the three arch villains of the end times

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Douggg

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There will be three arch villains of the ends times.

Two are humans. The other is Satan.

Revelation 16:13
out of the mouth of the dragon - Satan
out of the mouth of the beast (king)
out of the mouth of the false prophet

The two human arch villains of the end times will be...

1. the Revelation 13:11, beast out of the earth - the false prophet.

2. the Revelation 13:3 mortally wounded, but healed head - the beast-king. Further detailed as....

a. first, as the little horn
b. then, as the little horn who becomes the prince that shall come
c. then, as the little horn who becomes the Antichrist
d. then, as the little horn who becomes the revealed man of sin
e. then, as the little horn who becomes the beast-king
 
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At Jesus's return...

The beast-king and the false prophet, both cast alive into the lake of fire, eternal. Revelation 19:20.

Satan, cast into the bottomless pit prison for 1000 years. Then released for a short time. Then Satan too, cast into the lake of fire, eternal. Revelation 20:10.
 

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The First Beast
Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Rev 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
Rev 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
The Second Beast
Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

How is it you count TWELVE humans here in Rev but only 11 humans here in Daniel:


Dan 7:19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;
Dan 7:20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
Dan 7:21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
 

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How is it you count TWELVE humans here in Rev but only 11 humans here in Daniel:
The false prophet is not in Daniel 7. The false prophet does not come out the EU, the fourth kingdom the Roman Empire manifested in the end times.

The false prophet comes out of the earth. The earth representing Israel. The sea representing the nations.
 

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Revelation 16:13
out of the mouth of the dragon - Satan
out of the mouth of the beast (king)
out of the mouth of the false prophet
Three frogs are three unclean spirits.

The thirst for power - from the mouth of the dragon (the devil)
The thirst for money - from the mouth of the beast (civilization)
The thirst for glory - from the mouth of the false prophet (false Jesus in religion)

These three lusts are driving the "kings of the earth," the leaders of the denominations, to Armageddon - the battle for earthly prosperity. In such a battle the shame of carnal Christians is revealed.

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Satan, cast into the bottomless pit prison for 1000 years. Then released for a short time. Then Satan too, cast into the lake of fire, eternal. Revelation 20:10.
"False"

Jesus returns in fire and final judgement dissolving this earth by fire, the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, is revealed at the return of Jesus (The End)

There wont be a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as you have been shown several times, when Jesus returns its "Fire Time" (The End) as seen below

Douggg you're not going to do away with the Lord's fire judgement at his return seen below, there won't be a Millennial Kingdom on this earth following the Lord's second coming, you can continue to repeat your false 1,000 year kingdom on this earth a million times, it doesn't exist in scripture

Luke 17:29-30KJ:
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.


(The Day Of The Lord) The End

2 Peter 3:10KJV
 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

(The Day Of The Lord) The End

Zechariah 14:1 & 12KJV
1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
 
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Luke 17:29-30KJ:
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
I hope I can explain the context of those verses well enough to be understood. It is not talking the earth being destroyed by fire. What Jesus was taking about is the unexpected beginning of great tribulation that will be going on when He returns.

So, to begin my explanation, read a few verses down - verse 32, remember Lot's wife. She looked back toward Sodom, thinking of her former life, as she and Lot were fleeing. ....keep reading all the way to the end at verse 37.

Then Jesus begins talking about the one taken, one left. He was not speaking about the taken in rapture in those verses, but when the false prophet has the statue image made of the beast-king and placed on the temple mount. The great tribulation beginning at that point.

Then the false prophet will round up citizens throughout Jerusalem and vicinity (one taken, one left), and brings them before the statue image, and told to worship it. Anyone refusing will be killed. That's in Revelation 13:15.

So, at the end of Luke 17, Jesus says...

Luke 17:
32 Remember Lot's wife.

33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

i.e they will be killed. killed for not worshiping the statue image of the beast-king.


To avoid being caught in that situation, in Matthew 24:15-21, Jesus said that when them in Judaea see the abomination of desolation (the statue image) standing the the holy place (the temple mount) flee out of town to the mountains, don't delay, don't think about what is being leaving behind like lot's wife. Just get out of town and into the mountains.
 
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I hope I can explain the context of those verses well enough to be understood. It is not talking the earth being destroyed by fire. What Jesus was taking about is the unexpected beginning of great tribulation that will be going on when He returns.
"Your Claim Is False"

Jesus was talking about literal fire and brimstone that will destroy "All" the wicked at his (Revealing/Return) 100% future Literal

Douggg when scripture conflicts with your graphs and charts you move towards a "Symbolic Change" to remove your obstacle, a scary and dangerous tactic in dealing with God's words of truth below "Beware"!

Jesus returns in fire and final judgement dissolving this earth by fire, the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, is revealed at the return of Jesus (The End)

There wont be a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as you have been shown several times, when Jesus returns its "Fire Time" (The End) as seen below

Douggg you're not going to do away with the Lord's literal fire judgement at his return seen below with Your False "Symbolic Allegory" that its the great tribulation and not literal fire seen

Douggg there won't be a Millennial Kingdom on this earth following the Lord's second coming, you can continue to repeat your false 1,000 year kingdom on this earth a million times, it doesn't exist in scripture

Luke 17:29-30KJ:
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.


(The Day Of The Lord) The End

2 Peter 3:10KJV
 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

(The Day Of The Lord) The End

Zechariah 14:1 & 12KJV
1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
 
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ewq1938

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The false prophet is not in Daniel 7.


Everyone already knows that. If there were these supposed two figures in the end times, Daniel would have spoke of them but he doesn't. He speaks of a ten horned beast kingdom, and one leader of it. John shows the same in Rev with a ten horned empire and one leader of it. There is no other person you keep claiming.


The false prophet does not come out the EU, the fourth kingdom the Roman Empire manifested in the end times.

None of that info comes from the bible so it should be rejected.

The false prophet comes out of the earth. The earth representing Israel.


There is nothing in the text to indicate it's a reference to Israel. Earth just means out of the nations who inhabit the Earth. It means he is human man.
 

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Everyone already knows that. If there were these supposed two figures in the end times, Daniel would have spoke of them but he doesn't. He speaks of a ten horned beast kingdom, and one leader of it. John shows the same in Rev with a ten horned empire and one leader of it.
No, in Revelation, the beast with ten horns also has seven heads. The seven heads are not shown on the Daniel 7 fourth beast.

The leader of the beast (kingdom) coming out of the sea in Revelation 13:1 will be the mortally wounded, but healed head.

The ten horns are on that one mortally wounded, but healed head.


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No, in Revelation, the beast with ten horns also has seven heads. The seven heads are not shown on the Daniel 7 fourth beast.

Everyone knows that already. The point was neither Daniel or John describes ten horns, and two other people in charge. It's always only ten horns and one other person. You have another person that neither John or Daniel described.

There is satan, the beast kingdom and the beast king/FP. No one else. The beast with ten horns is a kingdom not a man.



The leader of the beast (kingdom) coming out of the sea in Revelation 13:1 will be the mortally wounded, but healed head.

The ten horns are on that one mortally wounded, but healed head.

No verse says all ten horns are on one of the 7 heads. Since the heads are mountains which are areas of land and horns are kings with kingdoms, the ten horns would be dispersed throughout the 7 lands not all on one land.
 

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No verse says all ten horns are on one of the 7 heads.
The ten horns are on the mortally wounded, but healed head, because the ten kings rule with the beast king for one hour (metaphoric for 42 months).

Revelation 17:
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
 

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The ten horns are on the mortally wounded, but healed head, because the ten kings rule with the beast king for one hour (metaphoric for 42 months).

The scripture is speaking of the full beast ruling for 42 months, not one of it's heads only.