Both Israelis and Islamists will be wiped out

[Keraz]

The Prophetic Word is very clear: the Jews will be Judged and punished. Only a remnant will survive and they will be so ashamed they will never speak again. Ezekiel 16:63

 

[ewq1938]

It does, you just won't read the verses or if you read them, you reinterpret them.

Ezekiel 20:33-38​

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33 As I live, saith the Lord God, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:
34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.
35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.
36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord God.
37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:
38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.

Zechariah 13:8-9​

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8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

Jeremiah 31:33-37​

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33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:
36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37 Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord.

Romans 11:25-27​

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25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.


The bible proves you uninformed.

Not a word about unbelieving Jews suddenly converting in the endtimes. There is no such event. All unbelievers are gentiles.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Not a word about unbelieving Jews suddenly converting in the endtimes. There is no such event. All unbelievers are gentiles.

Well as these things which god says will happen after those days, they will happen. YOu nit pick because it doesn't say during the tribulation. but I could post many other verses to show this, but if you cannot accept the fact that the bible shows the nation of Israel will be saved in the future, then no amount of other verses will convince you.

 

[Keraz]

the bible shows the nation of Israel will be saved in the future,

But the Bible does not say the nation of Israel will be saved.

There is a nation in the holy Land now, who call themselves Jewish and their nation Israel. That for a start is wrong, their nation is Judah, as David ben Gurion originally intended to call it, but changed at the last moment. The House of Judah separated from the House of Israel soon after Solomon’s death.

This wrongful naming was undoubtedly a Satanically inspired deception, that has been very successful in fooling the world into thinking they are all of ancient Israel, today.

Those citizens of the State of Israel have no proof of their ancestry; all the genealogy records were burned in 70 AD. Jesus said there are some Jews who say they are Jews, but are not.... Revelation 2:9 and 3:9. When the historical record of their descent is scrutinized, it can be seen that very few of those who purport to be Jewish today are really descended from Judah.

So the business of trying to extol a whole group of modern people, as special to God, is wrong. Especially as they don't acknowledge or rely on God as their Protector, the IDF and their nukes are their Sampson Option. Many prophesies tell us that God intends to Judge and punish them; to smash them like clay pots, Jeremiah 19:1-15, to burn the righteous and wicked alike; Ezekiel 21:1-7 and only a remnant will survive. Romans 9:27.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

But the Bible does not say the nation of Israel will be saved.

There is a nation in the holy Land now, who call themselves Jewish and their nation Israel. That for a start is wrong, their nation is Judah, as David ben Gurion originally intended to call it, but changed at the last moment. The House of Judah separated from the House of Israel soon after Solomon’s death.

This wrongful naming was undoubtedly a Satanically inspired deception, that has been very successful in fooling the world into thinking they are all of ancient Israel, today.

Those citizens of the State of Israel have no proof of their ancestry; all the genealogy records were burned in 70 AD. Jesus said there are some Jews who say they are Jews, but are not.... Revelation 2:9 and 3:9. When the historical record of their descent is scrutinized, it can be seen that very few of those who purport to be Jewish today are really descended from Judah.

So the business of trying to extol a whole group of modern people, as special to God, is wrong. Especially as they don't acknowledge or rely on God as their Protector, the IDF and their nukes are their Sampson Option. Many prophesies tell us that God intends to Judge and punish them; to smash them like clay pots, Jeremiah 19:1-15, to burn the righteous and wicked alike; Ezekiel 21:1-7 and only a remnant will survive. Romans 9:27.

You amke human arguments but these are pointless. God knows who are Israelites (that is all 12 tribes as it was originally).

You worry about things you cannot answer. And you demean god by thinking He doesn't know who are His!

But I gave you teh verses from Gods word that shows He will indeed save all tribes tribes of Israel in the future. I will not post them again, for if posting them the four or so times I have you have not gotten gods message yet, posting them again will do no good.

these people are under covenant with god and as He said here:

Jeremiah 31:31-37​

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31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:
36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37 Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord

You need to believe gods word as written and not the commentaries of men.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Both Israelis and Islamists will be wiped out

False!

The nation of Israel in it's current form will in fact be here until Jesus physically returns to earth... it is Israel He will be returning to.

Many keep claiming modern day Israel is not following the OT or the NT either which is true... but a lot of folks forget that the Lord made a promise to Abraham to bless his descendants and this is what the Lord will do since He keeps His Word.

There's many people claiming to be "christians" today that have turned away from the Lord to follow false doctrine just like Israel has done... they are blind just like Israel is and as such they gonna get the same fate of all those to disobey the Gospel and will experience the wrath of the Lord for their disobedience... just like Israel

2 Thessalonians 1:7,8
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Notice the Lord says in His Word He will be taking vengeance on those that do not "know" God (knowing Him is to walk in agreement with Him) as well as those that do not obey the Gospel

 

[Dan Clarkston]

But the Bible does not say the nation of Israel will be saved.

Really... you should get to know God's Word!

Romans 11:26
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

 

[ewq1938]

but if you cannot accept the fact that the bible shows the nation of Israel will be saved in the future, then no amount of other verses will convince you.

No verse in the bible says such a thing.

 

[Keraz]

Notice the Lord says in His Word He will be taking vengeance on those that do not "know" God (knowing Him is to walk in agreement with Him) as well as those that do not obey the Gospel

This applies very well to the citizens of the Jewish State of Israel. Ezekiel 20:45-48, Luke 19:27

Really... you should get to know God's Word!

We are told who the true Israelites of God are; Galatians 6:14-16 The faithful Christian peoples.
NOT the mixed race peoples who falsely call themselves Israel.

If you believe otherwise, then you are deceived and have accepted lies. Believe Jesus; He said the Jews belong to the synagogue of Satan.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

No verse in the bible says such a thing.

I gave you the verses. If you reject them that is your problem before god, not mine. have the last word. No sense talking to you if you reject the plain words of the bible I posted to you.

 

[covenantee]

Really... you should get to know God's Word! View attachment 52628

Romans 11:26
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Isaiah 10
22 For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness.

Romans 9
27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:

A remnant. Not the nation.

Paul identifies the remnant.

Two Israels.

Romans 9
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

1. Of Israel:
Not all Israel
The children of the flesh
Not the children of God
Not the children of the promise
Not counted for the seed

2. All Israel:
Not of Israel
Not the children of the flesh
The children of God
The children of the promise
Counted for the seed

Only one of these two Israels shall be saved.

Romans 11
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Only faithful obedient spiritual "all Israel", comprised of the believing elect beloved remnant from Israel (Romans 9:27; Romans 11:1-5,26,28), and believers from among the Gentiles (Romans 11:11), shall be saved.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

A remnant. Not the nation.

And yet... in the end the Lord saves the nation of Israel.

Romans 11:26
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

We are told who the true Israelites of God are; Galatians 6:14-16 The faithful Christian peoples.

Again, you should get to know God’s Word better.... they are beloved for the fathers' sakes

You should repent of your prideful boasting against the natural branches as God's Word instructs!

Romans 11:18-28
Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Romans 11:11
I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

Those coming against the Jews are derelict in their Christians duties... we should be a witness to the Jewish people, not adversaries out supporting the muzlims .

They are beloved to the Father (Romans 11:28) so being against them is not only in error but it provides an open door to the devil in one's life as cursing the descendants of Abraham comes with a curse

Genesis 12:3
And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Those that think the Lord is no longer honoring His Word claiming He is a liar... there's no help for them!

 

[covenantee]

And yet... in the end the Lord saves the nation of Israel.

Romans 11:26
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Why did you ignore the remainder of my post, which explains Paul's identification of "all Israel"?