The Future Great Tribulation Is 3.5 Years Long, The Beast And Two Witnesses Will Be On This Earth In Power Until The End

[Truth7t7]

The book of Revelation is seen in "Parallel" teachings of same events, not "Chronological" as dispensationalism falsely teaches

Example: Revelation 11:18 Is The One And Only Final Judgement, A Parallel Teaching Of Revelation 20:11-15 in Final Judgement

"Fact" The Scripture Below Teaches (The Beast) and (Two Witnesses) Are On This Earth Together To See The "Last Day" Where The 7th Angel Sounds (The End) In Final Judgement

You clearly see in Revelation 13:5 that (The Beast) is given 42 months/3.5 years

Revelation 13:5KJV
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

You clearly see in Revelation 11:3 that the (Two Witnesses) are given 1260 days/3.5 years

Revelation 11:3KJV
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

You see (The Beast) killing the (Two Witnesses) upon this earth Rev 11:7, both were given 3.5 years of power, you see the (Two Witnesses) laying dead in Jerusalem for 3.5 days in the street as the world celebrates, you see the (Two Witnesses) raised to heaven as the 2nd woe in the Great earthquake takes place, the 3rd woe comes quickly in the 7th angel sounding (The End) Revelation 11:18 the final judgment (The End)

Conclusion: (The Beast) and (Two Witnesses) are present upon earth in power for the exact same time of 3.5 years in "Parallel" and this time ends in the 7th angel sounding in the second coming final judgment (The End)

Revelation 11:7-18KJV
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

 

[Davidpt]

The book of Revelation is seen in "Parallel" teachings of same events, not "Chronological" as dispensationalism falsely teaches

Example: Revelation 11:18 Is The One And Only Final Judgement, A Parallel Teaching Of Revelation 20:11-15 in Final Judgement

"Fact" The Scripture Below Teaches (The Beast) and (Two Witnesses) Are On This Earth Together To See The "Last Day" Where The 7th Angel Sounds (The End) In Final Judgement

You clearly see in Revelation 13:5 that (The Beast) is given 42 months/3.5 years

Revelation 13:5KJV
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

You clearly see in Revelation 11:3 that the (Two Witnesses) are given 1260 days/3.5 years

Revelation 11:3KJV
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

You see (The Beast) killing the (Two Witnesses) upon this earth Rev 11:7, both were given 3.5 years of power, you see the (Two Witnesses) laying dead in Jerusalem for 3.5 days in the street as the world celebrates, you see the (Two Witnesses) raised to heaven as the 2nd woe in the Great earthquake takes place, the 3rd woe comes quickly in the 7th angel sounding (The End) Revelation 11:18 the final judgment (The End)

Conclusion: (The Beast) and (Two Witnesses) are present upon earth in power for the exact same time of 3.5 years in "Parallel" and this time ends in the 7th angel sounding in the second coming final judgment (The End)

Revelation 11:7-18KJV
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

It makes no sense, to me anyway, that if the beast is reigning for 42 months and that it is allegedly paralleling the 1260 days the 2ws are prophesying, why it then is not making war upon the 2ws until their 1260 days are finished? If these time periods are running in parallel this would mean when the 2ws quit prophesying so does the 42 month reign of the beast end. Except nowhere I can see is the beast making war with any saints after it's 42 month reign ends. It does that during it's 42 month reign, not after it's 42 month reign.

Revelation 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Revelation 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Both of these events are involving 42 months. And if they are running in parallel it would obviously mean that when the 2Ws quit prophesying, thus their 42 months have expired, the same has to be true of the beast's reign, that it ends when the 2Ws time ends. So why is Revelation 11:7 showing that the beast makes war with them after their 1260 days expires rather than during their 1260 days if that is paralleling the 42 month of the beast?

Obviously then, the 2ws prophesy first, then when that time is finished, the beast then begins it's 42 month reign. IOW, there are 7 years involved here total, not 3.5 years total. Whether it's a literal 7 years does not matter. The point is, when the 2ws are prophesying, the beast is not reigning yet and doesn't start reigning until the 2ws have finished their testimony first.

Revelation 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.


Do you disagree that the 2ws are saints? And don't these verses undeniably show the beast is making war with saints during it's 42 month reign? So why isn't it making war with the 2ws during it's 42 month reign if the 2ws 1260 days are paralleling the beast's 42 month reign?

 

[tailgator]

It makes no sense, to me anyway, that if the beast is reigning for 42 months and that it is allegedly paralleling the 1260 days the 2ws are prophesying, why it then is not making war upon the 2ws until their 1260 days are finished? If these time periods are running in parallel this would mean when the 2ws quit prophesying so does the 42 month reign of the beast end. Except nowhere I can see is the beast making war with any saints after it's 42 month reign ends. It does that during it's 42 month reign, not after it's 42 month reign.

Revelation 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Revelation 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Both of these events are involving 42 months. And if they are running in parallel it would obviously mean that when the 2Ws quit prophesying, thus their 42 months have expired, the same has to be true of the beast's reign, that it ends when the 2Ws time ends. So why is Revelation 11:7 showing that the beast makes war with them after their 1260 days expires rather than during their 1260 days if that is paralleling the 42 month of the beast?

Obviously then, the 2ws prophesy first, then when that time is finished, the beast then begins it's 42 month reign. IOW, there are 7 years involved here total, not 3.5 years total. Whether it's a literal 7 years does not matter. The point is, when the 2ws are prophesying, the beast is not reigning yet and doesn't start reigning until the 2ws have finished their testimony first.

Revelation 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.


Do you disagree that the 2ws are saints? And don't these verses undeniably show the beast is making war with saints during it's 42 month reign? So why isn't it making war with the 2ws during it's 42 month reign if the 2ws 1260 days are paralleling the beast's 42 month reign?

The two witnesses are the two horns of the second beast.They are evangelical Christian commanders of the king of the norths armed forces .

The beast from the sea which the two evangelical leaders are helping is overcome the same time the two witnesses are.By the beast which ascends out of the abyss.

I expect the two evangelical leaders to be sent to Israel next year by the king of the north who says he will save Israel .

 

[tailgator]

It makes no sense, to me anyway, that if the beast is reigning for 42 months and that it is allegedly paralleling the 1260 days the 2ws are prophesying, why it then is not making war upon the 2ws until their 1260 days are finished? If these time periods are running in parallel this would mean when the 2ws quit prophesying so does the 42 month reign of the beast end. Except nowhere I can see is the beast making war with any saints after it's 42 month reign ends. It does that during it's 42 month reign, not after it's 42 month reign.

Revelation 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Revelation 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Both of these events are involving 42 months. And if they are running in parallel it would obviously mean that when the 2Ws quit prophesying, thus their 42 months have expired, the same has to be true of the beast's reign, that it ends when the 2Ws time ends. So why is Revelation 11:7 showing that the beast makes war with them after their 1260 days expires rather than during their 1260 days if that is paralleling the 42 month of the beast?

Obviously then, the 2ws prophesy first, then when that time is finished, the beast then begins it's 42 month reign. IOW, there are 7 years involved here total, not 3.5 years total. Whether it's a literal 7 years does not matter. The point is, when the 2ws are prophesying, the beast is not reigning yet and doesn't start reigning until the 2ws have finished their testimony first.

Revelation 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.


Do you disagree that the 2ws are saints? And don't these verses undeniably show the beast is making war with saints during it's 42 month reign? So why isn't it making war with the 2ws during it's 42 month reign if the 2ws 1260 days are paralleling the beast's 42 month reign?

PS
Jerusalem has always loved false prophets and false prophets love Jerusalem.
Jerusalem would not kill a false prophet.
The two witnesses will be more than welcome in Jerusalem.

For 42 months while the saints in Israel are being imprisoned and killed.The two witnesses will be giving orders to kill anyone who oppose the Israeli government.

 

[Truth7t7]

It makes no sense, to me anyway, that if the beast is reigning for 42 months and that it is allegedly paralleling the 1260 days the 2ws are prophesying, why it then is not making war upon the 2ws until their 1260 days are finished? If these time periods are running in parallel this would mean when the 2ws quit prophesying so does the 42 month reign of the beast end. Except nowhere I can see is the beast making war with any saints after it's 42 month reign ends. It does that during it's 42 month reign, not after it's 42 month reign.

Revelation 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Revelation 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Both of these events are involving 42 months. And if they are running in parallel it would obviously mean that when the 2Ws quit prophesying, thus their 42 months have expired, the same has to be true of the beast's reign, that it ends when the 2Ws time ends. So why is Revelation 11:7 showing that the beast makes war with them after their 1260 days expires rather than during their 1260 days if that is paralleling the 42 month of the beast?

Obviously then, the 2ws prophesy first, then when that time is finished, the beast then begins it's 42 month reign. IOW, there are 7 years involved here total, not 3.5 years total. Whether it's a literal 7 years does not matter. The point is, when the 2ws are prophesying, the beast is not reigning yet and doesn't start reigning until the 2ws have finished their testimony first.

Revelation 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.


Do you disagree that the 2ws are saints? And don't these verses undeniably show the beast is making war with saints during it's 42 month reign? So why isn't it making war with the 2ws during it's 42 month reign if the 2ws 1260 days are paralleling the beast's 42 month reign?

Dave you give complete disregard to the "Facts" seen in scripture below, as was stated and will be stated again and again and again

Dave you're not going to change the "Facts" of scripture below, there isn't going to be a Millennium on this earth "After" the 7th angel sounds in the 3rd woe, it's "Final Judgement" (The End), will you continue to deny the "Facts" of scripture below?

1.) Does The Beast Kill The Two Witnesses On This Earth As Seen In Verse 7 Below 100% "Yes"

2.) Do The Two Witnesses Lay Dead In Jerusalem For 3.5 Days As Seen In Verse 9 Below 100% "Yes"

3.) After 3.5 Days Are The Two Witnesses Raised From The Dead To Heaven In Verse 12 Below 100% "Yes"

4.) Does The 2nd Woe Take Place In The Great Earthquake "The Same Hour" The Two Witnesses Are Raised As Seen In Verse 13 Below 100% "Yes"

5.) Does The 3rd Woe Come Quickly In The 7th Angel Sounding As Seen In Verses 14-15 Below 100% "Yes"

6.) Is The "Final Judgement" (The End) Seen In Verse 18 Below 100% "Yes"

Below You see (The Beast) killing the (Two Witnesses) upon this earth Rev 11:7, both were given 3.5 years of power, you see the (Two Witnesses) laying dead in Jerusalem for 3.5 days in the street as the world celebrates, you see the (Two Witnesses) raised to heaven as the 2nd woe in the Great earthquake takes place, the 3rd woe comes quickly in the 7th angel sounding (The End) Revelation 11:18 the final judgment (The End)

Conclusion: (The Beast) and (Two Witnesses) are present upon earth in power for the exact same time of 3.5 years in "Parallel" and this time ends in the 7th angel sounding in the second coming final judgment (The End)

Revelation 11:7-18KJV
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

 

[Douggg]

You clearly see in Revelation 13:5 that (The Beast) is given 42 months/3.5 years

You clearly see in Revelation 11:3 that the (Two Witnesses) are given 1260 days/3.5 years

The 1260 days is also in Revelation 12:6.

1260 days +the war in the second heaven time (Revelation 12:7-9) + the time, times, half time (Revelation 12:14) = 7 years.

The two witnesses will be gone for the second half of the 7 years.

The great tribulation begins on day 1185 of the seven years. 1335 days before Jesus returns.

 

[tailgator]

The 1260 days is also in Revelation 12:6.

1260 days +the war in the second heaven time (Revelation 12:7-9) + the time, times, half time (Revelation 12:14) = 7 years.

The two witnesses will be gone during for the second half of the 7 years.

The great tribulation begins on day 1185 of the seven years. 1335 days before Jesus returns.


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The two witnesses are in Jerusalem for the last 42 months as the OP says.The same time the beast from the sea is reigning in Jerusalem.

 

[Truth7t7]

The two witnesses are the two horns of the second beast.They are evangelical Christian commanders of the king of the norths armed forces .

The beast from the sea which the two evangelical leaders are helping is overcome the same time the two witnesses are.By the beast which ascends out of the abyss.

I expect the two evangelical leaders to be sent to Israel next year by the king of the north who says he will save Israel .

I Strongly Disagree, the future two witnesses will be literal prophets returned in physical bodies that die, they bring literal plagues upon this literal world in a complete remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt

 

[Truth7t7]

The two witnesses will be gone for the second half of the 7 years.

I Strongly Disagree

The two witnesses will be present on earth to see the 2nd woe in the Great earthquake, as the 3rd woe takes place quickly in the 7th angel sounding that brings the "Final Judgement" the end of this world just as the OP shows, your claim above is "False"

 

[tailgator]

I Strongly Disagree, the future two witnesses will be literal prophets returned in physical bodies that die, they bring literal plagues upon this literal world in a complete remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt

I strongly disagree.
The two witnesses will be tormenting and killing people for the Israeli government which will reign in Jerusalem till it is overcome by its Muslim enemies.

The man of sin sends those two evangelicals to Jerusalem with his armed forces.

Do you know what the command is for the man of sins armed forces to kill their enemies?

 

[Truth7t7]

The two witnesses will be tormenting and killing people for the Israeli government which will reign in Jerusalem till it is overcome by its Muslim enemies.

Absolute Sci-Fi seen no place in scripture

The Two Witnesses represent "God" in judgement upon "The World", bringing plagues as Moses/Aaron did representing "God" against Pharaoh of Egypt

 

[Davidpt]

The two witnesses are in Jerusalem for the last 42 months as the OP says.

Speaking for myself I don't disagree with that. Except for maybe the part about them being literally in Jerusalem. What I disagree with is, that the 1260 days per Revelation 11 and the 42 months per Revelation 13, that these time periods are running in parallel, thus not 7 years being involved in total, but only 3.5 years being involved in total.

My view is basically the following, right or wrong. 1260 days first, followed by 42 months, followed by 3.5 days. IOW, the 3.5 days they are lying in the street dead, this is meaning at the end of the 42 month reign, not at the end of the 1260 days instead, since that makes nonsense out of the 7th trumpet and would place the 42 month reign of the beast to be involving the 7th trumpet rather than the 6th trumpet and any preceding trumpets. This assuming there is first this 1260 days, then this 42 month reign that follows.

When the 7th trumpet arrives, the beast's 42 month reign ends not begins. Views, such as what @Douggg proposes, as far as I can tell, has the 7th trumpet meaning the beginning of the 42 month reign of the beast rather than at the end of the 42 month reign of the beast. In Revelation 11 the text indicates that the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever, once the 7th trumpet sounds. How does that make logical sense if the beast begins to reign for 42 months as of the 7th trumpet? It doesn't make logical sense. Therefore, the 7th trumpet is meaning at the end of the beast's 42 month reign, not at the beginning of it.

 

[tailgator]

Absolute Sci-Fi seen no place in scripture

The Two Witnesses represent "God" in judgement upon "The World", bringing plagues as Moses/Aaron did representing "God" against Pharaoh of Egypt

So you say scripture does not say the two witnesses torment them that dwell on earth, and you say scripture does not say the two witnesses kill people.
Is that correct?

 

[tailgator]

Speaking for myself I don't disagree with that. Except for maybe the part about them being literally in Jerusalem. What I disagree with is, that the 1260 days per Revelation 11 and the 42 months per Revelation 13, that these time periods are running in parallel, thus not 7 years being involved in total, but only 3.5 years being involved in total.

My view is basically the following, right or wrong. 1260 days first, followed by 42 months, followed by 3.5 days. IOW, the 3.5 days they are lying in the street dead, this is meaning at the end of the 42 month reign, not at the end of the 1260 days instead, since that makes nonsense out of the 7th trumpet and would place the 42 month reign of the beast to be involving the 7th trumpet rather than the 6th trumpet and any preceding trumpets. This assuming there is first this 1260 days, then this 42 month reign that follows.

When the 7th trumpet arrives, the beast's 42 month reign ends not begins. Views, such as what @Douggg proposes, as far as I can tell, has the 7th trumpet meaning the beginning of the 42 month reign of the beast rather than at the end of the 42 month reign of the beast. In Revelation 11 the text indicates that the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever, once the 7th trumpet sounds. How does that make logical sense if the beast begins to reign for 42 months as of the 7th trumpet? It doesn't make logical sense. Therefore, the 7th trumpet is meaning at the end of the beast's 42 month reign, not at the beginning of it.

The 42 months of the beast and the 1260 days of the two evangelicals end at the same time.3.5 days before the 7th Trump sounds.

I expect Donald Trump will send the evangelicals to Israel next year to protect Israel.
He has made it a promise to keep Israel safe and deliver Israel out of the hand of its enemies.

1260 days is 42 months on the Hebrew calendar.


Doug is just wrong all over.

 

[Truth7t7]

Speaking for myself I don't disagree with that. Except for maybe the part about them being literally in Jerusalem. What I disagree with is, that the 1260 days per Revelation 11 and the 42 months per Revelation 13, that these time periods are running in parallel, thus not 7 years being involved in total, but only 3.5 years being involved in total.

My view is basically the following, right or wrong. 1260 days first, followed by 42 months, followed by 3.5 days. IOW, the 3.5 days they are lying in the street dead, this is meaning at the end of the 42 month reign, not at the end of the 1260 days instead, since that makes nonsense out of the 7th trumpet and would place the 42 month reign of the beast to be involving the 7th trumpet rather than the 6th trumpet and any preceding trumpets. This assuming there is first this 1260 days, then this 42 month reign that follows.

When the 7th trumpet arrives, the beast's 42 month reign ends not begins. Views, such as what @Douggg proposes, as far as I can tell, has the 7th trumpet meaning the beginning of the 42 month reign of the beast rather than at the end of the 42 month reign of the beast. In Revelation 11 the text indicates that the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever, once the 7th trumpet sounds. How does that make logical sense if the beast begins to reign for 42 months as of the 7th trumpet? It doesn't make logical sense. Therefore, the 7th trumpet is meaning at the end of the beast's 42 month reign, not at the beginning of it.

Yes Dave your view is wrong as you've clearly been shown (The Beast) and (Two Witnesses) will be on this earth together to see the Two Witnesses raised to heaven as the second woe takes place in "The Same Hour" that has the 3rd woe coming quickly in the 7th angel sounding "Final Judgement" (The End)

Yes Dave it appears you want to deny the "Final Judgement" is seen in Revelation 11:18 following the 7th angel sounding, in a desperate attempt to keep your teaching of a Millennium on earth alive, you don't want to see "The Final Judgement" (The End) because it removes your Millennial Kingdom on this earth that you desire

Yes (The Beast) and the (Two Witnesses) are on this earth for the very same time frame of 3.5 years in parallel not chronologically as dispensationalism falsely teaches

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[Truth7t7]

So you say scripture does not say the two witnesses torment them that dwell on earth, and you say scripture does not say the two witnesses kill people.
Is that correct?

I said no such things that you present above

I clearly highlighted your statement in "Bold Red" and attached Sci-Fi to this statement, try going back to post #11 and read it real slow this time focusing on the words "For The Israeli Government", Big Smiles!

 

[Davidpt]

The 42 months of the beast and the 1260 days of the two evangelicals end at the same time.3.5 days before the 7th Trump sounds.

I expect Donald Trump will send the evangelicals to Israel next year to protect Israel.
He has made it a promise to keep Israel safe and deliver Israel out of the hand of its enemies.

Since you apparently take the 2ws to be meaning false prophets, unless I'm misunderstanding you somewhere along the way, you and I are miles apart here to begin with. Therefore, based on that alone, nothing you can say is going to convince me you are right and I am wrong, since it makes no sense that anyone who takes the 2ws to be meaning false prophets could be right about any of this.

 

[tailgator]

I said no such things that you present above

I clearly highlighted your statement in "Bold Red" and attached Sci-Fi to this statement, try going back to post #11 and read it real slow this time focusing on the words "For The Israeli Government", Big Smiles!

The Israeli government= the beast which received a deadly wound and the deadly wound was healed.

Received deadly wound,- 70 ad
Deadly wound healed -1948

Yes,US evangelicals worship the Israeli government.

 

[tailgator]

Since you apparently take the 2ws to be meaning false prophets, unless I'm misunderstanding you somewhere along the way, you and I are miles apart here to begin with. Therefore, based on that alone, nothing you can say is going to convince me you are right and I am wrong, since it makes no sense that anyone who takes the 2ws to be meaning false prophets could be right about any of this.

I don't understand why someone who claims to be Christian would believe Jesus sends evangelical christians to kill and torment other people..

No ,I can't see these two evangelical christians as being good at all.But I'm.looking at their works.

I can't find where Jesus tells his apostles to torment and kill other people anywhere in the gospel,but these two evangelicals most certainly do.

 

[Davidpt]

Yes Dave your view is wrong as you've clearly been shown (The Beast) and (Two Witnesses) will be on this earth together to see the Two Witnesses raised to heaven as the second woe takes place in "The Same Hour" that has the 3rd woe coming quickly in the 7th angel sounding "Final Judgement" (The End)

Yes Dave it appears you want to deny the "Final Judgement" is seen in Revelation 11:18 following the 7th angel sounding, in a desperate attempt to keep your teaching of a Millennium on earth alive, you don't want to see "The Final Judgement" (The End) because it removes your Millennial Kingdom on this earth that you desire

Yes (The Beast) and the (Two Witnesses) are on this earth for the very same time frame of 3.5 years in parallel not chronologically as dispensationalism falsely teaches

Jesus Is The Lord

BTW, I'm not a Dispy but you appear to be one, though. You are the one, just like the Dispys, that are taking these things in the literal sense. Yet you claim to be Amil. My opinion is that you were likely a Dispy before you became Amil and are somehow trying to make Dispy and Amil compatible with each other since you can't seem to let go of some of your past Dispy views after becoming an Amil. Once again, just my opinion. Maybe I'm right, maybe I'm not.