Absurd idea, US civil war to start due to illegals being deported

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Hmmmm……

When you cease to believe in God, you will believe in anything?

Actually, for the Left, their fallen nature is all they have. They lust after personal power, prestige, wealth, sensual pleasure . . . .

Since for some their only remaining power etc. is in small enclaves (counties, cities), they are making their last stand with all that remains: defiance of the new administration.

Meanwhile, the current administration is sabotaging the incoming one: same idea.

And: Was it not the same in the late 1800s and early 20th century in the South: the die-hard segregationists making a last stand?

How can we reach people who have fallen so much?

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This is what will happen in the world the rich can no longer tolerate the poor as the world reaches its breaking point they want to retain their wealth at the expense of the poor.It will spread to other countries and get worse and worse.There will be a huge divide.No Christianity in any of this.This is going world wide at some point the beast has been unleashed with the poor as the target.Just how ugly is that beast we will see.
 
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This is what will happen in the world the rich can no longer tolerate the poor as the world reaches its breaking point they want to retain their wealth at the expense of the poor.It will spread to other countries and get worse and worse.There will be a huge divide.No Christianity in any of this.This is going world wide at some point the beast has been unleashed with the poor as the target.Just how ugly is that beast we will see.
Thank you for your thoughts.

Why so much obsession with “the rich”? How much wealth they have and how they spend it is of no concern to me. Actually, many of the rich donate large amounts to charities, which I applaud. Strange, but it bothers some people that the rich might give away 50% of their annual income, but still have well-above average wealth for themselves.

My concern is more with those that want to take away our basic freedoms: equality (under the law), life, and liberty (including our freedom to worship as our faith moves us).

Blessings.
 

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Thank you for your thoughts.

Why so much obsession with “the rich”? How much wealth they have and how they spend it is of no concern to me. Actually, many of the rich donate large amounts to charities, which I applaud. Strange, but it bothers some people that the rich might give away 50% of their annual income, but still have well-above average wealth for themselves.

My concern is more with those that want to take away our basic freedoms: equality (under the law), life, and liberty (including our freedom to worship as our faith moves us).

Blessings.
The rich only give away for a tax deduction. That's it. Rich people do not think the way normal people think. Its more about power and the drive to invest and support political candidates to protect those investments.
 
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The rich only give away for a tax deduction. That's it. Rich people do not think the way normal people think. Its more about power and the drive to invest and support political candidates to protect those investments.
People give to get?
Ok, but at least they give and can give a lot, but giving may not get them much praise from God, if for the wrong motives..

Jesus taught us to give without expectation of return, and to not just give to friends and family who can pay you back.

12 Then He also said to him who invited Him, “When you give a dinner or a supper, do not ask your friends, your brothers, your relatives, nor rich neighbors, lest they also invite you back, and you be repaid. 13 But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the [d]maimed, the lame, the blind. 14 And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you; for you shall be repaid at the resurrection of the just.”
 
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People give to get?
Ok, but at least they give and can give a lot, but giving may not get them much praise from God, if for the wrong motives..

Jesus taught us to give without expectation of return, and to not just give to friends and family who can pay you back.

12 Then He also said to him who invited Him, “When you give a dinner or a supper, do not ask your friends, your brothers, your relatives, nor rich neighbors, lest they also invite you back, and you be repaid. 13 But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the [d]maimed, the lame, the blind. 14 And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you; for you shall be repaid at the resurrection of the just.”
I've never met a rich Christian. I've run in their circles before. Power and money is their motivation. If your are rich and lack power, you run for or/and support a candidate of an office.
 

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I've never met a rich Christian. I've run in their circles before. Power and money is their motivation. If your are rich and lack power, you run for or/and support a candidate of an office.
I know some rich Christians, but at what level do you define rich?

Christian's can be monetarily rich, but if they are not rich towards God, they are just building bigger barns for all their stuff.
 
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I know some rich Christians, but at what level do you define rich?

Christian's can be monetarily rich, but if they are not rich towards God, they are just building bigger barns for all their stuff.
A million dollars is not rich. A million a year is rich. They attend political fund raisers and give for a tax deduction, and power. Rags to riches folks are usually good folk who know where they come from, Truet Cathy for instance. Cathy's son is the second generation and does what the company needs to profit. But the 3rd generation will open Chic fil a on Sunday, because it is about profit.
 
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A million dollars is not rich. A million a year is rich. They attend political fund raisers and give for a tax deduction, and power. Rags to riches folks are usually good folk who know where they come from, Truet Cathy for instance. Cathy's son is the second generation and does what the company needs to profit. But the 3rd generation will open Chic fil a on Sunday, because it is about profit.
Yeah, I am not the rich then!
But I figure I am richer than 95% of those alive today.
My goal is to be rich towards God, not build bigger barns.
 
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The rich only give away for a tax deduction. That's it. Rich people do not think the way normal people think. Its more about power and the drive to invest and support political candidates to protect those investments.
Thank you for your comments.

Rich Secularists might only be interested in power, prestige, more wealth, sensuous pleasure, etc. but people of faith—Christians in particular—are not like that. They are thankful for all that God has given them and are generous givers. You might not recognize them because they are humble and do God’s work anonymously.

And how exactly do “normal people“ think? Frugal or spendthrift?

Peace.
 
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Yeah, me I am a penny pincher. I don't live with conspicuous consumption.
Some people do get real showy, I never was one to keep one upping others.
For example my newest car is a 2005 Ram dually diesel 4x4 truck with 4 doors and 8 foot bed, and I like it a lot.
It helps to do your own work, I am a good DIY person on everything I can. But I don't fault those who are not, they provide other people with jobs to do.

Rich people also employ lots of people and their families, some own very successful businesses.
 
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This is what will happen in the world the rich can no longer tolerate the poor as the world reaches its breaking point they want to retain their wealth at the expense of the poor.It will spread to other countries and get worse and worse.There will be a huge divide.No Christianity in any of this.This is going world wide at some point the beast has been unleashed with the poor as the target.Just how ugly is that beast we will see.
Wealthy people ?

Well some are good and some, the ones who inherited it all say ? or were born with a silver spoon in their mouth as they say ?
I have found such can be as stupid as they come, for they live in another world, one could say, i know a lot of such people and they are leftys and greenies who are off their face ! so wealthy that reality just does not compute ! they even once lived on the Land or own land farming ! not that they work it. some may, but they are that well off that nothing is an issue for them ever truly. they have never had to truly deal with making a go of something ? but they have people like themselves freinds that are all of the same ilk !
It's all oh i have lived here for 4 years now and we are building a new bigger house, in a more flash hood ! just so they have something to talk about or boast with such nonsense. they are sick !

But then again i know some of the most wealthy people are down to earth as they come, they do not do anything just to boast at all and they do not dress up to make out who they are ? for they do not have to try and make others think they are somebody ? big difference betwen the two types.

Out at some do, i point out see that fat slob dressed as a bum, he is the most wealthy dude in the Town. and see that old hick who looks like he has just come off working the farm, he ownes how many houses and farm Land that i know of but who knows what else and them two dudes are down to earth good people that you can talk to openly regardless ! but the other type are a abomination to talk to because everything is false about them !

My mum came from a wealthy family and is as stuck up as they come, i have seen it all.
she has never had a clue about money and boast of such ! she just spends it ! could not give a rats, it's all about her. and just wants her servants to serve her. That's how she was brought up to be in fact ! her dad had arranged her marriage into the Blue Bloods for wealth keep it in the family. so that no other man could posibly afford to keep her in fact. Her dad openly said so to my dad, you will never be able to afford her !

So we can see a stuck up side to society in the wealthy that is abomination, because they are off with the pixies, reality does not count ! and we see much the same in the average snobery and then the lower class rat bags, altho even the lowest rug has people who are much better a person than such as the toffs in fact.

So i think their are two main types of people in general, ones who will always out use anyone and others who are above that wreched class of dingbats.
Their are right wing trash out and about as well, just greed driven numbskulls who are an abomination as well because they will use people, and it's all founded on abuse.

Just as they say about one being an educated idiot ! it's true ! well it's truly maybe that such is truly a Indoctrinated dolt. They get into a click of people who all swallow such crap, because they never get challanged and if they do, they just dismiss any such. like all Socialist do, as they can not think outside of such a box in fact. they get cold feet ! reality is not for them.
 

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Timothy 3 2-4 describes the mind set of the people in the end time read it carefully.

People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God.

This is what to expect.

It also says the earth will be in a horrible state at the end with extinction close.Sorry no new golden age is coming the bible says the exact opposite.

The more people embrace and love this world and its ways rather than Gods ways the more the punishments will come getting worse and worse.
 
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The left is globalist minded, preferring the idea of no national borders.
Trudeau called Canada the first post national state having no national identity, and he is a planted politician of the WEF, Klaus Schwab even boasted of this.