A glaring proof of the divinity of Jesus is the many examples of God's people worshipping Christ in the New Testament, which Christ never corrected

[Scott Downey]

As well as all the angels of God worshipping Christ.

They are lacking in recognizing this fundamental truth and refuse to worship Christ, even though the apostles of the Lord did worship Him as did many others as recorded in scripture. Since they do not follow the example of scripture, that is come from God, they are following and believing a lie about who He is.
They are in error. If you challenge non trinitarians on this they will still refuse to worship Christ even through both God's holy angels and holy people did.
Worshipping someone is a sign of divinity as only God is to be worshipped which is also one of the OT commandments.
Christ received their worship and did not reject it, proving His own divinity.

NT worship scriptures

BibleGateway - Keyword Search: worship

www.biblegateway.com

Groups that reject worship of Christ who are non trinitarian, and what they believe.

9 Faith Groups That Deny the Trinity Doctrine

The Trinity doctrine is central to most Christian denominations even though the term is not in the Bible. Non-trinitarian faiths reject the doctrine.

www.learnreligions.com

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[Scott Downey]

God and Christ worshipped in Heaven​

The Lamb Takes the Scroll​

5 And I saw in the right hand of Him who sat on the throne a scroll written inside and on the back, sealed with seven seals. 2 Then I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, “Who is worthy to open the scroll and to loose its seals?” 3 And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll, or to look at it.

4 So I wept much, because no one was found worthy to open [a]and read the scroll, or to look at it. 5 But one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep. Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and [b]to loose its seven seals.”

6 And I looked, [c]and behold, in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as though it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth. 7 Then He came and took the scroll out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne.

Worthy Is the Lamb​

8 Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. 9 And they sang a new song, saying:

“You are worthy to take the scroll,
And to open its seals;
For You were slain,
And have redeemed us to God by Your blood
Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,
10 And have made [d]us kings[e] and priests to our God;
And [f]we shall reign on the earth.”
11 Then I looked, and I heard the voice of many angels around the throne, the living creatures, and the elders; and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands, 12 saying with a loud voice:

“Worthy is the Lamb who was slain
To receive power and riches and wisdom,
And strength and honor and glory and blessing!”
13 And every creature which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard saying:

“Blessing and honor and glory and power
Be to Him who sits on the throne,
And to the Lamb, forever and [g]ever!”
14 Then the four living creatures said, “Amen!” And the [h]twenty-four elders fell down and worshiped [i]Him who lives forever and ever.

 

[Scott Downey]

Christ says He is alpha and Omega, the first and the Last, terms we associate with God.​

Vision of the Son of Man​

9 I, John, [f]both your brother and companion in the tribulation and kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was on the island that is called Patmos for the word of God and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, 11 saying, [g]“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last,” and, “What you see, write in a book and send it to the seven churches [h]which are in Asia: to Ephesus, to Smyrna, to Pergamos, to Thyatira, to Sardis, to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea.”

12 Then I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands, 13 and in the midst of the seven lampstands One like the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to the feet and girded about the chest with a golden band. 14 His head and hair were white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes like a flame of fire; 15 His feet were like fine brass, as if refined in a furnace, and His voice as the sound of many waters; 16 He had in His right hand seven stars, out of His mouth went a sharp two-edged sword, and His countenance was like the sun shining in its strength. 17 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying [i]to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. 18 I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of [j]Hades and of Death. 19 [k]Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after this. 20 The [l]mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: The seven stars are the [m]angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands [n]which you saw are the seven churches.

 

[face2face]

"Saying, 'Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory, honor, and power'"

The best Greek texts read: "O Lord, even our God." This declaration saw the resurrected and glorified Lord, will be echoed by all the redeemed in the coming age (John 20:28). They will recognize in the Lord of Glory not merely "the man Christ Jesus," but the full manifestation of His Father—mentally, morally, and physically. However, they too will partake in that glory (Rom. 5:2), being clothed with divine nature (2 Pet. 1:4) and bearing the name of Yahweh upon them (Rev. 3:12). Thus, the perfected "house of David" will "be as God" (Zech. 12:8), and the world will be compelled to bow before the glorified "sons of God" (Isa. 45:11), exclaiming, "Surely God is in thee" (v. 4). As "joint-heirs with Christ" of the glory of God, they will be "glorified together" with Him (Rom. 8:17).

There is no parallel in these apocalyptic expressions to the doctrine of the Trinity; rather, they reflect the concept of God in multiplicity, not in Trinity. In the Greek, "glory," "honor," and "power" each have the definite article, indicating that the supreme glory, honor, and power are invested in the Son, though these are also shared by the redeemed. Glory relates to dignity, honor to position, and power to the ability to perform.

F2F

 

[Scott Downey]

The seven spirits of God.

A good read.

What are the seven spirits of God? | GotQuestions.org

What are the seven spirits of God? Do the seven spirits of God refer to the fact that God is complete and perfect?

www.gotquestions.org

 

[face2face]

"From the seven spirits"

While there is only one spirit (Eph. 4:4), it is manifested in various ways, and during the time of the Apostles, it worked through many individuals (1 Cor. 12:8). The term "seven spirits" expresses the idea of "one spirit" in its complete and diverse manifestations, as the number seven in symbolism represents fullness or unity in diversity. Therefore, the phrase defines the "one spirit" in its total, multifaceted form.
Yahweh reveals Himself to humanity through His spirit, which is His power by which He accomplishes all things. Consequently, "grace and peace" from Yahweh can only be received through His spirit, as it is the channel for everything He does. What constitutes His spirit today? Scripture answers that it is the Truth (see John 6:63; Eph. 6:17; 1 John 5:6). The spirit is the means of sanctification (John 17:17) and is described as the "power of God unto salvation" (Rom. 1:16). A person's character is purified by "obeying the truth" (1 Pet. 1:22) or the spirit-word (John 6:63; Gal. 5:16-17), which is compared to incorruptible seed leading to eternal life (1 Pet. 1:23).

In this context, however, the "seven spirits" are portrayed as servants waiting "before the throne" of Yahweh, ready to carry out His commands. Yahweh uses His spirit, in all its manifold forms, much like we use electricity. It becomes our servant, enabling us to communicate with others at a distance or perform tasks remotely. Yahweh works similarly through His spirit. It was by the spirit that the Apocalypse was revealed to John on Patmos (see Rev. 2:7, etc.). Notably, seven angels were repeatedly used for this purpose, and Hebrews 1:7 describes these angels as "spirits." The seven angelic spirits of the Apocalypse represent the entire unified host of heaven.

"Which are before His throne"

In the Greek, the verb is singular, while the noun is plural, which is an unusual grammatical construction. This is a Hebraism sometimes found in the Old Testament, where one motivating power energizes a group. For example, the plural noun "Elohim" is often used with a singular verb, indicating that although many angels may be at work, the one unifying force behind them is Yahweh. A similar principle seems to be at play here. "Seven is the symbol of unity and perfection. Therefore, representing the one spirit, the verb is singular, in line with the singular power of Yahweh working through the seven spirits. 'The seven spirits which is,' not 'which are before the throne.' There is only one spirit, and this one spirit is the nominative to the verb 'is.'

"And from Jesus Christ who is the faithful witness" - The name of the Lord signifies that salvation has been brought through the anointing (see Psalm 80:17). He is the "faithful witness," as all that humanity needs to understand about the Father is revealed in the Son (John 14:9). His resurrection serves as the assurance that Yahweh will accomplish His purpose (Acts 17:31), proving that we can fully trust in the promises of the Word (2 Cor. 1:19-20).

"The first begotten of the dead" - He is the firstborn from the dead, although not the first to be raised from death (see 1 Cor. 15:23). Unlike other resurrections, His resurrection affirms that He is, indeed, the Son of God (Rom. 1:4).

 

[Scott Downey]

The one John turns to see is Christ, the Alpha, and the Omega, the Almighty.

Revelation 1:8
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

9 I, John, [f]both your brother and companion in the tribulation and kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was on the island that is called Patmos for the word of God and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, 11 saying, [g]“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last,” and, “What you see, write in a book and send it to the seven churches [h]which are in Asia: to Ephesus, to Smyrna, to Pergamos, to Thyatira, to Sardis, to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea.”

And God is as well
Revelation 21
5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said [a]to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”

6 And He said to me, “It[b] is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. 7 He who overcomes [c]shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son.

And again Rev 22

Jesus Testifies to the Churches​

12 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the [f]Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”

14 Blessed are those who [g]do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 [h]But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.

16 “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.”

17 And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.
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IT is undeniably true, according to their own words, God and Christ are the alpha and the omega, beginning, and ending, first and last, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.
GREAT is the MYSTERY of GODLINESS.

 

[face2face]

IT is undeniably true, according to their own words, God and Christ are the alpha and the omega, beginning, and ending, first and last, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.
GREAT is the MYSTERY of GODLINESS.

Scott, Christ has both a beginning and an end; you need to understand Him who has no beginning or end – the One who is the Author of every beginning and end.

His manifestation in man has a beginning and an end. He "is" manifested in the Lord Jesus, and He "will be" manifested in the sons of Adam, over whom Christ is the Alpha and the Omega. Refer to 1 John 3:1, Romans 8:19, and compare Isaiah 44:6 with Isaiah 41:4. In the former, the word "last" is singular, referring specifically to the Lord Jesus, while in the latter, it is plural, indicating a more multitudinous sense. In this context, therefore, Alpha and Omega represents the title of Yahweh as manifested in the collective Christ, over whom the Lord Jesus is the head.

F2F

 

[Scott Downey]

Scott, Christ has both a beginning and an end; you need to understand Him who has no beginning or end – the One who is the Author of every beginning and end.

His manifestation in man has a beginning and an end. He "is" manifested in the Lord Jesus, and He "will be" manifested in the sons of Adam, over whom Christ is the Alpha and the Omega. Refer to 1 John 3:1, Romans 8:19, and compare Isaiah 44:6 with Isaiah 41:4. In the former, the word "last" is singular, referring specifically to the Lord Jesus, while in the latter, it is plural, indicating a more multitudinous sense. In this context, therefore, Alpha and Omega represents the title of Yahweh as manifested in the collective Christ, over whom the Lord Jesus is the head.

F2F

Beginning and ending is not referring to their natures.
Beginning and ending is them as Creator.
They create beginnings and endings, not that they have a beginning and ending.

If it was as your saying then Christ has an ending to go with a beginning.

 

[face2face]

Beginning and ending is not referring to their natures.
Beginning and ending is them as Creator.
They create beginnings and endings

God's nature has no beginning or end.

Christ, however, had both a beginning and an end – and that is the key point!

Not They create - there is only One Creator

F2F

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Scott, Christ has both a beginning and an end; you need to understand Him who has no beginning or end – the One who is the Author of every beginning and end.

His manifestation in man has a beginning and an end. He "is" manifested in the Lord Jesus, and He "will be" manifested in the sons of Adam, over whom Christ is the Alpha and the Omega. Refer to 1 John 3:1, Romans 8:19, and compare Isaiah 44:6 with Isaiah 41:4. In the former, the word "last" is singular, referring specifically to the Lord Jesus, while in the latter, it is plural, indicating a more multitudinous sense. In this context, therefore, Alpha and Omega represents the title of Yahweh as manifested in the collective Christ, over whom the Lord Jesus is the head.

F2F

Heb 7: 3 without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, remains a priest continually.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

God's nature has no beginning or end.

Christ, however, had both a beginning and an end – and that is the key point!

Not They create - there is only One Creator

F2F

This is wrong

Jesus (the man) had a begining, His flesh life had an end. But it was as prophesied restored.

Christ however, Had no begining or end. No father or mother.

 

[face2face]

Heb 7: 3 without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, remains a priest continually.

You know whats the teaching Eternally? You know the context right?

 

[Scott Downey]

Hebrews 7 proves Christ has no beginning or ending
This is teaching about the Priesthood of Christ.

The King of Righteousness​

1 For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him, 2 to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all, first being translated “king of righteousness,” and then also king of Salem, meaning “king of peace,” 3 without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, remains a priest continually.

4 Now consider how great this man was, to whom even the patriarch Abraham gave a tenth of the [a]spoils. 5 And indeed those who are of the sons of Levi, who receive the priesthood, have a commandment to receive tithes from the people according to the law, that is, from their brethren, though they have come from the loins of Abraham; 6 but he whose genealogy is not derived from them received tithes from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises. 7 Now beyond all contradiction the lesser is blessed by the better. 8 Here mortal men receive tithes, but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives. 9 Even Levi, who receives tithes, paid tithes through Abraham, so to speak, 10 for he was still in the loins of his father when Melchizedek met him.

Need for a New Priesthood​

11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. 13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has [b]officiated at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning [c]priesthood. 15 And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises another priest 16 who has come, not according to the law of a fleshly commandment, but according to the power of an endless life. 17 For [d]He testifies:

“You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek.”
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness, 19 for the law made nothing [e]perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

Greatness of the New Priest​

20 And inasmuch as He was not made priest without an oath 21 (for they have become priests without an oath, but He with an oath by Him who said to Him:

“The Lord has sworn
And will not relent,
‘You are a priest [f]forever
According to the order of Melchizedek’ ”),
22 by so much more Jesus has become a [g]surety of a better covenant.

23 Also there were many priests, because they were prevented by death from continuing. 24 But He, because He continues forever, has an unchangeable priesthood. 25 Therefore He is also able to save [h]to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.

26 For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, [i]harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; 27 who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself. 28 For the law appoints as high priests men who have weakness, but the word of the oath, which came after the law, appoints the Son who has been perfected forever.

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[face2face]

Hebrews 7 proves Christ has no beginning or ending
This is teaching about the Priesthood of Christ.

The King of Righteousness​

1 For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him, 2 to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all, first being translated “king of righteousness,” and then also king of Salem, meaning “king of peace,” 3 without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, remains a priest continually.

4 Now consider how great this man was, to whom even the patriarch Abraham gave a tenth of the [a]spoils. 5 And indeed those who are of the sons of Levi, who receive the priesthood, have a commandment to receive tithes from the people according to the law, that is, from their brethren, though they have come from the loins of Abraham; 6 but he whose genealogy is not derived from them received tithes from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises. 7 Now beyond all contradiction the lesser is blessed by the better. 8 Here mortal men receive tithes, but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives. 9 Even Levi, who receives tithes, paid tithes through Abraham, so to speak, 10 for he was still in the loins of his father when Melchizedek met him.

Need for a New Priesthood​

11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. 13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has [b]officiated at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning [c]priesthood. 15 And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises another priest 16 who has come, not according to the law of a fleshly commandment, but according to the power of an endless life. 17 For [d]He testifies:

“You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek.”
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness, 19 for the law made nothing [e]perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

Greatness of the New Priest​

20 And inasmuch as He was not made priest without an oath 21 (for they have become priests without an oath, but He with an oath by Him who said to Him:

“The Lord has sworn
And will not relent,
‘You are a priest [f]forever
According to the order of Melchizedek’ ”),
22 by so much more Jesus has become a [g]surety of a better covenant.

23 Also there were many priests, because they were prevented by death from continuing. 24 But He, because He continues forever, has an unchangeable priesthood. 25 Therefore He is also able to save [h]to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.

26 For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, [i]harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; 27 who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself. 28 For the law appoints as high priests men who have weakness, but the word of the oath, which came after the law, appoints the Son who has been perfected forever.

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@Eternally Grateful

This is just crazy business!

This passage compares the priesthood of Melchizedek with that of Christ to demonstrate the superiority of Christ's priesthood over the Aaronic priesthood.

It does not address the nature or origin of Christ. This can be seen in the following points:

Jesus had both a mother (Mary) and a father (God) (Luke 1:35). His earthly genealogy is detailed in the early chapters of both Matthew's and Luke's Gospels (Matthew 1; Luke 3).

Jesus experienced death, marking the end of His earthly life. After His resurrection, He stated, "I am he that liveth, and was dead" (Revelation 1:18). He now lives "forevermore," having been raised by His Father from the dead (Acts 13:29-30).

The superiority of Christ’s priesthood is established in the Epistle to the Hebrews through the following points:

The Levitical priesthood was based on descent (e.g., Ezra 2:61, 62), but there is no mention of Melchizedek's lineage in Scripture. He appears in the Genesis account without any family background, and nothing is said about his later life. Thus, Melchizedek serves as a type of Christ’s priesthood.

The writer of Hebrews explains that Christ "has become a priest not according to a legal requirement concerning bodily descent but by the power of an indestructible life" (Hebrews 7:16, RSV).

This highlights the superiority of Christ's priesthood, as He "abideth a priest continually" (verse 3), and His priesthood is not based on hereditary qualifications.

The Levitical priests received tithes according to the Law (verse 5), yet their inferiority is implied because, in a figurative sense, they paid tithes to Melchizedek while still in the loins of Abraham, their ancestor (verses 5, 9, 10).

F2F

 

[ElieG12]

As well as all the angels of God worshipping Christ.

They are lacking in recognizing this fundamental truth and refuse to worship Christ, even though the apostles of the Lord did worship Him as did many others as recorded in scripture. ...

Remember that the Scriptures weren't written in English.
Do you actually know which Greek word is translated "to worship" in English?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

@Eternally Grateful

This is just crazy business!

This passage compares the priesthood of Melchizedek with that of Christ to demonstrate the superiority of Christ's priesthood over the Aaronic priesthood.

It does not address the nature or origin of Christ. This can be seen in the following points:

Jesus had both a mother (Mary) and a father (God) (Luke 1:35). His earthly genealogy is detailed in the early chapters of both Matthew's and Luke's Gospels (Matthew 1; Luke 3).

Jesus experienced death, marking the end of His earthly life. After His resurrection, He stated, "I am he that liveth, and was dead" (Revelation 1:18). He now lives "forevermore," having been raised by His Father from the dead (Acts 13:29-30).

The superiority of Christ’s priesthood is established in the Epistle to the Hebrews through the following points:

The Levitical priesthood was based on descent (e.g., Ezra 2:61, 62), but there is no mention of Melchizedek's lineage in Scripture. He appears in the Genesis account without any family background, and nothing is said about his later life. Thus, Melchizedek serves as a type of Christ’s priesthood.

The writer of Hebrews explains that Christ "has become a priest not according to a legal requirement concerning bodily descent but by the power of an indestructible life" (Hebrews 7:16, RSV).

This highlights the superiority of Christ's priesthood, as He "abideth a priest continually" (verse 3), and His priesthood is not based on hereditary qualifications.

The Levitical priests received tithes according to the Law (verse 5), yet their inferiority is implied because, in a figurative sense, they paid tithes to Melchizedek while still in the loins of Abraham, their ancestor (verses 5, 9, 10).

F2F

Before abraham existed, I always existed.

If you think we just go off one verse. you would be mistaken. We take scripture as a whole.

Many believe Melchiizedech was the pre-incarnate christ himself.

I am not saying I will go this far.

But the author is saying Like christ. he has no begining or end, no father or mother.

If it does not relate to christ, then it is nonsensical to even put it in the word.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Remember that the Scriptures weren't written in English.
Do you actually know which Greek word is translated "to worship" in English?

Matt 4: 10, you shall worhip the lord your God and only him

Proskyneo - to worship. to prostrate oneself, to bow down

Matt 14: 33 Those who were in the boat came and worshiped him (christ)

Proskyneo - to worship to prostrate oneself. to bow down

 

[ElieG12]

Matt 4: 10, you shall worhip the lord your God and only him

Proskyneo - to worship. to prostrate oneself, to bow down

Matt 14: 33 Those who were in the boat came and worshiped him (christ)

Proskyneo - to worship to prostrate oneself. to bow down

The same word is used here:

Rev. 3:9 Look! I will make those from the synagogue of Satan who say they are Jews yet are not, but are lying—look! I will make them come and bow before your feet and make them know that I have loved you.

Do you think Jesus will make "fake Jews" to worship true Christians?

 

[ElieG12]

Before abraham existed, I always existed...

Does it say "always existed"?