Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

[Taken]

Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

Yes? Please offer Scriptural Quote.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

Yes.

Disciple Thomas speaking to Jesus;

John 20:
[28] And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Johann]

Yes.

Disciple Thomas speaking to Jesus;

John 20:
[28] And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Glory to God,
Taken

Be prepared for a stiff push back here @Taken.

J.

 

[MatthewG]

Hello @Taken

Certainly, Jesus is acknowledged as the Word of God and is referred to as the Lord. Thomas, often known as Doubting Thomas, touched the holes in Yeshuas hand which the nails had went through and the side of the Lord Jesus, thereby recognizing His divinity. In the same chapter, Jesus speaks to Martha after His resurrection, and it is during the time which he would now become known and He is referred to as the Begotten Son of God, saying, "Jesus said to her, ‘Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.’" I find nothing wrong with Thomas's statement; he is simply acknowledging the resurrected Yeshua as divine. We have to consider, Thomas was someone who doubted. There are many people that doubt even so today, however when it comes to truth, Jesus was the Lord, and the Word of God, known as "God with us," Emmanuel. We can also consider what Paul stated to the people in Corinthians, 1 Corinthians 8:6 But for us, There is one God, the Father, by whom all things were created, and for whom we live. And there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created, and through whom we live.

I do not subscribe to the concepts of God the Son or God the Holy Spirit. However, I do accept the ideas of God, the Word of God, and the Holy Spirit of God. This may be where my perspective differs from that of many others; ultimately, what is most important is that our connection is with the Father and the Son. The beliefs people hold do not make them any more right with God than the next devoted individual who has undergone a transformation in their understanding of the Father and the Son, acknowledging them in Spirit and in truth. 1 John 1:3 states, "We proclaim to you what we ourselves have actually seen and heard so that you may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ." Today, I believe that Yahavah and his Son (now known as the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY) are united once more , as they were in the beginning. I have conducted a study in the bible study section regarding "Who is the Word of God, the Word of Life."

All the best!

 

[Behold]

The way the Bible reveals the Deity of Christ is by cross referencing Jesus and/with God.

Like.

1.) "If you've seen ME.... You've seen the Father"

"I and my Father, are ONE"..

"Let US... .make man..........in OUR image"..

Reader.....See how the BIBLE, the word of God, connects them as being the same?

And you have for example.... God creating everything by the word of creation, and Jesus is ""the Word, who became flesh.""
So, Genesis (OT) said that God created the world, , and in John 1:10, (NT) it says that Jesus created the world.

2.) Here is another one for the Deity of Christ doubters to consider..

1 John 5 20...

Notice this part of the Verse :....= "He, is the true God, and Eternal Life".
Who is that?

Notice..>>"TRUE God"....

And who is Jesus?.........Jesus is..>>" I Am.. (and that is God's Name that God gave Moses).... THE Truth"... John 14:6

3. ) Now look at this part of the verse... "and Eternal Life".. is who "HE" is...

And Jesus says "All that believe in me, i give unto you, ETERNAL Life"... because that is who "HE" is....

John says.>>"you can know that you have = Eternal life" because Eternal life is .."""IN His Son"""...

Now, see how we see God and Christ again, being overlaid, interchangeable.. as the same??

4.) Here is one more..

"""God hath raised JESUS.. from the Dead""".....and Jesus said.. """I have the POWER to take up my LIFE"""... (after im dead).

See it?
There it is again........its the SAME

And what is Jesus doing by "taking up MY LIFE">.. .= That is Resurrection POWER.......that is Jesus saying "I AM THE RESURRECTION......and The Life".

See it?

 

[TigersPaw]

Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

Yes? Please offer Scriptural Quote.

Glory to God,
Taken

Yes.
Statements by Jesus​

1. John 10:30 - "I and the Father are one."
   • Many Christians interpret this as Jesus claiming unity with God, though some argue it reflects unity in purpose rather than essence.
2. John 8:58 - "Before Abraham was, I am."
   • Jesus uses the phrase "I am," which some link to God's self-identification in Exodus 3:14 ("I AM WHO I AM"). This is seen by many Christians as Jesus claiming divinity.
3. John 14:9 - "Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father."
   • This is often interpreted as a claim to divinity or unity with God.

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Statements by Others​

1. Thomas in John 20:28 - "My Lord and my God!"
   • After Jesus' resurrection, Thomas directly addresses Jesus as "God." This is one of the clearest acknowledgments of Jesus' divinity in the New Testament.
2. Paul in Colossians 2:9 - "For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form."
   • Paul explicitly describes Jesus as embodying the fullness of God.
3. Hebrews 1:8 - "But about the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever.’"
   • This passage applies a verse from the Psalms to Jesus, referring to Him as God.

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Debated Passages​

• Philippians 2:6-7: Paul writes that Jesus, "being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage." Some interpret this as affirming Jesus' divinity, while others see it as showing subordination to God.

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Old Testament and Messianic Expectations​

• While no Old Testament prophecy explicitly identifies the Messiah as God, passages like Isaiah 9:6 ("He will be called Mighty God") are often interpreted by Christians as referring to Jesus.

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Counterarguments​

• Some argue that Jesus never explicitly said, "I am God; worship me," and that His statements reflect His role as a divine representative or a unique, but not identical, relationship with God.
• Verses like Mark 10:18 ("Why do you call me good? No one is good—except God alone") are cited to suggest Jesus distinguishes Himself from God.

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Conclusion​

The interpretation largely depends on theological perspective:

• Trinitarians see clear claims to Jesus' divinity in the passages above.
• Non-Trinitarians (e.g., Unitarians, Jehovah's Witnesses) argue these passages reflect Jesus' special status but not equality with God.
• Jews and Muslims reject the idea of Jesus claiming to be God outright.
  Put this in structure so its not taken out of context.
  
  TP

 

[MatthewG]

In the same chapter, why does Jesus tell Mary, "Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God’"? Who is Jesus' God? It was Yahavah. I find it perplexing that people are so eager to debate these matters while overlooking other scriptures that need to be reconciled. I do not deny the faithful believed fact that Jesus is and was the Word of God. Nor, the faithfully believed fact, that Him and his Father are one together now on the throne of Yahavah.

Yahavah's name, God's name. Is it important? Did God deem it important?

Answering the question of what is on my heart concerning the name of God, the King James version, omits the use of God's name for LORD. It's part of the four letters known as YHVH. It's God's name. Most people do not believe God desires his name to be known. If God is speaking here, it's...

www.christianityboard.com

 

[Johann]

Yes.​

Statements by Jesus​

1. John 10:30 - "I and the Father are one."
   • Many Christians interpret this as Jesus claiming unity with God, though some argue it reflects unity in purpose rather than essence.
2. John 8:58 - "Before Abraham was, I am."
   • Jesus uses the phrase "I am," which some link to God's self-identification in Exodus 3:14 ("I AM WHO I AM"). This is seen by many Christians as Jesus claiming divinity.
3. John 14:9 - "Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father."
   • This is often interpreted as a claim to divinity or unity with God.

---

Statements by Others​

1. Thomas in John 20:28 - "My Lord and my God!"
   • After Jesus' resurrection, Thomas directly addresses Jesus as "God." This is one of the clearest acknowledgments of Jesus' divinity in the New Testament.
2. Paul in Colossians 2:9 - "For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form."
   • Paul explicitly describes Jesus as embodying the fullness of God.
3. Hebrews 1:8 - "But about the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever.’"
   • This passage applies a verse from the Psalms to Jesus, referring to Him as God.

---

Debated Passages​

• Philippians 2:6-7: Paul writes that Jesus, "being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage." Some interpret this as affirming Jesus' divinity, while others see it as showing subordination to God.

---

Old Testament and Messianic Expectations​

• While no Old Testament prophecy explicitly identifies the Messiah as God, passages like Isaiah 9:6 ("He will be called Mighty God") are often interpreted by Christians as referring to Jesus.

---

Counterarguments​

• Some argue that Jesus never explicitly said, "I am God; worship me," and that His statements reflect His role as a divine representative or a unique, but not identical, relationship with God.
• Verses like Mark 10:18 ("Why do you call me good? No one is good—except God alone") are cited to suggest Jesus distinguishes Himself from God.

---

Conclusion​

The interpretation largely depends on theological perspective:

• Trinitarians see clear claims to Jesus' divinity in the passages above.
• Non-Trinitarians (e.g., Unitarians, Jehovah's Witnesses) argue these passages reflect Jesus' special status but not equality with God.
• Jews and Muslims reject the idea of Jesus claiming to be God outright.
  Put this in structure so its not taken out of context.
  
  TP

Just want to add--Tiger.

Isaiah 9:6 (LXX: Isaiah 9:5)
"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."

Key Phrase: "Mighty God" (El Gibbor, אֵל גִּבּוֹר) directly attributes divinity to the Messiah.

Fulfillment in Jesus: This prophecy describes a child who will rule and embody divine titles, including "Mighty God," showing that the Messiah would not merely be a human leader but God Himself (cf. Luke 1:32-33).

2. Micah 5:2
"But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, who are too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you shall come forth for me one who is to be ruler in Israel, whose coming forth is from of old, from ancient days."

Key Phrase: "From of old, from ancient days" (מִימֵי עוֹלָם, mimei olam) suggests the preexistence of the Messiah, a quality unique to God.
Fulfillment in Jesus: Jesus, born in Bethlehem (Matthew 2:1), fulfills this prophecy. His eternal origin aligns with His divine nature (John 1:1, 14).

3. Jeremiah 23:5-6
"Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will raise up for David a righteous Branch, and he shall reign as king and deal wisely, and shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In his days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell securely. And this is the name by which he will be called: ‘The LORD is our righteousness.’"

Key Phrase: "The LORD is our righteousness" (יְהוָה צִדְקֵנוּ, YHWH Tzidqenu). The Messiah is explicitly called by God’s own covenant name, YHWH.
Fulfillment in Jesus: Jesus, as the righteous Branch, not only reigns as King but also brings salvation and embodies the righteousness of God (2 Corinthians 5:21).

4. Isaiah 7:14
"Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel."

Key Phrase: "Immanuel" (עִמָּנוּאֵל, Immanu-El) means "God with us," signifying the Messiah as God dwelling among His people.
Fulfillment in Jesus: Matthew 1:23 explicitly applies this prophecy to Jesus, whose incarnation as "God with us" reveals His divine identity.

5. Psalm 45:6-7 (LXX: Psalm 44:7-8)
"Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of uprightness; you have loved righteousness and hated wickedness. Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions."

Key Phrase: "Your throne, O God" addresses the king (the Messiah) as God, yet distinguishes between the Messiah and God the Father ("God, your God, has anointed you").
Fulfillment in Jesus: Hebrews 1:8-9 quotes this passage, affirming Jesus as the divine King whose throne is eternal.

6. Zechariah 12:10
"And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn."

Key Phrase: "Look on me, on him whom they have pierced." Here, YHWH speaks, identifying Himself as the one who will be pierced.
Fulfillment in Jesus: This prophecy is fulfilled in Jesus' crucifixion (John 19:37; Revelation 1:7), where God Himself (in the person of the Son) is pierced for humanity's sins.

7. Malachi 3:1
"Behold, I send my messenger, and he will prepare the way before me. And the Lord whom you seek will suddenly come to his temple; and the messenger of the covenant in whom you delight, behold, he is coming, says the LORD of hosts."

Key Phrase: "The Lord... will suddenly come to his temple." The Lord (Adonai) is identified as the one who comes to His temple, signifying deity.
Fulfillment in Jesus: Jesus, as the Lord, came to the Temple during His earthly ministry (Mark 11:15-17) and fulfilled the role of the messenger of the covenant.

8. Daniel 7:13-14
"I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a son of man, and he came to the Ancient of Days and was presented before him. And to him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him; his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom one that shall not be destroyed."

Key Phrase: The "Son of Man" receives worship (cf. Aramaic pelach, דִּי יִפְלְחוּן), which is due only to God.
Fulfillment in Jesus: Jesus applies this prophecy to Himself (Mark 14:62), identifying Himself as the divine figure who is worshiped by all nations.
9. Isaiah 40:3
"A voice cries: ‘In the wilderness prepare the way of the LORD; make straight in the desert a highway for our God.’"

Key Phrase: The way is prepared for YHWH ("the LORD"), equated with our God.
Fulfillment in Jesus: John the Baptist fulfills this prophecy by preparing the way for Jesus (Matthew 3:3), identifying Jesus as YHWH incarnate.

These prophecies, taken together, present a consistent picture of the Messiah as God incarnate. The New Testament writers, under divine inspiration, explicitly connect these passages to Jesus, affirming His divine nature and mission.

J.

 

[MatthewG]

Hello @Johann,

According to Revelation, Jesus is now seated with his Father on the throne referred to as the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. This is how I interpret the scripture regarding "mighty God." I believe that the Word of God became incarnate and was born both of flesh and Spirit. His name was Immanuel, meaning "God with us." In what way was God present with them? Through the body of Christ, because of the Word of God that resided within him. It's strange to consider that Yahavah died on the cross. That is likely what perplexes me the most.

 

[Johann]

Hello @Johann,

According to Revelation, Jesus is now seated with his Father on the throne referred to as the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. This is how I interpret the scripture regarding "mighty God." I believe that the Word of God became incarnate and was born both of flesh and Spirit. His name was Immanuel, meaning "God with us." In what way was God present with them? Through the body of Christ, because of the Word of God that resided within him. It's strange to consider that Yahavah died on the cross. That is likely what perplexes me the most.

Not really-the man Christ Jesus died on the cross.

J.

 

[MatthewG]

Another simple thought, while Jesus was the Word of God; born of flesh and spirit, Yeshua was equal to God because he was the very Word of God which existed in the beginning. Every Word that God had spoken just as when he stated “Let there be light, and there was.” The Word Of God made incarceration within the body of the one whom we believe is our Lord and Savior is an expression of the Fathers heart. Jesus was the very expression of God/Yahavahs love for all people and also judgement which would come upon the nation of Israel. But I digress; people will take it all kinds of ways; and what’s important is to by the clinging on to the Lord Yeshua, in his strength love the Father with all our heart, mind, and soul, and love others as ourselves. I can’t say I find it strange for people to combative towards things they haven’t yet to consider or thought about because it’s part of our nature itself. May the Spirit of Yahavah, the Spirit of Christ guide us to the truth. Even so, let us love one another as ourselves by his strength and not our own.

I don’t believe I am confused by anything I’ve already shared except maybe the thought which is always seemingly suggested that “God died on the cross.” I do believe the Word of God, born of spirit and of flesh named Jesus died with Jesus on the cross, went with Jesus to Sheol, carried him through there, and Yahavah by his Holy Spirit rose Jesus up from the dead (Resurrecting his Word). It was only for a moment of time which made atonement for the World; and God did reconcile all things unto himself through Christ, but to think Yahavah himself died, is just strange to me personally.

Anyway: all the best. Thank you for the comments and helping me think about things.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Hello @Taken

Certainly, Jesus is acknowledged as the Word of God and is referred to as the Lord. Thomas, often known as Doubting Thomas, touched the holes in Yeshuas hand which the nails had went through and the side of the Lord Jesus, thereby recognizing His divinity. In the same chapter, Jesus speaks to Martha after His resurrection, and it is during the time which he would now become known and He is referred to as the Begotten Son of God, saying, "Jesus said to her, ‘Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.’" I find nothing wrong with Thomas's statement; he is simply acknowledging the resurrected Yeshua as divine. We have to consider, Thomas was someone who doubted. There are many people that doubt even so today, however when it comes to truth, Jesus was the Lord, and the Word of God, known as "God with us," Emmanuel. We can also consider what Paul stated to the people in Corinthians, 1 Corinthians 8:6 But for us, There is one God, the Father, by whom all things were created, and for whom we live. And there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created, and through whom we live.

I do not subscribe to the concepts of God the Son or God the Holy Spirit. However, I do accept the ideas of God, the Word of God, and the Holy Spirit of God. This may be where my perspective differs from that of many others; ultimately, what is most important is that our connection is with the Father and the Son. The beliefs people hold do not make them any more right with God than the next devoted individual who has undergone a transformation in their understanding of the Father and the Son, acknowledging them in Spirit and in truth. 1 John 1:3 states, "We proclaim to you what we ourselves have actually seen and heard so that you may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ." Today, I believe that Yahavah and his Son (now known as the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY) are united once more , as they were in the beginning. I have conducted a study in the bible study section regarding "Who is the Word of God, the Word of Life."

All the best!

Then you reject the Word of God as written.

Jesus claimed equality with the Father.

John 5:18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

John 5:23
That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

John did. thomas did, Paul did. nuff said!

 

[MatthewG]

Hello @Ronald Nolette,

I love you! I hope for you all the best, in the Lord, friend. (God knows what I desire to say, but abiding in Christ is what is best off.) You take care.

 

[Verily]

Then you reject the Word of God as written.

Jesus claimed equality with the Father.

John 5:18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

John 5:23
That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

​

John.5 Verses 17 to 24​

1. [17] But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.[18] Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
2. [19] Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.[20] For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.[21] For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.
3. [22] For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:[23] That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.[24] Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Gives a better picture when read from verse 17 and followed through on that one

They were not allowed to touch Jesus until he ascended to His God and Father to receive the Holy Ghost which He (after) breathed upon them starting in John 20:22 But Thomas was not with them eight days earlier and he appeared unto Thomas.

John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

John 20:30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:

John 20:30 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Even as it says here

2 Cr 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Just as earlier when Philip said to him the following

John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us

John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

As Jesus said in John 16:32 "I am not alone, because the Father is with me."

And so when Thomas says,

John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Knowing that it is also written

2 Cr 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself

Might become a weaker argument going by what Thomas says (in light of Jesus telling them the Father is with him) and also when it concludes a few verses down from Thomas saying

John 20:30 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

I dont why Psalm 45:6-7 isnt used when it come to Jesus being addressed as God, by God the Father.

Although His God and Father made Jesus Lord and Christ for us.

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

And so it would make sense

1 Cr 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

They were not allowed to touch Jesus until he ascended to His God and Father to receive the Holy Ghost which He (after) breathed upon them starting in John 20:22 But Thomas was not with them eight days earlier and he appeared unto Thomas.

That is incorrect. Jesus ascended sometime after Mary saw HIm risen in the garden and a week later when He appeared to the Apostles with Thomas with them.

Remembering jesus is the OT fulfilment of the high priest, then the following he did in obedience

1. Could not be touched lest He be ceremonially defiled
2. Had to enter the real Holy of Holies in heaven.
3. Pour out the blood of th espotless lamb (his own blood) on the mercy seat.

That is why Mary could not touch Him, but Thomas could, so He could fulfill all parts of the Law.

 

[Verily]

That is incorrect. Jesus ascended sometime after Mary saw HIm risen in the garden and a week later when He appeared to the Apostles with Thomas with them.

Remembering jesus is the OT fulfilment of the high priest, then the following he did in obedience

1. Could not be touched lest He be ceremonially defiled
2. Had to enter the real Holy of Holies in heaven.
3. Pour out the blood of th espotless lamb (his own blood) on the mercy seat.

That is why Mary could not touch Him, but Thomas could, so He could fulfill all parts of the Law.

That was basically what I stated which you are disagreeing with

He appears her tells her not to touch him because he had not yet ascended and tells them to tell his brethren

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

These say

Luke 24:24 And certain of them which were with us went to the sepulchre, and found it even so as the women had said: but him they saw not.

Then here Jesus appears to his diciples and breathes on them to receive the Holy Ghost here

John 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

John 20:24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.

And wheras before it was said unto her, "Touch me not" its encouraged when he appears to Thomas

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

 

[Taken]

Long before human men (plural) gathered together in appointed Council fashion to roundtable decide what THEY would Agree on, To Teach other men ABOUT God…

God Held His own council amongst Himself…

(In a Similitude of Fashion as ancient Philosophers).

“Me, Myself and I”, have concluded such and such. (And taking from the modern Ripleys’ slogan and mans ancient freewill option…
Every individual…
“Can believe it, or not”.

So WHO is this…”Me, Myself and I” in regard to God?

* Most Curiously…The Biblical Book of GENESIS … Gives a CLUE THREE Times.

Gen 1:
[26] And God said, Let us make man in our image after our likeness:

* Most Interestingly…The Biblical BookS of the entire Bible gives vague AND precise Knowledge regarding God.

I AM He.


* Most Appropriately…The Biblical Book of REVELATIONS … REVEALS the Answer of WHO, FIVE Times.

Rev 8: Lord God Almighty
Rev 11: Lord God Almighty
Rev 15: Lord God Almighty
Rev 16: Lord God Almighty
Rev 21: Lord God Almighty

* Did you Know…the First created AND made man caused a Blunder For All of ManKind?
(By him exercising his Free Will and thus Causing him to Fall Away From Gods LIKENESS?)

* Did you Know…every individual ManKind of Being HAS their own Free Will to become reconciled WITH God and MADE in Gods LIKENESS, by the Offering AND Power Of God?

Are YOU made AFTER Gods LIKENESS?
Did YOUR ( “me, myself and I” )…
Body Soul Spirit
….( humbly, truthfully ask The)
Lord God Almighty…
…. ( to MAKE you after His Likeness?)

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[chandlere880]

would we not simply understand that Jesus was both fully human and fully God and that he ascended to heaven to return back to God - to exist as God as he came out of God .

He is the mediator and the propitiation for our sins... God lowered himself to come to earth in the form of flesh as a man and provided his gift of salvation

Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood..

1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

1Jn 4:10 ... he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.


this word " propitiation " means to make reconciliation for - to be merciful for. i am in need of the mercy of God. It is a cold, dark and lonely world filled with many paths that lead to destruction and i need Jesus every moment of every day,

 

[David in NJ]

Be prepared for a stiff push back here @Taken.

J.

When unbelief/doubt/deception wants to push us back, the Holy Spirit leads us Forward into Truth = Thy word is Truth

 

[David in NJ]

Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

Yes? Please offer Scriptural Quote.

Glory to God,
Taken

The Lord Jesus Christ declared Himself as God on at least two occasions.

Yet the Lord does not submit to men who DEMAND that He answer them according to their desires.

The FATHER/WORD/HOLY SPIRIT Speak to us in psalms, proverbs, parables and mysteries.
This is the Way the Truth and the Life

Here is one - Mark 10:17-22

Now as He was going out on the road, one came running, knelt before Him, and asked Him, “Good Teacher, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?”

So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery,’ ‘Do not murder,’ ‘Do not steal,’ ‘Do not bear false witness,’ ‘Do not defraud,’ ‘Honor your father and your mother.’ ”

And he answered and said to Him, “Teacher, all these things I have kept from my youth.”

Then Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, “One thing you lack: Go your way, sell whatever you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, take up the cross, and follow Me.”

But he was sad at this word, and went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.