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Ritajanice
Born-Again
I continue to rebuke your teaching, in Jesus Name,,none of what you preach is biblical..it’s like a fantasy story and now I recognise it..Praise God.
Jesus said.. "if i be lifted up (on the Cross) I will DRAW.... = ALL people to myself".
A.) ALL
And some who are "drawn" will "REFUSE".. as Jesus stated that you read.
amigo de christo
Well-Known Member
GO ye into all the world and preach the gospel to everyone
he who HEARS and believes shall be saved
but unto those who hear and believe not they shall be damned .
LET the bride say come ,
let whosoever WILL take of the water of life freely . ITS BEEN OFFERED MY FRIEND
but many do reject . WHO SO EVER WILL let him drink .
amigo de christo
Well-Known Member
for it is Only by the SPIRIT one can even call HIM LORD
and by the SPIRIT can no man call him accursed .
How is that for scripture dear sister .
You are a silly religious person, who is very confused, and your flesh enjoys arguing.
So, that is very carnal.
And you can "rebuke" until your rebuker is broken, and it has no effect on anything,.. nothing.
Ive had at least 5 other people on this very forum, in the last 4 yrs... who were Calvinist or worse, and they hated me, and rebuked me, and "cast me out", and defined me as a Gnostic, and so forth, and they are all GONE, and im still here lifting up Jesus on the Cross.
Thats a fact.
So...You are rebuking the Truth, with Hyper Calvinism LIES>.. just like Brightframe and Ronald Nolette, and a few others.....so, what does that say about you and what you believe @Ritajanice ....
Ritajanice
Born-Again
I can only believe in Jesus spiritually after I was Born Of The Spirit...
Your post should be saying, we must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God ,my question is, why isn’t it?
Why don’t you testify that God is a Living Spirit?
NO.
You post verses that have NOTHING TO DO with the discussion at hand.
You post pages of verses and then don't explain what you mean by them.
You're not good at aligning verses to the topic.
BUT
I want to say this since I don't care to discuss with you more than absolutely necessary.
You keep asking @Behold and me HOW we know
1. That we chose to believe in God or
2. How we know that we're born again
The second question should never be asked of anyone UNLESS the question is very sincere,,,,in your case it IS NOT.
As to the first question as to how we can know we put our faith in God BEFORE we were born again,
here's my answer to you:
How do YOU know ANYTHING?
Do you know you woke up this morning?
Do you know you want to go food shopping today?
Do you know you need to return someone's phone call?
HOW?
Same for knowing how we put faith in God BEFORE becoming born again persons.
Because the ordo salutis is NOT what YOU think it is.
FIRST we come to know that God exists and we DECIDE to put our faith IN HIM.
AT THAT POINT....we become born again.
In YOUR theoloy dear RJ.....
one must become born again before they can become born again.
Do you REALIZE how DUMB that idea is??
Do you ever wonder that MAYBE one day you should open up the NT and actually read it from cover to cover and THEN
you would understand all of Jesus' words:
Like these for instance:
John 3:5 JESUS STATES THAT TO SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD A PERSON MUST BE BORN AGAIN.
John 3:16 JESUS TEACHES HOW A PERSON CAN BE BORN AGAIN.
John 3:20-21 JESUS TEACHES HOW TO BEHAVE - WE GO TO THE LIGHT OR WE DO NOT GO TO THE LIGHT.
Jesus said TO GO TO THE LIGHT....
This means that we are ABLE to CHOOSE to go to the light so as to become born again.
amigo de christo
Well-Known Member
No man can call HIM LORD but by the SPIRIT . its what i been saying rita . You act as though
just cause a man reminds all to read the bible that somehow that is not LOVING GOD .
Yet i keep bringing scrips to show you . It is written that no man can call HIM LORD but by THE SPIRIT .
in fact i just wrote that to you when you asked The other man for scrips .
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Your truth is not Gods and I’ve come to recognise your truth..therefore I will always rebuke your testimony, because it doesn’t line up with the written word, you are a deceiver..uncovered at last.
Marvelloustime
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Ritajanice
Born-Again
I ask you again, how do you know that you are Born Of God and whose seed remains in you?
You preach religion @GodsGrace .you lead yourself through God’s word..you have no knowledge of spiritual matters..you have no eyes to see, no ears to hear..you need divine heart revelation.
You read that Jesus told YOU that a person can "refuse to believe" and you can't even believe the word of Jesus..
So, im ok , no matter what you believe, but you are not OK, .....
And 3 other Real Christians, who are not owned by Calvinism, have tried to talk to you, and help.
You wont have it, and thats on you.
Same as i told you the last 5x you asked me.
So, you have nothing to offer, you are lost in Calvinism, you dont understand verses you post, and now you want to believe you are led of the Spirit to deny that Jesus said you can "refuse to come to Him".
So, you are the problem........you.
amigo de christo
Well-Known Member
i have a real simple solutoin rita . Why dont you let people know HOW YOU KNOW you are born of GOD .
And while we are at this question
let us realize that there are still many who can cliam they are and yet they lead people into sin
into interfaith , into a false love they think is of GOD .
SO my question is Since many men , heck anyone , even false religions can claim they are of GOD , claim to be of GOD
HOW IS IT one knows . a huge hint
if their god , their spirit , even their version of JESUS is CONTRADICTING BIBLE TRUTH ,WELL THAT IS A REAL GOOD
BIG OL INDICATION they are NOT HEARING FROM GOD AT ALL sister .
SO my advice does remain the same . WE DO need to be learning our bibles . IN FACT
it was the SPIRIT that PUT the love for GOD upon my heart and into the BIBLE rita . WHEREIN
by that CHARITY , BY THAT LOVE the SPIRIT SHED ON ME , I REJOICED IN THAT LOVELY TRUTH and
by his Grace have continued to do so daily .
Ritajanice
Born-Again
No scripture I see, to support your fantasy story,Good day to you.
please don’t teach your fantasy story to me..my ears have cotton wool in them , when I read your posts.
You will never deceive this child of God.
amigo de christo
Well-Known Member
Charity rejoices in TRUTH my friends , what charity does not do is call TRUTH fallible . YOU all keep that in mind .
SOMETHING is going wrong.
CHARITY rejoices IN TRUTH and EVERY WORD of GOD is TRUTH . GOD is TRUTH , CHRIST IS TRUTH , THE SPIRIT IS TRUTH
and HE INSPIRES truth . HIS words are truth . yet many sure dont seem to rejoice in the scriptures , lest its twisted scrips .
so why is it so many hearts SEEM TO NOT REJOICE in THE TRUTH
but at best they rejoice in what MEN twisted in the bible unto their own destruction AS being truth .
Many rejoice in truth that is NO TRUTH , its men and twisted versions they rejoice in . THIS is not to accuse
or to condemn anyone , ITS JUST to HELP REMIND US .
SOMETHING is going wrong.
CHARITY rejoices IN TRUTH and EVERY WORD of GOD is TRUTH . GOD is TRUTH , CHRIST IS TRUTH , THE SPIRIT IS TRUTH
and HE INSPIRES truth . HIS words are truth . yet many sure dont seem to rejoice in the scriptures , lest its twisted scrips .
so why is it so many hearts SEEM TO NOT REJOICE in THE TRUTH
but at best they rejoice in what MEN twisted in the bible unto their own destruction AS being truth .
Many rejoice in truth that is NO TRUTH , its men and twisted versions they rejoice in . THIS is not to accuse
or to condemn anyone , ITS JUST to HELP REMIND US .
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Ritajanice
Born-Again
I rejoice in knowing God in my heart/ spirit.
You preach religion...self taught religion you teach,I see no life of God coming out of your mouth.
amigo de christo
Well-Known Member
THEN i leave us with what JESUS himself said . My words are spirit and they are Life .
yet it sure seems that many do not want to rejoice in HIS WORDS .
Its not i who preach religoin . LEST ye think paul preached religoin
when he wrote to timothy and reminded him about the DIRE IMPORTANCE of the SCRIPS .
I think most people that wont really read the bible for themselves
and rather heed men who twist stuff are the ones who follow RELIGOIN and NOT GOD .
Every word of CHRIST , OF GOD is meat to the soul of a lamb .
Charity rejoices in TRUTH rita . never forget that . And i while i KNOW GOD
still speaks to us today through the SPIRIT , through men who speak by the SPIRIT
i also know a whole ton of folks claim to have the SPIRIT and claim to teach by the SPIRIT
and yet what they teach sure contradicts and twists the very words in that bible that I KNOW THE SPIRIT INSPIRED . keep that in mind .
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