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The Scriptural Marks of True Israel
There are at least 95 Scriptural “birth-marks” describing the TRUE people Israel, by which to identify them during the latter days. Since ALL Bible prophecy concerns Israel, it’s critically important to be able to positively identify them; otherwise the prophecies are impossible to understand.
1) God’s Promise to David About the Davidic Throne of Israel:
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A PROMISE was made by our Creator to king David, that he would never lack a man to sit on the throne of Israel, until Shiloh/Christ’s Second-Coming (Gen. 49:10; 22-24).
Jeremiah 33:17-21
33:17 For thus saith the “I AM”; David shall never want (lack) a man(A) to sit upon the throne of the House of Israel;
33:18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want (lack) a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.
33:19 And the Word of the “I AM” came unto Jeremiah, saying,
33:20 Thus saith the “I AM”; If ye can break My Covenant of the day, and My Covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;
33:21 [Then] may also My Covenant be broken with David My servant, that he should not have a son [or daughter] to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, My ministers.
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British Coronation Chair with the Stone of Destiny, Jacob’s Pillar Stone.
1 Chronicles 7:10-14
17:10 And since the time that I commanded judges [to be] over My people Israel. Moreover I will subdue all thine enemies. Furthermore I tell thee that the “I AM” will build thee an house.
17:11 And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go [to be] with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom.
17:12 He shall build Me an house, and I will stablish his throne for ever.
17:13 I will be his father, and he shall be My son: and I will not take My mercy away from him, as I took [it] from [him] that was before thee:
17:14 But I will settle him in Mine house and in My kingdom for ever: and his throne shall be established for evermore.
2 Chronicles 1:9 Now, O “I AM” God, let Thy promise unto David my father be established: for Thou hast made me king over a people like “the dust of the earth” in multitude (Gen. 28:14; Gen. 48:19).
2 Chronicles 7:18 Then will I stablish the throne of thy kingdom, according as I have Covenanted with David thy father, saying, There shall not fail thee a manA [to be] ruler IN Israel.
Psalm 89:3-4
89:3 I have made a Covenant with My chosen, I have sworn unto David My servant,
89:4 Thy seed will I establish for ever, and build up thy throne to ALL generations. The rock.
Psalm 89:34-36
89:34 My Covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.
89:35 Once have I sworn by My holiness that I will not lie unto David.
89:36 His seed shall endure for ever, and his throne as “the sun” before me.
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Psalm 132:10-11
132:10 For Thy servant David’s sake turn not away the face of Thine anointed.
132:11 The “I AM” hath sworn [in] Truth unto David; He will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.
(see also: 2 Sam. 7:12-17; 2 Sam. 22:51; 2 Sam. 23:5; 2 Chron. 13:5; 2 Chron. 21:7; 2 Chron. 23:3)
(A)NOTE: Not that long ago, it was still standard practice to refer to the human race (men and women) collectively as “mankind”. So this promise to David—that one of his descendants (male or female – “his seed”, “house” or “the fruit of his body”) would sit on the throne of Israel until Shiloh/Christ comes – does not preclude female descendants from fulfilling that prophecy (reference/case precedent in The Law: Num. 27:1-11).
This single prophecy leaves no doubt that there has NEVER been a time since the reign of king David when there wasn’t one of his descendants to SIT on the Throne of David. This also automatically reduces the possibilities for the people Israel to a single monarchy.
It therefore follows that a careful search through the current monarchies of this world would be the most logical place to begin one’s search for the “lost” tribes of Israel, to see if one monarchy fits the scriptural descriptions we’ve been given. Please see the following links for lists of the world’s surviving monarchies.
8 Oldest Monarchies in the World
List of Current Monarchies
List of current monarchs of sovereign states
Please note well in the second link (List of Current Monarchies) that out of the 44 current monarchies in the world today, 16 of them are under the British rule.
The Truth About the British Monarchy
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Please also note well that NONE of the other current monarchs rule over multiple sovereign states.
This is critically important, because with just one more Biblical prophecy, the Throne of David, and thus the TRUE people Israel, can be easily and positively identified.
What are you talking about please?Unfortunately, that all flies in the face of Jesus' claim, saying “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill" (Matthew 5:17). Thus, becoming part of the "lie" foretold by Paul (2 Thessalonians 2:11).
What are you talking about please?
The British and the Commonwealth countries, etc. have fulfilled dozens and dozens of Scriptural prophecies spoken by the Prophets describing the true people Israel during the latter days, and the British Coat of Arms bears numerous Israelite symbols (as does the American Coat of Arms).
And 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 is specifically speaking about the pope and the Roman Catholic church.
Even Jesus' own prophecies specifically provide a mission statement that is often overlooked:
Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the "lost sheep" of the "House of Israel" (the Ten "Lost" Tribes of Israel).
This is why I never care for someone just posting a reference without posting the verse itself.9) Israel SHALL become “the empire upon which the ‘sun’ never sets” (Psalm 89:36).
This theology sounds like the Hebrew roots movement.
What is the Hebrew Roots movement? | GotQuestions.org
Not true. Jesus specifically sent His Disciples to the 10-tribed "House of Israel" after the 2-tribed "House of Judah" rejected Him (and manipulated the Roman government into crucifying Jesus).In the simplest of terms, Jesus came for the house of Israel, finished/fulfilled, and then went on to the other fold of the gentiles which He must also bring. Thus, all that remains of the house of Israel is the bloodline that Jesus finished with, a bloodline not elect for salvation among the dead in Christ. Going forward was and is only of the living in Christ born again of the spirit of God, born out of every bloodline and nation.
2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 refers to the "lie" that was believed and is still taught, contrary to the promises of Christ that were to "shortly take place", "soon".
People have come up with all sorts of names for various sects, cults, denominations, etc., instead of simply looking at what the Bible actually says, and promoting ITS Truth.This theology sounds like the Hebrew roots movement.
What is the Hebrew Roots movement? | GotQuestions.org
Not true. Jesus specifically sent His Disciples to the 10-tribed "House of Israel" after the 2-tribed "House of Judah" rejected Him (and manipulated the Roman government into crucifying Jesus).
Matthew 10:5-6
10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go NOT into the way of the Gentiles, and into [any] city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the "House of Israel".
Paul was the one later assigned to bring the gospel to the Gentiles (the uncircumcised):
Galatians 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me (Paul - see vs. 1:1), as [the gospel] of the circumcision [was] unto Peter;
And with regard to 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12, please see it below:
2 Thessalonians 2:3-12
2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of The Destroyer (Lucifer - Satan);
2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in The Temple of God, showing himself that he is God (the Holy Father).
2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
2:7 For the mystery (Rev. 17:5) of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way.
2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the [Sword of the] Spirit from his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness [of the enlightening] of his coming (Matt. 24:27):
2:9 [Even the Wicked], whose coming is the work of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of The Truth, that they might be saved.
2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion*, that they should believe a lie:
2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not The Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
What is part of the lie???Unfortunately, that all flies in the face of Jesus' claim, saying “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill" (Matthew 5:17). Thus, becoming part of the "lie" foretold by Paul (2 Thessalonians 2:11).
Paul is not referencing the Garden account in 2 Thessalonians 2Yes, but to clarify, the falling away was the fall, after which all born of women were condemned to perish, lest the take also of the true of Life.