Behold
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The Cross of Christ is God's universal OFFER of Salvation... to "Whosoever will Believe".... John 3:16...... as = "All who call on the Name of Jesus (by Faith) shall be saved".
God's Hatred
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The Cross of Christ is God's universal OFFER of Salvation... to "Whosoever will Believe".... John 3:16...... as = "All who call on the Name of Jesus (by Faith) shall be saved".
There are different types of love, so it's not a one size fits all deal. The world considers the love of Christians to be hate speech. Then world hates God and hates the gospel message and hates His people, the gospel has the stench of death to those who are perishing so they hate it.
God commands us not to love the world or the things that are in the world. The world in this context is the unbelieving world and the the things they love.
I John 2:15-17, Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not of the Father but is of the world.
We show our love towards our unbelieving neighbors, as a Doctor does to his patient when he reveals a cancer diagnosis. It's a very harsh truth, but the Doctor reveals it out of concern for his patient and in the hope that the patient will cooperate and make some lifestyle changes to help the treatment work. So our love towards out neighbors is bitter medicine to them.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
He means, do not love the ways of the world,I love and show Gods Love, with whoever I meet..many lonely people who don’t know Love, just like I didn’t at one time.
There is nowhere in scripture that says, hate the people of this world..,only God can hate, as “ HE” chooses to hate, as his word says.
My opinion
God's Sovereign Choice
…14What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Certainly not! 15For He says to Moses: “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” 16So then, it does not depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy.…
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We’re all searching for Gods truth.
Look up what God thinks about a ‘know it all”,speaking from my own experience, I know nothing without the Spirit.
That’s your own opinion, I don’t agree with it.with respect.
Only the Spirit is my teacher,I have been called to love my neighbour, God opens my heart to be able to do that, plus we are called to help our neighbour.
We show love to everyone, we do not show Gods hatred...he does that ,by his own ways, that none of us understand, my opinion.
Imitators of God
1Be imitators of God, therefore, as beloved children, 2and walk in love, just as Christloved us and gave Himself up for us as a fragrant sacrificial offering to God. 3But among you, as is proper among the saints, there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed.…
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It's all well and good to devote time to pray and read the bible alone, but God has appointed Shepherds to teach the flock. If God left everyone to interpret the bible in the way they see fit, we would have millions of denominations and not just 47,300
God has given all of different gifts, we don't all have the gift of rightly dividing His Word. That's why He appointed teachers, shepherds, pastors, elders etc.
The ecumenical movement, is about uniting all the denominations upon the premises that there is no absolute truth and everyone's truth is subject to their own views.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
A Born Again doesn’t read the Bible alone, they are led through the word by the Spirit, who brings it to our understanding, in our spirit..it’s written in Spirit.
John 8:47says, “Whoever is of God hears the words of God.” Jeremiah 33:3 says, “Call to me and I will answer you, and will tell you great and hidden things that you have not known.” Isaiah 55:3 says, “Incline your ear, and come to me; hear, that your soul may live.” Psalm 32:8 says, “I will instruct you and teach you ...
1 John 4:1
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4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.No one is a primary teacher on this forum.
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God is, and every member brings something of Gods word to the table.
We need to listen to others and not just the sound of our own voice.my opinion.
None of us should talk down to another, very unedifying.and unfruitful.again speaking from experience, and God showing me the error of my ways.
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Jesus is not the sacrifice that allows man and God to be reconciled to God. That may be your mown private opinion, but Gods Word is against you, because God never said any such thing.
Please find a single verse in the bible to support this private opinion of yours????...
If Jesus is the Savior, then why did He fail to save the vast majority of mankind?????...
God said saved people are "saved by faith" and you reject that and claim that His people are not saved by faith. This is another one of your private opinions which Gods Word exposes as false.
The cross of Christ is not a universal offer. That's your private opinion, you can't find a single verse in the bible where salvation is offered to anyone. So, again it's just your private opinion and there are 8 billion other people in the world with heir own private opinions as well so your opinion is worth 0.000 000 001% but thanks for sharing it anyway.
How does John 3:16 offer salvation to anyone, please show us. I would be most interested to see.
No God does not mean, "do not love the ways of the world". If that's what He wanted to say, He would have said it so please stop superimposing your word over Gods Word.
If God did mean to say that, then why did He command His people to slaughter entire countries of people. He commanded them to slay every man woman child and unborn child by the sword. He even commanded His people to slay their animas by the sword as well.
He is still the very same God today, so we're not talking about a God who is no longer angry with sinners. He still hates them just as much as He ever did. God does not have a bi polar disorder, He never changes, so we don't need to pretend that Jesus is now meek and mild. He's actually coming back as a Man or war to slaughter the vast majority of mankind.
My Pastor said, "if you give the bible to 100 people and ask them to read through it, they would come back with a 100 different interpretations".
The problem with the bible is, God wrote it through His prophets, in a way that only those who receive the gift of discernment will interpret it correctly.
The rest will think they have it right, but what they really have is "there's a way that seems right to ma, but the end thereof is death", and every man does what is right in his own eyes.
The rest are forever learning but never coming to the saving knowledge of the truth. God has appointed Shepherds but you seem to have shunned Gods design and taken the law into your own hands.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Then ,we will have to agree to disagree .no good you or me, trying to force our beliefs onto each other.
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Behold
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God the Father, sent Jesus His only begotten Son into the world, who was Virgin born.... to fulfill the Law, and live a sinless life.. to then die on The Cross, so that by Jesus's Blood and Death... all who will believe this Gospel.... they may be forgiven all their sin, and born again, as eternally reconciled to God.
John 3:16
2 Corinthians 5:19
This is what Christians refer to as "The Gospel" and "Salvation", and there is no other way to be forgiven your sin, and be eternally reconciled to God. @Christian Soldier
John 14:6
Behold
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The Cross of Christ was raised , with Jesus on it, so that by His Sacrifice, all people might become reconciled to God.
Not all will believe, as each has to decided that, based on their Free Will... but ALL are offered Christ as their eternal sin bearer and their Savior.
God the Father, sent Jesus His only begotten Son into the world, who was Virgin born.... to fulfill the Law, and live a sinless life.. to then die on The Cross, so that by Jesus's Blood and Death... all who will believe this Gospel.... they may be forgiven all their sin, and born again, as eternally reconciled to God.
John 3:16
2 Corinthians 5:19
This is what Christians refer to as "The Gospel" and "Salvation", and there is no other way to be forgiven your sin, and be eternally reconciled to God. @Christian Soldier
John 14:6
I don't know how your denomination interprets the bible or which version of he gospel they adhere to. But my bible states that we are saved by grace, and that silences all those who hold to the "Arminian man centered, works based gospel".
Behold
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Im not concerned about how any "denomination" interprets the bible.
There are no denominations in Heaven, as the 45,000 denominations are "man made" on earth.
CHRISTianity, is God created.
My only "denomination" is Paul's Doctrine... "Pauline Theology".
My particular Local Assembly is. Messianic Jewish
Our "denomination" is ... Jesus on The Cross, is the only way to Heaven.... Believe it.
There is only one True Gospel.
Paul's.
Its the "Gospel of the Grace of God", and if you , or your denomination, teach any other then you are this...
Galatians 1:8
I teach people to get away from Arminianism and Calvinism and any other "ism". and never look back.
The NT teaches that God's Son is Salvation,.. John 14:6
You have just proven my point by your own admission, that every denomination does exactly what you just did. By claiming that every other denomination has it wrong and you have it right, proves that your denomination is a cult or sect.
Your denomination has blinded you you, so you can't even see the hypocrisy in claiming that the other 44,999 denominations don't interpret the bible correctly, but your denomination does. This is the height of arrogance and hypocrisy.
i notice you didn't identify what this mysterious third gospel version is, you denounce Arminiansm (man choses God gospel) and Calvinism (God choses man gospel) and you talk about a third option which doesn't exist. It's easy to reject both gospel versions, while failing to identify this non existent third option. You know thee is no third option and you know the bible doesn't allow for any third option, so hypocrisy is the only other option.
Behold
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I have not stated or implied, to you, that any particular denomination is right or wrong, theologically.
But we could have that discussion, if you want to post a THREAD, as this Thread is not that Discussion.
What i stated is that im not a part of any denomination...... and i stated that there are no Denominations in Heaven.
I'm glad to hear that you're not part of any denomination, but I still fear you hold to the man centered works based version of the gospel. Instead of the God centered grace based version of the gospel
Behold
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The Gospel, is.. "Paul's Gospel".. And this Gospel that is the "Gospel of the Grace of God" that is "the preaching of the Cross is the power of God, unto Salvation".... This Gospel, came directly from Jesus = to Paul.
This is why Paul said.....its "MY Gospel".. 3x, in the NT.
I'm not sure if you're serious or if your trying to be funny. But I can tell you there is nothing funny about the Gospel of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
The Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, is my gospel and it is the gospel of every Elect Saint of God. Just in case you seriously don't know what the "Gospel" means. I will tell you it simply means "good news", but don't go thinking that it's good news for the non Elect, as it is the worst news they will ever hear.
The Gospel is the sweet smelling aroma of life to us Elect Saints of God, but it is the stench of death to those who God leaves in their sin. So, yes I also have my own gospel, just as Paul and every other Elect Saint has. Our Gospel is the good news that Jesus died for our sins only and not for the world.
Paul never invented a separate gospel as you wish he did, he made the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, his own, just as I have made it my own.
Behold
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Im serious.
If that is true, then you are doing this as Paul teaches.
"WE, preach, CHRIST Crucified", which is "the preaching of the Cross, is the POWER OF GOD...unto Salvation, to/for everyone who BELIEVES" it.
Stop lying.
I never posted that Paul invented a gospel.
I told you that Jesus gave Paul THE Gospel, and Paul refers to this as "MY GOSPEL"< 3x in the NT .
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