THE APOSTLES DID NOT ALL PREACH THE SAME GOSPEL

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The eunuch was not in our dispensation...he had to only believe that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of God as did Israel
That's NOT what the story says at all. He was preached Christ Jesus, he believed and verbally confessed his belief, he asked about baptism since they were near a body of water, so, one can only conclude that part of the gospel Philip preached included the subject of baptism and it's absolute need, he was then baptized. And yes, contrary to your erroneous response, he was part of the NT dispensation, as are we since was after the death of Christ.
 
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Israel was 1st to be brought into the fold, followed by the Gentiles. There are not two sets of standards and requirements
Peter and the twelve preached the gospel of the kingdom......this is the kingdom on earth in which Christ will reign and the believing Jews would reign with Christ as kings and priests....they were water baptized for the remission of sins according to the first covenant laws to be cleansed for the priesthood..
The Gentiles werent offered the kingdom but they could by believing enter into the kingdom as well but werent promised to reign as kings and priests
This is the gospel you are promoting....the kingdom is not being offered today
 

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Peter and the twelve preached the gospel of the kingdom......this is the kingdom on earth in which Christ will reign and the believing Jews would reign with Christ as kings and priests....they were water baptized for the remission of sins according to the first covenant laws to be cleansed for the priesthood..
The Gentiles werent offered the kingdom but they could by believing enter into the kingdom as well but werent promised to reign as kings and priests
This is the gospel you are promoting....the kingdom is not being offered today
And yet it is stated TWICE in Acts Paul preached the kingdom.

SMH
 

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If you are saying that to be part of the Lord's body .....which I assume you mean to be the body of Christ the church today....then we arent required to be obedient to water baptism according to Paul
Paul did baptize.
Why did he do that?
Why did the Holy Spirit not show us water baptism is incorrect?
Are you saying anyone saved outside your special formula is going to hell?
 

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By that logic, we would have to believe that since Paul baptized believers , Paul also had a baptism bogey man in his doctrine
 

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Would it be right for me to say that the gospel you believe is found in the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John?
They preached only to believe on Jesus that He was Christ, the Son of God (John 20:31)
That also is the setting of Paul's conversion.

So Paul was saved prior to Pauline doctrine?

How do you wiggle out of Paul's conversion?

Same with the jailer.
No "doctrine of paul"
Believe and you will be saved? Huh?
Did the Jailer become born again incorrectly? What is the remedy?
Redo Paul's conversion?
Did paul preach he himself had to redo his conversion.?
 

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one can only conclude that part of the gospel Philip preached included the subject of baptism and it's absolute need,
Baptism is not part of Paul's gospel for us in this dispensation of grace
 

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I kinda figured you could not correctly address the issue.
Here is your attempt at a denial of Paul baptizing believers.
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"Paul was not sent as John the Baptist to baptize, but to preach the gospel. Baptism is not part of the gospel of Paul. If baptism was needed for any purpose or commanded, it cannot be found in the epistles of Paul."

You danced all around the FACT that Paul did water baptize.

Even suggesting that ANY water baptism of believers is compared to JTB baptism outside of redemption.

Wow.
 

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Do you reject Paul's ordenences?
Do the women of your church all wear head coverings?
This is a difficult passage but I would say this verse applies
[1Co 11:15 KJV] 15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for [her] hair is given her for a covering.
 

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Baptism is not part of Paul's gospel for us in this dispensation of grace
This is so false.
Why do you make crooked the Bibles path?????
HELLO????
WE KNOW FOR A FACT, Paul baptized believers.

Now let's see you actually answer.
Why did he water baptize????
No fancy dance
No deflection
No side shows.

Address Why Paul water baptized believers
 

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Peter and the twelve preached the gospel of the kingdom......this is the kingdom on earth in which Christ will reign and the believing Jews would reign with Christ as kings and priests....they were water baptized for the remission of sins according to the first covenant laws to be cleansed for the priesthood..
The Gentiles werent offered the kingdom but they could by believing enter into the kingdom as well but werent promised to reign as kings and priests
This is the gospel you are promoting....the kingdom is not being offered today
The kingdom is the church
 

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This is a difficult passage but I would say this verse applies
[1Co 11:15 KJV] 15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for [her] hair is given her for a covering.
Do you ever stand up and answer anything????
I asked you if the women of your church obey Paul's ordinances.

Now remember...Paul speaks in the same deity as does Jesus according to you.
Are the women defying Jesus himself?
 

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So Paul was saved prior to Pauline doctrine?
[Act 9:20 KJV] 20 And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

Paul was saved by grace
Paul preached Christ as Son of God after conversion
He would receive further revelations about the cross over time
 

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Same with the jailer.
No "doctrine of paul"
Believe and you will be saved? Huh?
[Act 16:31-32 KJV] 31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. 32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

They spoke more than that v32
 

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This is so false.
Why do you make crooked the Bibles path?????
HELLO????
WE KNOW FOR A FACT, Paul baptized believers.

Now let's see you actually answer.
Why did he water baptize????
No fancy dance
No deflection
No side shows.

Address Why Paul water baptized believers
I gave you a link to my post on this website that answers as best I can....scripture does not say why....here is link again

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WHY DID PAUL BAPTIZE?
 

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The kingdom is the church
The kingdom of God includes heaven and earth....the church the body of Christ will be in heavenly places
The earthly kingdom is what was promised Israel and that is what was preached by Jesus and the twelve
 

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[Act 9:20 KJV] 20 And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

Paul was saved by grace
Paul preached Christ as Son of God after conversion
He would receive further revelations about the cross over time
As is Peter and every believer.
Paul was NOT saved under ANY PAULINE DOCTRINE.
ZERO.
It was an encounter with Jesus.
Saved with zero doctrine needed.
 
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