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God still does miracles, he just does them directly, he no longer uses the gift of miracles. Did you read Heb 1:1, 2 and 2:3, 4
I am not denying you have had dreams, but it is not God trying to tell you something because i could have a dream with the opposite meaning and there would be no way to determine which is from God. If the way to determine if it was from God is by consulting the Scriptures, then the dream was not needed.

Yes there is a way to know if it was from God or not. Dream Interpretation isnt some spooky art form, it's more science. Certain things mean certain things, certain colors mean certain things and it is just like anything else, you have to apply yourself to learning it and buy the books on it. I havent bought any books, too poor, lol. But I've watch reruns of John Paul Jackson's show, Dreams & Mystery's where he interprets one or two dreams per show and explains the meanings. But no one single show ever interpreted a dream of mine because the deatils are all different in dreams. Interpretaion is all about the details in the dream.
 

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Right! And with the new testament was the new covenant and came with extra addendums to the original covenant. Nothing ceased, but ...these things were added unto us!

They dont teach laying on of hands any more or hardly anything so people have become blind to the advantage that they could have if they taught it. So people stopped laying on hands (for the most part) and people would pray for healing and so forth and got fewer and fewer results. That made people start not praying like they used to or should.
I prayed for God to heal me and He didnt, so prayer dont work...(Whoa) and they pray less than they should. You have not because you ask not. And what did Jesus teach about it, what did Jesus tell them to do?

Matthew 10:7-9
7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

9 Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses,.../KJV

Aha! Jesus told them to go with the authority of His Name and do all these things themselves. Jesus didnt pray for people to be healed, He just healed them! And all those things which Jesus did you shall do and more!

Whoa. What's more than casting out evil spirits or raising the dead? So what we have here I believe is many Christians are having an identity crises. We all see in scripture that...some are healed with a word, some are healed by the laying on of hands, others by the touch of a handkerchief that Paul(?) touched? (Maybe it was Peter?), and still others dont go out but by prayer and fasting!

So some evil spirits are stronger than others. There is a serious loss of discipline within the church about teaching on the authority that we have been given in Christs Name. Remember this, Jesus already won the victory. All we have to do is to enforce the victory in His name until He arrives!

So take authority over those evil spirits and talk directly to them. Spirit of Infirmity come out in Jesus name, you must obey the Name which is above all Names!

Geez think about it. Jesus even commanded the weather! Remember when he calmed the storm after they woke Him up? Save us!! Oh do it yourself! Lol.

It's awesome to Identify with the Lord Jesus. It will open up new doorways for you! So go! Cast out devils, heal that man! Just do it!
That’s just now what I see in scripture. Cessationism is what I see. Lots of info on it.
 
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Maybe that means that the dream is important and you should seek interpretation?!
I don't think so. I've had what I believe to be spiritual dreams before, and it seems to me there is a clear difference.

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That’s just now what I see in scripture. Cessationism is what I see. Lots of info on it.

That's fine we can disagree if you want. But I've been there and seen it so I know it to be so. So whatever Brother!
 

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Dream Interpretation isnt some spooky art form, it's more science. Certain things mean certain things, certain colors mean certain things and it is just like anything else, you have to apply yourself to learning it and buy the books on it
Having studied this some, an having had an extremely active, vivid, and complex dream life throughout my life, I don't believe that to be true. I think most "dream interpretation" is like reading tea leaves.

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Certain things mean certain things, certain colors mean certain things and it is just like anything else, you have to apply yourself to learning it and buy the books on it.
Yes, you will need to buy books, because you won't find it in the NT. Heb 2:3,4 informs us that miracles have ceased from the second generation of believers onward (see my post on Heb 2:3, 4). The next time miracles will be performed is by the Antichrist and the False Prophet per 2 Thes 2.9
 

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That's fine we can disagree if you want. But I've been there and seen it so I know it to be so. So whatever Brother!
And I know it’s not because millions have tested it in many ways and it always comes up as negative. But as you said, we can agree to disagree.
 

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Yes, you will need to buy books, because you won't find it in the NT. Heb 2:3,4 informs us that miracles have ceased from the second generation of believers onward (see my post on Heb 2:3, 4). The next time miracles will be performed is by the Antichrist and the False Prophet per 2 Thes 2.9

I didnt say dream interpretation is in scripture. What one does when they get an interpretation of a dream is to pray about it and ask for a confirmation of the interpretation. Obviously an interpretation can not disagree with scriptures, and I think the absolute best thing that one might be able to do is to get a 2nd opinion. Not on the first interpretation but simply two interpretations.

I've never been able to do that myself, but I know how to pray for confirmations and have got plenty of confirmations that way. Directly from the Holy Spirit.
 

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And I know it’s not because millions have tested it in many ways and it always comes up as negative. But as you said, we can agree to disagree.

Millions may have tested it in some way and not seen results and I dont doubt that one bit, but I bet you surely that thousands see results every day somewhere.

Millions of people can not even sense the presence of the Lord or hear His voice when He speaks to them because they have their head so full of the world. That makes it hard to hear the Lord. I think people gloss over it in scripture where it says be led of the Spirit because they're not even sure what that means! And as a consequence they dont knock on that door, and continue to be led by the flesh.
 
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I didnt say dream interpretation is in scripture. What one does when they get an interpretation of a dream is to pray about it and ask for a confirmation of the interpretation. Obviously an interpretation can not disagree with scriptures, and I think the absolute best thing that one might be able to do is to get a 2nd opinion. Not on the first interpretation but simply two interpretations.

I've never been able to do that myself, but I know how to pray for confirmations and have got plenty of confirmations that way. Directly from the Holy Spirit.
Just so I understand what you mean by having a dream and it was interpreted, tell me what your dream was about and what the interpreter said it meant.
 

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Millions may have tested it in some way and not seen results and I dont doubt that one bit, but I bet you surely that thousands see results every day somewhere.

Millions of people can not even sense the presence of the Lord or hear His voice when He speaks to them because they have their head so full of the world. That makes it hard to hear the Lord. I think people gloss over it in scripture where it says be led of the Spirit because they're not even sure what that means! And as a consequence they dont knock on that door, and continue to be led by the flesh.
I understand your position. I think a lot of stuff is getting conflated. Different types of miracles are getting conflated into one type of miracle .

So there are the miracles, the little things that happen that seems to be to good to be true. You pray for A and then A happens shortly after in a way that just seems impossible for mere coincidences.

For example years ago in Washington state thousands of miles away from my family and friends. I prayed to God to please let me meet some other men of god. Men who enjoyed studying the Bible, men who enjoyed working out. At that time the last time I hung out with another person other than my then wife or coworkers at work was well over a year. I said that prayer and then went to subway to get us sandwiches snd while there the man making the sandwich (we were all 18-22 years old) was handing a homeless lady a sandwich and Bible. I felt like God wanted me to say hello and reach out but I felt stupid so I said nothing. I went upstairs and told my then wife what happened and she said that was the fastest she ever saw a prayer answered and I should go back. 15 minutes later I was back and he was gone. A woman working there said that man was probably Josh but that was his last day there. I felt defeated and like I failed god. I could not hardly sleep that night and woke up and went to Starbucks about 6am. When I went in I saw a table of guys talking about God and praying and I felt like God gave me another chance and I was going to go there as soon as I got my coffee but as I was I was in line some other told them to shut up, started yelling at them and someone threw a drink. So I coward out and felt really bad knowing I just crapped on God’s miracle twice. So I got my coffee and headed out the door and as I was pushing open I heard someone yelling hey and running towards me. As I turned , thinking something was happening bad, I noticed it was the same guy from Subway the day before making sandwiches. First thing he said was “ I know this sounds weird but I feel that God wanted me to say hey and if you wanted to join our Bible study group and I was going to ask yesterday at subway but felt weird and when I saw you again I knew God was giving me another chance”.

So I 100% believe that was a miracle and from God.

But there is another type of miracle in the Bible that I don’t believe exists anymore. That’s the power of laying on of hands by the apostles to receive a power of the Holy Spirit. The apostles alone had the ability to lay their hands on someone and give them the power of god before the apostles all died. There are no more apostles elected by Jesus himself like the 14. The 12, the one chosen by lots and Paul.

Those who had their hands placed upon them had the ability to instantly heal anyone. They could raise the dead at their fingertips or cast out demons with just a command. They spoken in tongues. They dreamed of doctrinal truth before the scriptures were even completed. They also had dreams of the destruction of the second temple and the anti christ in the first century. That’s something no one can do.any claim it, yet none can go to saint Jude’s and heal kids with cancer instantly. No one is going into the hospital in front of hundreds and raising the dead. The apostles and those who received the power did it in front of believers and nonbelievers alike. Healing hundreds a day. That simply does not exist.

So the guys dream could have happened and been from God. I said so in some of my earliest comments that I believe the Holy Spirit interacts with us and that it could be through dreams. Someone said every dream has supernatural meaning and I disagreed. Not all dreams are miracles. They are just the byproduct of our subconscious mind working through issues. We see evolutionary arguments for this was well. Many have dreams that help them solve a problem to an issue that probably had nothing to do with God. My dad died just under a year ago. A fentanyl overdose. He bought two psi pills to help with a cough that lasted so long it was hurting him. It was that 40 day cough going around. He had no insurance because he did not fill out paper in late October and was having to wait until February to reactive the plan he was with. So he did not go to the doctors for a few pain pills and bought some from a woman he knew and he overdosed and they tried to cover it all up.

I have never been big into mechanical work. Not automotive mechanics. But my dad was. This was two months after he died. I was trying to remember where the tools were and how exactly to just change the brakes and a ball out. Could not remember. Looked all day for the tools. Finally went home. That night I dreamed that my dad came by my house and wanted us to fix my van. In the dream we went step by step and he even got the tool from my grandfathers black tool box. The next day I drove my van to my grandfather who passed away about a year before my dad. My dad Was studying there helping him in last few months and stayed there after he passed. I went to the black tool box and the tools was there and it remembered working with him before and putting them there.the dream jogged my memory on how to change out the brakes. I’ve done it once or twice but not for years and was foggy on it. The dream was a correct and I changed out the bakes feeling at peace.

It could have been from god. But I think it was mostly my subconscious unlocking it all. I did take some mushrooms, that are legal but also psychoactive, and can cause lucid vivid dreaming. I think that is what sparked my memory snd it came to me in my dreams and that it’s not related to the supernatural at all. Or the Holy Ghost could have taken advantage of it. After all, many indigenous people go on seem quests in the same way.

But I would be cautious to presume a dream means that is what God wants you to do. That is no way to verify it.
 

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Just so I understand what you mean by having a dream and it was interpreted, tell me what your dream was about and what the interpreter said it meant.

Ok, how about that bizzare short so called sex dream that I had?

I dreamed that I was in a room alone with two girls. One was a young blond and the other one was a wee bit older and had jet black hair. In the dream neither of them spoke and neither did I. Bit I knew that I was to choose one of them to be intimate with. I chose the Blonde girl and I reached out and took her by one arm...and then I woke up.

I got it interpreted and they said it was a good dream because blonde stands for purity and black stands for impurity. I chose purity so it was a good dream.

At first I thought it was a bad dream because it was about sex and I was trying to walk with God.

But not so I was told. It wasnt about sex but becoming intimate with purity, and that's why I woke up before any sex happened.

...?? What do you think?
 

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I understand your position. I think a lot of stuff is getting conflated. Different types of miracles are getting conflated into one type of miracle .

Conflated? No Brother, not by me. It's about faith and believing God word. I've posted quite a few of testimonies here of miraculous things happening for me when I prayed and the need was great. And over time even when the need was not great but the belief was still there. I even had the Lord answer a prayer of mine that I was about to pray, but remembered in His word it says, don't worry about what you will eat or drink because the Lord knows your needs before you ask. So I did not pray that prayer, and didnt realize it at the time, but that by standing on His word it was an act of faith, so He answered it immediately!

So there are the miracles, the little things that happen that seems to be to good to be true. You pray for A and then A happens shortly after in a way that just seems impossible for mere coincidences.

That's exactly how it happens. Would you like to hear one of my Testimonies in that area?

I was self employed and living in a renatl house a 3 BR place for $1000 a month. I lived there for years. My landlord knew I was self employed and so sometimes I was short on rent. And he would let me slide until I got a job and I would catch him up. But the economy was slowing down and I was getting further and further behind. Business was slow and I was scratchin'.I was recently divorced and she didnt take much, just the gold and money, lol. I had knick knacks from a house of a 26 year marriage that I didnt need in a bachelor pad. SO I strted a garage sale to make a few bucks to help out and maybe help make some behind payments on the rent! All the garage sale really did for me was feed me some more. It didnt amount to enough to make back rent payments. Nevertheless, I was a ful $2000 behind so I set up the garage sale in my detached garage on the inside and would open it up occasionally on sunny days. One saturday I'm sitting out there in the driveway doing the garage sale and my landlord pulled up. He siad I like you Ed but I have bills too and I need to get someone in here that can pay more consistently than you do. Oh, I also had a $300 Utility shut off notice for Monday and this was Saturday. My landlord handed me my 3 day notice and left. Man! I had visions of being homeless! I got depressed. And I sat down and prayed my heart out, Help me Lord. Please. I dont want to be homeless. I've never been homeless.

It was getting dusk by that time so I closed up the garage sale and went back in the house to ponder my woes. I went downstairs to my chair and sat down and as soon as I sat down the phone rang. Hello? I seen your ad about the garage sale, I'm working right now but I'd like to come by and look at your things in 1 1/2 hrs if that is ok with you?
You sure can!
He showed up right on time that he said he would and I took him out to the garage where I had built two 4X* tables out of plywood and had everything set up. And as soon as he walked through the garage door, he said, How much do you need? I dint now what to say to a question like that so I went into salesman mode and started picking up items for sale and talking about them and stuff. And he took it and didnt even look at it, he just sat it down and said, how much do you need? And I went (TILT) like a pinball machine! I didnt answer him. What's he even asking? I dont know him, he's a garage sale customer. And we talk some and he asked me the same question again, how much do you need? (TILT!) I bet he asked me that same question 10 times or more! That was weird and I...had no clue so never answered him that question and finally I suppose he got tirred of me not answering and he says, Well how about $1900 for everything on that table right there?

And I was pretty sure he was was joking, so I didnt answer that either!
So he said, well how about $2400 then? and then I knew it was a joke and I wanted to hear the punch line! So I said, that's fine, to see what he would say...

Because people who buy at garage sale do not talk the price up! They talk it down. I was in full TILT mode and wanted that punch line! And the punch line was he counted out 24 $100 dollar bills and handed them to me, and stuffed a bigger wad back into his pocket!

That stuff was not worth $2400 dollars! No way! Not even close. Who was this guy? He was fit and well spoken, well groomed. He didnt act like an idiot who had more money than brains, so what's going on? And I came back to reality for a second and asked if he wanted some cardboard boxes to box it up and he said yes thank you. And as we were putting stuff into the box, he would pull stuff back out of the box and put it on the table and say oh you can keep that, I wont need it. That either, or that. And he left about 25% of everything that he bought sitting on the table. And we loaded up his truck and shook hands and he drove off. I locked up the garage and was trying to figure out what just happened? I went back into the house and on my way back down the stairs into the family room and I put my hand in my pocket and felt that wad of cash and said, Praise the Lord...and then it hit me! Not even two hours ago I prayed for help and I now, I have enough cash to catch up my rent in full AND pay off my Utility shut off Notice! AND a $100 bucks for groceries! Praise the Lord!

That was no coincidence. Mt soul was there to witness all that happened and was said and hat ignorant dude still tries to argue with me and say, that wasnt God, that was something else. I know better now! I was there. I think I was being restrained from being able to realize it was an Angel before he left.

I cant explain what happened in natural way at all. Garage salers do not act like that. They say will you take $2 if has a $10 price tag on it. Not how about $1900? Well how about $2400 then?

How's that? It happened just like you say. Can you explain what could have happened in a non supernatural way? That's the only answer I see.
 

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For example years ago in Washington state thousands of miles away from my family and friends. I prayed to God to please let me meet some other men of god. Men who enjoyed studying the Bible, men who enjoyed working out. At that time the last time I hung out with another person other than my then wife or coworkers at work was well over a year. I said that prayer and then went to subway to get us sandwiches snd while there the man making the sandwich (we were all 18-22 years old) was handing a homeless lady a sandwich and Bible. I felt like God wanted me to say hello and reach out but I felt stupid so I said nothing. I went upstairs and told my then wife what happened and she said that was the fastest she ever saw a prayer answered and I should go back. 15 minutes later I was back and he was gone. A woman working there said that man was probably Josh but that was his last day there. I felt defeated and like I failed god. I could not hardly sleep that night and woke up and went to Starbucks about 6am. When I went in I saw a table of guys talking about God and praying and I felt like God gave me another chance and I was going to go there as soon as I got my coffee but as I was I was in line some other told them to shut up, started yelling at them and someone threw a drink. So I coward out and felt really bad knowing I just crapped on God’s miracle twice. So I got my coffee and headed out the door and as I was pushing open I heard someone yelling hey and running towards me. As I turned , thinking something was happening bad, I noticed it was the same guy from Subway the day before making sandwiches. First thing he said was “ I know this sounds weird but I feel that God wanted me to say hey and if you wanted to join our Bible study group and I was going to ask yesterday at subway but felt weird and when I saw you again I knew God was giving me another chance”.

So I 100% believe that was a miracle and from God.

That's very believable. That sounds to me very much like something God would do.

I remember one time I had been praying for a visitation from Jesus tot each me and talk to me. I really wanted to see Him and talk to Him in person! And late in the wee hours of morning one night I get woken up by a knock at the door. I went to the window halfway up the stairs overlooking the side patio and there was a black man at my door knocking. It was snowing out and cold. But it didnt click for me. I've had an attempted hpme invasion before and I stopped it at the door, they never got in. So I didnt answer the door to this guy and just watched him, And he got tired of knocking and I watch him walk all the way up the street out of sight. So I went back to bed.

In the morning, I woke up and flipped open my bible to read and it opens to Revelation and my eyes went to 3:20

Revelation 3:20
20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me..../KJV

And I about fell through the floor! I got so discouraged and somehow knew that I had missed my chance. I feel so bad about that. I still do. It wasn't very long ago actually. And I have prayed for a second chance. And He told me that I could have a second chance by bringing up a video on my feed where Another man missed his visitation with the Lord and the Lord gave him a second chance. So I believe that was the Lords answer to me that I will get a 2nd chance.

The guys testimoney in that video was cool! He had been praying for a visitarion and the Lord impressed upon him to watch for Him. And one time he went into a car dealership and there was a hige black guy in there with a loud voice and seemed sort of intimidating. He tried to steer clear of the guy but got approached by this big guy and he says in a big boom voice, so what do think about how the churches are doing this or that? I forget exactly what he said. And he said oh I dont know and he left. And then when he was at home praying He prayed again for a visitation and said the Lord told Him I was there, why didnt you see me? And he had no clue who it was. And was told the big man in the dealership, you couldn't recognize me?

And he about fell through the floor! I'm Sorry Lord, please give me a 2nd chance, and Jesus said oh I will give you another chance. And within a week or two he was at church and was up front before the service started and he saw a homeless type guy walk in and take a seat in the rearmost row and out his head back and shut his eyes....and for some reason he suspected that this homeless guy was really Jesus and didnt take his eyes off of him as he walked up the aisle to greet the man. He said just as he approached the man he sat forward and smiled at him and winked! And it was Jesus in disguise!

So I'll get another chance too and that makes me feel good. I hope I haven't missed him a 2nd time already (Yikes!)
 

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Ok, how about that bizzare short so called sex dream that I had?

I dreamed that I was in a room alone with two girls. One was a young blond and the other one was a wee bit older and had jet black hair. In the dream neither of them spoke and neither did I. Bit I knew that I was to choose one of them to be intimate with. I chose the Blonde girl and I reached out and took her by one arm...and then I woke up.

I got it interpreted and they said it was a good dream because blonde stands for purity and black stands for impurity. I chose purity so it was a good dream.

At first I thought it was a bad dream because it was about sex and I was trying to walk with God.

But not so I was told. It wasnt about sex but becoming intimate with purity, and that's why I woke up before any sex happened.

...?? What do you think?
Well, I don't doubt you had this dream and it was as you described it. But, I wouldn't involve God with it. The problem is that we all have dreams, some more than others, but I really don't think that God is behind these dreams, it is just part of being human. But here is the real problem, let me interpret your dream.

I think that you picked the wrong girl. Blonde is the allegory for being gullible. And the jet black haired girl is a symbol of our need to be more sensitive to middle eastern peoples.

Now, how are we going to decide who is right and who is wrong, or is either of us right? There is no way of determining which interpreter is close to the interpretation of the dream. The interpretation of the dream has no objective basis for its evaluation. The opposite of this interpreter could also be correct. But that is assuming that God speaks to us in dreams.

I wrote a post on Heb 1:1, 2 where we are told that God formerly spoke in dreams but has in these last days spoken (past tense) to us by his son. There is no more speaking through dreams. In fact, Heb 2:3, 4 state that miracles have ceased after the first generation of Christians (the Apostolic Age). Look at chp 2, you will see that the second generation of believers did not perform miracles, the mircles were performed by the first generation of believers.

Secondly, if your dream was a message from God, we really need to add it to the Bible, which is a compilation of God's revelations.

I am sorry, I just can't bring myself to ignore the passages in Hebrews. I either have to believe you or the author of Hebrews.
 

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Well, I don't doubt you had this dream and it was as you described it. But, I wouldn't involve God with it. The problem is that we all have dreams, some more than others, but I really don't think that God is behind these dreams, it is just part of being human. But here is the real problem, let me interpret your dream.

I think that you picked the wrong girl. Blonde is the allegory for being gullible. And the jet black haired girl is a symbol of our need to be more sensitive to middle eastern peoples.

Now, how are we going to decide who is right and who is wrong, or is either of us right? There is no way of determining which interpreter is close to the interpretation of the dream. The interpretation of the dream has no objective basis for its evaluation. The opposite of this interpreter could also be correct. But that is assuming that God speaks to us in dreams.

I wrote a post on Heb 1:1, 2 where we are told that God formerly spoke in dreams but has in these last days spoken (past tense) to us by his son. There is no more speaking through dreams. In fact, Heb 2:3, 4 state that miracles have ceased after the first generation of Christians (the Apostolic Age). Look at chp 2, you will see that the second generation of believers did not perform miracles, the mircles were performed by the first generation of believers.

Secondly, if your dream was a message from God, we really need to add it to the Bible, which is a compilation of God's revelations.

I am sorry, I just can't bring myself to ignore the passages in Hebrews. I either have to believe you or the author of Hebrews.
Dreams from God are vivid, detailed, in color, and complex. You can't forget them. If you have never had one, you cannot understand and because you haven't had one and you don't believe anyone has them. Simple as that. The Holy Spirit speaks to me, but if He never speaks to you, you probably don't believe anyone hears Him.
I wright my dreams down and don't understand most of them until they come true.
 
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But there is another type of miracle in the Bible that I don’t believe exists anymore. That’s the power of laying on of hands by the apostles to receive a power of the Holy Spirit. The apostles alone had the ability to lay their hands on someone and give them the power of god before the apostles all died. There are no more apostles elected by Jesus himself like the 14. The 12, the one chosen by lots and Paul.

I heard a teaching about this. I forget if it was Derek Prince or Ian Clayton? He said it has to do with the Baptisms. Not everybody gets Baptized in water, that salvation is still available to those but with Baptism of water which signifies your death and burial and raising up of you in Christ and this is when the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is given to a Believer.

I learned recently that there are 7 different Baptisms in scripture, but the only teach on two of them, Baptism of water and Baptized in the Holy Spirit. It's a good study.

I believe that nothing has changed or ceased. The Lord does not change, scripture says so. Everything that the apostles did we can do and more. We shall do everything that Jesus did and more.

Those who had their hands placed upon them had the ability to instantly heal anyone. They could raise the dead at their fingertips or cast out demons with just a command. They spoken in tongues. They dreamed of doctrinal truth before the scriptures were even completed. They also had dreams of the destruction of the second temple and the anti christ in the first century. That’s something no one can do.any claim it, yet none can go to saint Jude’s and heal kids with cancer instantly. No one is going into the hospital in front of hundreds and raising the dead. The apostles and those who received the power did it in front of believers and nonbelievers alike. Healing hundreds a day. That simply does not exist.

It depends on the specific evil spirit. The apostles could not cast out the evil spirit from the Epileptic boy and they asked why not? Jesus told them, this kind only ges out through prayer and fasting. So it is a stronger spirit and is more involved to cast out.

We do have to be careful not to get in over our head with evil spirits! That happened in scripture too! What did the spirit say, Who are you? I know Jesus and I know Paul but who are you? And that evil spirit whooped their butt and they left the house screaming and naked. So....everything only by prayer and supplication to the Lord our God. That's why I havent tried to heal anyone on my own yet. The Spirit hasnt told me to! I had a Brother in Christ tell me that he received a word of knowledge about me and that I would have a healing ministry. That's a little bit Whoa! for me. I dont think I would be good on stage with a microphone. Besides, Todd White has a healing ministry and he says he was trying to heal people on the street and praying for them and laying on of hands for over 500 times that it wouldnt work. No one ever got heal for 500 times he prayed and did it. I dont know if I could handle that and keep going.

I guess that's a weakness of mine. But you know what Jesus said? He said that is my first choice because in your weakness is my strength!

I got the unction one time to raise the dead. My wife's little sister got T-Boned by a drunk driver and died. I had no clue what to do but the unction was real. I chickened out and didnt do it. Stage fright I suppose. Should I try in front of witnesses or be alone? How about keeping my big trap shut? That seemed easier at the time. I regret not trying that now. That crushed her family and it would have easily saved the entire family if I had stepped up to the plate but I didnt. Lord help my Unbeelief.
 

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I heard a teaching about this. I forget if it was Derek Prince or Ian Clayton? He said it has to do with the Baptisms. Not everybody gets Baptized in water, that salvation is still available to those but with Baptism of water which signifies your death and burial and raising up of you in Christ and this is when the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is given to a Believer.

I learned recently that there are 7 different Baptisms in scripture, but the only teach on two of them, Baptism of water and Baptized in the Holy Spirit. It's a good study.

I believe that nothing has changed or ceased. The Lord does not change, scripture says so. Everything that the apostles did we can do and more. We shall do everything that Jesus did and more.



It depends on the specific evil spirit. The apostles could not cast out the evil spirit from the Epileptic boy and they asked why not? Jesus told them, this kind only ges out through prayer and fasting. So it is a stronger spirit and is more involved to cast out.

We do have to be careful not to get in over our head with evil spirits! That happened in scripture too! What did the spirit say, Who are you? I know Jesus and I know Paul but who are you? And that evil spirit whooped their butt and they left the house screaming and naked. So....everything only by prayer and supplication to the Lord our God. That's why I havent tried to heal anyone on my own yet. The Spirit hasnt told me to! I had a Brother in Christ tell me that he received a word of knowledge about me and that I would have a healing ministry. That's a little bit Whoa! for me. I dont think I would be good on stage with a microphone. Besides, Todd White has a healing ministry and he says he was trying to heal people on the street and praying for them and laying on of hands for over 500 times that it wouldnt work. No one ever got heal for 500 times he prayed and did it. I dont know if I could handle that and keep going.

I guess that's a weakness of mine. But you know what Jesus said? He said that is my first choice because in your weakness is my strength!

I got the unction one time to raise the dead. My wife's little sister got T-Boned by a drunk driver and died. I had no clue what to do but the unction was real. I chickened out and didnt do it. Stage fright I suppose. Should I try in front of witnesses or be alone? How about keeping my big trap shut? That seemed easier at the time. I regret not trying that now. That crushed her family and it would have easily saved the entire family if I had stepped up to the plate but I didnt. Lord help my Unbeelief.
When the apostles tried to cast out the demon for the boy the power had not yet came. The power of God came in acts 1. It was the promised helper and when they begin to speak in tongues and throughout acts we see that junpstart with healing a lot of people and so on.

The more more seemed to be directed towards the apostles. Anyways. I don’t really like debates. They bore me. I’ve been in debates for over 15 years on everything in the Bible and just sick of it to be honest. I’ve had this same debate about 10,000 online and in person going all the way back to when I was 19. I think when I was 19 I debated cessationism 10x a day online and in person until I was 21 everyday. So now into forums. If the majority of the forum is just debates I bounce. So far, I imagine by next week I’ll just bounce. I’ve found maybe 3 forums and discords out of checking hundreds in the last decade that are not 98% debates but more like 3% debates and that’s what I look for now. Debates are fine. But debating 10 people a day, and heated discussions 20 times a day for 95% of the time I’m on social media is just not something I have time for anymore. Almost everyone is set in their ways. Very few actually change their mind. Far more valuable to talk with college attending young adults and direct them towards biblical scholars, humanitarians and scientists and be there to help guide.
 

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I wrote a post on Heb 1:1, 2 where we are told that God formerly spoke in dreams but has in these last days spoken (past tense) to us by his son. There is no more speaking through dreams.

That's not what it says. It says he talked to the Fathers in times past in many different way through the Prophets. It never specifically mentions dreams or ceasing at all.

In fact, Heb 2:3, 4 state that miracles have ceased after the first generation of Christians (the Apostolic Age). Look at chp 2, you will see that the second generation of believers did not perform miracles, the mircles were performed by the first generation of believers.

That doesnt mean that dreams stopped. It doesnt say that, it says that Jesus began speaking to us for those who can hear and I took as if it is one of those...these things were added unto you rather than dreams and Prophets stopped. It means that Jesus came and paid the price and gave us a modified Covenant wherein we could speak with Him directly if we can hear Him. Where are you saying that it says dreams stopped?

Look here:

Acts 2:16-19
16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:.../KJV

That's new Testament Brother. These are the last days, we know that.

Here:
Hebrews 2:
3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will.../KJV

Jesus paid a high price and He paid it in full. All that is upon the earth has been given to Him. and Jesus acts according to His own will. I still can't see where it says anything ceased. Miracles didnt cease. Dreams didnt cease. Jesus was added unto us. The veil was torn in two upon His death on the cross.

I cant see anywhere in scripture where it says God gave something to man and then took it back again. It says the opposite.
 
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