Hello @ScottA,
This reminds me of what Paul stated; when he wrote to the people at Colossae,
X-mas makes a mockery of Christ
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Hello @ScottA,
This reminds me of what Paul stated; when he wrote to the people at Colossae,
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Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal... Also in 1 Kings 19
Hello @rockytopva,
Yep, people who chose not to bow to the human rules of those who worshiped Baal, this reminds me of Daniel.
Daniel 3
It's interesting that people will set up rules, by nature of the flesh, and that are not of the Spirit to me @rockytopva. Anyone who disagrees with them, are simply anathema to them, as though they are people who are not of faith. That is a big issue that I see in most "religious circles."
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My favorite author is John Bunyan and current favorite speaker Zac Poonen... Who were/are both non conformest in ways...
I don't know John Bunyan, but Zac Poonen, I had an attachment to him for a little small while. You can see in the Bible Study Section, I shared a video of whom I typically listen to when it comes to bible study. Not many people really like him, but his teaching today was really good therefore I shared it. I don't see it wrong to listen and hear people out, when it comes to aspects of the bible, for me I just like to stick to the truth as close as possible. Thank you for your mentions today, it's been a minute since reading Daniel, and I would like to read the whole New Testament in 3 months again, I got a little helper to keep track. The dates are a bit off but that is okay.
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One cannot continue to do evil (sin) and pretend that doing evil is somehow good (Isa. 5:20-21).
Logically, the only way to make this world less evil is to stop sinning/doing evil to one another. Contrary to popular (and mistaken) belief, we aren't going to be rewarded for being criminals.
1 John 3:4-11
3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also The Law: for sin is the transgression of The Law.
3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our (past) sins; and in him is no sin.
3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he (Christ) is righteous.
3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the Beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever DOETH NOT righteousness is NOT of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the Beginning (Alpha), that we should love one another.
Exactly backwards, yet again. A man's actions (the fruit of his labor) always tell what is in his heart and mind.
Matthew 7:16-20 (with the words of Christ-Jesus in blue)
7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into The Fire.
7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Hello @A Freeman,
If a person doesn’t love. That’s bad fruit. Even if a person has all the faith in the world, and still, does not love. That’s bad fruit.
I’ve read the Bible enough to understand these things without the need of quoting the Bible. If you just want to do that; by all means. It doesn’t make any difference to me personally, and I love you; nonetheless, and hope the best for you.
Even so now I’ve been reading Daniel cause I’m bored and have nothing else better to do; but I’m not better than anyone on this website I’ll tell you that.
God looks at peoples hearts; not the outside of man like people typically do.
If a person doesn’t love. That’s bad fruit. Even if a person has all the faith in the world, and still, does not love. That’s bad fruit.
I’ve read the Bible enough to understand these things without the need of quoting the Bible. If you just want to do that; by all means. It doesn’t make any difference to me personally, and I love you; nonetheless, and hope the best for you.
Even so now I’ve been reading Daniel cause I’m bored and have nothing else better to do; but I’m not better than anyone on this website I’ll tell you that.
God looks at peoples hearts; not the outside of man like people typically do.
Just to be clear it’s Jesus in and through us whom loves; giving people the ability to love the Father and to love their neighbor as themselves, by and through his strength and not our own.
People bash people celebrating Halloween and I’ll be honest a good scary movie; is well; thrilling. People bash on people celebrating Christmas Eve acting like Ebenezer Scrouge; I may as well go take all my mothers Christmas decorating interior and exterior down cause she does that she must be worshiping Satan.
It’s really ridiculous how people treat others in the name of God… of the Father whom loved everyone so much he gave his only begotten son, who willingly died on behalf of them in order that people can choose to come to him or not. Their sins are forgiven, whether or not he is the one on the throne of their heart despite celebrating a holiday is only something that the Father whom has adopted his children can truly see.
All the best!
People bash people celebrating Halloween and I’ll be honest a good scary movie; is well; thrilling. People bash on people celebrating Christmas Eve acting like Ebenezer Scrouge; I may as well go take all my mothers Christmas decorating interior and exterior down cause she does that she must be worshiping Satan.
It’s really ridiculous how people treat others in the name of God… of the Father whom loved everyone so much he gave his only begotten son, who willingly died on behalf of them in order that people can choose to come to him or not. Their sins are forgiven, whether or not he is the one on the throne of their heart despite celebrating a holiday is only something that the Father whom has adopted his children can truly see.
All the best!
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I only spoke of celebrating the Lord. Why do you seem to consider good evil against those who celebrate the Lord? To do so, is to stand in judgement.
ScottA
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God gave us His Law, which is the sole/soul criteria that will be used to judge us all. So the judgments you are attempting to argue against are God's, not mine.
ScottA
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Excerpt below from:
CHRIST'S OPINION of SANTA CLAUS and YULETIDE, as expressed by HIS ANGEL, to HIS APOSTLE JOHN, in THE APOCALYPSE, Chapter 2.
Xmas has absolutely nothing to do with God. It was originally called Yuletide, which is a pagan festival from the Babylonian Mystery religion of SUN worship. The Babylonians were merchants (they were the originators of the "Market-system" which is condemned by God) and they used Yuletide to sell their merchandise because, like today, it made them lots of money. Then in the first century A.D. Simon (the Sorcerer) Pater (NOT Peter) stole the name christian, mixed it with the Babylonian Mystery religion and formed a new religion called christianity, that teaches the opposite of what Christ taught, and has SUNdays as its sabbath days, due to its SUN-god worshipping origins (Galatians 1:6-9; 2:4). Simon Pater NOT Simon Peter (Cephas) started the fake religion called "christianity" (Acts 8:9-25). Christ's TRUE followers or disciples called themselves "Followers of The Way" or "Those True to The Covenant" (Nazrim ha-Brit), NOT christians.
SUNday is the FIRST day of the week, NOT the Sabbath which is the SEVENTH day; on which God rested. This "so-called" christianity perverted the teachings of Christ and incorporated their pagan rituals, in their temples, which have as their focal point a "Tower of Babel" (from which the word Babylon is derived) in which were babbling-bells. This is directly opposed to the true teaching of Christ who says that YOU must NOT go to church (Matthew 6:5-6 where synagogue means all churches). They also hijacked the virgin-birth and moved it from April to December 25th to coincide with their own Yuletide festival, which Christ says he HATES, in the Holy Bible, in Apocalypse/Revelation 2:6, 15, where the Nicolaitanes, whose doctrine Christ hates, are the followers of Santa (Ni)-Claus, who celebrate Yuletide (and Easter [Ishtar] a god of fertility - eggs are the symbol of fertility not crucifixion).
Verse 6: But this thou hast (in thy favour), that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes which I (Christ) ALSO HATE.
Verse 15: So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes (the followers of St.Nicholas - Santa Claus), which thing I (Christ) HATE.
The Nicolaitans celebrate Yule-tide (Christmas now) and Santa Claus (st. Nicholas) and decorate trees with silver, which thing Christ HATES, because it is Satanic and NOT from God or Christ, as he makes perfectly clear in the verses above.
SANTA CLAUS WEARS SCARLET which Christ has told us is SATAN'S COLOUR (see Revelations chapter 12 verses 3+9 - the great RED dragon - SATAN).
SANTA CLAUS is an anagram for SATAN.
SATAN LUCAS/LUCIFER - THE DEVIL.
There is nothing Godly about Christmas and Christ HATES it; so how can christians celebrate it? Who taught them to do so? Certainly NOT Christ or his apostles.
A true Christian would be one who follows Christ's Way, does what He did, loves what He loved and hates what he hates - he would not imagine or theorize on what Christ would like or not like.
The "Virgin-birth" was in Spring at the time of birth and The Passover, when "lambs" were being born. It was NOT in December, the seasonal time of death.
The virgin-birth was actually in April, with new-born lambs in the fields, just like the Second Coming.
Giving presents to human children, instead of them giving their "selves" as presents to God, feeds their egos (the "self") and makes them more arrogant and selfish because people are paying homage to them, bringing them gifts. This arrogance then causes them to oppress adults (Isaiah 3:12).
Instead of which they should be paying homage to God, and being thankful for Him having sent His Son to show them The Way, using their money in God's cause (for good). Children like adults have to lose their egoes and become unselfish (by daily crucifixion - "self"-sacrifice); humble; polite and helpful, or they will continue the ruining of the world and cause themselves to be executed on the Last Day.
So, by giving gifts and celebrating a pagan festival, parents are, IN REALITY, doing harm to their own children and themselves, whilst making themselves poorer, and the rich richer and bringing about the ultimate execution of their children's souls (Beings) and their own, on the now imminent Last Day.
Children should get only what they need, when they need it and NOT get expensive useless rubbish that breaks and/or is quickly discarded. They need you to spend the time, that you spent working to buy presents, with them, teaching them love and how to behave properly, instead of feeding their egos. Less time at work, for you, and more time with your children so that you are not strangers to each other.
Christ came to bring True Justice for everyone, to put an end to poverty and make life loving and better EVERY day not one miserable day a year.
The decking of fir trees with silver and gold and placing presents (offerings) under them is also a pagan ritual condemned by God in the Bible in Jeremiah 10:2-4. Nimrod/Osiris/Horus is often pictured with wings, holding reindeer and a fir tree.
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X-MASS - YULETIDE
A PAGAN FESTIVAL
(which is actually condemned by Christ)
A PAGAN FESTIVAL
(which is actually condemned by Christ)
CHRIST'S OPINION of SANTA CLAUS and YULETIDE, as expressed by HIS ANGEL, to HIS APOSTLE JOHN, in THE APOCALYPSE, Chapter 2.
Xmas has absolutely nothing to do with God. It was originally called Yuletide, which is a pagan festival from the Babylonian Mystery religion of SUN worship. The Babylonians were merchants (they were the originators of the "Market-system" which is condemned by God) and they used Yuletide to sell their merchandise because, like today, it made them lots of money. Then in the first century A.D. Simon (the Sorcerer) Pater (NOT Peter) stole the name christian, mixed it with the Babylonian Mystery religion and formed a new religion called christianity, that teaches the opposite of what Christ taught, and has SUNdays as its sabbath days, due to its SUN-god worshipping origins (Galatians 1:6-9; 2:4). Simon Pater NOT Simon Peter (Cephas) started the fake religion called "christianity" (Acts 8:9-25). Christ's TRUE followers or disciples called themselves "Followers of The Way" or "Those True to The Covenant" (Nazrim ha-Brit), NOT christians.
SUNday is the FIRST day of the week, NOT the Sabbath which is the SEVENTH day; on which God rested. This "so-called" christianity perverted the teachings of Christ and incorporated their pagan rituals, in their temples, which have as their focal point a "Tower of Babel" (from which the word Babylon is derived) in which were babbling-bells. This is directly opposed to the true teaching of Christ who says that YOU must NOT go to church (Matthew 6:5-6 where synagogue means all churches). They also hijacked the virgin-birth and moved it from April to December 25th to coincide with their own Yuletide festival, which Christ says he HATES, in the Holy Bible, in Apocalypse/Revelation 2:6, 15, where the Nicolaitanes, whose doctrine Christ hates, are the followers of Santa (Ni)-Claus, who celebrate Yuletide (and Easter [Ishtar] a god of fertility - eggs are the symbol of fertility not crucifixion).
Verse 6: But this thou hast (in thy favour), that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes which I (Christ) ALSO HATE.
Verse 15: So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes (the followers of St.Nicholas - Santa Claus), which thing I (Christ) HATE.
The Nicolaitans celebrate Yule-tide (Christmas now) and Santa Claus (st. Nicholas) and decorate trees with silver, which thing Christ HATES, because it is Satanic and NOT from God or Christ, as he makes perfectly clear in the verses above.
SANTA CLAUS WEARS SCARLET which Christ has told us is SATAN'S COLOUR (see Revelations chapter 12 verses 3+9 - the great RED dragon - SATAN).
SANTA CLAUS is an anagram for SATAN.
SATAN LUCAS/LUCIFER - THE DEVIL.
There is nothing Godly about Christmas and Christ HATES it; so how can christians celebrate it? Who taught them to do so? Certainly NOT Christ or his apostles.
A true Christian would be one who follows Christ's Way, does what He did, loves what He loved and hates what he hates - he would not imagine or theorize on what Christ would like or not like.
The "Virgin-birth" was in Spring at the time of birth and The Passover, when "lambs" were being born. It was NOT in December, the seasonal time of death.
The virgin-birth was actually in April, with new-born lambs in the fields, just like the Second Coming.
Giving presents to human children, instead of them giving their "selves" as presents to God, feeds their egos (the "self") and makes them more arrogant and selfish because people are paying homage to them, bringing them gifts. This arrogance then causes them to oppress adults (Isaiah 3:12).
Instead of which they should be paying homage to God, and being thankful for Him having sent His Son to show them The Way, using their money in God's cause (for good). Children like adults have to lose their egoes and become unselfish (by daily crucifixion - "self"-sacrifice); humble; polite and helpful, or they will continue the ruining of the world and cause themselves to be executed on the Last Day.
So, by giving gifts and celebrating a pagan festival, parents are, IN REALITY, doing harm to their own children and themselves, whilst making themselves poorer, and the rich richer and bringing about the ultimate execution of their children's souls (Beings) and their own, on the now imminent Last Day.
Children should get only what they need, when they need it and NOT get expensive useless rubbish that breaks and/or is quickly discarded. They need you to spend the time, that you spent working to buy presents, with them, teaching them love and how to behave properly, instead of feeding their egos. Less time at work, for you, and more time with your children so that you are not strangers to each other.
Christ came to bring True Justice for everyone, to put an end to poverty and make life loving and better EVERY day not one miserable day a year.
The decking of fir trees with silver and gold and placing presents (offerings) under them is also a pagan ritual condemned by God in the Bible in Jeremiah 10:2-4. Nimrod/Osiris/Horus is often pictured with wings, holding reindeer and a fir tree.
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Personally I don’t celebrate any holiday with a spiritual significance. Christmas to me is a commercialized holiday built around developing memories with the family and friends. On the 24th the family has dinner and the kids open a gift or two and the following morning cousins and so on with kids open up the rest at their own houses. After that we all do our own things. I’m going to hiking along the beach with friends. Then showering and changing at this campground and we are all going to see the new vampire horror film, Nosferatu coming out Xmas day. They have a 1040am showing we are going too. Then we are going to one of our houses and cooking holiday themed vegan meal. The group I’m with are all vegan. That night for about 2 hours, until around 730pm we are cooking s’mores over a fire while listening to ghost horror stories before heading off. Some may stay later, but many are leaving around 730pm. I definitely am since I wake up at 2/230am to start my day. But Christmas is not a Christian festival for me. It’s just a festival to give gifts and hang out with friends. We know Jesus was probably born in another season. Even Easter for me is a secular holiday.
Something is only pagan/christian if you do it as such. Decorating a tree is only pagan if you are pagans and it’s only a ritual if it’s part of idol worship. Otherwise, it’s just decorating a tree. Ritualistic pagan worship is what was being called out, not decorating.
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I have Seasonal Affectation Disorder (SAD). Of all the seasons of the year I hate, I most hate the Christmas season. I know what the most wonderful season of the year is - and it aint the season of death! Expectations rise beyond reality. So many put self induced stress on themselves (including my wife). It should be no wonder this is the time of the year more suicides are committed than any other time of year.
Jesus Christ is NOT the reason for the season! His birth was most likely in September. The evergreen trees and wreaths were all from Pagan rituals to celebrate the return of the sun in the sky, whose winter nadir is December 21. They could not be sure the sun was up/out longer for a few days later.
We cannot appreciate how desperate ancient people were. How close they lived to the edge of starvation. The dread they must have felt to realize in the summer the days were getting shorter and the time to grow food was quickly coming to an end. They may have needed 6 months of stored food to get through the winter, before next years' harvest. The return of the sun meant a chance for life.
Part of Christianity's success is how they co-opted and Christianized Pagan holidays. The same with bunnies at Easter, which again is tied to the season of life. The rabbit, the Playboy mascot known for its vitality of reproduction. Let's keep it real.
Jesus Christ is NOT the reason for the season! His birth was most likely in September. The evergreen trees and wreaths were all from Pagan rituals to celebrate the return of the sun in the sky, whose winter nadir is December 21. They could not be sure the sun was up/out longer for a few days later.
We cannot appreciate how desperate ancient people were. How close they lived to the edge of starvation. The dread they must have felt to realize in the summer the days were getting shorter and the time to grow food was quickly coming to an end. They may have needed 6 months of stored food to get through the winter, before next years' harvest. The return of the sun meant a chance for life.
Part of Christianity's success is how they co-opted and Christianized Pagan holidays. The same with bunnies at Easter, which again is tied to the season of life. The rabbit, the Playboy mascot known for its vitality of reproduction. Let's keep it real.
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