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many now preach a false gospel indeed my friend .
Dear amigo de christo,
Do you understand that after the death of Paul, scripture teaches that all new believers (babes) will be deceived by the spirit of anti-Christ and will fall from grace?

All the Elect will experience the apostasy in their own lives as they travel the "one way to the Father". They cannot avoid it.

This truth is taught in many of Christ's New Covenant teachings. For that reason, when Christ returns (His second coming) to convert one of His Elect, He will find them in an apostate condition. To restore them, Christ will pour out the Latter Rain of the Spirit. This is the baptism of the Spirit and it will heal the person's spiritual blindness just as it did for Paul when He received the Latter Rain of the Spirit:

17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost. 18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized. 19 And when he had received meat (truth), he was strengthened.

After the Elect person's spiritual blindness is healed, they will begin feasting on God's Word for the first time. This event is what the Marriage Supper of the Lamb and the Lord's Supper represent.

If you re-read the story of Paul's conversion experience in Acts 9, you will notice that after Paul received the Early Rain of the Spirit on the Damascus Road, Paul became blind and had to be led by the hand into Damascus.

Note: Damascus is a "type" for earthly Jerusalem where all the prophets/saints are killed. The Old Covenant prophets were physically killed because the Old Covenant was a physical and outward covenant. But the New Covenant is different. It is a spiritual covenant. When the New Covenant saints are killed, they are spiritually killed (loss of salvation) in earthly Jerusalem. This death can only happen in one way. That way is when they commit the "sin that leads to death" (1John 5:16) of mixing their own works with faith.

While Paul was in Damascus his first three days (the number three represents a spiritual process is happening), Paul could not eat or drink. This represented that Paul could not eat the true bread from heaven or drink the New Wine of Christ's blood. The spiritual process that Paul experienced during those three days made Paul into a "man of sin".

Christ teaches the spiritual process that Paul experienced in Damascus in the scripture below:

Mat 12:43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself SEVEN other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

The spiritual symbol of an unclean spirit represents a spirit which teaches Satan's false truth through lies and deceptions.

Since a new believer remains spiritually blind (Mark 8:21-25) after receiving the Early Rain of the Spirit, they cannot replace their worldly false beliefs with the truth of Christ. ONE unclean spirit leaves but comes back with SEVEN more. The number "seven" represents perfection. In this case, the number seven represents the perfection of Satan's lies/deceptions which come to a believer by the indwelling of the spirit of anti-Christ. Now, instead of ONE unclean spirit within the believer, they now have EIGHT. The number eight is a spiritual symbol which represents a new spiritual condition. In this case, the new spiritual condition is worse than the first.

This "worse than the first" spiritual condition causes the believer to become a False Prophet, a Man of Sin, a Minister of Satan and a Seven Headed Beast with Ten Horns & Crowns.

After Paul had fully accepted Satan's "another gospel" and had become "worse than the first" (man of sin), the time for the "end of the ages" to come upon Paul arrived. Christ (typed by Ananias) then returned to Paul and poured out the Latter Rain of the Spirit.

The verse below teaches this same truth:

Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom (Satan's "another gospel) shall be preached in all the world (the apostate believer) for a witness unto all nations (fully accepted by person); and then shall the end come.

The "end" is referring to the "end of the ages" when Christ returns and pours out the Latter Rain of the Spirit upon the worsened child.

Paul confirms this understanding in the verse below:

1Cor 10:11 Now all these things happened to them as types, and have been written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages are come.

After the Elect person has received the Latter Rain of the Spirit, the new child of God will be born and gathered to heaven (spiritually speaking, Mat 24:29-31).

It is only the new child of God who can see spiritually. Carnal mankind is and always will be blinded by their carnal mind.

With their new ability to see spiritually, the Elect believer will see the Abomination of Desolation that had previously occurred within themselves when the spirit of anti-Christ entered them.

These verses apply:

Mat 24:15 When (not if) ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place (God's temple/the believer), (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains (as Lot did before judgment fell):

When judgment falls on the Elect believer, it will spiritually remove and destroy the worsened child of the devil (man of sin) from within them.

This judgment is described below:

Mat 24:40 Then shall two (one Elect person) be in the field; the one shall be taken (the spirit of anti-Christ), and the other left (Holy Spirit). 41 Two women (one Elect person) shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken (the Great Harlot), and the other left (Holy Spirit).

The man of sin has two spiritual parts: the spirit of anti-Christ and the Great Harlot. The Great Harlot is a symbol which represents mankind's "marred" and carnal spirit (Jer 18:4).

This verse applies to the judgment of the Great Harlot:

Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great (city) is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils (spirit of anti-Christ), and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

Babylon the great city is synonymous with earthly Jerusalem, Damascus, Egypt, Sodom AND the Great Harlot (Rev 17:1 & 18).

It is the spirit of anti-Christ that makes the person's marred and carnal spirit worse than the first. Both spirits must be removed and destroyed by Christ's judgment so that the Elect believer will only be guided by the Holy Spirit. After this judgment is complete, the Elect believer will be changed from a worsened child of the devil into a child of God. This is what must happen for a person to be converted.

I will end with this final verse:

1Sam 12:17 Is it not wheat harvest today? (conversion day of the Elect) I will call unto the LORD, and he shall send thunder and Rain (Latter Rain); that ye may perceive (spiritual blindness healed) and see that your wickedness is great (Man of Sin revealed), which ye have done in the sight of the LORD, in asking you a king.

What I presented above is the true "one way to the Father". It happens to a person solely by the work of Christ and at a time of God's choosing. The person contributes nothing because they have nothing that they can contribute.

Joe
 
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Thank you for your comment, faithwilldo.
 

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While some people may believe differently it’s okay.

Today we have a choice, to either eat from the tree of life or the tree of knowledge and good and evil, just like Adam and Eve had done. While there may be doctrines which suggest that God picks and chooses, that’s okay.

It wasn’t that way in the Garden. God allows Adam and Eve freedom, in this life. While I do believe hearing concerning the things of God, can draw you near to God. You can easily afford yourself to walk away.

“The Spirit and the bride say, “Come.” Let anyone who hears this say, “Come.” Let anyone who is thirsty come. Let anyone who desires drink freely from the water of life.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭22‬:‭17‬ ‭NLT‬‬

Anyone who desires to come near the Lord Yeshua they may, drink from the waters that he gives, but if they so choose not to do so. That is between themselves and God. Some choose to look faithfully to God not even knowing the name “Jesus.”

Everything comes down to choice.

 

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“One day Jesus told a story in the form of a parable to a large crowd that had gathered from many towns to hear him: “A farmer went out to plant his seed. As he scattered it across his field, some seed fell on a footpath, where it was stepped on, and the birds ate it. Other seed fell among rocks. It began to grow, but the plant soon wilted and died for lack of moisture. Other seed fell among thorns that grew up with it and choked out the tender plants. Still other seed fell on fertile soil. This seed grew and produced a crop that was a hundred times as much as had been planted!” When he had said this, he called out, “Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand.””
‭‭Luke‬ ‭8‬:‭4‬-‭8‬ ‭NLT‬‬

Keep seeking God faithfully and he will reward you in spiritual guidance, which leads on to growth, spiritually maturing.

Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life.
“Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14‬:‭6‬ ‭NLT‬‬

Another choice set by Jesus, as the one that knocks on the door.
““Look! I stand at the door and knock. If you hear my voice and open the door, I will come in, and we will share a meal together as friends.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭3‬:‭20‬ ‭NLT‬‬
 

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You can't open the door without going to the door and allowing someone to enter your house. Or you can lock it and not let the one knocking inside.
 

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You can't open the door without going to the door and allowing someone to enter your house. Or you can lock it and not let the one knocking inside.

Just speaking of this reminds me of the time where Jesus was on the mountain praying and he sent his apostles to the other land across the lake. They rowed and rowed, but they could not do it until he entered the vessel.

Matthew 14:
22 Immediately after this, Jesus insisted that his disciples get back into the boat and cross to the other side of the lake, while he sent the people home. 23 After sending them home, he went up into the hills by himself to pray. Night fell while he was there alone. 24 Meanwhile, the disciples were in trouble far away from land, for a strong wind had risen, and they were fighting heavy waves. 25 About three o’clock in the morning[a] Jesus came toward them, walking on the water. 26 When the disciples saw him walking on the water, they were terrified. In their fear, they cried out, “It’s a ghost!” 27 But Jesus spoke to them at once. “Don’t be afraid,” he said. “Take courage. I am here![b]”
28 Then Peter called to him, “Lord, if it’s really you, tell me to come to you, walking on the water.” 29 “Yes, come,” Jesus said. So Peter went over the side of the boat and walked on the water toward Jesus. 30 But when he saw the strong[c] wind and the waves, he was terrified and began to sink. “Save me, Lord!” he shouted. 31 Jesus immediately reached out and grabbed him. “You have so little faith,” Jesus said. “Why did you doubt me?” 32 When they climbed back into the boat, the wind stopped.

Our bodies of flesh is anchored by the soul of each person. And in technically speaking our "home" we live into today is our vessels, and the "door" which Jesus knocks on is the heart. We each decide every day, whether or not we allow Jesus to dine with us, and partake in supping with him, when we abide within as he is the vine, and we are the branches.

Jesus speaking to his Apostles; I believe,

John 15:
“I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He [a]takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me. 5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.

All the best and glory to God, and the Lord Yeshua, whom has done all for this world to be reconciled back to God in Christ.

2 Corinthians 5:19 For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, no longer counting people’s sins against them. And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation.

 

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Just speaking of this reminds me of the time where Jesus was on the mountain praying and he sent his apostles to the other land across the lake. They rowed and rowed, but they could not do it until he entered the vessel.



Our bodies of flesh is anchored by the soul of each person. And in technically speaking our "home" we live into today is our vessels, and the "door" which Jesus knocks on is the heart. We each decide every day, whether or not we allow Jesus to dine with us, and partake in supping with him, when we abide within as he is the vine, and we are the branches.

Jesus speaking to his Apostles; I believe,



All the best and glory to God, and the Lord Yeshua, whom has done all for this world to be reconciled back to God in Christ.




Speaking on these notions reminds me of the houses which Jesus had promised.

John 14: 1 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God[a]; believe also in me. 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.”

This speaks of spiritual homes, new spiritual bodies God will bestow upon those whom are his when they finally leave this "home" they reside in.

Hebrews 11:13 13 All these people died still believing what God had promised them. They did not receive what was promised, but they saw it all from a distance and welcomed it. They agreed that they were foreigners and nomads here on earth.

As the Hebrew writer writes, Paul writes in the same manner.

44 They are buried as natural human bodies, but they will be raised as spiritual bodies. For just as there are natural bodies, there are also spiritual bodies.

At the end of life, the spiritual treasures you stored up for yourselves, will be seen as you continue to move forwards looking to God, and seek him in faith, and believing on the Son of God whom gave his life, died, was buried, and resurrected.
Matthew 6:19 “Don’t store up treasures here on earth, where moths eat them and rust destroys them, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 Store your treasures in heaven, where moths and rust cannot destroy, and thieves do not break in and steal. 21 Wherever your treasure is, there the desires of your heart will also be.

Paul wrote to those in Galatia,
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
 

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Dear amigo de christo,
Do you understand that after the death of Paul, scripture teaches that all new believers (babes) will be deceived by the spirit of anti-Christ and will fall from grace?

All the Elect will experience the apostasy in their own lives as they travel the "one way to the Father". They cannot avoid it.

This truth is taught in many of Christ's New Covenant teachings. For that reason, when Christ returns (His second coming) to convert one of His Elect, He will find them in an apostate condition. To restore them, Christ will pour out the Latter Rain of the Spirit. This is the baptism of the Spirit and it will heal the person's spiritual blindness just as it did for Paul when He received the Latter Rain of the Spirit:

17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost. 18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized. 19 And when he had received meat (truth), he was strengthened.

After the Elect person's spiritual blindness is healed, they will begin feasting on God's Word for the first time. This event is what the Marriage Supper of the Lamb and the Lord's Supper represent.

If you re-read the story of Paul's conversion experience in Acts 9, you will notice that after Paul received the Early Rain of the Spirit on the Damascus Road, Paul became blind and had to be led by the hand into Damascus.

Note: Damascus is a "type" for earthly Jerusalem where all the prophets/saints are killed. The Old Covenant prophets were physically killed because the Old Covenant was a physical and outward covenant. But the New Covenant is different. It is a spiritual covenant. When the New Covenant saints are killed, they are spiritually killed (loss of salvation) in earthly Jerusalem. This death can only happen in one way. That way is when they commit the "sin that leads to death" (1John 5:16) of mixing their own works with faith.

While Paul was in Damascus his first three days (the number three represents a spiritual process is happening), Paul could not eat or drink. This represented that Paul could not eat the true bread from heaven or drink the New Wine of Christ's blood. The spiritual process that Paul experienced during those three days made Paul into a "man of sin".

Christ teaches the spiritual process that Paul experienced in Damascus in the scripture below:

Mat 12:43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself SEVEN other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

The spiritual symbol of an unclean spirit represents a spirit which teaches Satan's false truth through lies and deceptions.

Since a new believer remains spiritually blind (Mark 8:21-25) after receiving the Early Rain of the Spirit, they cannot replace their worldly false beliefs with the truth of Christ. ONE unclean spirit leaves but comes back with SEVEN more. The number "seven" represents perfection. In this case, the number seven represents the perfection of Satan's lies/deceptions which come to a believer by the indwelling of the spirit of anti-Christ. Now, instead of ONE unclean spirit within the believer, they now have EIGHT. The number eight is a spiritual symbol which represents a new spiritual condition. In this case, the new spiritual condition is worse than the first.

This "worse than the first" spiritual condition causes the believer to become a False Prophet, a Man of Sin, a Minister of Satan and a Seven Headed Beast with Ten Horns & Crowns.

After Paul had fully accepted Satan's "another gospel" and had become "worse than the first" (man of sin), the time for the "end of the ages" to come upon Paul arrived. Christ (typed by Ananias) then returned to Paul and poured out the Latter Rain of the Spirit.

The verse below teaches this same truth:

Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom (Satan's "another gospel) shall be preached in all the world (the apostate believer) for a witness unto all nations (fully accepted by person); and then shall the end come.

The "end" is referring to the "end of the ages" when Christ returns and pours out the Latter Rain of the Spirit upon the worsened child.

Paul confirms this understanding in the verse below:

1Cor 10:11 Now all these things happened to them as types, and have been written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages are come.

After the Elect person has received the Latter Rain of the Spirit, the new child of God will be born and gathered to heaven (spiritually speaking, Mat 24:29-31).

It is only the new child of God who can see spiritually. Carnal mankind is and always will be blinded by their carnal mind.

With their new ability to see spiritually, the Elect believer will see the Abomination of Desolation that had previously occurred within themselves when the spirit of anti-Christ entered them.

These verses apply:

Mat 24:15 When (not if) ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place (God's temple/the believer), (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains (as Lot did before judgment fell):

When judgment falls on the Elect believer, it will spiritually remove and destroy the worsened child of the devil (man of sin) from within them.

This judgment is described below:

Mat 24:40 Then shall two (one Elect person) be in the field; the one shall be taken (the spirit of anti-Christ), and the other left (Holy Spirit). 41 Two women (one Elect person) shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken (the Great Harlot), and the other left (Holy Spirit).

The man of sin has two spiritual parts: the spirit of anti-Christ and the Great Harlot. The Great Harlot is a symbol which represents mankind's "marred" and carnal spirit (Jer 18:4).

This verse applies to the judgment of the Great Harlot:

Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great (city) is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils (spirit of anti-Christ), and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

Babylon the great city is synonymous with earthly Jerusalem, Damascus, Egypt, Sodom AND the Great Harlot (Rev 17:1 & 18).

It is the spirit of anti-Christ that makes the person's marred and carnal spirit worse than the first. Both spirits must be removed and destroyed by Christ's judgment so that the Elect believer will only be guided by the Holy Spirit. After this judgment is complete, the Elect believer will be changed from a worsened child of the devil into a child of God. This is what must happen for a person to be converted.

I will end with this final verse:

1Sam 12:17 Is it not wheat harvest today? (conversion day of the Elect) I will call unto the LORD, and he shall send thunder and Rain (Latter Rain); that ye may perceive (spiritual blindness healed) and see that your wickedness is great (Man of Sin revealed), which ye have done in the sight of the LORD, in asking you a king.

What I presented above is the true "one way to the Father". It happens to a person solely by the work of Christ and at a time of God's choosing. The person contributes nothing because they have nothing that they can contribute.

Joe
sorry friend but that simply will not do . NO DEAL .
that kind of faith will not DO . You wanna hug on a false love that is on you .
 
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sorry friend but that simply will not do . NO DEAL .
that kind of faith will not DO . You wanna hug on a false love that is on you .
Dear amigo de christo,
The faith that is being taught on this thread is a faith mixed with works. That false faith produces a self-righteous apostate believer who is rejected by Christ.

Also, when a believer mixes their own works with faith, they are trying to serve two masters; Satan and Christ.

The Old Covenant of Law is based on the works of man and is called the crooked way.

Lam 3:9 He hath enclosed my ways with hewn stone (represents man's works of the Law), he hath made my paths crooked.

Isa 59:8 The way of peace they do not know; there is no justice in their paths. They have turned them into crooked roads; no one who walks along them will know peace.


The crooked way seems right to carnal mankind but it only leads to death (Prov 16:25). That is why scripture says that Satan is the crooked serpent and that is why Moses placed a serpent on a pole to temporary give life to the Israelites when they sinned. The serpent on the pole represented Satan and his crooked way of man's works (the Old Covenant of Law).

Num 21:8 And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.

Don't confuse the crooked way with the Law being crooked, it is not. The crooked way is only man's attempt by their own works to follow the Law to make themselves righteous before God. This false way will only clothe a person in filthy rags and not in the white robe of Christ's righteousness.

In contrast to the Old Covenant of Law, the New Covenant of Grace through Faith is based solely on the works of Christ and is called the straight way. The straight way is the only path that leads to the Father.

The Old Covenant of Law is represented by the spirit word "Old Wine" (red wine) and the New Covenant is represented by the spirit word "New Wine".

When a believer mixes these two wines together, Satan will bite them and spiritually kill them. This is the sin that leads to death.

Prov 23:26 My son, give me thine heart, and let thine eyes observe my ways. 27 For a whore is a deep ditch; and a strange woman is a narrow pit. 28 She also lieth in wait as for a prey, and increaseth the transgressors among men. 29 Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? 30 They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine. 31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red (Old Wine), when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself (man's works) aright. 32 At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.

Christ also used the wine analogy to teach this additional message:

Luke 5:39 No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better.

After Christ gives a person the Early Rain of the Spirit, they will remain spiritually blind, carnally minded and unconverted. In this condition, they will still prefer the Old Wine of man's works. It is only after Christ comes to the "babe" a second time and pours out the Latter Rain of the Spirit that they will finally prefer the New Wine and begin travelling the straight way.

Christ "typed" the conversion event of an Elect believer in the story below:

Luke 13:11 And, behold, there was a woman (Bride of Christ/Elect) which had a spirit of infirmity (man's marred & carnal spirit) eighteen years, and was bowed together, and could in no wise lift up herself (could provide no works for her salvation). 12 And when Jesus saw her, he called her to him (by giving her the Early Rain of the Spirit), and said unto her, Woman, thou art loosed from thine infirmity. 13 And he laid his hands on her (poured out the Latter Rain of the Spirit): and immediately she was made straight (faithful), and glorified God.

You would do well to believe the scriptures I posted.

God's Word says to call out to the Lord and He will show you mighty things that you do not know:

Jer 33:3 ‘Call to Me, and I will answer you, and show you great and mighty things, which you do not know.’

Truth comes from no other source - and certainly not from a person's supposed free will abilities and carnal reasoning.

Joe
 
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I fail every day, but am thankful that there is a way to get to God that's been made known to me, and that is by and through the Lord Yeshua.

Hebrews 4:16 So let us come boldly to the throne of our gracious God. There we will receive his mercy, and we will find grace to help us when we need it most.

 

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Thank you for commenting again, Faithwilldo.