Davy
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Many miss the fact that there are 5... beast kingdoms shown in the Book of Daniel.
Those who miss that also often make the error of applying Revelation 17 events to PAST HISTORY.
Rev 17:4-14
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
Some deceived brethren try to claim the above is about Roman Church of history during Protestant Reformation (15th-16th centuries in Europe). They thus continue that belief for today also, pointing to the Roman Church and a pope as the prophesied "antichrist". They keep that false belief today even though the very last verse of this Revelation 17 chapter shows this prophecy is about Jerusalem, as it links to the "great city" of Revelation 11:8 where Jesus was crucified.
They also bypass the Biblical prophecy about the future false one to come at the end of this world, which he is to come from the tribe of Judah among the Jews, and of the house of David. It is about a false-Messiah. Lord Jesus Christ is The True Messiah. But the false one that is coming at the end of this world will attempt to mimic Jesus Christ in Jerusalem (see Matthew 24:23-26 where Jesus warned about this for the end).
7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
Those stuck on the Reformation today face a dilemma by the above verse. In Daniel 7, the FOURTH BEAST, which is supposedly past history, was to have those "ten horns". That 4th beast represented the old pagan Roman empire, before Rome was converted to Christ by emperor Constantine. So when is this "ten horns" to manifest? at the end of this world, or is this prophecy already past history? If you listen to the Church denominations that are based on men's doctrines of Preterism, they will have you believe these Rev.17 events were past history. However, that is not so.
Then also, there are those who believe the old pagan Roman empire is to be revived for the end of this world, and that the Catholic Roman Church with a pope represents it, when it does not. And I say this as a Protestant believer on Jesus Christ with a heritage from the first French Protestants that the Roman Church persecuted back in the 15th and 16th centuries Europe. In Daniel 2, five pieces of the beast statue are shown, not 4. Those who believe the Roman empire will be revived for the end see the feet of ten toes made of part iron mixed with part clay as that revived Roman empire. They even try and find a ten kings ("ten horns") relationship for the papacy history in Europe in attempts to prove it.
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Surprising how many simply cannot put all those ideas in red together in their mind. Firstly, per Rev.13, there are two different beasts, the first one is a kingdom beast having ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns. The second beast is about the coming Antichrist, linked with Satan the "dragon". The above in red is showing us this "beast" is about Satan himself, as it's Satan that shall ascend out of the bottomless pit at the end of this world to kill God's "two witnesses" of Revelation 11.
Those final phrase pointers, "the beast that was", and "is not", and "yet is", are about Satan himself. He was the original beast king "that was" when he originally rebelled in coveting God's Throne in that old world prior to this present world. So today still he "is not", meaning he is coming again to covet God's Throne in Jerusalem, but not here yet today. And he "yet is" points to His future coming to do it again at the end of this world, and is when he "yet is".
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
The "seven heads" mentioned are about the 1st beast of Rev.13, a kingdom beast. Many fail to notice that the beast of Revelation 12:3-4 which Lucifer originally rebelled with in the old world also had "seven heads", but only "seven crowns". This is a mystery for many brethren when it should not be. This ultimately means we cannot just apply these "seven heads" to the seven hills of Rome like some do. Instead, these "seven heads" point to areas upon the earth, with a total one-world type application. For the end of this world, these "seven heads" represent the areas on earth which globalist's "one world government" will cover. It means the whole earth.
10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
In Revelation 12:7 forward, we are told that when Satan is cast down to earth, he goes after the symbolic woman which follows God's commandments and have the Testimony of Jesus Christ. And it mentions that he knows he has but a "short time". The above kings represent the beast kings of old, with the 7th beast king being the coming Antichrist at the end of this world, which God's Word points to being Satan himself, the "dragon" of Rev.12:9 and 13:11.
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
Again this is about the idea of beast kings. Satan was the beast king "that was", representing his role at his original rebellion in coveting God's Throne in the old world prior to this present world (see Ezekiel 28; Isaiah 14; Ezekiel 31). As of today, only... Satan and his angels have ALREADY been judged and sentenced to perish in the future "lake of fire" at the end of Revelation 20. Jesus said in Matthew 25:41 that lake of fire has been prepared for the devil and his angels. No flesh-born man has been judged to perish yet today, for that Judgment is only by Lord Jesus Christ after His future 1,000 years reign of Revelation 20.
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
The above is a very easy way to know the "ten horns" have nothing to do with the papacy or the Roman Church and a pope, which deceived Jews are often espousing. The "ten kings" ("ten horns" of Daniel 7) don't receive their kingdom until the arrival of the beast king (Satan) at the end of this world. And they will only reign that "one hour" with the beast king (Antichrist). When do you think that "one hour" that Antichrist will reign represents? The past history of the Roman Church? No... of course not. That "one hour" represents the last symbolic hour of this present world, the coming time of "great tribulation" at the end of this world that Lord Jesus warned us about in Matthew 24.
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for He is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with Him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
KJV
That above in red immediately reveals that the existence of these "ten kings" (i.e., "ten horns" of the Book of Daniel) is set for the very END of this world when Jesus will return to destroy it! That is when these kings will manifest, with the beast king (Satan), for the time of "great tribulation", in Jerusalem, for that is where Lord Jesus pointed to when He quoted from the Book of Daniel about the placing of the "abomination of desolation" IDOL in a standing Jewish temple there.
Those who miss that also often make the error of applying Revelation 17 events to PAST HISTORY.
Rev 17:4-14
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
Some deceived brethren try to claim the above is about Roman Church of history during Protestant Reformation (15th-16th centuries in Europe). They thus continue that belief for today also, pointing to the Roman Church and a pope as the prophesied "antichrist". They keep that false belief today even though the very last verse of this Revelation 17 chapter shows this prophecy is about Jerusalem, as it links to the "great city" of Revelation 11:8 where Jesus was crucified.
They also bypass the Biblical prophecy about the future false one to come at the end of this world, which he is to come from the tribe of Judah among the Jews, and of the house of David. It is about a false-Messiah. Lord Jesus Christ is The True Messiah. But the false one that is coming at the end of this world will attempt to mimic Jesus Christ in Jerusalem (see Matthew 24:23-26 where Jesus warned about this for the end).
7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
Those stuck on the Reformation today face a dilemma by the above verse. In Daniel 7, the FOURTH BEAST, which is supposedly past history, was to have those "ten horns". That 4th beast represented the old pagan Roman empire, before Rome was converted to Christ by emperor Constantine. So when is this "ten horns" to manifest? at the end of this world, or is this prophecy already past history? If you listen to the Church denominations that are based on men's doctrines of Preterism, they will have you believe these Rev.17 events were past history. However, that is not so.
Then also, there are those who believe the old pagan Roman empire is to be revived for the end of this world, and that the Catholic Roman Church with a pope represents it, when it does not. And I say this as a Protestant believer on Jesus Christ with a heritage from the first French Protestants that the Roman Church persecuted back in the 15th and 16th centuries Europe. In Daniel 2, five pieces of the beast statue are shown, not 4. Those who believe the Roman empire will be revived for the end see the feet of ten toes made of part iron mixed with part clay as that revived Roman empire. They even try and find a ten kings ("ten horns") relationship for the papacy history in Europe in attempts to prove it.
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Surprising how many simply cannot put all those ideas in red together in their mind. Firstly, per Rev.13, there are two different beasts, the first one is a kingdom beast having ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns. The second beast is about the coming Antichrist, linked with Satan the "dragon". The above in red is showing us this "beast" is about Satan himself, as it's Satan that shall ascend out of the bottomless pit at the end of this world to kill God's "two witnesses" of Revelation 11.
Those final phrase pointers, "the beast that was", and "is not", and "yet is", are about Satan himself. He was the original beast king "that was" when he originally rebelled in coveting God's Throne in that old world prior to this present world. So today still he "is not", meaning he is coming again to covet God's Throne in Jerusalem, but not here yet today. And he "yet is" points to His future coming to do it again at the end of this world, and is when he "yet is".
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
The "seven heads" mentioned are about the 1st beast of Rev.13, a kingdom beast. Many fail to notice that the beast of Revelation 12:3-4 which Lucifer originally rebelled with in the old world also had "seven heads", but only "seven crowns". This is a mystery for many brethren when it should not be. This ultimately means we cannot just apply these "seven heads" to the seven hills of Rome like some do. Instead, these "seven heads" point to areas upon the earth, with a total one-world type application. For the end of this world, these "seven heads" represent the areas on earth which globalist's "one world government" will cover. It means the whole earth.
10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
In Revelation 12:7 forward, we are told that when Satan is cast down to earth, he goes after the symbolic woman which follows God's commandments and have the Testimony of Jesus Christ. And it mentions that he knows he has but a "short time". The above kings represent the beast kings of old, with the 7th beast king being the coming Antichrist at the end of this world, which God's Word points to being Satan himself, the "dragon" of Rev.12:9 and 13:11.
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
Again this is about the idea of beast kings. Satan was the beast king "that was", representing his role at his original rebellion in coveting God's Throne in the old world prior to this present world (see Ezekiel 28; Isaiah 14; Ezekiel 31). As of today, only... Satan and his angels have ALREADY been judged and sentenced to perish in the future "lake of fire" at the end of Revelation 20. Jesus said in Matthew 25:41 that lake of fire has been prepared for the devil and his angels. No flesh-born man has been judged to perish yet today, for that Judgment is only by Lord Jesus Christ after His future 1,000 years reign of Revelation 20.
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
The above is a very easy way to know the "ten horns" have nothing to do with the papacy or the Roman Church and a pope, which deceived Jews are often espousing. The "ten kings" ("ten horns" of Daniel 7) don't receive their kingdom until the arrival of the beast king (Satan) at the end of this world. And they will only reign that "one hour" with the beast king (Antichrist). When do you think that "one hour" that Antichrist will reign represents? The past history of the Roman Church? No... of course not. That "one hour" represents the last symbolic hour of this present world, the coming time of "great tribulation" at the end of this world that Lord Jesus warned us about in Matthew 24.
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for He is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with Him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
KJV
That above in red immediately reveals that the existence of these "ten kings" (i.e., "ten horns" of the Book of Daniel) is set for the very END of this world when Jesus will return to destroy it! That is when these kings will manifest, with the beast king (Satan), for the time of "great tribulation", in Jerusalem, for that is where Lord Jesus pointed to when He quoted from the Book of Daniel about the placing of the "abomination of desolation" IDOL in a standing Jewish temple there.
