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[6] For the most High hateth sinners, and will repay vengeance unto the ungodly, and keepeth them against the mighty day of their punishment. [7] Give unto the good, and help not the sinner. [8] A friend cannot be known in prosperity: and an enemy cannot be hidden in adversity.
Quoting a scripture out of context doesn’t mean God hates human beings…

Sorry that routes not gonna work with me.
 

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God is angry with sinners everyday, He sends them rain to fatten them up for the slaughter. When I love my enemy and do good to him, it actually means he will suffer more torment in hell because it makes him more accountable for continuing in his sin and rebellion.

Every unbeliever is guilty of murdering Gods Son, God doesn't only hate those who crucified Him. Fallen man would crucify Christ all over again if they could. There is nothing good in any unbeliever, their hearts are wicked above all things, so what's to love about an unbeliever.


My sins killed Jesus, sure. I can say that… but I’m not a person who was born under the law.

I still stand by what I said regardless.




You people are sick telling people God hates you….


Really disgusting behavior and a horrible mindset to have….


Good luck … on your thread I’ll have no part in it any longer. Miss quoting the Bible as a whole is what yall are doing!!!

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3‬:‭16‬-‭21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The God I serve has changed… though he has never changed in his love for all of his creation… but if you misquote the Bible you got some issues!!!


God hates attitudes (google; 7 things the LORD hates.) He continues to call and desire for all people to come to the truth, and that doesn’t mean he hate other human beings just cause they are faithless today….

In the Bible resurrection of condemnation exist…

In the Bible the kingdom of God has a place for those faithless people; outside the kingdom…

Does God hate those outside the kingdom? Or does he call even out to them?

Revelation 21-22.

1 John 3:15 Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him.


Is God a murderer for killing Israel off in 70 Ad? Nope. Curses fell because of their disobedience, and it’s justifiable in the covenant agreement which is no longer there replaced by the new covenant.


JustMy2Cents!
 
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Quoting a scripture out of context doesn’t mean God hates human beings…
Gods word is not out of context I’m afraid...your opinion is...I too used to believe what you believe, then God opened my eyes and ears to see and hear his word....from our human understanding it is awful...from the word himself is truth as we read below.
Sorry that routes not gonna work with me.
"GOD HATES ALL WORKERS OF INIQUITY”
[Psalms 5:5
]​

THE BIBLE SAYS GOD HATES SINNERS, NOT JUST THE SIN:

Leviticus 20:23: “And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nations which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I ABHORRED THEM.”
Leviticus 26:14-30: “If ye will not hearken unto Me, and will not do all these commandments; And if ye shall despise My statutes, or if your soul abhor My judgments, so that ye will not do all My commandments, but that ye break My covenant, I also will do this to you... [send plagues, famine, drought, destructive armies, wild beasts who shall devour your children, pestilence, captivity in a cruel land...] And if ye will not for all this hearken unto Me, but walk contrary to Me; Then I WILL WALK CONTRARY TO YOU IN FURY... I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcasses upon the carcasses of your idols, and MY SOUL SHALL ABHOR YOU.”
Deuteronomy 18:12 “For all that do these things are an ABOMINATION TO THE LORD, and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee.”
Deuteronomy 25:16: “...ALL THAT DO UNRIGHTEOUSLY ARE AN ABOMINATION UNTO THE LORD.”
Deuteronomy 28:62-63: “Because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the Lord thy God... it shall come to pass, that as the Lord rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the Lord will the Lord will REJOICE OVER YOU TO DESTROY YOU, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it.” (In Deuteronomy 27, 28, and 29, 124 CURSES are promised upon the Jews who refused to obey God’s commandments.)
Deuteronomy 32:16-20: “They provoked Him to jealousy with strange gods, with abominations they provoked Him to ANGER... And when the Lord saw it [people sacrificing to devils - v.17], HE ABHORRED THEM...”
Psalm 2:4-9: “The Lord that sits in the heavens shall LAUGH [at rebellious men]: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall He speak unto them in His WRATH, and VEX THEM IN HIS SORE DISPLEASURE... [and Christ shall] break them with a rod of iron: Thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.”
Psalm 5:5-6: “The foolish shall not stand in Thy sight: THOU HATEST ALL WORKERS OF INIQUITY. Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing (lies): THE LORD WILL ABHOR THE BLOODY AND DECEITFUL MAN.”
Psalm 7:11-13: “...God is ANGRY with the wicked every day. If he turn not, He will whet His sword; He hath bent His bow, and made it ready. He hath also prepared for him the instruments of death; He ordaineth His arrows against the persecutors.”
Psalm 10:3: “For the wicked... blesseth the covetous, WHOM THE LORD ABHORRETH.”
Psalm 11:5-7: “The Lord trieth the righteous: but THE WICKED AND HIM THAT LOVETH VIOLENCE HIS SOUL HATETH. Upon the wicked He shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup. For the righteous Lord loveth righteousness...”
Psalm 50:22: “Now consider this, ye that forget God, LEST I TEAR YOU IN PIECES, AND THERE BE NONE TO DELIVER.”
Psalm 78:59: “When God heard this He was wroth, and GREATLY ABHORRED ISRAEL.”
Psalm 106:40: “Therefore was the wrath of the Lord kindled against His people, insomuch that HE ABHORRED HIS OWN INHERITANCE.”
Proverbs 3:32-33: “For the froward is an ABOMINATION TO THE LORD... The CURSE OF THE LORD is in the house of the wicked: but He blesseth the habitation of the just.”
Proverbs 6:16-19: “These six things doth THE LORD HATE: yea, seven are AN ABOMINATION TO HIM... A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among the brethren.”
Proverbs 16:5: “Every one that is proud in heart is an ABOMINATION TO THE LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.”
Proverbs 17:5: “He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are ABOMINATION TO THE LORD.”
Proverbs 22:14: “The soul of strange women is a deep pit: HE THAT IS ABHORRED OF THE LORD shall fall therein.”
Jeremiah 17:5: “Thus saith the Lord, CURSED BE THE MAN that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord.”
Hosea 9:15: “All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I HATED THEM: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of Mine house, I WILL LOVE THEM NO MORE...”
Malachi 1:3-4: “And I HATED ESAU, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness...thus saith the Lord of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and the people AGAINST WHOM THE LORD HATH INDIGNATION FOREVER.”
Romans 9:13: “As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but ESAU HAVE I HATED.”
I Corinthians 16:22: “If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be ANATHEMA MARANATHA [which means ACCURSED, THE LORD COMETH].”
James 4:4: “Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that friendship of the world is ENMITY (or HATRED) WITH GOD? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is an ENEMY OF GOD.”
I Peter 3:12: “For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and His ears are open to their prayers: but THE FACE OF THE LORD IS AGAINST THEM THAT DO EVIL.”
Revelation 14:10-11: “[Sinners] shall drink of the wine of the WRATH OF GOD, which is poured without mixture into the cup of HIS INDIGNATION; and he shall be TORMENTED WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE IN THE PRESENCE OF THE HOLY ANGELS, AND IN THE PRESENCE OF THE LAMB; And the smoke of their TORMENT ascendeth up for ever and ever; and they have NO REST DAY NOR NIGHT
 

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Man you so out of whack!

That’s not going by the spirit at all…

If you wanna live by knowledge rather than the spirit have at it @Ritajanice.

Did you know your knowledge while it’s important doesn’t mean anything in the face of God?

“But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11‬:‭6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5‬:‭25‬-‭26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Peace to you. I won’t respond back, any more.
 
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My sins killed Jesus, sure. I can say that… but I’m not a person who was born under the law.

I still stand by what I said regardless.




You people are sick telling people God hates you….


Really disgusting behavior and a horrible mindset to have….


Good luck … on your thread I’ll have no part in it any longer. Miss quoting the Bible as a whole is what yall are doing!!!

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3‬:‭16‬-‭21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The God I serve has changed… though he has never changed in his love for all of his creation… but if you misquote the Bible you got some issues!!!


God hates attitudes (google; 7 things the LORD hates.) He continues to call and desire for all people to come to the truth, and that doesn’t mean he hate other human beings just cause they are faithless today….

In the Bible resurrection of condemnation exist…

In the Bible the kingdom of God has a place for those faithless people; outside the kingdom…

Does God hate those outside the kingdom? Or does he call even out to them?

Revelation 21-22.

1 John 3:15 Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him.


Is God a murderer for killing Israel off in 70 Ad? Nope. Curses fell because of their disobedience, and it’s justifiable in the covenant agreement which is no longer there replaced by the new covenant.


JustMy2Cents!
That may be your two cents worth, but the bible doesn't support any of your private opinions. The bible teaches the exact opposite, so whoever taught you this stuff was not teaching you the awful truth of the gospel.

If God loved sinners then He would be evil, and we know He is not evil so that's you first big mistake.

I know the truth has the stench of death, that's why everyone hates it, apart from Gods elect, because it is the sweet smelling aroma of life to us. So I'm not surprised to see you hate the truth of the gospel.

I not sure which god you serve, but it's not the same God I serve is the One who revealed Himself through the Holy Bible. You say your god has changed, but the One True God can not change anything about Himself. He has always remained exactly the same and He always will remain exactly the same.

Your god hates attitudes, but the God of the bible hates the actual person. So we can they are not the same God, the only difference is, the God I serve is described inn the bible, while the god you serve is only found in your imagination.

The bible confirms that there is no place for the unbeliever in Gods kingdom, but in you imagination there is. The only place for the unbeliever is hell. God hates those outside of His Kingdom so much that He torments them in the lake of fire for all eternity, you can hate someone more than to punish them in that way.

God didn't kill Israel off in AD70, Israel exists to this day, so someone has been telling you some big lies.



 

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Check any dictionary. I already asked you to show the verse that proves ECT is God's plan for the damned. Crickets.
Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: 44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

I'm surprised that anyone who professes to be a Christian, doesn't know about the doctrine of eternal punishment in hell. I would suggest you join a beginners bible class, so you can at least learn the basic facts.
 

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What exactly is it that you're asking?

Does God love the BILLIONS who will burn in Hell FOREVER?

False implied premise. You cannot cite a verse that supports the claim of ECT. Death is the wages of sin not ECT.
I'm asking you to cite a verse that states human beings will "burn in Hell FOREVER".

IMO, there are a number of false doctrines in Christendom. Beyond the man-is-god thesis, coupled with 3-is-1-ism, ECT is one of the biggest.
 

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You're still failing to grasp the fact that there are many different types and levels of hate
Wrong, the parallelism between the identical themes of Luke 14:26 KJV (we must hate father or mother to be His disciple) and Matthew 10:37 KJV (we must not love father or mother more than Jesus to be His disciple) absolutely proves "hate" can mean "love less" and not necessarily "absence of love".

Show me a person trapped by false ideas like Calvinism and I'll show you a man bound by unbreakable cords of unwarranted hermeneutical rigidity fashioned by his own theologically unskilled hands.
Hate can never be watered down to mean love less, those who hate the truth invented that idea to make this harsh doctrine more acceptable to seeker friendly Churches.
I just showed you from the above Biblical example how "hate" can absolutely mean "love less" - and those who refuse to accept the truth are trapped in the same satanic "Religion of Exclusivity" as are occultists who love to pridefully bask in the belief they are "specially chosen" by Lucifer as worthy to be "illuminated" with the truth while the rest of us are left out in the cold, worthy only of rejection, exploitation, condemnation.
 
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God is angry with sinners everyday, He sends them rain to fatten them up for the slaughter. When I love my enemy and do good to him, it actually means he will suffer more torment in hell because it makes him more accountable for continuing in his sin and rebellion.
Perfectly encapsulates your twisted mindset which paints God as the most unjust being to ever exist:

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Every unbeliever is guilty of murdering Gods Son, God doesn't only hate those who crucified Him. Fallen man would crucify Christ all over again if they could. There is nothing good in any unbeliever, their hearts are wicked above all things, so what's to love about an unbeliever.
God doesn't "hate" aka "have no love for" anyone.

The story of David and Absalom isn't there merely for interest or amusement - it's written "for our learning" and a blind man can see it's a glimpse into what happened between God and Lucifer in heaven...and after hearing about the fate of Absalom, poor David was devastated and heartbroken and wept out loud in fierce anguish, wishing to God that he could have died in place of the one who tried to kill him and take the throne.

But, God "hates" us, right?
 
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Check any dictionary. I already asked you to show the verse that proves ECT is God's plan for the damned. Crickets.
"...and ye know no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him." - 1 John 3:15 KJV

How can they insist there's "eternal conscious torment" if there is no eternal conscious sinner?
 
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