Bible policing? Good or bad?

[MatthewG]

Do people feel obligated to be on duty as a bible police male or female officer?

Making sure that everyone falls in line with ever doctrine which matches up with them in order to establish some sort of authority?

Is there a good or bad connotation when this method is used?

God told me this so, blah blah blah…
Or it’s in the Bible so you have to believe me, over it’s wholistic take?

Oh me and my church we don’t believe that way, so you aren’t in the right to believe that way and you must be corrected otherwise you are not really part of the fold, you’re outside of it?

Where do people get their authority to go around policing other people? Is it in cause of some holy movement they must establish and if anyone is wrong on it they must be forced fed what so and so believe off some commentaries that has been read or whatever?


Where does one draw the line when it comes to the so called bible police?


Just thought I would make this thread if anyone is interested in adding something to it that is meaningful.


I understand some people don’t desire to take the time to read, or understand either and that is okay too.

 

[MatthewG]

Isn’t this the type of thing that brought forth segregation when Jim Crow laws were instated back in the old days.

I get a person who reads the Bible and rejects the death, burial, and resurrection is no way shape or form a Christian.

But what about those whom do? Just cause they don’t believe all the exact same things you do, how does that make them not a Christian?

That’s what I don’t get. It has to be something to do with the flesh itself and nothing of the spirit.

 

[lforrest]

Does this sound passive to you?

2 Cor 10:5 "We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ."

The word of God is our weapon of war. All should learn how to use it. The enemy does not respect boundaries, not even our children are safe. Consider the transgender movement and how it spits in the face of the doctrine about the image of God. As if we should be satisfied to be animals driven by base desires.

 

[MatthewG]

That sounds like Bible policing to me, Forrest.

I don’t have any transgender friends or anything. Human beings are human beings.

What are we to do with them, what about child molesters, or people who murder?

While I believe child molesting is wrong and murdering is wrong, and I don’t get the whole transgender but people do it.

Should we just put these people on an island and nuke them? Some people would love this idea personally.

Despite the setbacks of humans, while we shouldn’t love their crimes aren’t we suppose to have some type of heart for people just in general?

Or slice and dice them with the knives of Gods justices?

He going to serve his justice on the day we die and are judged?

 

[lforrest]

That sounds like Bible policing to me, Forrest.

I don’t have any transgender friends or anything. Human beings are human beings.

What are we to do with them, what about child molesters, or people who murder?

While I believe child molesting is wrong and murdering is wrong, and I don’t get the whole transgender but people do it.

Should we just put these people on an island and nuke them? Some people would love this idea personally.

Despite the setbacks of humans, while we shouldn’t love their crimes aren’t we suppose to have some type of heart for people just in general?

Or slice and dice them with the knives of Gods justices?

He going to serve his justice on the day we die and are judged?

What we shouldn't do is give transgender advocates, or child molesters a platform to teach from.

There is an expectation that there is a world outside of church. God willing it will adopt laws in keeping with biblical morality.

My heart for the people is that everyone would be better off knowing Jesus. I would not force others even if I had the power to, out of respect for God's decision not to force people to follow him with his own power.

 

[MatthewG]

So, is Bible policing good or bad?

That’s the question. I’m not worried about what the people who wanna murder people, unless I hear about it; then I can make a police call. Or worried about the transgendered… or the child molester unless I hear about it I can report it to the police.

Everyone may be better of believing Jesus, sure. I would say he is the only one that changed my life, for the better.

However none of these things are new, they been around since the day Jesus was born and before.

What many would like to see is probably a world reformation, but that has been done spiritually and now up to people to either look to the tree of life (Jesus the spiritual way) or the tree of knowledge and good and evil (the fleshly way.)

 

[MatthewG]

A transgender person, can’t have a heart for God. And neither can the Child molester is that what you are suggesting @lforrest. I thought Jesus paid for all sin, and taken care of these things people fall short in. I’m not saying we should condone it; and in the world we typically don’t, people have to register once they are a child predator, and a murderer gets life in prison.


Many people absolutely hate, them. When Yahavah suggest we are to love them… at least I thought that was the case. Not their crimes but their soul, and perhaps feed them things concerning God.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

There is a lot of well established false doctrines out there…

A lot of arguments over false doctrines…

Many false teachers….

The odds are stacked against anyone simply quoting the Bible…

People like complicated nonsensical teachings rather than plain ole Bible reading…

Too many self appointed original language “experts” who think lexicons give them some special advantage…

It’s a mess.

I don’t even bother coming in here to get tarred and feathered anymore…

 

[MatthewG]

Been awhile Michiah. Good to see ya, and makes a lot of sense.

 

[Verily]

Does this sound passive to you?

2 Cor 10:5 "We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ."

Beautiful!

 

[MatthewG]

Remember Adam and Eve in the Garden?

They were given the ability to choose. It’s not any different today.

Just as it is to love your neighbor as yourself abiding in Christ.

Some would say you are suppose to hate them, be unforgiving of them, ridicule and insult them for their imperfections.

I don’t understand that. Then you have those who “feel” the need to do something for God, as though God hasn’t already done something for humanity.

There are just many people out there who have to make a choice and the great sacrificial choice is while you gotta make some calls to the police sometimes and make report…

Even after the pain, the hurt and the anger…

Forgive. Let go, and let people choose for themselves.

I’m not saying we can’t help people in their lives but in the end they will need to go to Yahavah himself, in the face of this world that can be so hard to live in, with such a focus on the self.

That is at least my opinion.

 

[CC7799]

Psalms chapter 82:2. How long will ye judge unjustly and accept the persons of the wicked ? 82:4. Deliver the poor and needy, rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
Ephesians chapter 5:9. For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth.
5:11. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
Body of Christ may have to rock the boat at times. Its exposing false brethren. It's non believers pretending to be Christian people. They have extensive knowledge of God's word and are dangerous. 2 Corinthians 11:13. False apostle s. Fake Christian people.

By holy Spirit, we spiritually discern between good fruit and bad fruit.
Kindunos in Greek means - extremely dangerous. False brethren.
Methodeia in Greek means - stealth, planned attack.
Katadunasteuo in Greek means+ bully, devil.
Kathairo in Greek means - demonic Spirit. Unclean Spirit.
Chrisma in Greek means - holy Spirit.
Ephesians chapter 2:2. Children of disobedience/ children of the devil. Reprobates/false brethren serve Satan. They have unclean Spirit. They infiltrate Body of Christ and forums. To contaminate and try to ruin the reputation of servants of God.

We edify body of Christ. And we unfortunately, have a expose fruits of darkness. Psalms chapter 1. Blessed is the man that walks not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of the scornful.
1:3. And he shall be like tree planted by the river of water, that brings forth his fruit in his season, his leaf also shall not whither, and what do ever he does prosper.

1:4. The ungodly are not so, but are like the chaff which the wind drives away.
Poison pills of false teachers lead to Satan's camp. We don't want satans sedative. God's counsel leads to eternal life. Satans counsel leads to destruction. 2 kings 10:23. King jehu cleaned house of baal worshipers. God instructed jehu to clean house.

Its not popular standing for Jesus. And rocking the boat. Im not going to debate or argue. Agree or disagree, I moved on.

 

[MatthewG]

Thank you for sharing, stream.

The question I pose, is just simply is Bible policing good or bad.

There are some people who use the Bible for gain, perhaps they start a church and they gather followers under the guise of being about Jesus, but in reality they are just using it as a way to gain money.

That is pretty bad, isn’t it? With the emotional lighting, the music, the coffee, and what not. That is pure manipulation. Which is evil.

I do agree about edifying others in continuing to have faith and seek after God, but not by means of manipulating. When it comes down to what people may propose to believe, we can exchange if we have differences but in the end I believe we should at least continue to move forward and move on as you purpose.

There are people out there who will tell others God is made at them just because they made a mistake. That too, is manipulation, and evil.

There are certain circumstances I can see where Bible policing can be a bad thing.

“Test all things, and hold on to what is good.” Isn’t that how that one scripture puts it.

 

[pepper]

Do people feel obligated to be on duty as a bible police male or female officer?

Making sure that everyone falls in line with ever doctrine which matches up with them in order to establish some sort of authority?

Is there a good or bad connotation when this method is used?

God told me this so, blah blah blah…
Or it’s in the Bible so you have to believe me, over it’s wholistic take?

Oh me and my church we don’t believe that way, so you aren’t in the right to believe that way and you must be corrected otherwise you are not really part of the fold, you’re outside of it?

Where do people get their authority to go around policing other people? Is it in cause of some holy movement they must establish and if anyone is wrong on it they must be forced fed what so and so believe off some commentaries that has been read or whatever?


Where does one draw the line when it comes to the so called bible police?


Just thought I would make this thread if anyone is interested in adding something to it that is meaningful.


I understand some people don’t desire to take the time to read, or understand either and that is okay too.

Do you police?

 

[MatthewG]

I just state my opinions. The only theology I don’t really like or agree with is Christian Universalism and don’t see how people believe in it. I don’t agree with the whole trinity aspect people have; but penultimately I allow people to believe how they are going to. It’s ultimately between them and Yahavah, whom will judge the hearts of mankind.

 

[MatthewG]

Here lately I been making some YouTube videos on some subjects I been making in the Bible study which is fun to do. People don’t have to believe or accept anything said as truth. They should be encouraged to seek for themselves.

 

[pepper]

I just state my opinions. The only theology I don’t really like or agree with is Christian Universalism and don’t see how people believe in it. I don’t agree with the whole trinity aspect people have; but penultimately I allow people to believe how they are going to. It’s ultimately between them and Yahavah, whom will judge the hearts of mankind.

Maybe then what you define as policing is actually opinion.

 

[MatthewG]

I don’t think so.

 

[MatthewG]

I think it’s good to say something when the Spirit moves a person to do so, sometimes the Spirit moves a person just to be silent.

However some of the things I mentioned in post 13 remain true. Perhaps someone brings something up, and the best encouragement a person can give is to look and see what they can find in the Bible and see for themselves.

What is know is a person can’t be a Christian without believing the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus.There are some who say they are Christian but they don’t believe in the resurrection, that is just a certain thing founded within the context of the Bible.

Then you also have people who are only in it for their own personal gain. Anyone can use the Bible text to manipulate people. That is easy to do, they can even play on people emotions, and that is a manipulative thing to do.

If the Holy Spirit within a person is there, I believe people will allow people to have the choice to make themselves in the end, because all I know is I can’t change a persons mind, no matter how hard I personally try.

Only Yahavah, by his spirit is it possible and a good help in that change is going to see what the Bible says, and see what the things of God are and what his will is, and has been, compared to man.