Jesus asks us to be humble, not a "born again" snob

[ElectedbyHim]

And sadly John MacArthur has been tricked by the devil in to twisting scripture and ignoring lots of other scripture which is how one ends up following the heretic John Calvin who was an un-repentant murderer who thought it was OK to MURDER people who don't agree with calvinist cult doctrine

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That is your opinion of course.

Did John Calvin murder Michael Servetus?

Read the article.

All Pastors/teachers have sin. You also must understand the politics/culture at that time.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Some people who aren’t Calvinist - take me, for example, a Jewish monotheist - are still able to find some truth in what Calvinists say and agree with it, because it is truth.

Uh huh, the devil always mixes a little truth in with the lies.

Like when someone wants to poison some gophers... they use bait (food) that has strychnine in it.

The majority of the food the gopher is eating is good food... but a small percent is poison

This is how the devil operates as we can see in his lies to Adam and Eve in the garden where the end result is causing them to believe what the devil said and reject what the Lord says

That causes death (spiritual death, separation from God) which is separation from God which is also what happens to those who get their teaching from people who reject Jesus as being the Messiah

 

[ElectedbyHim]

Uh huh, the devil always mixes a little truth in with the lies.

Like when someone wants to poison some gophers... they use bait (food) that has strychnine in it.

The majority of the food the gopher is eating is good food... but a small percent is poison

This is how the devil operates as we can see in his lies to Adam and Eve in the garden where the end result is causing them to believe what the devil said and reject what the Lord says

That causes death (spiritual death, separation from God) which is separation from God which is also what happens to those who get their teaching from people who reject Jesus as being the Messiah View attachment 56536

What are the lies that the Doctrines of Grace teach?

 

[Dan Clarkston]

What are the lies that the Doctrines of Grace teach?

Those that don't know their Bible to see what's wrong with modern false grace doctrines... have already been deceived by modern false grace doctrines and no amount of discussion and scripture references can help therm get delivered from the lies the devil has brought forth concerning the grace of God.

Jude 1:4
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Matthias]

Uh huh, the devil always mixes a little truth in with the lies.

Like when someone wants to poison some gophers... they use bait (food) that has strychnine in it.

The majority of the food the gopher is eating is good food... but a small percent is poison

This is how the devil operates as we can see in his lies to Adam and Eve in the garden where the end result is causing them to believe what the devil said and reject what the Lord says

That causes death (spiritual death, separation from God) which is separation from God which is also what happens to those who get their teaching from people who reject Jesus as being the Messiah View attachment 56536

Hold on to the truth, no matter who speaks it. Reject whatever you’re unable to agree is truth.

“Swallow the meat and spit out the bones”.

 

[ElectedbyHim]

Those that don't know their Bible to see what's wrong with modern false grace doctrines... have already been deceived by modern false grace doctrines and no amount of discussion and scripture references can help therm get delivered from the lies the devil has brought forth concerning the grace of God. View attachment 56540

Jude 1:4
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Those that don't know their Bible to see what's wrong with modern false grace doctrines... have already been deceived by modern false grace doctrines and no amount of discussion and scripture references can help therm get delivered from the lies the devil has brought forth concerning the grace of God.

That did not answer my question.

modern false grace doctrines

What is that?

 

[Dan Clarkston]

“Swallow the meat and spit out the bones”.

In other words... go ahead and fellowship with darkness

When people... such as the catholics as an example... who teach false doctrine but sometimes like a blind squirrel that occasionally finds a nut and say a few things that are true.... this does not mean real Christians are to fellowship with them or point others to them.

Doing so is causing others to stumble which is sinful behavior.

Real Christians never knowingly sit under false doctrine or take communion with those that teach false doctrine

 

[Matthias]

In other words... go ahead and fellowship with darkness View attachment 56562

No. Go ahead and agree on things that are the truth.

When people... such as the catholics as an example... who teach false doctrine but sometimes like a blind squirrel that occasionally finds a nut and say a few things that are true.... this does not mean real Christians are to fellowship with them or point others to them.

Doing so is causing others to stumble which is sinful behavior.

Real Christians never knowingly sit under false doctrine or take communion with those that teach false doctrine View attachment 56563

 

[Dan Clarkston]

No. Go ahead and agree on things that are the truth.

Yeah, fellowship with darkness and think it's all good

Ephesians 5:11
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Reprove means to correct.... so when fellow shipping with the purveyors of false doctrine are you correcting them on the obvious error they be teachin?

If you are, then there could be some value in hanging out with those teachin false doctrine.... otherwise all you are doing to fellow shipping with darkness.

 

[Matthias]

Yeah, fellowship with darkness and think it's all good

No.

Ephesians 5:11
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Reprove means to correct.... so when fellow shipping with the purveyors of false doctrine are you correcting them on the obvious error they be teachin?

Yes.

If you are, then there could be some value in hanging out with those teachin false doctrine.... otherwise all you are doing to fellow shipping with darkness.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Yes.

Uh huh... they give you the left foot of fellowship right out the door yet?

That's what they did to Jesus and the Apostles who tried to show religious people the error of their false doctrine ways

 

[Matthias]

Uh huh... they give you the left foot of fellowship right out the door yet?

That's what they did to Jesus and the Apostles who tried to show religious people the error of their false doctrine ways View attachment 56571

Yes.