WW3 : How to start it.
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quietthinker
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hmmmm, do you think you are above being deceived, Behold?
What do you imagine 'strong delusion' might consist of?......go on, have a go!
Ronald David Bruno
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Who is merging religions? All the main religions: Christianity/ Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism are very different and not cohesive. They conflict with eachother. It's like trying to mix oil and water. None of them can blend with Jesus, only soon will Judaism receive Christ. Even Islam cannot blend with Buddhism or Hinduism.
What ecumenical movement is trying to do is exist among eachother, respect eachother's right to worship peacefully, find common truths to agree with. We can agree about good moral ways of living and what is harmful and evil.
Most major religions share the core morality of the "Golden Rule," which is the principle of treating others as you would like to be treated, emphasizing values like compassion, kindness, justice, and respect for human life, regardless of their differences in belief systems or practices.
Key points about this shared morality:
Reciprocity:
The idea of treating others how you want to be treated is central to most religious ethics.
Universal values:
Concepts like honesty, non-violence, generosity, and forgiveness are widely considered moral values across religions.
These are just temporal ways to get along until Jesus comes.
quietthinker
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I suppose that's why they support and go to war with those they are opposed to including justifying their slaughter!
Triumph1300
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Ronald David Bruno
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So you didn't take my advice to go for a walkabout in the Outback for a long time?I suppose that's why they support and go to war with those they are opposed to including justifying their slaughter!
Now that is a missed opportunity ... you really need a vacation to meditate, decompress.
The real slaughter will come when Jesus returns ... blood up to a horses bridle for two hundred miles.
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quietthinker
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hmmm, yes, a God who can't get enough blood!....Do you take pride in that?
Ronald David Bruno
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No, no one takes pride in vengence and I am not the one enacting judgment. "Vengeance is mine says the Lord". It grieves Him, but it is necessary. Justice is served, it is called Judgment Day.
6000 years of sin and evil comes to a head and either people are in Christ at that time or against Him. He rids the earth of evil doers. That is a good thing and actually people cannot wait for Paradise on earth to be reborn, live and love finally in peace and harmony.
"Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb...
Then I looked, and behold, a white cloud, and on the cloud sat One like the Son of Man, having on His head a golden crown, and in His hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to Him who sat on the cloud, “Thrust in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come for You to reap, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” So He who sat on the cloud thrust in His sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped.
Then another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
And another angel came out from the altar, who had power over fire, and he cried with a loud cry to him who had the sharp sickle, saying, “Thrust in your sharp sickle and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth, for her grapes are fully ripe.” So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and threw it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. And the winepress was trampled outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress, up to the horses’ bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs." Rev. 14:9-10, 14-20
So this is just beyond the horizon. The topic is WW3, this comes shortly after.
Taken
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@Ronald David Bruno
Not about PRIDE. IS about REQUIREMENT.
BLOOD “is” the LIFE of manKIND.
* God “REQUIRES” the death of the LIFE (Blood) of ALL men.
Gen 9:
[5] And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
WHY?
To FULFILL Gods DESIRE and WILL.
Gods DESIRE, is that ALL of manKIND will exercise their own Freewill and CHOOSE God.
Gods WILL, is that ALL of manKIND MUST be MADE “changed”;
BY:
The man Willingly giving their Corrupt Body unto DEATH for God;
AND:
ACCEPT God MAKING them an UNCORRUPTED Body;
AND:
That man FOREVER with God.
“OR”
BY:
The man NOT Willing to give their Corrupt Body unto DEATH for God;
God SHALL;
MAKE that mans BODY DEAD, separate and Destroy that body FROM God FOREVER, and forget that man FOREVER.
** The KEEPING WITH God FOREVER….
** The SEPARATING FROM God FOREVER…
Can NOT be EFFECTED … UNTIL AFTER ….the mans BODY has been MADE DEAD.
1 Cor 15:
[36] Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
1 Cor 15:
[53] For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
Matt 10:
[28] And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Glory to God,
Taken
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Ronald David Bruno
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True. The scripture stating "the blood up to a horse's bridle for 180 miles" in Rev. 14 is symbolic for hundreds of millions dead bodies, not a river of blood.
quietthinker
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You think violence is necessary because you cannot imagine or think of better way to solve a problem when it is pushed . Violence towards others is the way the world assumes is the final solution to a problem.
God in his weakness is far greater/ stronger than Man in his strength so the question is asked, how does God solve a problem/s? He has walked among us so that we can see.....open your eyes!
I think assuming the statement 'vengeance is mine says the Lord' means God is itching to pay back with enacted violence when the time comes...... is Man's overlay onto God.
When God assumes ownership of vengeance it does not mean he is going to be proactive with violence; it means it is his prerogative to do with as he likes.....and how does he like? A self sacrificing Jesus is how God chooses to reveal himself as the fullness of himself....not an other punishing proactive in violence towards those who do not choose him.
Judgement day is us judging God.....whether he is worthy of our worship or no.
God's verdict on his judgement is that of forgiving men for their trespasses.....because he LOVES!
Have you forgotten or haven't you heard, 'while we were yet sinners Christ died for the ungodly' Romans 5:8
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Taken
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An “adult” human body has about 1.5 “gallon” of blood in its veins. Sure blood will flow outside of the body if the flesh is cut…and may have a pool of blood if an artery is cut and the flesh has an opening….
Dead body’s on the earth (dry land) (organs, blood) immediately begin expelling gases, (watery, wet content’s) drying up and begin decaying.)
IF the dead body IS IN a “water bed”…(sea, ocean, river)….the “watery, wet contents’, blood) will mix with the “water bed”….and the flesh also will remain “dampened”, rotting slower, than if on dry land.
Which is NOT to say, the “dead human contents of water and blood” will “become the sea, ocean, rivers)….but will be mixed and corrupt the “seas, ocean, rivers”….even giving the rivers (being a smaller body of water) a red hue from the color BLOOD being spilled into the rivers.
It is revealing the concept…A little corruption IN a holy place spoils the holiness.
A full glass of water, with ONE drop of BLOOD in the glass…spoils / corrupts the water in the glass…no longer suitable for drinking.
It is revealing the concept….(not for EYES of men…ewee blood in the water…RATHER)…
Food AND Water Consumption IS required to sustain the Physical LIFE of a man.
When Food (is eaten by bugs, weather ruins crops, FAMINE occurs) AND when Water IS Corrupted (polluted with toxins, dead mens body’s and blood)….man’s Physical LIFE shall cease.
God Bless you.
Glory to God,
Taken
Taken
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Disagree.
Yes…throughout a mans LIFE TIME…
God judges men…and men judge God.
However JUDGEMENT DAY…is the DAY of PRONOUNCEMENT of the SENTENCE OF God…TO men…
FOR what every individual man CHOSE, per his own individual Belief…
DURING the mans Physical Life-time.
(WITH or WITHOUT God…according to Gods Order and Way).
God bless you,
Glory to God,
Taken
Marvelloustime
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Isaiah 26:21
For behold, the Lord comes out of His place To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity; The earth will also disclose her blood, And will no more cover her slain.
Isaiah 66:16
For by fire and by His sword The Lord will judge all flesh; And the slain of the Lord shall be many.
Jeremiah 25
32 Thus says the Lord of hosts:
“Behold, disaster shall go forth
From nation to nation,
And a great whirlwind shall be raised up
From the farthest parts of the earth.
33 And at that day the slain of the Lord shall be from one end of the earth even to the other end of the earth. They shall not be lamented, or gathered, or buried; they shall become refuse on the ground.
Isaiah 66
“For as the new heavens and the new earth
Which I will make shall remain before Me,” says the Lord,
“So shall your descendants and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass
That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.
24 “And they shall go forth and look
Upon the corpses of the men
Who have transgressed against Me.
For their worm does not die,
And their fire is not quenched.
They shall be an abhorrence to all flesh.”
amigo de christo
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amigo de christo
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But woe unto he or she who judges GOD as though their way be right . Yea i say woe unto such a person
who rejected the counsel of GOD and chose to walk in his own ways which seemed right in his own eyes .
Time we point to Christ JESUS and every lovely word of Truth .
Few days ago I was contemplating the returning of our Lord Jesus Christ.
And I was wondering why we would be caught up off the ground into the air as He is returning?
Can you see what I am thinking?
When He returns, all those still on the earth, who are not with Him in the air, will be utterly consumed by fire and the wrath of God.
When we then inherit the earth, the wicked shall be ashes under our feet, in the Day of the Lord. Malachi 4 prophecy.
We actually won't be enduring the fiery wrath of God, (like the 3 men in Daniel thrown into the fiery furnace even so preserved intact).
We perhaps won't be left on earth to experience and see it up close and personal while He is doing that, as we will be caught up above all of it, in the clouds. This is how it seems to me. That is why we are caught up with Him in the clouds as He is descending to earth, we have been separated from fate of the world
15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are [d]asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
11 Therefore we also pray always for you that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfill all the good pleasure of His goodness and the work of faith with power, 12 that the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and you in Him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
And I was wondering why we would be caught up off the ground into the air as He is returning?
Can you see what I am thinking?
When He returns, all those still on the earth, who are not with Him in the air, will be utterly consumed by fire and the wrath of God.
When we then inherit the earth, the wicked shall be ashes under our feet, in the Day of the Lord. Malachi 4 prophecy.
We actually won't be enduring the fiery wrath of God, (like the 3 men in Daniel thrown into the fiery furnace even so preserved intact).
We perhaps won't be left on earth to experience and see it up close and personal while He is doing that, as we will be caught up above all of it, in the clouds. This is how it seems to me. That is why we are caught up with Him in the clouds as He is descending to earth, we have been separated from fate of the world
The Comfort of Christ’s Coming
13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen [b]asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who [c]sleep in Jesus.15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are [d]asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
God’s Final Judgment and Glory
3 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because your faith grows exceedingly, and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other, 4 so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and [a]tribulations that you endure, 5 which is manifest[b] evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer; 6 since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with [c]tribulation those who trouble you, 7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who [d]believe, because our testimony among you was believed.11 Therefore we also pray always for you that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfill all the good pleasure of His goodness and the work of faith with power, 12 that the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and you in Him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
The Great Day of God
1 “For behold, the day is coming,Burning like an oven,
And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble.
And the day which is coming shall burn them up,”
Says the Lord of hosts,
“That will leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But to you who fear My name
The Sun of Righteousness shall arise
With healing in His wings;
And you shall go out
And grow fat like stall-fed calves.
3 You shall trample the wicked,
For they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
On the day that I do this,”
Says the Lord of hosts.
4 “Remember the Law of Moses, My servant,
Which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel,
With the statutes and judgments.
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
6 And he will turn
The hearts of the fathers to the children,
And the hearts of the children to their fathers,
Lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.”
Jesus did come, and John the Baptist prepared the way for Him.
Matthew 11
13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
14 And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah who is to come.
15 He who has ears to hear, let him hear!
Theologically ??
Absolutely.
See, the way you prevent being lost in Calvinism, or Catholicism, or JW, or Mormon, or any other "ISM", is to do what Paul said.
'"be a follower of me, as i follow Christ".......and you do that by studying His Doctrine, and His Ministry, his walk of faith.
And before you go there........you MUST do what Hebrew 13:9 says to do with your heart, or a "doctrine of devils".. (see above for the short list of man man doctrines of devils).........will get you, just like the verse told you.
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