Is the story of Adam & Eve a parable?

[RedFan]

What would that have to do with evolution?

It establishes DNA links to ancestral genetics.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Deliberate hiding of the truth is not accomplished by Biblical contradictions -- which make one or the other an UNtruth. If you are one of "God's chosen people" who is "given the gift of discernment," kindly "discern" for me how a Biblical contradiction does anything less than make one or the other an UNtruth.

I reject the notion that there are Biblical contradictions to begin with. So you can't ask me to discern something that doesn't exist, as it only exists in your own mind.

 

[RedFan]

I reject the notion that there are Biblical contradictions to begin with. So you can't ask me to discern something that doesn't exist, as it only exists in your own mind.

Don't be silly. Is it in my mind alone that the Synoptics call the Last Supper a Passover meal, and that John says it occurred the day before? Or is it in the Bible? Tell me, please.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Don't be silly. Is it in my mind alone that the Synoptics call the Last Supper a Passover meal, and that John says it occurred the day before? Or is it in the Bible? Tell me, please.

All you have managed to achieve in your attempt to discredit the bible, is point out some insignificant small details, such as dates and numbers of things. None of these matter in anyway, none of them effect the gospel message or any other bible doctrine.

You're just knit picking to try and prove some foolish point and impress us with your wisdom. Well, I'm sorry but it has had the opposite effect.

 

[RedFan]

All you have managed to achieve in your attempt to discredit the bible, is point out some insignificant small details, such as dates and numbers of things. None of these matter in anyway, none of them effect the gospel message or any other bible doctrine.

You're just knit picking to try and prove some foolish point and impress us with your wisdom. Well, I'm sorry but it has had the opposite effect.

Seriously? Why would I try to impress someone anonymously? It makes no sense. I am on this site trying to have edifying discussions about Scripture.

The "foolish point" you reference is actually one we might agree on, since I share your view that "none of these [inconsistencies} matter" -- at least to the theological message of the Bible. I expect theological truth from the Bible, not accuracy as to immaterial factual details with which the gospel authors chose to adorn that theological message. You and I may ultimately agree that those factual errors don't matter. Where we will never agree is if you claim that those factual errors don't exist.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Seriously? Why would I try to impress someone anonymously? It makes no sense. I am on this site trying to have edifying discussions about Scripture.

The "foolish point" you reference is actually one we might agree on, since I share your view that "none of these [inconsistencies} matter" -- at least to the theological message of the Bible. I expect theological truth from the Bible, not accuracy as to immaterial factual details with which the gospel authors chose to adorn that theological message. You and I may ultimately agree that those factual errors don't matter. Where we will never agree is if you claim that those factual errors don't exist.

I wouldn't expect the four gospel accounts to be identical word for word, as you know they were written long after the events took place.

Sorry I pulled the trigger, before I asked you any questions. So it's a case of mistaken identity here

 

[TheHC]

It establishes DNA links to ancestral genetics.

There are no viable DNA links in fossils!

Come on.

 

[RedFan]

There are no viable DNA links in fossils!

Come on.

Svante Pääbo won the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physiology/Medicine for proving the opposite.

Some light reading for you: Fossil DNA: on the trail of human evolution - Polytechnique Insights

 

[face2face]

Svante Pääbo won the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physiology/Medicine for proving the opposite.

Some light reading for you: Fossil DNA: on the trail of human evolution - Polytechnique Insights

Thanks for this Red.
I've often seen the four rivers in Genesis 2 as being the flowing of righteousness of God throughout the then known world (ANE). It's impossible to refute there being humans in the earth at the time of A&E. We are better to understand this age and God's plan and purpose with us. There is the idea of Cain building cities and the insest issue.

F2F

 

[Hobie]

It establishes DNA links to ancestral genetics.

They get the timeline wrong but DNA shows we are all from one man and one woman... Genetic ‘Adam and Eve’: All Humans are Descendants of One Man and Woman Who Lived Over 100,000 Years Ago

 

[KUWN]

The Toledoth's of Genesis are not allegory, but historical narrative. Adam and Eve are two real persons/beings, created by God, approximately 6,249 (as of AD 2024) years ago - Age Of The Earth : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

The Bible, from Genesis to Revelation, as well as each writer, understands Genesis in the historical (not allegorical) narrative. Paul even explains that the natural is first, then follows the spiritual understanding (1 Cor. 15:46). This is even explained as such, not only by most Christians throughout history - Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free & Borrowable Books, Movies, Music & Wayback Machine but even also by certain catholic writers, such as Thomas Aquinas, in Summa Theologica, which has the Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur of Rome.

It is not possible "that God placed humans throughout the world and that the story of the garden is a parable", for it would violently wrest (Psa. 56;5; 2 Pet. 3:16) not only the context itself, but also the contexts of all the other writers/speakers on the subject, in scripture. There would be no need for a singular new man (Adam - Jesus; 1 Cor. 15:47), if there were not the original singular first man Adam. They are linked in type and antitype, among other things.

Colouration is simply genetic variation built into the original Adam, from the beginning that is affected by various conditions, such as diet, locale, population, other pressures which affect melatonin levels, and other factors. So, yes, we are to understand that "white, black, Indian & Asians" are all descendants of one singular pair of persons/beings (Adam & Eve). Evolutionism is the myth.

Gen_3:20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.​

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Act_17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;​

We are all related to the singular - Adam, as well as to Noah (bottleneck of the global flood).

Creation documentation - Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free & Borrowable Books, Movies, Music & Wayback Machine

Adam & Eve, in their existence and marriage represent the JEHOVAH Elohiym, or the eternal heavenly Trio, of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost/Spirit. Adam, as Head of mankind, represents the Father. Eve, from the side of Adam, represents the Son who is always submitted to the will of His Father by love, and is of the nature of the Father, and their love is bound together by God, who is represented by the Holy Ghost/Spirit between them. If, the beginning is a myth, or allegory, this is all destroyed, and the perfect image and likness of JEHOVAH Elohiym is distorted into myth/allegory as well.

Allegorizing Genesis, vaporizes, not only the rest of history into the same, for where will one draw the line?, it also vaporizes the need of the Gospel, Salvation, Redemption, for what need would there be of those things, based upon the myth/allegory of that which is not in fact actual:

Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.​

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Gen 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.​

I like this reply. And the question demonstrates one of the main reasons people arrive at different interpretations of the Bible. Prior to interpreting a text, we commit to a Method of Interpretation. In this case, it is either an allegory or a "literal" method. If one accepts that the Bible has a lot of allegorical teachings then they might simply accept the consequence of their method and in this case conclude that the story of Adam and Eve is an allegory. If you take the text literally, then it is a historical situation. Notice that the issue is not what does the text SAY, but what does the text mean.

 

[Christian Soldier]

They get the timeline wrong but DNA shows we are all from one man and one woman... Genetic ‘Adam and Eve’: All Humans are Descendants of One Man and Woman Who Lived Over 100,000 Years Ago