True or not? God is Jesus, but Jesus isn’t God.

[Lizbeth]

Yes, Jesus will rule for a thousand years with the saints. The Third Temple will be the place of God's throne forever. But God is not limited to one point in space. The city of Yahweh Shammah (translated as "the Lord is there") will be built in Israel. God's rule from the Temple and the city of Yahweh Shammah will not be like the rule of kings or the UN. There will be a country, Israel, where saints from all nations are gathered. These saints will be one people with the Jews. The city of Yahweh Shammah is needed to protect communication with the deceased saints from the rest of the world. The deceased saints will communicate in the forbidden city only with the Israelites from the tribes of Israel. Therefore, Israel will act as a mediator between God and the rest of humanity, it will act as the Messiah. Therefore, we can say that Israel will become the incarnation of Jesus Christ at the Second Coming.

Except that Christ is ruling and reigning now and the saints with Him. After His resurrection Jesus said all authority in heaven and earth has been given to Him, and He went to sit on His throne at the right hand of the Father. The church is His body and army on earth ruling and reigning with Him, enforcing His rule.....healing the sick, casting out demons, taking ground for the Lord in the saving of souls, resisting the devil, and just in being more than conquerors in all things that come against us, and taking gr"ound for the Lord in our own hearts. All things HAVE been put under His feet"...that means He is ruling over everything.....even though "we do not yet SEE everything put under Him". He said to the religious leaders of Israel that if He is healing the sick and casting out devils with the finger of God then the kingdom has come to them. Remember we are to walk by faith not by sight. His rule is by faith, not by sight. His kingdom comes NOT with our careful OBSERVATION (sight) but is within and among us. Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things NOT YET SEEN. We need to see Revelation in light of all the scrips that came before it....I don't have a handle on every single allegory in that book, but overall it is a kind of reiteration and summing up of all that came before. So much of what is written in Rev is already seen in the earlier scriptures.

As I mentioned, I have found no command or instruction to build Ezekiel's temple. Unless I missed it and you can show it to me. God never even commanded the first temple in the first place...that has always been in the mind of man, though He allowed it and even made use of it to speak to the people in wonderful allegories/types/shadows. He Himself had it destroyed twice, because it became a stumbling block and idol to the people. Israel is getting set to double down on her error, sadly, to build another temple in still not having accepted Christ as messiah. And there is that Mystery Babylon gets judged with double judgment. And it says in scripture to speak comfortably to Israel, that she has paid double/twice for her sins.

Encourage you or anyone to read the whole chapter of Jer 7 prayerfully. The Lord has never been after the outward show of earthly things or just cleaning the outside of the cup, but it is true righteousness He seeks, in simplicity (simplicity of Christ). Those who will worship Him in spirit and in truth, not in temples made by hands of man.

Jer 7:4
Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, are these. (I understand the "these" to be the righteousness that the Lord goes on to describe, righteous people.)

 

[Galgal]

Jer 7:4
Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, are these. (I understand the "these" to be the righteousness that the Lord goes on to describe, righteous people.)

Read this verse to yourself, in relation to the "temple of the living God". Who now sits in the temple of the living God instead of God? Look at your Christianity. Yeah, you accept by faith that Jesus sends murderers to Ukraine, Christ once killed Huguenots and divided his Body into thousands of denominations and sects. And then continue to serve all this, building blasphemous empires and paying tithes to the two-horned beast. Until those are found who will destroy your self-deception by building the Third Temple and the city of Yahweh Shammah. One problem - you will not be in that city.

At this point I'm leaving the topic.

 

[Lizbeth]

Read this verse to yourself, in relation to the "temple of the living God". Who now sits in the temple of the living God instead of God? Look at your Christianity. Yeah, you accept by faith that Jesus sends murderers to Ukraine, Christ once killed Huguenots and divided his Body into thousands of denominations and sects. And then continue to serve all this, building blasphemous empires and paying tithes to the two-horned beast. Until those are found who will destroy your self-deception by building the Third Temple and the city of Yahweh Shammah. One problem - you will not be in that city.

At this point I'm leaving the topic.

What do you know of my Christianity?....which God will judge and decide who goes where, not anyone else. I am not serving the Babylon apostate church or apostate Israel. I don't accept that Christ sends murderers to the Ukraine.....that is the evil doings of man and devil. A war that I believe could have easily been avoided and I suspect might have been provoked on purpose, though I'm not an expert on the subject. It's been a very long time since I paid tithes to anyone. God owns more than 10% of me...I am not my own but was bought with a price. Jesus gave His all for us, we owe Him all that we have and are.

Are you are leaving because of that scripture I brought? It was the Lord who opened my eyes to understand it, though for now we only see through a glass darkly. I just can't see Him going back to weak and beggardly elements. Well, I guess I've said all I have to say on this too.

 

[The Learner]

not keeping up

 

[Simonides]

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[Corinth77777]

No, their OFFICES are what are separate.

Thus that does not mean Jesus stopped being Immanuel, God with us, when He was born in the flesh.




Yes, Jesus did... have a body before being born in the flesh. It was a body of SPIRIT.

And with Jesus' resurrection body, at some point it was 'quickened' to the heavenly type body as I showed from Bible Scripture per 1 Peter 3:18-19 and 1 Corinthians 15:45-50.

And Apostle Paul was clear in 1 Corinthians 15 that the resurrection is about a "spiritual body", NOT another flesh body...

1 Cor 15:49-50
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
KJV

So you can listen to those country preachers that try to preach a 'fleshy' resurrection with a new flesh body in the future kingdom of God, or simply listen to what Apostle Paul taught above.

Why not flesh, blood, and Spirit?

 

[Corinth77777]

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

What are ya'll going to do about this scripture? View attachment 55326

Its sounds like God is His word, in that passage

Or the word WAS God

If "was" is really the interpreted word

Then doesn't it sound like the word is not God anymore when the word became flesh?

 

[Corinth77777]

Its sounds like God is His word, in that passage

Or the word WAS God

If "was" is really the interpreted word

Then doesn't sound like the word is not God anymore when the word became flesh?

Let's try this on...God created everything through His word.

The word sound like the outside of the inside

Maybe I'll try on this example:
H20 is the components that make up different things depending upon what atmosphere it's in.


H20 let it remain as h20

Now is H20 H20 when it takes on another form

I'd say no, because it now is h20 + the atmosphere it lives in.

H20 can take on many forms including but not limited to snow, ice, midst, water,

Therefore say the word did the same? The word is now an extension plus its componenitial make up.

So it contains the essense of God plus it's atmosphere (mankind)

Which is why God can live in His son ( because He is God and man)

I just popped this out..

But here is another side

Jesus had His own Spirit, if by definition His will is part of His Spirit.

So if Jesus had His own spirit then how is Jesus the Father.

Well Jesus is not the Father but has the essence of the father. As I am not my mother and father but have the dna of my mother and father.

So I'd say He has the essence or very nature of His father

So then I can have the essence of my Father and not be my father. Because I contain my own Spirit/will.

Anyway just some thoughts that are mind boggling.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Then doesn't it sound like the word is not God anymore when the word became flesh?

No because elsewhere we see Truths such as...

John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Jesus said God's Word IS Truth (John 17:17)... so Jesus is Truth

The gifts and callings of God are without repentance... (Romans 11:29) which is why Jesus will be in His glorified flesh body for all eternity and since everything produces after it's own kind (Genesis 1:24) those that belong to Jesus will be the same.

 

[Davy]

Why not flesh, blood, and Spirit?

Our flesh body is a temporary event of this PRESENT world. We will no longer need it once our flesh dies.

Men's doctrines relies on their 'fleshy mind' when they wrongly preach the resurrection is about our flesh being raised. Lord Jesus' flesh body was raised from the dead, but at some point was "quickened" to a Spirit. 1 Corinthians 15:45 and 1 Peter 3:18-19 both reveal that. Jesus' resurrection was different in that His resurrection retained the marks of His crucifixion.

Those who do not understand this obviously must have a conflict in their minds, because Apostle Paul showed that even if our flesh body were dissolved, we still have another body not made with hands, eternal from God...

2 Cor 5:1-8
5 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:

3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.

4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.

5 Now He That hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, Who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.

6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
KJV

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Jesus is still in a flesh body... it has been glorified.

We are joint heirs with Him and we will be getting the same

 

[Taken]

True or not? God is Jesus, but Jesus isn’t God.

I believe God is Jesus and Jesus is God.

I believe in Gods Armor of Faith.

I do NOT subscribe to or believe the (predominately Catholics Teaching, of the Visual sketch called the “shield of the Trinity”)…clearly teaching WHO God is and is “not”.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[pepper]

And why is this? Because God IS Jesus!

Does it surprise you as it does me to encounter that which is opposed to the teachings?
The Sabbath does not exist for Christian men and women. Even though the Sabbath was made for man,people,not a religious sect but people of all kind.And won't pass out of this world as long as it and Heaven exist.

And, Jesus was not God! Even though Jesus repeatedly said the opposite.

The Prologue to the Gospel​

John 1
1 In the beginning[a] was the Word, and the Word was with God,[b] and the Word was fully God.[c] 2 The Word[d] was with God in the beginning. 3 All things were created[e] by him, and apart from him not one thing was created[f] that has been created.[g] 4 In him was life,[h] and the life was the light of mankind.[i]
....14 Now[ah] the Word became flesh[ai] and took up residence[aj] among us.


Emmanuel=God with us.