Friendly Bible Study - participants must agree to Nicene Creed.

[face2face]

@face2face This is a private Bible study set up by the Mods that is friendly and avoids the usual conflicts that dominate the Forum.

We have two rules - no argument on the Trinity and members of this thread must agree on the Nicene Creed.

From your confession, you don't qualify to be among us.

Carl, as I understand it the Bible Study is on Acts 6 and this qualifies me to take part. This topic is held within the Bible Study section of this forum and while the forum has its rules, to my knowledge, participents of this forum do not hold license to create their own rules.

F2F

 

[quietthinker]

I just weighed in when I saw your post. I don't want to disrupt the Bible Study.
But a quick definition may be in order.

Christian Universalism, sometimes known as UR which can stand for Universal Reconciliation, or Universal Restoration,
or Ultimate Redemption, is the belief that all of humankind will be reconciled/restored/redeemed in the end.
This is not a get-out-of-hell-free card. Everyone will will be evaluated/corrected/restored/redeemed.
There will a whole age of restoration. Known as Apokatastasis in the early church.

Apokatastasis in the Bible​

I thought Apokatastasis was only a theological term from the early church. Now I come to find out that it is in the Bible as a word in the NT Greek text. Thanks to my good friend and dear brother @Chadrho for pointing it out. Here it is. Acts 3:21 NIV Heaven must receive him until the time...

Apokatastasis in the early church​

When many hear about Apokatastasis (the restoration of all things), Universalism, Christian Universalism, Universal Restoration, Universal Reconciliation, Ultimate Redemption, Ultimate Reconciliation, UR... There is an assumption that this is a new idea. Something modern liberal theologians...

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Thanks Steven, I the light of other responses, let's continue our little chat elsewhere so as not to disrupt the participants of what they are studying here. Whadya say?

 

[Carl Emerson]

Thanks Steven, I the light of other responses, let's continue our little chat elsewhere so as not to disrupt the participants of what they are studying here. Whadya say?

Thanks guys...

 

[Carl Emerson]

A word of explanation - Given that face2face does not hold to the Nicene Creed he will no longer be posting here.

 

[Johann]

Like that J. don't mind if I grab that one thanks

You're more than welcome brother.
J.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Just to say if anyone else does not agree with the Nicene Creed it would be appreciated if you could bow out gracefully.

 

[Johann]

Just to say if anyone else does not agree with the Nicene Creed it would be appreciated if you could bow out gracefully.

I'm out of here.
J.

 

[St. SteVen]

@face2face This is a private Bible study set up by the Mods that is friendly and avoids the usual conflicts that dominate the Forum.

This "private" study was in the What's New list.



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[Carl Emerson]

This "private" study was in the What's New list.

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Yep - Must find a way to alert folks of the conditions around participation...

Any suggestions appreciated.

 

[St. SteVen]

Yep - Must find a way to alert folks of the conditions around participation...

Any suggestions appreciated.

That's a question for @Angelina

I was going to suggest a PM topic. But that limits you to five members.

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[Carl Emerson]

That's a question for @Angelina

I was going to suggest a PM topic. But that limits you to five members.

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We presently have more than 20 participants.

 

[GodsGrace]

Yep - Must find a way to alert folks of the conditions around participation...

Any suggestions appreciated.

There are two solutions:
1. This might possibly have been better off being placed in a PM with members being invited in.
2. It's possible to have a pop-up stating that this thread is for ONLY those that believe in one of the creeds and is NOT for general discussion/debate.

If you place a rule only at the beginning, it probably won't function well because most don't read the conditions anyway.

PS There's also a way to set up a thread so that ONLY the included members could post.
I can't remember if others can then be added to the thread...

 

[GodsGrace]

We presently have more than 20 participants.

There should be no limit to the participants in a PM.
This is a choice of administration.
Not sure why this is done....

 

[GodsGrace]

We presently have more than 20 participants.

Of course the other solution is for persons to be honest.
When I joined you asked if I believed in a creed.
I answered yes.
It's not proper to then post, later on in the thread, that I really don't.
or
Just handle each problem as it comes up....

 

[GodsGrace]

I was looking up commentaries regarding Acts 6 to see if anything new - in ideas - might be mentioned.
Didn't really find anything, but a thought did come to mind:

Acts 6 clearly states that there was an institution known as the CHURCH and that this church cared for its members.
I remember debates on whether or not Jesus meant to establish a new church.
I don't see how this could be denied, however Acts 6 once again establishes the fact that a PHYSICAL church is necessary for the faith to grow...back then and also now.

 

[Carl Emerson]

I was looking up commentaries regarding Acts 6 to see if anything new - in ideas - might be mentioned.
Didn't really find anything, but a thought did come to mind:

Acts 6 clearly states that there was an institution known as the CHURCH and that this church cared for its members.
I remember debates on whether or not Jesus meant to establish a new church.
I don't see how this could be denied, however Acts 6 once again establishes the fact that a PHYSICAL church is necessary for the faith to grow...back then and also now.

Do you mean a purpose built physical church?

It seems some churches were in homes.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Of course the other solution is for persons to be honest.
When I joined you asked if I believed in a creed.
I answered yes.
It's not proper to then post, later on in the thread, that I really don't.
or
Just handle each problem as it comes up....

I think I may be able to edit the title and include the warning...

 

[Johann]

I was looking up commentaries regarding Acts 6 to see if anything new - in ideas - might be mentioned.
Didn't really find anything, but a thought did come to mind:

Acts 6 clearly states that there was an institution known as the CHURCH and that this church cared for its members.
I remember debates on whether or not Jesus meant to establish a new church.
I don't see how this could be denied, however Acts 6 once again establishes the fact that a PHYSICAL church is necessary for the faith to grow...back then and also now.

Try Unger's.

Customs and Cultures also very good re Acts 6.
J.

 

[Carl Emerson]

I was looking up commentaries regarding Acts 6 to see if anything new - in ideas - might be mentioned.
Didn't really find anything, but a thought did come to mind:

Acts 6 clearly states that there was an institution known as the CHURCH and that this church cared for its members.
I remember debates on whether or not Jesus meant to establish a new church.
I don't see how this could be denied, however Acts 6 once again establishes the fact that a PHYSICAL church is necessary for the faith to grow...back then and also now.

I think it more likely that they gathered in a community space already established for feasts/weddings etc.

This early church was a gathering rather than an institution.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Try Unger's.

Customs and Cultures also very good re Acts 6.
J.

Johann - I am not clear if you are with us or not - do you believe in the Nicene Creed ?