If we pray and ask for forgiveness then are we forgiven no matter the sin? Also, is every sin just as bad as another sin ?

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For example, if i went and murdered someone or did something absolutely terrible to someone then all I have to do is pray about it real quick and then i’m forgiven? How is that fair in any way? What about those who was murdered? There life is over and I get to enjoy the rest of my life? I know that god doesn’t mean I can just go do whatever i want and pray and be forgiven but that’s basically what it says in the bible. Why would hell even be a place if all I have to do is pray about it and be forgiven? Also, how is me stealing a pack of bubble gum from the gas station the same seriousness sin as me getting drunk and hitting a family head on in a car crash killing them instantly… not saying i would ever do that im just using these as examples.
 

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Thank you for your question.

If you hurt someone, then a good Christian will want to make amends. For a slight, apologizing and asking forgiveness might be sufficient. For something more serious, doing right may take considerable more effort, time, and expense.

If what you have done is a crime, our justice system will swing into action and will dictate punishment, but you still need to make amends, apologize, and ask forgiveness.

When you hurt someone, you have sinned against God, and you must not just ask for forgiveness, but ask Him to help you repent and become a better person.

The good Christian will not hurt someone deliberately: that is central to our faith, and to loving God and our neighbors. Accidents can still happen; anger can trigger a nasty outburst. Jesus will be our advocate in judgement, but we will still be judged.

Peace.
 

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IF you are a Christian, God will intervene and prevent you from doing something., after all you are His child. If you just say you are a Christian because you attend church, you could still be in the mafia.
 

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IF you are a Christian, God will intervene and prevent you from doing something., after all you are His child. If you just say you are a Christian because you attend church, you could still be in the mafia.
God will prevent me from doing something? There’s good christian people that do stuff all the time they shouldn’t do
 

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For example, if i went and murdered someone or did something absolutely terrible to someone then all I have to do is pray about it real quick and then i’m forgiven? How is that fair in any way? What about those who was murdered? There life is over and I get to enjoy the rest of my life? I know that god doesn’t mean I can just go do whatever i want and pray and be forgiven but that’s basically what it says in the bible. Why would hell even be a place if all I have to do is pray about it and be forgiven? Also, how is me stealing a pack of bubble gum from the gas station the same seriousness sin as me getting drunk and hitting a family head on in a car crash killing them instantly… not saying i would ever do that im just using these as examples.
Look at my post #9 in your Dinosaur OP: Why did god put dinosaurs on earth and what was the point of that era of earth?
 

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God will prevent me from doing something? There’s good christian people that do stuff all the time they shouldn’t do
Good, God-fearing Christians do not do anything they shouldn't do. I say again, God fearing Christians. Do you fear God?
 

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When it comes to sin, the picture to see is that you have been forgiven of it already. Now what you go and do afterward is up to you. I still sin, but I don't make a practice to sin. I still get upset, angry, sometimes I lust. It's only by and through the strength of Christ that when temptations to satisfy my own nature, he provides a way out of not giving into those hateful thoughts, or lustful though, though they will happen because to say I am perfect would be a lie. If you are really 25, it was at the age of 26 I started seeking and its been 7 years later. When it comes down to sin, it's been taken care of by the Lord Yeshua, he was risen again by the holy spirit of God, and now we can live by the holy spirit/Spirit of Christ to have peace, mercy, kindness, forgiveness of others, joy, longsuffering. My encouragement would be for you to start reading the Bible starting in the New Testament, and perhaps you will learn more not only about yourself, but about Jesus, and many different things found in there. Here is a plan if you are curious to have something to go by and do because it has taken me years to understand many different concepts and what in founded in the bible.

Best of luck to you on your journey of looking to God. He loves you, and cares about you, and we are all responsible for what we do in our own lives, and we can't trick or cheat God.

P/s: The dates are off on this reading plan but it's a start if you ever wanted too!
 

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In God's test for sin we either pass or fail there are no grades. Accept Jesus - Pass. Reject Jesus - Fail.
 

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Hello @Pearl,

I like trying to convey a message with a biblical response, that is truthful. Founded in Galatians 6:7, Paul writes concerning God cannot be mocked. Galatians 6:7 Don’t be misled—you cannot mock the justice of God. You will always harvest what you plant. People can reap what they want to in the flesh of this life, or they can reap to the spiritual life which is more profitable. Paul wrote to Timothy in his first letter chapter 4:8 “Physical training is good, but training for godliness is much better, promising benefits in this life and in the life to come.” There is benefits to reaping to the spirit now in the life, and in the afterlife. As Jesus said "store up for yourselves treasures in heaven."

All the best.
 

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Hello @Pearl,

I like trying to convey a message with a biblical response, that is truthful. Founded in Galatians 6:7, Paul writes concerning God cannot be mocked. Galatians 6:7 Don’t be misled—you cannot mock the justice of God. You will always harvest what you plant. People can reap what they want to in the flesh of this life, or they can reap to the spiritual life which is more profitable. Paul wrote to Timothy in his first letter chapter 4:8 “Physical training is good, but training for godliness is much better, promising benefits in this life and in the life to come.” There is benefits to reaping to the spirit now in the life, and in the afterlife. As Jesus said "store up for yourselves treasures in heaven."

All the best.
Good point, @MatthewG . Reminds me of 1 Cor. 15:41-42's levels of post-resurrection glory.
 

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For example, if i went and murdered someone or did something absolutely terrible to someone then all I have to do is pray about it real quick and then i’m forgiven?

No matter the sin.........Jesus on The Cross has become this.. for the BELIEVER.

1.) "God hath made Jesus.. to BE SIN....for us"..

2.) "Jesus is the ONE TIME.... ETERNAL.......SACRIFICE...for sin".

This means that all sin for all time is dealt with, by JESUS's Sacrifice.... and God's justice is eternally satisfied.

And here is where the Believer's mind gets blown, as this is the part of "the Gift of Salvation" that offends the flesh and the self righteousness in a Believer.
And the truth is.. .the more prideful and self righteous you are, the more this will offend your point of view, and your opinion, that is your self righteousness, regarding your lack of understanding regarding God's "GIFT of Salvation."

Notice...

The born again are "not under the Law".. ."but under Grace".

That means, that the born again, have RECEIVED a finished salvation and eternal life....that is not based on how you behave.

And that offends the flesh........as the flesh wants to say...>>"""now look everyone... and see what im doing, so that i can say that God's Salvation, is partly based on ME ME ME ME".

See that? That is SELF Righteousness, that is denying Jesus full credit for saving you and keep you saved. And most Christian, have that "carnal mind" "in the flesh"..issue and want to fight about what they have to do, to stay saved and stay forgiven., so that they can take some CREDIT instead of Giving Jesus all the CREDIT due Him alone, for saving you and keeping you saved.

Now, a vital understanding regarding the finished work of Jesus on The Cross is it produced this for you.... = You are...."no longer under the LAW".

So....You have to understand what this means, as this revelation is how you find real faith for all time., and this revelation is simply that the Law can never again define your deeds as a sin, or define you as a sinner.

Why?
Because you are : "not under the law........but under GRACE"..


This means that the born again, CHRISTian, is always found here..


'""""""""""""""Where there is NO LAW.......there is no TRANSGRESSION""""""""">.

See that?
That is the "get that revelation" or you can't mature in Christ, and will always try to confess sin, to stay saved, you'll worry about "losing it".... and you'll not be able to get past ... Hebrews 6:1

Whereas..., when you come to the understanding of what it means to be "made free from sin"... "not under the Law"...You'll read 2 Corin 5:19 and Romans 4:8 and rejoice, because you'll finally understand your SALVATION.... Reader.
 

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Good, God-fearing Christians do not do anything they shouldn't do. I say again, God fearing Christians.
Bulls***. Nonsense. Unless you want to postulate that "good, God-fearing Christians" do not exist under the "there is none good but God" clause.
 
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What exactly does a God-fearing Christian have to fear from Him? Surely not retribution!
Proverbs 1:7 - The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, But fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Psalms 19:9 -The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever; The judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
Psalms 33:18 - Behold, the eye of the Lord is on those who fear Him, On those who hope in His mercy,
 

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Bulls***. Nonsense. Unless you want to postulate that "good, God-fearing Christians" do not exist under the "there is none good but God" clause.
Proverbs 10:27 - The fear of the Lord prolongs days, But the years of the wicked will be shortened.
 

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Bulls***. Nonsense. Unless you want to postulate that "good, God-fearing Christians" do not exist under the "there is none good but God" clause.
Hello @Lambano,

That is the thing, that word “fear” as into be fearful of God, was something the people of Israel was really under. They had blessings and cursings. Heck even one time Samuel was given a dream by God in which stated he was going to kill of the family which Samuel lived under. That priest said if it be so let it be. Either way, today “fear” would just mean to us in “awe” of Yahavahs wonders. Because we didn’t come to a mountain where Yahavah showed himself within lightings and thunders which instilled fear into those people at the time of Moses going up there as everyone else was to afraid to go and see. You’re right about what you are sharing, because today I don’t believe we should fear Yahavah as they did back then, but live in respect of his “awe”someness in allowing us the ability and freedoms we have today, he continuously gives us life as we wake up. The shared image is to drive home my point. While yes “the beginning of wisdom is fearing the LORD” it’s really the “awe”someness of himself which we become humble in Christ before him.

Sometimes I even tell God about my hatred and disdain for people to help me by the Holy Spirit to remain humble in and through the power of the Lord Yeshua and his Spirit which indwells those whom are of his.

“You have not come to a physical mountain, to a place of flaming fire, darkness, gloom, and whirlwind, as the Israelites did at Mount Sinai.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭12‬:‭18‬ ‭NLT‬‬

Today because of the Lord Yeshua, we can come to the LORD Yahavah, and pray about all things no matter how hard or difficult it may be to express, he most certainly can handle it.

“So then, since we have a great High Priest who has entered heaven, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to what we believe. This High Priest of ours understands our weaknesses, for he faced all of the same testings we do, yet he did not sin. So let us come boldly to the throne of our gracious God. There we will receive his mercy, and we will find grace to help us when we need it most.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4‬:‭14‬-‭16‬ ‭NLT‬‬

I don’t think we should ever be fearful about coming to God, he loves each and everyone of us after all and can handle our burdens and we can find rest in Yeshua.

“Then Jesus said, “Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you. Let me teach you, because I am humble and gentle at heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy to bear, and the burden I give you is light.””
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭11‬:‭28‬-‭30‬ ‭NLT‬‬
 

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Proverbs 1:7 - The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, But fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Psalms 19:9 -The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever; The judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
Psalms 33:18 - Behold, the eye of the Lord is on those who fear Him, On those who hope in His mercy,
Thanks for the quotes. Now, how about answering my question? Please be specific in telling me what God-fearing Christians have to fear from their God.