Israel received her kingdom back in 1948.......but it isn't necessarily all for good because sadly they still reject their true Messiah (except for a remnant). They are still looking for an earthly kingdom ruled by an earthly messiah king which is what caused them to reject Jesus when He came the first time. We must not follow them. Jesus tried to correct their wrong thinking...telling them the truth that His kingdom comes not with careful observation that we can say lo here it is or lo there....but it is within/among us.
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BarneyFife
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Revelation 22:20 — He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
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Hi brother-my three pound brain is "fried"-miss you man and yes: Come, Lord Jesus!
1. Revelation 1:7
"Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen."
2. Revelation 3:11
"Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown."
3. Revelation 22:12
"And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be."
4. Matthew 24:30-31
"And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."
5. Acts 1:11
"Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."
6. 1 Corinthians 16:22
"If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha."
7. Philippians 3:20
"For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:"
It's 1:52 AM here in the dark in South Africa, and I’m feeling very alone. What hits me hardest is the loneliness.
Know what I mean?
Shalom
Johann.
BarneyFife
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I don't know about you, Brother, but sometimes when my "prayer life" gets blunt-edged, I've had to dispense with some of the dogmatic maxims insisted upon by some. Sometimes I have to get real and raw in order to keep my connection with God from becoming feeble.
Jesus is my Brother as much as He is everything else to me. Every relationship we have in this temporal sphere will fail us at times. I don't mind confessing I need God in every way He's been pleased to manifest Himself, to supply the lack of communion elsewhere.
And I suppose this is what is meant when it has been said that, as the love of so many waxes cold, we shall have to draw warmth from that very coldness.
I often sense in my own brethren little more than the desire only to war against that which they find carnally compelling to oppose, understanding, as I do, the difficulty of striking a proper balance between properly contending for the faith and preaching Christ of contention for contention's sake
So few are happy to speak of that which, or of He whom they love, but are ever in search of something to criticize or, worse yet, demonize.
I go to church and when the hour comes to study, the topic of lesson material quickly gives way to talk of "us-and-them."
And I tire of it.
And, in the meantime, at the risk of being accused of favoring the hymnbook over Scripture:
I'll be having a little talk with Jesus while others are wasting time appealing to the impropriety of such a thing.
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BarneyFife
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I can imagine, to some degree. When one has worked in personal ministry as you have, it's hard to be isolated. Nothing lives unto itself for very long.
This was brought to my mind recently when I was recalling an interview of a woman who had born no less than 17 children. When she was asked how she could effectively love and attend so many offspring, she launched into what quickly became a sermon about how love begets love.
She said there were countless times when she suddenly realized she had forgotten some duty promised or appointment missed only to find that her obligations had been abundantly fulfilled by another family member or even miraculous divine providence.
She also testified that the more time she dared spend on her knees in prayer, the more efficient and even restful God made her efforts. And the more she exercised faith in counsel from Scripture in caring for her family, the more God one-upped her with blessings.
It seems that the old adage "You can't out-give God" never fails.
My point, though, is that as you have surely witnessed this principle in your own life experience, I'm sure it makes isolation all the more galling.
Hang on, Brother, King Jesus is coming to your rescue one way or another!
:)
In full agreement with you here my brother-correct, let's have a little talk with Jesus.
Johann.
Right here is where the tears began to flow, just as it is written, 'The LORD has heard my cry for mercy; the LORD accepts my prayer' (Psalm 6:9).
amigo de christo
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Yes there can be teachers . But all must always be tested .
Plus i do not teach or remind about any complicated issue . I have kept things quite simple .
Its the doctrines of men and this other version of love that has made what was once very simple
now very complicated .
For example did you know that a lot even within christendom are influenced already
by another version of love , one that came of the world.
Now its true some are more deeply affected than others .
But once one begins to head down this little leaven influence of this wordly version of love
they get worse , only worse , unless they repent of it .
It comes in quite small at first . But what it leads too and will lead one too
is the abandonment of the one true gospel and its preaching .
When it first enters into an area , Its goal is to get us unequally yoked .
To not judge sin persay , to not be grave , sincere or serious
but rather it tries to tone down doctrine as it speaks more on this other version of love .
At first , in large it approached through the idea that its time for the faiths to find common ground .
But its goal is to include all religoins too . its merging us and it does know how to use partial
truths in order to decieve .
The more we stay in the bible daily , the more refreshed and reminded we are about HOW the apostels did things
Just as How JESUS did . Their approach , mission , and the way they went about doing things
Was far more sincere . Today the mission is more about reconciling man to man , overlooking
sins even for the sake of what it calls love . But if we dont correct sin and error within the church
it will leaven up and things always do get worse .
This has been the effect of the purpose drivin life , seeker friendly , the ecumincal movment .
And it has gotten worse . Used to be churches actually would correct
the doctrines of other faiths , they dont no more . Rather its , hey we will never agree on doctrine
so lets just get along . Doctrine matters less and less over time and this other love becomes the golden bull .
And over time it just keeps getting worse .
amigo de christo
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Were it not for the prayers and bible reads i enjoy with others
this world would have vexed my soul out of existance .
It can be very very hard and troubling on a soul to see all the evil being practiced
by many and even many within christendom .
To be honest as disheartning as it is to evil make such a fast increase in this world
what makes my soul wail the most is seeingthis increase inside christendom .
Nothing , cept being with THE LORD , would have made my soul happier
if the churches would just all have started over fresh in the scriptures , learned that
And simply focused on Christ .
Key things to remember .
What was the main focus on Christ and the apostels .
The spreading of the gospel . now all signs , wonders and good deeds , THEY are only part of that
to help spread the gospel and to build up the church .
But lets compare and contrast .
Look at the main messages in most churches . Look at what they focus on .
IS it the dire necessity to actually preach JESUS to the lost , or is it about keeping silent with words
but about simply doing good works and finding common ground with the lost .
ITS the latter .
As far as love is concerned .
Look at what paul wrote . Concerning love you have no need that i teach you etc , You have the LOVE of GOD .
Yet today , today all you hear is a non stop reminder about what they think is love in the churches .
YOu have no real doctrinal teachings and reminders of JESUS and the apostles .
NOW its okay to remind about love . But heck its all this generation seems to do .
SO with a one sided message , no real doctrine , no gravity , no sincerity , what do you think
happens . Doctrine wanes , becomes far less important and what seemed as love opens the door wide to deceptoin .
Doctrine does matter . Every word of JESUS matters . every Word of GOD matters .
But i dont hear that in most places anymore . All i hear is the word love and bad doctrine by which to get
the church unequally yoked through this .
Common ground will destroy the church . it will cause unequally yoking and that is its down fall .
Being nice and kind to all , IS a far cry FROM trying to FIND common GROUND with lost souls .
Because there is no common ground with light and darkness , we have nothing in common .
The church it should sit under CHRIST , our common mindset is BELIEVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
and observe all things HE commanded .
NOW no other religoin has that in common with us . WE should not be trying to find common ground
with them , but rather focus on preaching JESUS to them .
amigo de christo
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The simple thing to do is bring this all back to the basic teachings of Christ , the apostels , the scriptures .
When we do , lets compare and contrast
their approach , verses todays approach .
Watch how very different it will be . Now it will have partial truths but watch the approach .
for example , when paul went everywhere throughout Israel and the world per say ,
WHEN he entered into every jewish synangogue
was he preaching hey we all serve GOD , hey lets find common ground
OR was hims preaching JESUS the CHRIST to them . and when they rejejcted
he would even shake the dust off his feet .
Look at the appraoch he had towards sin in the church .
Look at todays approach towards sin in the church .
BIG difference there too .
There is a whole lot more we can discuss my friend . Its better we do so .
Ronald David Bruno
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Wow. So Satan snatched not only 1.36 living billion souls, who claim to put their faith in Jesus, out of the Father's hand but also billions more who have pasted away ( apparently to Hades) since Peter whom they claim to be the 1st Pope? Or are you implying something else, like they were never in the Father's hand?
And how did the Lord "show you" this?
Amen. God is still hiding truths from the wise and learned and revealing them to little children. His Spirit is still the one who is leading us into all truth. We must become as little children.......I believe that is a matter of humility and where our dependence lies, on ourselves and other men or on God. Doesn't mean we can't use the tools of human knowledge as long as our reliance is on God, His Spirit and not our own carnal mind and human knowledge. Because truth is spiritually discerned.....the natural man can't perceive the things of God. So much on-line wrangling is wrangling about carnal minded questions. There are things that our heart knows but the mind can be having difficulty defining. I think the question of whether we must pray to the Father or Jesus is one such.....when I think really our hearts know we are praying to God either way. Our unity in Christ in on the heart/spirit level, not the level of the carnal mind which is often the source of much unnecessary division.
It doesn't matter "how", but if you insist, it came like a download from heaven which temporarily short-circuited my brain. I was raised a Catholic and realized the shortcomings of that church early on. But I didn't really know for a long time quite how to regard it....it's like a hybrid of pagan and Christianity. Should I consider it to be Christian or not? Well the Lord made it very unequivocally clear to me fairly recently, maybe within the last year, that Catholicism is not of God but of another spirit. Mixture is not of God period end of story. Jesus said no man can serve two masters and the apostle wrote we cannot eat the table of demons and of Christ at the same time. This is why the prophet Elijah was trying to get Israel to no longer "halt between two opinions"....they were trying to serve God and Baal at the same time....which meant they weren't really serving God AT ALL, but serving Baal.
Catholics are souls that have been taken captive to something that is not of God, sadly....much like the Israelites who were taken captive to Babylon. The devil is always seeking who he may devour and he is a very subtle and sly deceiver.
2Co 11:3
But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
Jesus didn't come to establish a new religion in His name, He came to show us a Way....THE Way. And He is that Way....both receiving and following Him. What did He do while on earth? Build cathedrals? Perform rituals and sacraments? Don priests' robes? Teach people to light candles, pray to dead saints? No, He simply went around preaching the gospel calling for repentance, doing good and obeying the leading and unction of His Father in heaven. In simplicity. For this He was persecuted and crucified by the religion of that day. His example is what HIS body on earth is to follow.
I agree.
Christianity is getting watered down.
Do we even know what it is anymore?
Seems to me folk make up their own religion and call it Christianity.
Maybe we could say both in a way brother. Because love fulfills those 10 Laws. And the written Law still serves to instruct and remind us. (Even the ordinances that were nailed to the cross still instruct in spiritual truths that they are a picture or allegory of.) But the moral/ethical laws are written on our hearts now and we serve in the new way of the Spirit, not the old way of the letter. The new way of the Spirit also means there is mercy available should we need it, as we all may need it from time to time for specific things (as well as we have thankfully received that mercy in an overarching kind of way). And I believe we serve in the new way of the spirit as concerns the teachings/commands of Jesus too, not the old way of the letter.
Correct Sister-and praise God for His mercy and grace.
Romans 13:10: "Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law."
Romans 7:12: "So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good."
Colossians 2:17: "These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ."
Jeremiah 31:33: "'This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time,' declares the LORD. 'I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.'"
Romans 7:6: "But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code."
Matthew 5:7: "Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy."
John 15:12: "My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you."
amigo de christo
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I do not know whether or not you truly realize the depth of what the true lambs are up against sister .
WHEN I SAID the devil is gonna unify the denominations and even other relgioins , HE GONNA DO IT sister .
People could give a care less about true sound doctrine anymore .
By golly if someone just says the name of JESUS they must be HIS
and worse , now its getting so bad THAT even the false religoins are somehow of GOD TOO .
The RCC is spawned by satan . THERE i said it .
And will make no apologies .
But as always they who are now being grafted into the false love , will say
SO you gonna say everyone who is catholic serves satan .
OR everyone who is mormon is lost etc .
JUST cause there might be a few true believers who might have either started out in a false system
or stumbled into one , DONT MEAN I AINT GONNA WARN everyone in said false system TO GET THE HECK OUT OF IT .
in other words they can try and sell their song however they want .
I know folks might be in a bad system but rather than make excuse for said system or said person
GUESS what i am going to do . WHAT THESE wont do , WARN THEM TO GET THE HECK OUT OF FALSE PLACES
that teach that false doctrine .
IN other words they can say OH you cant say there are no true saints within the catholic church .
YEAH , BUT I WOULD TELL THEM GET THE HECK OUT OF THAT HOLE ITS DANGEROUS
and IF THEY ARE A LAMB, believe me once GOD opens their eyes , THEY dont stay too long .
THEY COME OUT . i am done with false love and false unity. And it has made me and is now even making
me the enemy of some here . Cause i wont shut up about false doctrines and false places .
SO allow me some parting words . IF anyone is a member of the RCC , mormon church , jw
GET THE HECK OUT and start learning the bible . YOU are in a very dangeous place .
AND due to the fact i love you all , I WARN you all . Let them do as they do sister they wont be slowing me down .
SOMEONE has to warn . THE RCC is as was JEZEBEL , so is the mormom camp .
SO are other places i might add . SO what i am gonna do , WARN Folks to get out from said places .
OH i know GOD can awaken anyone of any group . BUT if i KNOW a place is dangerous , I WARNS GET OUT .
AND the RCC IS DANGEROUS , IS DEADLY and DOES TEACH DEADLY death .
amigo de christo
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Love sure does warn . so now lets examine something .
When i warn against the deadly dangerous place , such as the RCC , catholic church
To COME out of her . That aint judgmental or hateful .
OH i dont accuse anyone in it , I just say COME THE HECK OUT OF IT .
as i would the mormon camp , the JW , yeah i said JW too .
But just cause i warn against such places , somehow that makes me the extermist and enemy .
I dont condemn one mormon , one catholic , one jw or adventist or anyone .
BUT no man gonna stop me from warning anyone in dangerous places that teach deadly doctine
THEY GOT NO business in said place , nor TRYING TO UNIFY and find common ground with such .
Rather WARN a brother or sister . THAT is what i do .
SO allow me some parting words . and this is not to accuse anyone who might be influenced by it
but rather to warn them . THE ALL INCLUSIVE COMMON GROUND UNITY is OF SATAN . THERE i said it .
But i said it cause i i love the people and they better get back into the BIBLE for Themselves .
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