ONCE….ONCE….(OSAS)….ONCE!!!

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Is there a way that someone can know they are born again?

Yes.

Understand that being born again......means.......that God accepted your Faith in Christ...the moment you came to Jesus by Faith.. knowing that you are a sinner needed to be forgiven all your sin.

See that?

As that is the reason you need to be SAVED......... Its that ""'all have sinned, and there is none righteous, no not one"..

See that CONDITION of every human being?
God sent Jesus to The Cross to take care of that for you.........forever.

So, the answer is...... How can THAT ONE.. that SINNER... and GOD, become "reconciled" "reunited" ... whereby all your sin is forgiven and God can then take you and give you the "new birth" that is to be born again, "in Christ".. as "one with God'. ??

So, whoever is reading this... right now..

if you have never seen what i just showed you.....never understood this.......that led you to JESUS..then you have probably never heard the Gospel and have never obeyed it by Trusting in Christ..

Now, once you have understood your need of forgiveness, and you have gone to Christ for that Forgiveness...


Then on that day, in that moment, in your past.... God answered you, with SALVATION.. that is : "the Gift of Salvation".

Now.. do you have it?

You do, if you have understood why you needed it, and on that DAY .. in that moment, in YOUR PAST.... you went to Christ for Forgiveness.


A.) Do you have that moment in your Past where you understood why you go to Christ and you trusted in Him for your Forgiveness.. ??

If you do, then you are going to heaven.....you have received Forgiveness from God, and its eternal.

If you dont have this understanding, until Now..... then you are not Saved yet... so, in that case..

Now that you understand your need to be FORGIVEN all your SIN... .which is why you go to The Cross... to Trust in Christ... then..

= "now is the day of your Salvation.. now is the Accepted TIME">

Do it NOW...........because you do not know when HEBREWS 9:27 is coming for you.
 

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Yes.

Understand that being born again......means.......that God accepted your Faith in Christ...the moment you came to Jesus by Faith.. knowing that you are a sinner needed to be forgiven all your sin.

See that?

As that is the reason you need to be SAVED......... Its that ""'all have sinned, and there is none righteous, no not one"..

See that CONDITION of every human being?
God sent Jesus to The Cross to take care of that for you.........forever.

So, the answer is...... How can THAT ONE.. that SINNER... and GOD, become "reconciled" "reunited" ... whereby all your sin is forgiven and God can then take you and give you the "new birth" that is to be born again, "in Christ".. as "one with God'. ??

So, whoever is reading this... right now..

if you have never seen what i just showed you.....never understood this.......that led you to JESUS..then you have probably never heard the Gospel and have never obeyed it by Trusting in Christ..

Now, once you have understood your need of forgiveness, and you have gone to Christ for that Forgiveness...


Then on that day, in that moment, in your past.... God answered you, with SALVATION.. that is : "the Gift of Salvation".

Now.. do you have it?

You do, if you have understood why you needed it, and on that DAY .. in that moment, in YOUR PAST.... you went to Christ for Forgiveness.


A.) Do you have that moment in your Past where you understood why you go to Christ and you trusted in Him for your Forgiveness.. ??

If you do, then you are going to heaven.....you have received Forgiveness from God, and its eternal.

If you dont have this understanding, until Now..... then you are not Saved yet... so, in that case..

Now that you understand your need to be FORGIVEN all your SIN... .which is why you go to The Cross... to Trust in Christ... then..

= "now is the day of your Salvation.. now is the Accepted TIME">

Do it NOW...........because you do not know when HEBREWS 9:27 is coming for you.
And this means you believe in the P of Tulip which is also Pauline theology and given by God and pronounced in His Word! Congratulations!!! And I deeply appreciate your call for people to do it ASAP!

But MAKING THAT APPEAL HERE ON THE CHRISTIAN FORUM IS KIOND OF LIKE PREACHING TO THE CHOIR! yES THERE ARE SOME UNSAVED HERE (DON'T KNOW WHO BUT AS A BIBLICAL POINT). It would be much better if we could do this on secular threads where the vast crowd is unsaved.
 

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1 John 5:11 - And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and hat you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.

I knew when I was born again. Romans 8:16 - The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God.
Can you ever NOT be born again? Is being "born again" a permanent state?
 

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And this means you believe in the P of Tulip which is also Pauline theology

Calvin created the demonic lie that eventually became "the 5 points"

HyperCalvinism is a excessive evolution of Calvinism.

So, this is Satanic.......and the reason is............ Only Satan would deny That Jesus died for the "sin of the World'.. (John 3:16)

Only Satan will deny that "Jesus came into the world to save SINNERS"....... 1 Ti5m 1:15

Only Satan will try to prove, using a theology, that the Cross is "only for some"...

So, when a person LIMITS the Cross to "only some" then they are doing the devil's work.. as a minister by teaching that "doctrine of devils'... Hebrews 13:9.. (KJV).

Paul says that there are many of these mind blinded ministers of the Devil.

See, the Offer of The Cross of Christ is "to the WORLD", and demonic "TULIP" denies this, which proves that its not of God, and is truly a doctrine of Devils.
 

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Yes.

Understand that being born again......means.......that God accepted your Faith in Christ...the moment you came to Jesus by Faith.. knowing that you are a sinner needed to be forgiven all your sin.

See that?

As that is the reason you need to be SAVED......... Its that ""'all have sinned, and there is none righteous, no not one"..

See that CONDITION of every human being?
God sent Jesus to The Cross to take care of that for you.........forever.

So, the answer is...... How can THAT ONE.. that SINNER... and GOD, become "reconciled" "reunited" ... whereby all your sin is forgiven and God can then take you and give you the "new birth" that is to be born again, "in Christ".. as "one with God'. ??

So, whoever is reading this... right now..

if you have never seen what i just showed you.....never understood this.......that led you to JESUS..then you have probably never heard the Gospel and have never obeyed it by Trusting in Christ..

Now, once you have understood your need of forgiveness, and you have gone to Christ for that Forgiveness...


Then on that day, in that moment, in your past.... God answered you, with SALVATION.. that is : "the Gift of Salvation".

Now.. do you have it?

You do, if you have understood why you needed it, and on that DAY .. in that moment, in YOUR PAST.... you went to Christ for Forgiveness.


A.) Do you have that moment in your Past where you understood why you go to Christ and you trusted in Him for your Forgiveness.. ??

If you do, then you are going to heaven.....you have received Forgiveness from God, and its eternal.

If you dont have this understanding, until Now..... then you are not Saved yet... so, in that case..

Now that you understand your need to be FORGIVEN all your SIN... .which is why you go to The Cross... to Trust in Christ... then..

= "now is the day of your Salvation.. now is the Accepted TIME">

Do it NOW...........because you do not know when HEBREWS 9:27 is coming for you.
I would love to ask some follow-up questions, but I would like for your excellent call to stand for now; thanks for that.
 

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Is there a way that someone can know they are born again?

Different Churches Have Different Protocol's…

A Baptist Church for Example…
End of Sanctuary Service Preacher Announces An Offering For an Altar Call, to anyone Ready, Able, Willing To Dedicate their Life To CHRIST the Lord, before the Congregation of witnesses, may come Forward to the Altar.

Once there… they are instructed in Gods Order and Way, and what to Expect as their Consequence.

Can you answer With the Belief IN your Heart?
Yes? Call on The Lord’s Name and tell Him.

Are you Regretful for Having Had Disbelief?
Yes?
Tell The Lord you Repent.

Are you Freely Heartfully willing to Give you Life unto Death For The Lord?
Yes. Tell the Lord.

Congratulations…
You have accomplished The Lords Way…
Spoke to the Lord From your Hearts Belief…
Repented…
Given you Life unto Death For the Lords Sake.

Consequence…
*You have received the Holy Spirit within you.
* Your body has been Accounted Dead, given to The Lord, your Sin of unbelief Forgiven, Your Sin Covered, Remembered no more. Your body washed, cleansed, Sealed, Prepared to be Redeemed by The Lord, on a The Day He Raised your Body to meet Him in the Air.
* Your Living SOUL, has been RESTORED…(back to Vert Good) as it was when God gave it to You.
* Your Living Soul Shall forever Remain Alive …With The Lord God…(Called Saved)
* While you wait for your Body to be Risen, you shall occupy “Christ Jesus’ Risen Body…(Called IN Christ).
*He circumcised your heart ( cutting off the old natural truths…given you a new heart.)
* In your new Heart Gods Seed (Christ) has entered.
* That Seed has birthed you a New (spiritual spirit, that can never Die).
* The Holy Spirit of TRUTH, IN your New Spirit…shall FEED your New Spirit With Gods Truths.
* The Spirit POWER (Christ) and Spirit WISDOM (Christ) and Spirit TRUTH (Jesus) …Shall Remain IN you…Until your own spiritual body is Raised up.
* The Same Shall Remain “WITH” you , ONCE, NOW and FOR EVER.

* Nothing can Separate YOU From The Lord God or The Lord God From YOU.
* Never Again CAN you SIN (not Believe) Against The Lord God.

* You may be Hated by other men, you may be unjustly exposed to man caused tribulations …Nothing New “OF” this World.

* However while You Are “IN” this World…YOU ARE no longer “OF” This World…
* And for as Long as you Mortally Live “IN” this World…The Lord God will Comfort you Through Any Tribulations men cause.

*Be Of Good Cheer. Your Redemption is near, for the Lord to take you with Him.

*Meantime…you have The Word, Power, Authority To speak the Word of God to Any willing Listener.
* You have the Power to lend a hand, to aid another IN The Lord Gods Name…
To Which you Glorify God by such Works…
And The Lord God Shall Keep an Account of such works you Do to Glorify His Great Name…
And He Shall REWARD accordingly.

* FYI…works you Do, that Does “not” Glorify God?? Such works shall be burned.

Think yourself…lonely…party of one???
Not so…the Lord God is Always with you…and fully prepared to have A conversation with you, should you call on Him.

How Do YOU KNOW?

Only YOU and The Lord God KNOWS….IF YOU have Done these Things.

IF you Have…God is Faithful to Respond…
And it IS You who Trusts what is Unseen IN You Has been Done By The Lord God.

I gave An Organized Baptist Church Example.
If an individual is Alone…knows the Simple Way…They require no other humans presence… to call on the Lord God and Repent, and dedicate their Life unto death unto Him.

Glory to God,
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Different Churches Have Different Protocol's…

It's very telling that someone would look to what different churches say and not what God says in His Word. clueless-doh.gif


Can you ever NOT be born again? Is being "born again" a permanent state?

One can in fact become corrupt after having been born again.

Read Gal 6:7,8 and notice the Lord tells us if we sow to the flesh we shall of the flesh reap CORRUPTION

To say otherwise is mocking God which is what the OSAS peoples do as they claim one can sow to the flesh and not reap CORRUPTION which is in direct opposition to what the Lord says in His Word.

Galatians 6:7-8 (see Gen 8:22)
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

God gave man free will... if man chooses to turn and walk away from the Lord, God will let them do so.

Romans 1:28
they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do what ought not to be done

The gifts and callings of God are without repentance which means God cannot violate our free will and save us anyway IF we choose to go back to our sin which is living in darkness. In God there is NO darkness. (1 John 1:5)

This is a major biblical truth the OSAS crowd always explains away or denies is simply this... God is NOT mocked, what we sow is what we reap - if we sow to the flesh we shall of the flesh reap corruption. (Gal 6:7,8)

In Gal 6:8, the word corruption is...

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fthora from G5351; decay, i.e. ruin -- corruption

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strengthened from phthio (to pine or waste); properly, to shrivel or wither, i.e. to spoil or to ruin, by moral influences, to deprave): -- corrupt (self), defile, destroy.

If one claims we DO reap corruption when we sin, then they are admitting they do not believe OSAS / Eternal security doctrine (and sadly many of their friends will forsake them!).... and if one claims we DO NOT reap what we sow, then according to Gal 6:7, that would be mocking God!

Adam and Eve were given eternal life by the Lord when He created them... but when they sinned against God they became corrupt and died spiritually and became separated from God. So Gal 6:7,8 is quite the quandary, quite the state of uncertainty and perplexity for the adherents of the false OSAS doctrine.
 

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Can you ever NOT be born again? Is being "born again" a permanent state?
Unbelievers will remain NOT born again and being born again is a permanent state. 1 Peter 1:23 - having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever.
 
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Calvin created the demonic lie that eventually became "the 5 points"

HyperCalvinism is a excessive evolution of Calvinism.

So, this is Satanic.......and the reason is............ Only Satan would deny That Jesus died for the "sin of the World'.. (John 3:16)

Only Satan will deny that "Jesus came into the world to save SINNERS"....... 1 Ti5m 1:15

Only Satan will try to prove, using a theology, that the Cross is "only for some"...

So, when a person LIMITS the Cross to "only some" then they are doing the devil's work.. as a minister by teaching that "doctrine of devils'... Hebrews 13:9.. (KJV).

Paul says that there are many of these mind blinded ministers of the Devil.

See, the Offer of The Cross of Christ is "to the WORLD", and demonic "TULIP" denies this, which proves that its not of God, and is truly a doctrine of Devils.
So then you do not believe in teh persev erance pof the saints? Which in modern language is called "eternal security", Once saved always saved" etc.etc. Would like a simple yes or no answer.

Well even Calvin believed that Jesus is the propitiation for the sins of the w2orld.
1 John 2:2
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

I do not know of anyone who denies this biblical fact. but based on your writings, I am convinced that you do not know th edifference between propitiation and atonement.
So, when a person LIMITS the Cross to "only some" then they are doing the devil's work.. as a minister by teaching that "doctrine of devils'... Hebrews 13:9.. (KJV).
So do you believe every single person has had their sins removed from them then? Or do you believe that only the saved have had their sins removed from them? Which one?
See, the Offer of The Cross of Christ is "to the WORLD", and demonic "TULIP" denies this, which proves that its not of God, and is truly a doctrine of Devils.
And see I believe this as well. Jesus is the acceptable sacrifice (propitiation) for the sin of the world. that is why I have gone to four continents preaching the cross. For I do not know who will or who won't accept the gospel! So I have gone places allowed by god to sow the seeds of the gospel. He does the saving while we just do the sowing.

But do you accept that once saved always saved as you wrote above? If you do then you accept what Calvin,Paul, Luther, and millions of others havwe written. And you agree with what God has inspired.

But if you reject the P of TULIP which was not written by Calvin BTW then why do you accept the OSAS which is the same doctrine in differing language from differing ages?
 

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It's very telling that someone would look to what different churches say and not what God says in His Word. View attachment 55193

Very telling what Church Organizations…Teach and Do.

You have Option to verify any Church Organizations Teachings, Doctrines, Doings. With Gods Written Word.

One can in fact become corrupt after having been born again.

Patently FALSE.

Read Gal 6:7,8 and notice the Lord tells us if we sow to the flesh we shall of the flesh reap CORRUPTION

Corruption occurs ALL the Time between and among men and the consequences thereof forthwith By men…

What Does that Have TO DO with an Individuals formed and eternal bonded Relationship between ONE man and God?

To say otherwise is mocking God which is what the OSAS peoples do

Amazing…while you Mock and Deny Gods Offering And Some men accepting Gods Offering of a Secure ONE on ONE eternal relationship with God…..

Makes Gods Word and God Supreme Power, according to your Teaching, insignificant.

My ONE on ONE eternal Relationship With the Lord God…is Neither affected or dependent on you or Any other person.

So out of curiosity…
Do you Claim to Have Received the Lord Gods Gift of Salvation?
If So…How many Times did you receive that Gift?


Glory to God,
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Unbelievers will remain NOT born again and being born again is a permanent state. 1 Peter 1:23 - having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever.
I agree. Being born again is a permanent state. For the sake of my question, if you wouldn't mind answering, let's take for granted that being born again is a permanent change and that being born again guarantees eternal life. Is there a way that God can help me know, one way or the other, whether I, personally have experienced this change?
 
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One can in fact become corrupt after having been born again.
I have never heard that before. How is that possible?
Read Gal 6:7,8 and notice the Lord tells us if we sow to the flesh we shall of the flesh reap CORRUPTION
Does Paul offer two alternatives in that passage? Why do we suppose that both alternatives apply to the born-again person? Wouldn't the second alternative describe the born-again person?

This is a major biblical truth the OSAS crowd always explains away or denies is simply this... God is NOT mocked, what we sow is what we reap - if we sow to the flesh we shall of the flesh reap corruption. (Gal 6:7,8)
Isn't being born-again, by definition, sowing to the spirit? If so then, is Paul talking about born-again people who sow to the flesh?
 

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I agree. Being born again is a permanent state. For the sake of my question, if you wouldn't mind answering, let's take for granted that being born again is a permanent change and that being born again guarantees eternal life. Is there a way that God can help me know, one way or the other, whether I, personally have experienced this change?
2 Corinthians 5:17 - Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.

Those who have been born again have received a new nature, a divine nature, (2 Peter 1:4) and have new and different appetites and desires.

Love is presented in Scripture as being a consequence of being born again. (Romans 5:5; 1 John 4:7-11, 5:1)
 
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I have never heard that before. How is that possible?

Does Paul offer two alternatives in that passage? Why do we suppose that both alternatives apply to the born-again person? Wouldn't the second alternative describe the born-again person?

Isn't being born-again, by definition, sowing to the spirit? If so then, is Paul talking about born-again people who sow to the flesh?
In regard to Galatians 6:7-8, the one who is continuously (Greek present tense) sowing to his own corrupt flesh, which is opposed to God and unrenewed by the Holy Spirit shall of the flesh reap corruption. Our life here is sowing of one kind or another. But he who sows to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap everlasting life.

In regard to walking after the Spirit and not after the flesh in Romans 8, Paul sets up a CONTRAST between those who live according to the flesh (unbelievers/false brethren) and those who live according to the Spirit (believers). In verses 8-9, Paul clearly states - So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

Walking according to the Spirit is descriptive of children of God. Those who are habitually dominated by the sinful nature (unbelievers) put their minds on the things of the sinful nature, but those who are habitually dominated by the Spirit (believers) put their minds on the things of the Spirit.

Romans 8:13 - (AMP) - for if you are living according to the [impulses of the] flesh, you are going to die. But if [you are living] by the [power of the Holy] Spirit you are habitually putting to death the sinful deeds of the body, you will [really] live forever.
 

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In regard to Galatians 6:7-8, the one who is continuously (Greek present tense) sowing to his own corrupt flesh, which is opposed to God and unrenewed by the Holy Spirit shall of the flesh reap corruption. Our life here is sowing of one kind or another. But he who sows to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap everlasting life.

In regard to walking after the Spirit and not after the flesh in Romans 8, Paul sets up a CONTRAST between those who live according to the flesh (unbelievers/false brethren) and those who live according to the Spirit (believers). In verses 8-9, Paul clearly states - So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

Walking according to the Spirit is descriptive of children of God. Those who are habitually dominated by the sinful nature (unbelievers) put their minds on the things of the sinful nature, but those who are habitually dominated by the Spirit (believers) put their minds on the things of the Spirit.

Romans 8:13 - (AMP) - for if you are living according to the [impulses of the] flesh, you are going to die. But if [you are living] by the [power of the Holy] Spirit you are habitually putting to death the sinful deeds of the body, you will [really] live forever.
I agree. The New Testament contrasts are given in order to highlight the difference between those who walk by the Spirit and those who walk by the flesh. And the reason why some walk by the spirit instead of the flesh is because God has given them new birth and transformed them from the domain of darkness into the kingdom of Light.
 
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Very telling what Church Organizations…Teach and Do.

Follow what men think and say if you desire.

I'll follow what the Lord says in His Word.


Patently FALSE.

That's what the cherry pickers keep saying... those that don't accept the whole counsel of God claiming one can continue living in sin and still be in right standing with the Lord... the false "security in sin" doctrine taught by demons claiming to be speaking for the Lord laughing.gif




What Does that Have TO DO with an Individuals formed and eternal bonded Relationship between ONE man and God?

Uh huh, ask Adam and Eve what happens when you reject what God says in favor of the word of the devil.



Amazing…while you Mock and Deny Gods Offering

That you for confirming that you believe we do not reap what we sow... in direct opposition to the Lord saying in His Word that if one sows to the flesh they shall reap corruption.

This is the same message satan brought to Adam and Eve in the garden... one can disobey the Lord and stand in opposition to Him and they shall not be separated from the Lord.
The OSAS peoples (and the demons driving them) cannot explain away these Truths from the Word of the Lord...

Romans 11:21,22
For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.


2 Peter 2:20
For if after they have escaped the pollution of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

Romans 2:7-11
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
For there is no respect of persons with God.


James 1:22
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
(NOT in our own strength - see Philippians 4:13)

1 Peter 1:14-17
As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:


John 15:2
Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

Matthew 7:16-21
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.


John 8:35
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

James 5:19,20
Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.


Romans 8:14
Only those led by the Spirit are the sons of God



I have never heard that before. How is that possible?

Read... the scripture!



Why do we suppose that both alternatives apply to the born-again person?

Do you really believe Christians do not reap what they sow? Really???

If that's true, then we can all go back to openly living in sinful behavior and still be saved which is a trick and a trap of satan who is doing to people today what he did with Adam and Eve which is... no need to believe what the Lord says!



Isn't being born-again, by definition, sowing to the spirit?

By the same token... after one gets born again if they turn their back on the Lord to go engage in sinful behavior... they are in fact sowing to the flesh and they are in fact reaping corruption.

Romans 11:22
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 8:6
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Romans 8:13,14
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.


1 Corinthians 15:34
Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

1 John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.

2 Peter 2:14,15
Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;


Romans 6:1,2
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?



One must forsake their sin, con fess it to the Lord as sin, asking for forgiveness in order to be cleansed from their sin.

Only sins past have been forgiven

Romans 3:25
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Hebrews 10:26
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

This means if we sin after getting born again they are NOT automatically forgiven. We must confess to the Lord and forsake our sin in order to be forgiven of any new sins committed after getting born again.

Proverbs 28:13
He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

What is NOT be in God's Word is all future sins were automatically forgiven.

1 John 1:7
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Those walking in sinful behavior are NOT walking in the light so their sins are not cleansed because they are sinners!

1 Corinthians 15:34

Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.
 
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Follow what men think and say if you desire.

I'll follow what the Lord says in His Word.

As well do I follow the Lords approved teaching…while also verifying particular Church Doctrines of what they do teach.


That's what the cherry pickers keep saying... those that don't accept the whole counsel of God claiming one can continue living in sin and still be in right standing with the Lord... the false "security in sin" doctrine taught by demons claiming to be speaking for the Lord View attachment 55252

Cherry-picking…ya…notice that is intended to be taken as broad applicable Negative Concept….
But not For Me…

I have great RESPECT for men who HAVE heard, followed the Lords POSITIVE teachings…And Freely Made the Choice to ACCEPT the Lords OFFERING to Stand “WITH” and “IN” Christ who Overcame the World….THUS…nullifying the Bulk OF Negative Scriptures BEING applicable to one “Saved, Quickened, Accounted a New Creature… Sanctifi-ED IN Christ”

Yep Cherry-picking!!! You betcha…No need or cause to dwell or mull over what does no longer apply to me.


Uh huh, ask Adam and Eve what happens when you reject what God says in favor of the word of the devil.

Lol irrelevant nonsense…Adam is dead. I do not talk to the dead…nor ask silly questions that has nothing to do with me.

That you for confirming that you believe we do not reap what we sow...

Your GASLIGHTING Stunts your credibility to consider what you preach.

I made nor implied any such thing…

Gaslighter!

You would do well to not speak for others what they Do Not claim….and actually stand For something specific, rather than waste your energy on Gaslighting.

Glory to God,
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Cherry-picking…ya…notice that is intended to be taken as broad applicable Negative Concept….
But not For Me…

Those that keep telling themselves this do so to help keep their conscience seared to keep following the false OSAS doctrine


Lol irrelevant nonsense…


That's what the cherry pickers keep saying... those that don't accept the whole counsel of God claiming one can continue living in sin and still be in right standing with the Lord... the false "security in sin" doctrine taught by demons claiming to be speaking for the Lord
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Your GASLIGHTING....

Those that speak truth to expose the false doctrine of OSAS always claim those not brainwashed into following their fake gospel are "gaslighting"

Thanks for verifying the fear that you are walking in.
 

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“don't accept the whole counsel of God”

“can continue living in sin and still be in right standing with the Lord”

“the false "security in sin" doctrine taught by demons claiming to be speaking for the Lord”

“verifying the fear”



Thanks for Sharing your words,
And verifying your Standing.
 

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Thanks for Sharing your words,
And verifying your Standing.
Gaslighting and slander are common symptoms of those who suffer from a severe case of anti-OSAS derangement syndrome. :(

Those who erroneously interpret 1 John 1:9 to mean that we "must confess each and every sin that we commit as we commit them" (keep a specific inventory of every sin) as an "additional requirement" to "remain cleansed" and "if we forget a sin, we are toast" will typically misinterpret Romans 3:25 to mean that Jesus only forgives sins committed in the past but not all of our sins.

Notice that - "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" (1 John 1:9) is in contrast to - If we say that we have no sin, (present tense) we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (1 John 1:8) and - If we say that we have not sinned, (past tense) we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. (1 John 1:10)

Who could actually write an exhaustive list of every sin they have ever committed or ever will commit? Sin is not only missing the mark by what we do but also what we fail to do. (James 4:17)

Romans 3:25 (AMP) - whom God displayed publicly [before the eyes of the world] as a [life-giving] sacrifice of atonement and reconciliation (propitiation) by His blood [to be received] through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness [which demands punishment for sin], because in His forbearance [His deliberate restraint] He passed over the sins previously committed [before Jesus’ crucifixion].

This sheds light on what is meant by PAST sins. It does not mean that Jesus' death was ONLY for past sins or that ONLY our past sins are forgiven.

Acts 13:39 - and by Him everyone who believes is justified from all things from which you could not be justified by the law of Moses. :Thumbsup:

Further translations of Romans 3:25 read:

ESV - whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.

HCSB - God presented Him as a propitiation through faith in His blood, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His restraint God passed over the sins previously committed.

NASB - whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed.

NIV - God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished.

In regard to Hebrews 10:26, to "sin willfully" here carries the idea of deliberate intention that is habitual, which stems from rejecting Christ deliberately. This is continuous action, a matter of practice. Now we don't walk along our daily life and "accidentally" fall into a pit called sin. We exercise our will but, the use of the participle clearly shows continuous, willful, habitual action. The unrighteous practice sin (1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:19-21); not the righteous, who are born of God. (1 Corinthians 6:11; 1 John 3:9)

By the time we all the way down to verse 39, the writer of Hebrews points out a very important contrast - But "WE" are not of those who draw back to perdition, but "OF THOSE" who believe to the saving of the soul. Those who draw back to perdition do not believe to the saving of the soul and those who believe to the saving of the soul do not draw back to perdition. So, those who draw back to perdition and do not believe to the saving of the soul were not born-again Christians.

In regard to 1 John 1:7, believers were (past tense) once/formerly darkness but are now light in the Lord and we are to walk as children of light. (Ephesians 5:8) *Walking in darkness is descriptive of children of the devil. Walking in the light is 'descriptive' of children of God.

Only those who are saved/believers are in the light.

Acts 26:18 - to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me.

2 Corinthians 6:14 - Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?

1 Thessalonians 5:4 - But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief.

1 John 1:6 - If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.

In 1 John 2:9, we read - He who says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness until now. In vs. 11 - But he who hates his brother is in darkness and walks in darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.

*Compare with 1 John 3:10 - In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, (compare with 1 John 1:6 - does not practice the truth) nor is he who does not love his brother.

*Notice that walks in darkness, hates his brother is 'descriptive' of children of the devil.

Folks who end up misinterpreting scripture for the sake of accommodating a preconceived or biased held view really need to start being honest and learn how to read scripture in context and properly harmonize scripture with scripture before reaching their conclusion on doctrine. More exegesis and less eisegesis.
 
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