins (οὐκέτι περὶ ἁμαρτιῶν ἀπολείπεται θυσία)
Of course not. For the Levitical sacrifices are abolished. It is Christ's sacrifice or none.

J.
 
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Now answer my question,
Did the son repent by going to do the work in the vineyard or could he have repented by not working in the vineyard?
I'm guessing that you are thinking your post above this is somehow an answer? If you don't step up I'm not going to continue.

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You forget context here @Titus

Hebrews 10:19-25:
No I did not.
I wasn't trying to do study on Hebrews 10:19-25.
I was only pointing out that God does not approve of continuance practicing sin.
Any sin practiced WILLFULLY which it absolutely condemns.
 
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You forget context here @Titus

Hebrews 10:19-25:

The preceding verses encourage believers to draw near to God with full assurance of faith, hold fast their confession, and spur one another to love and good works. This section emphasizes the believer's access to God through the once-for-all sacrifice of Christ.
Hebrews 10:26-31:

This passage serves as a warning against apostasy—deliberately turning away from the faith after receiving the "knowledge of the truth." It is not addressing isolated acts of sin but a persistent, conscious rejection of Christ and His sacrifice.

Broader Epistolary Context:

The author of Hebrews is writing to Jewish Christians who may be tempted to abandon their faith in Christ and return to the Mosaic sacrificial system due to persecution or societal pressure.

The key argument throughout the epistle is the supremacy of Christ's once-for-all sacrifice compared to the repeated sacrifices under the Old Covenant (Hebrews 9:11-14; 10:1-18).

Key Terms and Meaning:
"Willfully sin" (Ἑκουσίως ἁμαρτανόντων):

The Greek term ἑκουσίως (hekousiōs) implies deliberate, intentional sin. This is not about unintentional or momentary sin but a persistent and willful rejection of Christ.


In the Old Testament (e.g., Numbers 15:30-31), "willful sin" referred to high-handed rebellion against God, for which there was no atonement under the law.

"After receiving the knowledge of the truth" (μετὰ τὸ λαβεῖν τὴν ἐπίγνωσιν τῆς ἀληθείας):

ἐπίγνωσις (epignōsis) signifies a full, experiential knowledge of the truth, indicating that the warning is directed toward those who have genuinely encountered the gospel.

"No more sacrifice for sins" (οὐκέτι περὶ ἁμαρτιῶν ἀπολείπεται θυσία):

This does not imply that Christ’s sacrifice is insufficient. Rather, if one rejects Christ’s sacrifice, there is no alternative or additional sacrifice available for forgiveness.

Theological Implications:
Apostasy as Rejection of Christ:

The sin in question is not ordinary backsliding but a decisive and enduring rejection of Christ and His redemptive work.

Such apostasy places the individual outside the scope of God’s covenantal forgiveness because it rejects the only means of salvation.

Comparison to Old Covenant:

Under the Mosaic Law, deliberate rebellion led to exclusion from the covenant community. Similarly, rejecting Christ-the fulfillment of the Law-leaves no sacrifice to atone for sin, as His is the only sufficient sacrifice.

Encouragement to Persevere:

While this warning is severe, it serves to urge believers to hold fast to their faith and not be swayed by external pressures or internal doubts.

Audience:
Immediate Audience:

Jewish Christians facing pressure to abandon their faith in Christ and return to the Levitical sacrificial system.

Broader Application:

All believers are warned against hardening their hearts to the gospel, neglecting Christ’s sacrifice, and turning away from God’s truth.

Related Scriptures:
Numbers 15:30-31:

"But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously...the same reproacheth the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people."

This Old Testament concept of willful sin informs the warning in Hebrews.
Hebrews 6:4-6:

Describes those who "have tasted the heavenly gift" and then fall away, making it impossible to renew them to repentance.
John 14:6:

"I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." Rejecting Christ leaves no other means of salvation.
1 John 1:9:

Offers reassurance that confession and repentance are met with God’s forgiveness, emphasizing that Hebrews 10:26 is not about ordinary sin but deliberate apostasy.
The passage is a solemn reminder to remain steadfast in faith, recognizing the sufficiency and exclusivity of Christ’s sacrifice for sin.

There remaineth no more sacrifice for sins (οὐκέτι περὶ ἁμαρτιῶν ἀπολείπεται θυσία)
Of course not. For the Levitical sacrifices are abolished. It is Christ's sacrifice or none.

J.
Does Hebrews 10:19-26 allow for willfull sin in CONTEXT?
 
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This passage serves as a warning against apostasy—deliberately turning away from the faith after receiving the "knowledge of the truth." It is not addressing isolated acts of sin but a persistent, conscious rejection of Christ and His sacrifice.
Hebrews 10:26
- if we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth no sacrifice for sins is left

Does the context show that willfull sin is condemned?
It does, therefore my use of the verse is not taken out of context.
 
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I'm not getting into a exegesis of Hebrews 10:26-27 with you.

The only point I am making is the Bible is clear we are not to go on sinning.
Can we agree that is what Hebrews 10:26-27 is condemning?

You forget context here @Titus

Hebrews 10:19-25:

The preceding verses encourage believers to draw near to God with full assurance of faith, hold fast their confession, and spur one another to love and good works. This section emphasizes the believer's access to God through the once-for-all sacrifice of Christ.
Hebrews 10:26-31:

This passage serves as a warning against apostasy—deliberately turning away from the faith after receiving the "knowledge of the truth." It is not addressing isolated acts of sin but a persistent, conscious rejection of Christ and His sacrifice
How is using a verse that clearly condemns willfull sin which is the purpose for why I was using the verse out of context?
Hebrews 10:26,
- for if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of truth no longer remains a sacrifice for sins

How am I not stating what the passage says about willful sin Johan!?
Does the passage condemn willfull sin or am I taking that out of context?
 
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How is using a verse that clearly condemns willfull sin which is the purpose for why I was using the verse out of context?
Hebrews 10:26,
- for if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of truth no longer remains a sacrifice for sins

How am I not stating what the passage says about willful sin Johan!?
Does the passage condemn willfull sin or am I taking that out of context?
Adieu.

J.
 
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Hebrews 10:26
- if we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth no sacrifice for sins is left

Does the context show that willfull sin is condemned?
The theme of the whole book of Hebrews is a warning for those who would abandon Christ, and in particular to go back to Judaism. (Didn't anybody else get taught to look for recurring themes when they read something?) And the immediate context for that particular quote: The author has just shown in chapters 8-10 that Christ superseded all of the Levitical sacrifices. If you abandon Christ, and you sin (and you will), you don't have any sacrifices for your sin. So, don't fall away from Christ.

THAT'S the context.
 

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This passage serves as a warning against apostasy—deliberately turning away from the faith after receiving the "knowledge of the truth." It is not addressing isolated acts of sin but a persistent, conscious rejection of Christ and His sacrifice.
ALL sin that is willfull in Gods new testament gospel is condemned by anyone, alien sinner or the born again.

So isolated acts of sin that are willful dont apply to Hebrews 10:26?
btw, I never said anything about isolated acts or apostasy which had nothing to do with my discussion with Mark which is why I did not want to engage in a discussion on the subject matter of Hebrews 10:26.
Hebrews 10:26 can be used to refute any person who practices willful sin as that condemnation is not just for apostate christians but for everyone in the world. It's a universal law that applies to everyone.
 

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All sin is willful. "Gosh, I don't know how I ended up in bed with that woman. It just happened."
No, there are sins of ignorance.
Plenty of people in the world that dont know fornication is sin in the new testament.
Look at the savages in the Amazon. They have no understanding of Gods new testament law.