God doesn't send anyone to hell you do it yourself. Remember the fall of humanity you were condemned it was already done to you.When it spoken about in the bible its telling you of the punishment that will be received not that God is sending people there he doesn't have to he just doesn't raise them up to eternal life and Heaven.Remember he is not sending you there he is offering a way out.
Is it biblical? - What does that even mean?
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Is God not sovereign?
Who invented hell?
Hell - Greek, Roman, Mythology | Britannica
Hell - Greek, Roman, Mythology: In Archaic Greece (c. 650–480 bce), Hades is an underworld god, a chthonic personification of death whose realm, divided from the land of the living by a terrible river, resembles the Mesopotamian land of the dead. The house of Hades is a labyrinth of dark, cold...
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The thought of eternal conscious torment is so unmistakably horrible, that Christians have
created apologetics to absolve God of all responsibility. - LOL
The changing perception of hell. - How do you define it?
Even very by-the-book Christians are modifying their views on hell, or the afterlife. As the previous trend for fire-and-brimstone preaching has all but gone the way of the dinosaur. Leaning toward a more personalized stance on "eternal separation from God". (whatever that means to you) -...
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No its not its the foundation of the faith Satan brought the fall of humanity to prevent union with God and the possibility of entering heaven not God.This is a war about humanity receiving eternal life you can't just toss that aside or Christianity is a false religion Your salvation is in your hand you just have to be open to it.I know many would love to remove that from the theology but its the whole reason why Jesus came.Christianity is not Christianity without the fall of humanity.
Its an eye sore a stumbling block for many.If it didn't happen there is no need for salvation or for Jesus to come.
Its an eye sore a stumbling block for many.If it didn't happen there is no need for salvation or for Jesus to come.
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ChristinaL
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There is only one doctrine- that Jesus Christ is Lord and God come in the flesh for sinful men and that He is the only way, the only truth and the only path to eternal life nd that no one comes to the Father but by Him.
The bible is also the plumbline through which all teaching must be measured- any doctrines that cannot be found explicitly or even implicitly in Scripture, such as the false doctrines around the Roman Catholic Mary being Mediatrix, Queen of heaven, etc etc must be REJECTED
Choose a number between 1-7 from this topic.
What makes a doctrine false?
What makes a doctrine false? Please quote what you would like to respond to. Thanks. 1. You've never heard it before. (knee-jerk defensive response) 2. You have heard of it before, but assume it's false. (haven't looked into it) 3. Doesn't align with your church's doctrine (your church...
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ChristinaL
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No need - that is my answer and I stand by itChoose a number between 1-7 from this topic.
What makes a doctrine false?
What makes a doctrine false? Please quote what you would like to respond to. Thanks. 1. You've never heard it before. (knee-jerk defensive response) 2. You have heard of it before, but assume it's false. (haven't looked into it) 3. Doesn't align with your church's doctrine (your church...
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This is a discussion forum. Didn't you get the memo?
Build bridges, not walls.
What makes a doctrine false?
Please quote what you would like to respond to. Thanks.
1. You've never heard it before. (knee-jerk defensive response)
2. You have heard of it before, but assume it's false. (haven't looked into it)
3. Doesn't align with your church's doctrine (your church would say it is false)
4. Doesn't align with your personal doctrine (your views differ)
5. YOUR "Bible" says it is false. (other biblical opinions don't matter)
6. It makes you uncomfortable. (therefore it must be wrong)
7. Everyone knows it's false. (except those who believe it)
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ChristinaL
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Ok you want to go by the numbers?
#1 I have likely heard it all
#2 I dont assume its false without researching thoroughly
#3 I pay attention to what the bible says not my church
#4 My personal doctrine is irrelevant
#5 If my bible openly says its false then its false- if it doesnt mention it at all then you must also assume its false
#6 Who cares how it makes you feel
#7 if it doesnt concur with scripture who cares what "everyone knows"
Okay, that takes care of knowledge.
What about the equally-important (according to you) transformation?
Do you have 7 items for that?
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ChristinaL
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ChristinaL
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Being born again is all at once but then you grow and mature in the faith as you mature in knowledge and wisdom
So, transformation does NOT come entirely from being born again.
You should be able to come up with your 7 now, right? (equal importance)
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ChristinaL
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I just said it did! But though being saved and renewed does happen all at once there is still a maturing process
A transforming process that follows us into the afterlife. (assuming)
I do believe in the afterlife, but I take it on faith. There is no unquestionable evidence.
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Bruce-Leiter
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Whose doctrine are you referring to that comes from the Book of Enoch, and what is it? Then, we can talk.
Wick Stick
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That sounds like maybe a whole topic if you want to go into specifics.
But it gives doctrine in areas where the Bible is either quiet or confusing... thanatology, eschatology, virtually everything people believe about giants... there are expansions on the stories in Genesis.
It isn't necessarily a bad thing. The New Testament itself seems to either draw on, or at least agree with, points from Enoch. I like Enoch. I don't think that it should be considered infallible, but it's a fine book.
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Ripped and Torn - What pages have you torn out of your Bible?
You would never do that, right? Actually tear pages out of your Bible. ??? But how many of us do it in our minds by claiming someone else's view is "UNBIBLICAL"! Might as well have torn that one out of your Bible. [
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