A glaring proof of the divinity of Jesus is the many examples of God's people worshipping Christ in the New Testament, which Christ never corrected

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To me this is purely projection on your part.

Much love!

You have just proven this statement to be true in your last post.
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[marks]

Your the one who made the rude comment.. Then you blame people who bring your rudeness back at you

Seems to be a pattern.

Much love!

 

[marks]

You need to apply faith Marks - when this takes place you will perceive the intent of the Lords Words and heed them. There is little more I can do for which has not already been done.

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Well it sure seems to me that I'm the guy that does in fact believe Jesus' words. You seem to think He didn't actually mean what He said.

Just believe what Jesus said. And you'll be OK.

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Seems to be a pattern.

Much love!

Eternally is hurting because she made a stand yesterday which backfired.

There is a pattern here though Marks

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Well it sure seems to me that I'm the guy that does in fact believe Jesus' words. You seem to think He didn't actually mean what He said.

Just believe what Jesus said. And you'll be OK.

Much love!

If a shallow reading satisfies you then "so be it"...if you want to look deeper into his thoughts and reasonings then this can be shown you.

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Christ's reference to Abraham serves to affirm His pre-eminence, not His pre-existence. The Jews had claimed Abraham as their father (vs. 39), so Christ asserts His greater role in God's divine purpose by saying, "Before Abraham was, I am." He did not say, "Before Abraham was, I was," as is often misinterpreted.

The language does not allow your twist of Jesus words.

He said, literally, before abraham, I was.

Only God can make this claim.. (unless he was an angel created before Abraham)

Jesus said Before abraham was (In the greek genomi - to become, to take place. To be formed, to come to exist.)

it does not say or man anythign about how great he was.

Then Jesus said, I am (in the greek ego - I, Eimi - to be, to exist)

again, he could have just said, eimi, (I exist) but he said ego eimi,

either way. Your attempt to twist fails in the greek.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You need to apply faith Marks - when this takes place you will perceive the intent of the Lords Words and heed them. There is little more I can do for which has not already been done.

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Your can;t do anything, when your words are so far off base as to not even agree with the text.

When you try to make to exist to mean how great a person is or is not.. I mean really now

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Seems to be a pattern.

Much love!

Yes, been here done this before with this user. I can’t remember what about. But same pattern

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Eternally is hurting because she made a stand yesterday which backfired.

There is a pattern here though Marks

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Lol

1. She is a he
2. I made a stand that still stands even today. In fact. Once again, I just destroyed your interpretation of this passage by using the origional language.

but hey, believe what you want, Like you say, i have done all i can

 

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Your can;t do anything, when your words are so far off base as to not even agree with the text.

When you try to make to exist to mean how great a person is or is not.. I mean really now

I recall not long ago someone rebuking me about unsolicited responses...you wouldn't recall that by chance?

 

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Lol

1. She is a he
2. I made a stand that still stands even today. In fact. Once again, I just destroyed your interpretation of this passage by using the origional language.

but hey, believe what you want, Like you say, i have done all i can

Jack called me a girl yesterday...I let it slide...maybe I sound like a girl lol

 

[Eternally Grateful]

If a shallow reading satisfies you then "so be it"...if you want to look deeper into his thoughts and reasonings then this can be shown you.

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Already looked deeper. See post 46. No personal opinion. No twisting the words. just plain and simple see what Jesus said,

was he speaking about how great one was

or was he speaking about who was alive first.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I recall not long ago someone rebuking me about unsolicited responses...you wouldn't recall that by chance?

No I would not..

 

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Already looked deeper. See post 46. No personal opinion. No twisting the words. just plain and simple see what Jesus said,

The same as how the Pharisees treated his words then?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Jack called me a girl yesterday...I let it slide...maybe I sound like a girl lol

We are just names here.. I was a member of a chat room once that had gender beside the name,, maybe that would help lol

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The same as how the Pharisees treated his words then?

Just look at the words. And tell me where i got it wrong.

Tell me to exist means how great a person is or is not.

it should not be too hard

 

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Just look at the words. And tell me where i got it wrong.

Tell me to exist means how great a person is or is not.

it should not be too hard

When you want to understand the meaning and intent of the Lords words PM me anytime! Happy to talk you thought it.

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[Eternally Grateful]

When you want to understand the meaning and intent of the Lords words PM me anytime! Happy to talk you thought it.

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Your happy to talk to me, But you will not just take the greek meaning?

should I listen to you. Who already said your biased, and will never change your mind (in effect) or to the defenitions of the words jesus used?

I hope you forgive me if I chose to believe the language and what they mean, and not a person who think he is on a crusade to defeat all the people who believe Jesus is God..

 

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Your happy to talk to me, But you will not just take the greek meaning?

should I listen to you. Who already said your biased, and will never change your mind (in effect) or to the defenitions of the words jesus used?

I hope you forgive me if I chose to believe the language and what they mean, and not a person who think he is on a crusade to defeat all the people who believe Jesus is God..

All Trinitarians may remain in a state of ignorance and confusion, but ultimately, your doctrine does not alter what God accomplished through Christ Jesus. While you may not fully understand what He did, that does not change the reality of His actions. 2 Corinth 5:19

 

[Eternally Grateful]

All Trinitarians may remain in a state of ignorance and confusion, but ultimately, your doctrine does not alter what God accomplished through Christ Jesus. While you may not fully understand what He did, that does not change the reality of His actions. 2 Corinth 5:19

Dude,

I showed to you what jesus said in the greek

It is not a trinitarian or non trinitarian issue, it is just looking at the facts.

The fact, You said it is how great a person was, basically Jesus saying he was greater than abraham

the fact. The greek says the opposite.it speaks about one existing or coming to be or to be born.

You can sit there and argue the trinity all you want. But you can not argue the facts of what Jesus said, they are set in stone.

So you can keep acting like a bully. Or you can admit you got this one wrong. And move to the next argument