X-mas makes a mockery of Christ

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Something is only pagan/christian if you do it as such. Decorating a tree is only pagan if you are pagans and it’s only a ritual if it’s part of idol worship. Otherwise, it’s just decorating a tree. Ritualistic pagan worship is what was being called out, not decorating.
You can keep telling yourself that lie if you wish, but it will never make it true.

If someone claims they know "the reason for the season" and then puts up a X-mas tree, pretends Satan Claus is bringing their children gifts and encourages others to lie about it "for the children", then they are very obviously liars.

We have all carried on these satanic, man-made traditions far too long. The only way they stop is when we take personal responsibility for our own actions instead of making excuses for them.

Matthew 15:7-9
15:7 [Ye] hypocrites, well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying,
15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with [their] lips; but their heart is FAR from me.
15:9 But in vain they do worship Me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men (man-made legislation, rules, doctrines, traditions, etc., all of which make the Commandments of God of no effect).
 

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For those who may feel it is too harsh to share the truth about the PAGAN roots of X-mas/X-mass, please consider the alternative:

Hatefully say nothing to others as they steadily march toward their own destruction in The Fire, on Judgment Day.

It's well-understood that the worldly tradition of "Christmas" is celebrated by many with seemingly good intentions. But that doesn't make it right, nor does it make it Godly. The road to hell-fire is paved with seemingly good intentions.

If someone can point out in The Law that God gave us, or in the Gospel accounts of Jesus where it instructs us to conduct such traditions, then we would have a basis for doing such things. Instead, we find a condemnation of such practices, which is conveniently ignored by those who couldn't care less.
 

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Its the commercialism that has taken over buy spend and consume.Its all about presents for most people Jesus is though about very little.I can do without it and simply have a good family meal on Christmas and I am satisfied.We switched to only children get gifts many years ago its about family now.No one feels any pressure to purchase anymore we watch the kids open their presents and enjoy that.No need to waste all that money your being pushed to do it.Business relies on this holiday for huge profits and just pounds the ads at you to purchase and its very successful.

Let me ask you if you did not receive a present would it ruin your Christmas?
 

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You can keep telling yourself that lie if you wish, but it will never make it true.

If someone claims they know "the reason for the season" and then puts up a X-mas tree, pretends Satan Claus is bringing their children gifts and encourages others to lie about it "for the children", then they are very obviously liars.

We have all carried on these satanic, man-made traditions far too long. The only way they stop is when we take personal responsibility for our own actions instead of making excuses for them.

Matthew 15:7-9
15:7 [Ye] hypocrites, well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying,
15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with [their] lips; but their heart is FAR from me.
15:9 But in vain they do worship Me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men (man-made legislation, rules, doctrines, traditions, etc., all of which make the Commandments of God of no effect).
I’ll be honest. Sometimes with the first few sentences I can tell a post is so stupid the rest is not worth reading. I’m going to check the climate post, and based off of that I’ll decide if I even want to see your comments. I find social media is better by ignoring stupidity. All about those with different opinions, but they have to be smart.

Ahhh. So you are educated more so than the majority I have met in here in your ability to understand science. So just a legalist who sees demons under every rock. So while i probably won’t read much of your theology stuff if it’s based around legalism at least you are literate about environmentalism and so worth keeping not ignoring on my end.

Still not going to read the rest of this post though
 

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no mathew , i am sorry and must stop you at even your first sentence . YOU DO NOT LOVE what is written within .
IF YOU DID you would have never brought that post of unbelief . You dont even know much at all of what is written
within that bible . at best and at most you know only WHAT MEN TAUGHT and your own mind accepts .
I been watching you . You sound like ophra wimphrey . YOU DO NOT LOVE what is written within that bible
YOU LOVE what men twisted out of it TO YOU . a fact . A fact friend . now bible up for YOU .
@amigo de christo
Seems to be the latest craze for those that hate reading the Bible. They call it “Bible worship”. No it’s not. They just don’t like the truth because they love their sins and don’t want to give them up.
 

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I’ll be honest. Sometimes with the first few sentences I can tell a post is so stupid the rest is not worth reading. I’m going to check the climate post, and based off of that I’ll decide if I even want to see your comments. I find social media is better by ignoring stupidity. All about those with different opinions, but they have to be smart.

Ahhh. So you are educated more so than the majority I have met in here in your ability to understand science. So just a legalist who sees demons under every rock. So while i probably won’t read much of your theology stuff if it’s based around legalism at least you are literate about environmentalism and so worth keeping not ignoring on my end.

Still not going to read the rest of this post though
yeah like posts that support a fourteen year old girl having a double masectomy trying to become something she never can be , a man .
Pretty darn insane i must agree .
 
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yeah like posts that support a fourteen year old girl having a double masectomy trying to become something she never can be , a man .
Pretty darn insane i must agree .
@amigo de christo
Oh gosh. What a wicked man he is to support that. Better repent and get into his bible before the Day of the Lord.
 
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Ya know,
Every year I make 1,000 chocolate truffles all hand dipped. At least a dozen varieties.

Cookies,
Another 1K baked and at least 7 different types. And I give these out as Christmas gifts. All bad for your waistline. All sweets and horrible for diabetics.
But nobody has complained yet when they receive an unexpected gift in the spirit of Christmas. All made by me in my kitchen.

There is not a soul I know (even Muslims) that do not know Who I worship and believe owns my soul.
 

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Christ-mass/X-mass is the most materialistic event on the calendar.
While I agree on the message of your post, the website you post from including your links to Scripture passages gives me the creeps. It has horrible subjects like -

Discover The Truth about God's Holy Koran in this special Koran Page which contains all the information to prove that His Holy Koran and His Holy Bible, when interpreted correctly, are in perfect harmony and are in actual fact volumes of The One Book from The One Author, as The LORD our God is One and all of man-kind should be.

Are you aware of that?
 

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While I agree on the message of your post, the website you post from including your links to Scripture passages gives me the creeps. It has horrible subjects like -

Discover The Truth about God's Holy Koran in this special Koran Page which contains all the information to prove that His Holy Koran and His Holy Bible, when interpreted correctly, are in perfect harmony and are in actual fact volumes of The One Book from The One Author, as The LORD our God is One and all of man-kind should be.

Are you aware of that?
Its the working of intefaith which is of anti christ . it has come to in the name of its father to spout the lie that merges
the decieved to be as one . Sure am happy you spotted that my friend . We have nothing in common with darkness .
What does light and darkness have in common . Nothing .
 
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The following excerpt is from:


4. Ho-ho-ho.​


Merry Christ-mas! It’s the most wonderful time of the year (sing along if you know the words), when we celebrate Santa and reindeer and Christ-mas trees and Christ-mas lights and Christ-mas decorations and presents and ski trips and drinking and stuffing our faces at Christ-mas parties. Deck the halls. Jingle bells.

What in the world does any of this have to do with the birth of Jesus?

Ask any Christian and they’ll probably tell you that despite the central role Santa plays in all of this ‘holiday cheer’, they know the real reason for the season. Don’t we all?


MATERIALISM.

Christ-mass/X-mass is the most materialistic event on the calendar. Advertising and peer pressure has people spending money they don’t have on things they don’t need, to impress people they don’t know. THAT is what X-mass is all about and the real reason for the silly season. The supposed birthday of Jesus was simply added to indoctrinate and incorporate Christians into these overtly pagan/heathen Yuletide/Saturnalia traditions and promote materialism. X-mass/Yuletide/Saturnalia and the birth of Jesus are, by their very nature, mutually exclusive.

Matthew 6:24 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and materialism.

X-mass teaches people to tell lies, and worse yet, it manipulates us to perpetuate these lies “for the good of the children”. And if any should refuse to teach, train and spoil their children into being selfish and materialistic liars like themselves, they face the wrath and judgment of the evil majority (Exod. 23:2) who consider themselves to be St. Nick’s best friend and personal defenders.

From a very early age, children are fed the LIE that there is a jolly old man in a red suit named Santa [Ni]Claus (old St. Nick/Nicolas) who, in a single night, flies around the world in a sled pulled by flying reindeer (one with a red nose that lights the way), landing on people’s rooftops undetected before forcing his obese, jelly-like exterior through the chimney and leaving all of these wonderful gifts under the X-mass tree strung with gold and silver tinsel. As ridiculous as this story sounds, even to children, they are told if they do not believe in Santa he won’t come and leave them any presents. How can children believe anything their parents tell them after finding out Santa is a lie?

We are training our children to believe in lies and that it’s fun to repeat them.

The name “Santa” is a very obvious anagram for Satan, who is the father/inventor of LIES [John 8:35 (John 8:44 KJV)] and he is laughing at us all (ho-ho-ho) for falling for his X-mass con job. No wonder Christ HATES X-mass.

Revelation 2:6, 15
2:6
But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes (followers of Santa [Ni]-Claus - Yuletide, Easter [Ishtar - a goddess of fertility - eggs a symbol of fertility] etc.),which I also hate.
2:15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the followers of St. [Ni]-Claus (Yuletide), which thing I hate.

So how can so-called Christians do this to Christ? Celebrating a lie, and teaching your children to do the same is patently evil, which is why Christ (the Truth) condemns the pagan tradition of the X-mass/Yuletide/Saturnalia, which honors Satan/Santa, NOT the supposed birth of Jesus. Does anyone really believe that the Lamb of God was born in the dead of Winter? Lambs are born in the Spring, the season of REBIRTH.

In the year 7 B.C. there was a conjunction of Jupiter (the king of the planets) and Saturn (thought to be the protector of Israel) in the Constellation of Pisces (the Sign of the Messiah), as computed in 1603 by the Astronomer Royal in Prague – Johannes Kepler, that was first visible at daybreak on the 12th of April 7 B.C. (Passover in 7 B.C. was on Monday April 13th which commenced at sundown on the 12th). The earth-shattering significance of this conjunction – Messiah; King; Protector of Israel; Passover – would have been unmistakable to the Levitical Druid astronomers (wise men) in the British Isles, where the monarch was also the Archdruid.

Matthew 2:1-6
2:1
Now when Jesus had been born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men (druids) to the East to Jerusalem,

2:2 Saying, Where is he that has been BORN King of the Jews? for we saw his “Star” in the East, and are come to worship him.
2:3 When Herod the king had heard [these things], he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.
2:4 And when he had gathered all the chief priests and lawyers of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.

2:5 And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
2:6 And thou Bethlehem, [in] the land of Judah, art not the least among the princes of Judah: for out of thee shall come a Governor (of this prison planet), that shall rule My people Israel.

Jesus (Saviour) was born in the Spring, in Bethlehem of Judaea, at the time of the Passover (when the lamb’s blood saved us by causing the angel of death to passover) NOT on the pagan Yuletide/Christmas, during the season of death. Celebrating the heathen Yuletide/Saturnalia began shortly after the flood (Gen. 10:8-9), and had been going on for thousands of years before the birth of Jesus.

Jeremiah 10:1-4
10:1
Hear ye the Word which the “I AM” speaketh unto you, O House of Israel:
10:2 Thus saith the “I AM”, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
10:3 For the customs of the people [are] vain: for [one] cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.


Spreading lies and continuing to do that thing which Christ hates is a sure-fire way to burn (Rev. 21:8).
Do yourself a favor and don't celebrate. Go to work and complain when no one complains with you.
 

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So how can so-called Christians do this to Christ? Celebrating a lie, and teaching your children to do the same is patently evil, which is why Christ (the Truth) condemns the pagan tradition of the X-mass/Yuletide/Saturnalia, which honors Satan/Santa, NOT the supposed birth of Jesus. Does anyone really believe that the Lamb of God was born in the dead of Winter? Lambs are born in the Spring, the season of REBIRTH.

This argument comes up EVERY year. A couple of points... Christmas was celebrated by Christians by at least 200 A.D., if not earlier. Jesus was likely not born on December 25th, and the reasoning for it was not biblical, but it had nothing to do with paganism (See here for an explanation). There is little evidence that Sol Invictus was celebrated on December 25th before Christianity came along. More than likely, the pagans hijacked December 25th to compete with Christianity.

Santa Claus likely originates from Saint Nicholas of Myra, although the inclusion of Santa Claus as part of Christmas is relatively recent. Dutch settlers brought their tradition of Sinterklaas, a shortened form of Saint Nicholas (Sint-Nicolaas) in Dutch, to the American colonies in the 17th to 18th centuries. The name "Santa Claus" first appeared in American print in the late 18th century. The modern look of Santa as a jolly old man in a red and white suit was actually invented by Coca-Cola.

It's true that the modern version of Christmas has been heavily commercialized and secularized. That doesn't change the fact that it was created to commemorate the birth of Jesus. It's how we choose to celebrate Christmas that matters. If someone chooses not to celebrate Christmas, well, that's their prerogative. But the idea that we shouldn't celebrate it because we got it from the pagans isn't true. Here's a video that explains it better than I can:

 
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There are Christmas Trees in Syria.....even during their latest bout of Civil War.

They are the oldest location for celebrating Christmas. (Where the Early church went to and Disciples went)

Those who claim its all wrong and everyone is doing things wrong are simply destroyers....they build nothing, they create nothing, they value nothing. They most certainly have no real attitude of gratitude about anything.
Even a toddler can destroy. It takes grown upside to build.
That's not a person to follow.
 

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There are Christmas Trees in Syria.....even during their latest bout of Civil War.

They are the oldest location for celebrating Christmas. (Where the Early church went to and Disciples went)
This is extremely loose and shaky ground to justify doing what God says not to do (doing as the pagans do).
 
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This is extremely loose and shaky ground to justify doing what God says not to do (doing as the pagans do).
Hi Tee!
What do you think of this verse from Jeremiah?

Jeremiah 10:3-4
"Jeremiah 10:3-4 in the Bible states that people cut down trees and shape them into idols with silver and gold. They fasten them securely with hammer and nails so they won't totter"

Over the last decade, I've not done much if any decoration. Christmas day brings back sad memories and it is all way too pagan IMHO.
xox
 
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This is extremely loose and shaky ground to justify doing what God says not to do (doing as the pagans do).
What if the Pagans are doing EXACTLY as the Early Church did....and all the finger waggers are wrong?
 

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What if the Pagans are doing EXACTLY as the Early Church did....and all the finger waggers are wrong?
Can you prove the early church cut down Christmas trees and decorated them to celebrate Jesus' birth ....even though He wasn't born December 25th (nor the Hebrew equivalent) and they knew and walked with Him and knew His actual birthdate???
 

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Hi Tee!
What do you think of this verse from Jeremiah?

Jeremiah 10:3-4
"Jeremiah 10:3-4 in the Bible states that people cut down trees and shape them into idols with silver and gold. They fasten them securely with hammer and nails so they won't totter"

Over the last decade, I've not done much if any decoration. Christmas day brings back sad memories and it is all way to pagan IMHO.
xox
This is very brief, and not very thorough. But it gives some of the pagan roots of the Christmas tree.
 
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