How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

[David in NJ]

Your mistake

JESUS covered my 'mistakes/sins'!!!

There is NO MISTAKING that Elohim is PLURAL, as in FATHER/SON/HOLY SPIRIT!!!

On the 'other hand' there is the mistake of not knowing this!!!

 

[face2face]

@David in NJ the irony in your rejection of the symbol of Jacob as he speaks to the redeemed, of which I assume you wish to be one of.

Why would you do that?

 

[David in NJ]

No the Word was made flesh at his conception, you are just making things up now

He'll never stop until the Lord, in His Love, opens his eyes!

Unless of course...........but i hope not for his sake.

 

[face2face]

No the Word was made flesh at his conception, you are just making things up now

No, the Word of God (Logos) caused Christ to be born into the fallen line of man - he is called the second Adam - don't you know this? What I'm teaching you is the redeemed Lord was given Divine Nature which is when he "became" Immortal / Eternal.

Surely you are not ignorant to these things?

F2F

 

[David in NJ]

@David in NJ the irony in your rejection of the symbol of Jacob as he speaks to the redeemed, of which I assume you wish to be one of.

Why would you do that?

Do what?

You mean NOT believe God and let doubt creep in, kinda like what your in???

 

[face2face]

He'll never stop until the Lord, in His Love, opens his eyes!

Unless of course...........but i hope not for his sake.

My eyes are wide open...I'm waiting for the light of the truth to pierce through your eyelids!

 

[David in NJ]

My eyes are wide open...I'm waiting for the light of the truth to pierce through your eyelids!

Open the Bible and turn to John chapter 1 verse 1 = start there, in a private room, on your knees in prayer before the LORD.

That's the Way i learned from JESUS.

 

[David in NJ]

My eyes are wide open...I'm waiting for the light of the truth to pierce through your eyelids!

And remember, doubters will receive nothing from the LORD.

 

[face2face]

Maybe @David in NJ doesn't know Jacob had twelve sons who grew into the twelve tribes of Israel?

 

[RLT63]

No, the Word of God (Logos) caused Christ to be born into the fallen line of man - he is called the second Adam - don't you know this? What I'm teaching you is the redeemed Lord was given Divine Nature which is when he "became" Immortal / Eternal.

Surely you are not ignorant to these things?

F2F

It seems you are ignorant of what the Word became flesh means.
How could we behold his glory and his light shine in the darkness without being comprehended if it was only talking about after the resurrection?
And he didn't become immortal, he was always immortal and was in the beginning with God.
How could he die if he was immortal?
He poured it out when he became flesh.
You're not teaching me anything despite your arrogance. You need to get over yourself

 

[David in NJ]

Maybe @David in NJ doesn't know Jacob had twelve sons who grew into the twelve tribes of Israel?

You sit corrected, AGAIN, as it is The 12 Tribes of Israel.

 

[face2face]

It seems you are ignorant of what the Word became flesh means.
How could we behold his glory and his light shine in the darkness without being comprehended if it was only talking about after the resurrection?
And he didn't become immortal, he was always immortal and was in the beginning with God.
How could he die if he was immortal?
He poured it out when he became flesh.
You're not teaching me anything despite your arrogance. You need to get over yourself

I get what you want it to mean and you are willing go to great lenghts but John 1 will never provide you with the complex formula. You need to acknowledge this like many T believers in this forum already have.

You are falling behind in this discussion.

F2F

 

[face2face]

You sit corrected, AGAIN, as it is The 12 Tribes of Israel.

Just another foolish post...how many of these do you have left before we get to some honesty and integrity?

 

[face2face]

You sit corrected, AGAIN, as it is The 12 Tribes of Israel.

You will never give a mm of ground even though you are clearly wrong. It's for this reason the Trinity got up in AD325 - militant mindsets determine at all costs to push through the dogma!

 

[David in NJ]

Just another foolish post...how many of these do you have left before we get to some honesty and integrity?

Honesty and Integrity is in the LORD Jesus Christ.

If you cannot trust Him at His word, how will you ever know TRUTH???

Start here in the Gospel of John

"In the the Beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God."

Are you wiser then the Apostle John???

 

[RLT63]

I get what you want it to mean and you are willing go to great lenghts but John 1 will never provide you with the complex formula. You need to acknowledge this like many T believers in this forum already have.

You are falling behind in this discussion.

F2F

I don't even care about the Trinity, John 1 contradicts everything you are claiming. You are the one failing.
Trinity is just a word for something that we cannot understand, the Godhead cannot be reduced to a word, it is a mystery, a supernatural thing and those that claim they understand it really don't. It is beyond our grasp

 

[David in NJ]

You will never give a mm of ground even though you are clearly wrong. It's for this reason the Trinity got up in AD325 - militant mindsets determine at all costs to push through the dogma!

The TRIUNE GOD was way BEFORE that time my friend - try like from Eternity Past and even before that.......

"In the Beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God."

Are you wiser then the Apostle John???

 

[face2face]

The TRIUNE GOD was way BEFORE that time my friend - try like from Eternity Past and even before that.......

"In the Beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God."

Are you wiser then the Apostle John???

It's true that there has been a long history of gods, dating back to Egyptian times. Where do you think the early church fathers found their theological answers? It certainly wasn’t from the Bible!

@RLT63, be sure to read that PDF—it's a tough read for a Trinitarian, but acknowledging the development of this doctrine is an important first step... it seems some in this forum are beginning to do just that.

F2F

 

[David in NJ]

Matthew 18:15
"Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.
But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’

@face2face

Are you wiser(more knowledgeable) then the Apostle John???

 

[face2face]

I don't even care about the Trinity,

Wow that's a big admission!

John 1 contradicts everything you are claiming. You are the one failing.

No, Logos has become many things RLT which you know is true; just not wanting to give ground on Christ being that Spiritual Creation as Colossians teaches!

Trinity is just a word for something that we cannot understand,

Error can not be understood

the Godhead cannot be reduced to a word, it is a mystery,

The mystery has been revealed - Paul has made that crystal clear

It saddens me to watch a person fall on this sword - so pointless

a supernatural thing and those that claim they understand it really don't. It is beyond our grasp

It's beyond the grasp for those who have error - I agree with that

F2F