Matthew 18:4
Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
Jesus asks us to be humble, not a "born again" snob
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Dan Clarkston
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So whassup with saying born again peoples are snobs?
To the Lord there are only two types of people... those that have been born again and have not backsliden and are still abiding IN CHRIST bearing fruit... and those walking after the flesh which includes some who used to be Christians but started sowing to the flesh and became corrupt
Some are wheat and some are tares... the Lord accepts the wheat and rejects the tares
Sure He loves all people, He just does not accept all people
To the Lord there are only two types of people... those that have been born again and have not backsliden and are still abiding IN CHRIST bearing fruit... and those walking after the flesh which includes some who used to be Christians but started sowing to the flesh and became corrupt
Some are wheat and some are tares... the Lord accepts the wheat and rejects the tares
Sure He loves all people, He just does not accept all people
Jesus is Lord!
I believe in Jesus.
I believe that Jesus is the Christ.
I believe that Jesus sacrificed himself on the cross to save ALL people.
I believe in Jesus's commandments and strive to follow them, especially the commandment to love others.
I believe that Jesus was resurrected on the third day.
I believe that Jesus is the ONLY path to salvation.
I believe that Jesus sits on the right-hand side of our Heavenly Father.
In spite of all of these beliefs, I am told by TRUE, born again Christians here that, unless I have been "born again", that I am NOT a follower of Christ, aka a "Christian".
I do not know if I have been "born again" and even if I thought I was and in keeping with Jesus's call for humility, I would refrain from proclaiming such to others.
So as not to defile the "Christian" sub-forums with my non-Christian presence I have changed my self-identification on the forum controls from "Christian" to "other".
You're welcome.
I believe in Jesus.
I believe that Jesus is the Christ.
I believe that Jesus sacrificed himself on the cross to save ALL people.
I believe in Jesus's commandments and strive to follow them, especially the commandment to love others.
I believe that Jesus was resurrected on the third day.
I believe that Jesus is the ONLY path to salvation.
I believe that Jesus sits on the right-hand side of our Heavenly Father.
In spite of all of these beliefs, I am told by TRUE, born again Christians here that, unless I have been "born again", that I am NOT a follower of Christ, aka a "Christian".
I do not know if I have been "born again" and even if I thought I was and in keeping with Jesus's call for humility, I would refrain from proclaiming such to others.
So as not to defile the "Christian" sub-forums with my non-Christian presence I have changed my self-identification on the forum controls from "Christian" to "other".
You're welcome.
Have you had a run-in with people claiming to be followers of Jesus who weren’t humble @NotTheRock? If you have, has their behavior kept you from following Jesus?
Yes, Christians tell me that Jesus tortures people without mercy day and night forever and ever in Hell.
Dan Clarkston
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So you don't have access to a Bible to learn how to become a child of God (born again)???
Dan Clarkston
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Actually the Lord created hell for satan and his angels (demons) and those that do not get born again and walk with the Lord in this life are in fact property of the devil and they will get the reward their father satan gets
So, those that end up in hell are the cause of themselves being in hell because they rejected the Lord... the Lord did not send them to hell, they sent themselves to hell.
Dan Clarkston
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Not all claiming to be Christian actually believe Jesus tells the truth all the time.
Jesus says those that go to hell will burn in fire that shall NOT be quenched into everlasting punishment
Mark 9:43-44 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
2 Thessalonians 1:9
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
Texts like Jude 6, Matthew 8:12, Matthew 22:13, and Matthew 25:30, and 2 Thessalonians 1:9 show that darkness signifies a state of deprivation and distress, not of destruction in the sense of ceasing to exist. Only those who exist can weep and gnash their teeth, as those banished into the darkness are said to do. Luke 16:22–24 shows that fire signifies continued existence in pain as Revelation 14:10 with 19:20 and 20:10, and Matthew 13:42, 50, confirm this.
There are Christians who don’t believe Jesus - who is the truth, who embodies the truth (John 14:6) - doesn’t tell the truth all the time?
That ought never to be.
Being "born again" is something that happens to and for us; it's not something we can do to ourselves. Countless well-meaning preachers have asked people to be "born again" by accepting Jesus as their savior. Upon doing so, some then go out and proclaim that they have been "born again".
@NotTheRock. Don't believe anything anyone tells you—that you are not born-again. The indication of being born again is the Holy Spirit dwelling within you and the fruit that bears from that, transforming our lives from out of the world into Christ Jesus our lord and savior xox
ScottA
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Those who tell you that are indeed snobs--snobs without understanding.
As for you--you are a "Christian."
As for not knowing whether you are born again, knowing comes with a notable change within you. Certain things you may have once loved, you will hate, and things you perhaps hated, you may begin to love.
As for refraining from proclaiming to be born again--no--you will not refrain, for it will not be you who speaks, but the Holy Spirit who speaks. And you're going to LOVE it!
ScottA
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Indeed, there are those who teach error, and those who believe them. Unfortunately.
There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Psalm 138:6 Though the LORD be high, yet hath he respect unto the lowly:
but the proud he knoweth afar off.
Prov 16:5 Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD:
though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.
I just posted this on your other thread, I think I missed that you were being told something different than what John has written
1John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
Just stay with the scriptures, although I understand your fustrations, make his word your trust.
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