Hearing the Lord, and pride vs humility

[Christian Soldier]

Let me go over these comments - and show how false they all are:


No, I actually hear from the Lord Jesus Christ, via His Holy Spirit, testify to it, and back up what I say with Scriptures. So I tell you that "Anyone", can seek the Lord and find Him - but you say He has not spoken in 2,000 years. So because of you lack of faith in Him you can't hear from Him, and can't understand, and cant' accept our (all those who hear from the Lord Today) testimony. And here is the Scripture that explain that:

“Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know and testify of what we have seen, and you do not accept our testimony.



If your "Pastor" teaches you the Bible is your authority, then he is making and idol out of his Bible. And because you capitalized pastor, it seem you also are making an idol out of your "Pastor". Now I have a "Pastor", and by capitalizing pastor, I am telling you the Jesus Christ the Lord our God is my Pastor. I have also had many pastors at churches that He (My Pastor) has had me attend, but you don't believe He can talk to you, so He is certainly not your Pastor. And your Pastor can not save you, but mine can and does.

1 Cor 12:3 Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus is accursed”; and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.



This is irrelevant to our conversation, because this refers to people on earth, and I am pointing you to Jesus Christ who sits on the throne in the Kingdom of heaven. But you are saying in your heart that the Word of God is far from us, in that far off place called heaven, so we can not hear from Him Today. So I have already quoted you the following verse, but you did not believe the verses in the Bible are correct and apply to you, so you reject them. Yet here is that reproof for you again:

Rom 10: 6-8 But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: “DO NOT SAY IN YOUR HEART, ‘WHO WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN?’ (that is, to bring Christ down), or ‘WHO WILL DESCEND INTO THE ABYSS?’ (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).” But what does it say? “THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,

So Paul back then had to deal with people just like you, who were saying that God did not speak to them at that time. So the Scriptures are good for reproof, but the stubborn man, not willing to seek our Lord Jesus Christ does not believe the very Scriptures they are trying to put their faith in.



Well, since I was right there in Romans 10 . I might as well reprove you with these handy verese:

Rom 10:17 How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher?
How will they preach unless they are sent? Just as it is written, “HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS!”
However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, “LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?”
So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.

It of course is no coincidence that the reproof for the above comment of your was found in the same place and the reproof for the prior comment of yours, because as I mentioned - you are exactly like those Paul was writing to and reproving when he was writing Romans 10.

Your are one who "However, the did not all heed the good news' like Paul wrote, and the reason we also find the writings of Isaiah in our bible today also and so we read "“LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?”

So you scoff at the power of God, deny the God is still around doing miracles, because we hear Him and do what He askes. And so these verses are also for you to reprove you:

Mark 16:19.20 So then, when the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.
And they went out and preached everywhere, while the Lord worked with them, and confirmed the word by the signs that followed.] {And they promptly reported all these instructions to Peter and his companions. And after that, Jesus Himself sent out through them from east to west the sacred and imperishable proclamation of eternal salvation.]

The Bible is right, but you are wrong. Yes, Jesus "was received up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God". And yes we real Christians go and preach everywhere while the Lord works with us, even giving us instructions, even from the throne of God where He sits with His Father. So Yes, signs and wonders follow because He, God, is working with us. But No, it is not magic, it is our Lord Jesus Christ working with us from the throne of God. How is it you don't know this? Isn't it because you don't believe in Him, that He was received up into heaven but that just means that He works with us from there, giving us instructions via His Holy Spirit, and confirming what He tells us by the signs that follow!!

So in your disbelief you write:



It is not an "opinion", but it is based on belief in Jesus Christ! I have seen the miracles, the signs, the wonders of God, which you have scoffed at!! So a last verse for you sir:

Prov 24:9 The devising of folly is sin,
And the scoffer is an abomination to men.

You have no idea how blasphemous and wicked it is to make God a liar, by making all of these false claims and abusing verses of scripture by twisting their meaning and forcing them to fit into your false doctrine of Demons.

Galatians 1:6-12 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

As you can see by the above verse, God told His children to rebuke those Angels you're speaking to. But you have been blinded by them to believe that they are from God but they are from Satan and they have deceived you into believing the gospel of Satan.

Jesus finished the work His father sent Him to do, He said everting He had to say. Then He said "it is finished", and He went back to heaven. But you claim He didn't finish telling us everything and He is still speaking to you and trying to convince you to accept what He said and did for you 2000 years ago. That means that you reject everything He did and said, and now He has to do everything all over again to prove that He is worthy to serve you and save you.

I asked for a single example of where Jesus has spoken to someone in the past 2000 years, but you quote old testament prophets and new testament Apostles, and claim to be a latter day apostle who is still receiving new revelation and that's highly disrespectful and blasphemous to Gods Holy Spirit.

There were never any other apostles after the 12 Jesus chose, so why do you quote the apostles when they said we preach what we heard. You were never with Jesus to hear Him and you have never gone up to heaven to speak with Him, but you are speaking with Demons. Jesus is not your buddy, who hangs out with you because you're a cool guy. The Devil hangs out with cool guys.

None of your claims can be supported by God Word, and this "Healing Ministry" thing is Satanic, because no such thing exists. But there are "Satanic Black Magic" Ministries, Satan can perform miracles, to deceive the Devils Children in to following Him to the lake of fire.

You obviously don't believe what God said about this, because you reject everything He says when it exposes your false doctrine. God said in;

Matt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

But you have embrace the false Christs and sold your soul to them, because they speak to you and do their black magic and you reject the true Christ and embrace the false Christs because they impress you with their black magic.,

 

[Karl Peters]

You have no idea how blasphemous and wicked it is to make God a liar

Yes - so were you here that His sheep hear His voice, you need to believe it!!

When He says He says He stands at the door and knocks and if anyone hears His voice, He will come into them and eat with them and them with Him - you need to believe Him!!

Where He said that many on that day will tell Him what they did in His name, but He will tell them He never knew them - it should cause you to make sure you seek Him and start listening to Him so that you do get to know Him!!

And where you read that His Father said "Listen to Him", you need to fear God and seek the Lord our God Jesus Christ and listen to Him!!

And where you read that Moses gave the command to "Hear, O Israel", you should have done that if you are going to be connected to the Jewish root, which is Jesus Christ!

And this stubborn failure to believe in Him is going to cost you all, if because of your pride you don't start seeking Jesus Christ by hearing with faith - as is written all over the Bible.

And don't think you have any discernment of spirit, because to discern between two things both things must be there - but you say God is no longer around to be heard from - so you are clearly no man of God. All the men of God who heard from God and wrote Scriptures had one thing in common - They heard from the Lord - but you don't according to your own statements!!

And you pride is keeping you from even seeking Him, so you deny Him over and over and over again. Christian do not do that. They are followers of Jesus Christ and it is written that He leads them with His voice, of which you deny. It will cost you, and the price you will pay if you don't repent and then turn to Jesus Christ by faith is something real Christian don't wish on anyone. So, we preach Jesus Christ and Him as the Word of God, meaning we encourage people to listen to Him Today! But a person who thinks they are smarter that God won't even seek Him to see if He is there to be heard from.

You have had your notice from me, from all the writers of Scriptures, and so many more that you have no idea because you refuse to listen! But you make a great example of what this thread was about.

Hearing the Lord requires a person to have some humility, at least enough to realize that they need the Lord our God so that they repent of their ways and seek our Lord Jesus Christ earnestly, to at least see if He is there to help them. Yet the person who if full of pride thinks they are even smarter than God, so they don't seek Him and they tell themselves that He is not there, least they find out that they are not smarter than God and have to submit to His advice. So they tell themselves that God is not there to be heard from.

Just curious - what do you do when you come across Christian songs like "He walks with me and He talks with me and He tells me I am His own" - or how about "Hark the herald angels sing" -- they are clearly telling you about the KING OF KINGS and His Kingdom, but you have to deny those songs too, because there were not written over 2000 years ago. You somehow must think they are actually demonic songs, right?

 

[Christian Soldier]

Yes - so were you here that His sheep hear His voice, you need to believe it!!

When He says He says He stands at the door and knocks and if anyone hears His voice, He will come into them and eat with them and them with Him - you need to believe Him!!

Where He said that many on that day will tell Him what they did in His name, but He will tell them He never knew them - it should cause you to make sure you seek Him and start listening to Him so that you do get to know Him!!

And where you read that His Father said "Listen to Him", you need to fear God and seek the Lord our God Jesus Christ and listen to Him!!

And where you read that Moses gave the command to "Hear, O Israel", you should have done that if you are going to be connected to the Jewish root, which is Jesus Christ!

And this stubborn failure to believe in Him is going to cost you all, if because of your pride you don't start seeking Jesus Christ by hearing with faith - as is written all over the Bible.

And don't think you have any discernment of spirit, because to discern between two things both things must be there - but you say God is no longer around to be heard from - so you are clearly no man of God. All the men of God who heard from God and wrote Scriptures had one thing in common - They heard from the Lord - but you don't according to your own statements!!

And you pride is keeping you from even seeking Him, so you deny Him over and over and over again. Christian do not do that. They are followers of Jesus Christ and it is written that He leads them with His voice, of which you deny. It will cost you, and the price you will pay if you don't repent and then turn to Jesus Christ by faith is something real Christian don't wish on anyone. So, we preach Jesus Christ and Him as the Word of God, meaning we encourage people to listen to Him Today! But a person who thinks they are smarter that God won't even seek Him to see if He is there to be heard from.

You have had your notice from me, from all the writers of Scriptures, and so many more that you have no idea because you refuse to listen! But you make a great example of what this thread was about.

Hearing the Lord requires a person to have some humility, at least enough to realize that they need the Lord our God so that they repent of their ways and seek our Lord Jesus Christ earnestly, to at least see if He is there to help them. Yet the person who if full of pride thinks they are even smarter than God, so they don't seek Him and they tell themselves that He is not there, least they find out that they are not smarter than God and have to submit to His advice. So they tell themselves that God is not there to be heard from.

Just curious - what do you do when you come across Christian songs like "He walks with me and He talks with me and He tells me I am His own" - or how about "Hark the herald angels sing" -- they are clearly telling you about the KING OF KINGS and His Kingdom, but you have to deny those songs too, because there were not written over 2000 years ago. You somehow must think they are actually demonic songs, right?

Jesus said "My sheep hear my voice" 2000 years ago, when He walked the earth. But He left the earth 2000 years ago, but some drug addicts and mentally ill people and some who are possessed by Devils still think He talks to them. They are under strong Demonic Delusion.

I've never heard a single intelligent person claim that Jesus speaks to them, it's always junkies and Devil possessed people. i have tried hard to hear Jesus, but He has never spoken to me once. So He has no right to punish me, because if I didn't hear Him it's His fault for remaining silent for the past 2000 years.
You can't punish someone for trying to hear you while you hide and keep quite, can you understand simple English or not???

I have offered you my house if you can find a single case whare Jesus spoke to a normal person, but you can't refer to junkies or devil possessed people as evidence. All I would need is one normal person to testify and the house is yours.

Jesus has never knocked on y door, I would let Him in and feed Him but He's not around anymore, so again I will give you my house if you see Him and take a selfie with Him on your cell phone and upload the picture here and I will give you my house. So, yeah I won't hold my breath waiting for that rubbish either.

Moses gave the commandment to :hear o Israel" to the Israelites, I'm not a Hebrew, I'm a Anglo Saxon so that command has nothing to do with me, because I'm not connected to any Jewish root. So again your comment is foolish.

Why do you keep referring to Old Testament Prophets, who God gave the scriptures to, and try to compare yourself to them. You are nobody, God never gave you any prophecies or revelation, so again this shows strong delusion on your part.

I don't accept any notice or warnings from you as I am convinced that you have come under strong demonic delusion. I only take warnings from those who are of a sound mind. The scriptures say, the fruit of the Spirit is a sound mind. But all I've seen from you is strong demonic doctrine.

God never gave us any Christian songs, so again more nonsense. I would be very pleased if you got at least one thing right, it would give me some hope that you may have some capacity to reason, but it seems that you are beyond reason.

 

[Karl Peters]

God never gave us any Christian songs, so again more nonsense.

Well - that goes with all else you write! You don't have ears to hear!

Ps 40:3 He put a new song in my mouth, a song of praise to our God;
Many will see and fear
And will trust in the LORD.

Ps 33:3 Sing to Him a new song;
Play skillfully with a shout of joy.

Ps 98:1 A Psalm.
O sing to the LORD a new song,
For He has done wonderful things,
His right hand and His holy arm have gained the victory for Him.

Ps 144:9 I will sing a new song to You, O God;
Upon a harp of ten strings I will sing praises to You,

Ps 149:1 Praise the LORD!
Sing to the LORD a new song,
And His praise in the congregation of the godly ones.

Is 42:10 Sing to the LORD a new song,
Sing His praise from the end of the earth!
You who go down to the sea, and all that is in it.
You islands, and those who dwell on them.

Job 36:24 “Remember that you should exalt His work,
Of which men have sung.

Deut 29:4 “Yet to this day the LORD has not given you a heart to know, nor eyes to see, nor ears to hear.

Ezek 12:2 “Son of man, you live in the midst of the rebellious house, who have eyes to see but do not see, ears to hear but do not hear; for they are a rebellious house.

Rom 11:8 just as it is written,
“GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY.

Is 30:21 Your ears will hear a word behind you, “This is the way, walk in it,” whenever you turn to the right or to the left.

Her 6:10 To whom shall I speak and give warning
That they may hear?
Behold, their ears are closed
And they cannot listen.
Behold, the word of the LORD has become a reproach to them;
They have no delight in it.

1 Cor 14:26 Well, my brothers and sisters, let's summarize. When you meet together, one will sing, another will teach, another will tell some special revelation God has given, one will speak in tongues, and another will interpret what is said. But everything that is done must strengthen all of you.

The Bible describes how it is, but if you don't have ears to hear, what can be said to you?

It is a sad situation you are in. You don't hear Him speak to you. You don't get a song from the Holy Spirit well up in you. And it seem you deny everything written in the Bible. It is so sad.

Now I am not a man with a great voice, but He even gives me songs, and what is most interesting to me is that He often will have that fire of His well up in me and I will break out singing in tongues - and if I ask Him He can turn that song in tongue to that song in English. But if your spirit can't pick up His Holy Spirit, then you miss it all!

1 Cor 14:15 What is the outcome then? I will pray with the spirit and I will pray with the mind also; I will sing with the spirit and I will sing with the mind also.

Every time you write you show that you don't know Him, you don't listen to Him, and you don't even get a song from Him. You just don't have a personal relationship with Him, so you don't understand!

God is omni-present! He always has been, but some choose not to believe, because of the pride in them.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Well - that goes with all else you write! You don't have ears to hear!

Ps 40:3 He put a new song in my mouth, a song of praise to our God;
Many will see and fear
And will trust in the LORD.

Ps 33:3 Sing to Him a new song;
Play skillfully with a shout of joy.

Ps 98:1 A Psalm.
O sing to the LORD a new song,
For He has done wonderful things,
His right hand and His holy arm have gained the victory for Him.

Ps 144:9 I will sing a new song to You, O God;
Upon a harp of ten strings I will sing praises to You,

Ps 149:1 Praise the LORD!
Sing to the LORD a new song,
And His praise in the congregation of the godly ones.

Is 42:10 Sing to the LORD a new song,
Sing His praise from the end of the earth!
You who go down to the sea, and all that is in it.
You islands, and those who dwell on them.

Job 36:24 “Remember that you should exalt His work,
Of which men have sung.

Deut 29:4 “Yet to this day the LORD has not given you a heart to know, nor eyes to see, nor ears to hear.

Ezek 12:2 “Son of man, you live in the midst of the rebellious house, who have eyes to see but do not see, ears to hear but do not hear; for they are a rebellious house.

Rom 11:8 just as it is written,
“GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY.

Is 30:21 Your ears will hear a word behind you, “This is the way, walk in it,” whenever you turn to the right or to the left.

Her 6:10 To whom shall I speak and give warning
That they may hear?
Behold, their ears are closed
And they cannot listen.
Behold, the word of the LORD has become a reproach to them;
They have no delight in it.

1 Cor 14:26 Well, my brothers and sisters, let's summarize. When you meet together, one will sing, another will teach, another will tell some special revelation God has given, one will speak in tongues, and another will interpret what is said. But everything that is done must strengthen all of you.

The Bible describes how it is, but if you don't have ears to hear, what can be said to you?

It is a sad situation you are in. You don't hear Him speak to you. You don't get a song from the Holy Spirit well up in you. And it seem you deny everything written in the Bible. It is so sad.

Now I am not a man with a great voice, but He even gives me songs, and what is most interesting to me is that He often will have that fire of His well up in me and I will break out singing in tongues - and if I ask Him He can turn that song in tongue to that song in English. But if your spirit can't pick up His Holy Spirit, then you miss it all!

1 Cor 14:15 What is the outcome then? I will pray with the spirit and I will pray with the mind also; I will sing with the spirit and I will sing with the mind also.

Every time you write you show that you don't know Him, you don't listen to Him, and you don't even get a song from Him. You just don't have a personal relationship with Him, so you don't understand!

God is omni-present! He always has been, but some choose not to believe, because of the pride in them.

God never gave me or you any songs, so to suggest that He did is a blatant lie. Why did you mention David, Isaiah, Job. I know God spoke to them and gave them songs, but where did He ever give anyone outside of the bible a song????. Let me guess, when they used psychedelic drugs and communicated with Demons.

Your theology is completely messed up and incoherent, you have no ability to discern what the scriptures you quote are actually saying or who they apply to. So I would recommend you join a beginners bible study group, as it's obvious you don't have the ability to rightly divide the Word of God.

You don't even know the difference between a song and a hymn, you should know that anyone can write a song about their personal experience. But a hymns are used to recite doctrinal truths, where as a song can be all lies.

Corinthians says "ONE WILL SING" but you turn that into a foolish commandment for everyone to become singer song writers and the bible never said any such thing.

OK, now you confirm that Demons speak through you. Because only a person with a Demons can speak in tongues. The Bible never mentions anyone speaking in tongues, so that idea comes straight from the pits of hell and it confirms that the person speaking in these tongues has a Demon.
You don't even know the basic fact that "tongue" means language in the Bible. When you speak in tongues, the Demon is speaking his curse on you and those around you in his own language, he has blinded you so much that you don't even know what you're blabbing out.

You're right, I don't know your god, but the way you describe him it's sounds very much like the Devil.

 

[Karl Peters]

God never gave me or you any songs, so to suggest that He did is a blatant lie.

It is not that you deny me, with that statement, but you deny The Lord our God - saying He does not do what He said He will do!

So even if I tell you the Bible is correct and accurate - you deny it!! Saying He does not personally give His people songs -though that is what is written and testified to. And when I give you a statement or a teaching He gave me - say He does not speak to people. Even though the writers of the Bible tell He does. And even though they recount when the Father commanded the disciples of Jesus Christ "This is My Son in whom I am well-please, Listen to Him" - you say that He is not there to be heard from anymore. And even though the writers of Scriptures from Moses to Paul, tell you that the Word is near you, and so don't say in your heart the He is either dead or in a far off place called heaven so He can't be heard from - you deny it. And all that time you show that you deny Him.

I personally don't care if you don't believe He gives me songs, even me who is poor at singing and wasn't even good at the one instrument my parents got me (an accordiant) as a kids and provided me lessons in it - the Lord will still get me up on the morning with a New Song, and He will even send His Holy Spirit causing me to sing in tongue, and He can even translate it into english, but still you cannot believe because you deny our omni-present God over and over and over - and you think I have a problem with demonic spirit?

They tried to tell Jesus He had a demon, but it was them - those religious Pharisees and Sadducees, and so He told them the truth:

Jn 5:38 “You do not have His word abiding in you, for you do not believe Him whom He sent.

You come under the heading of:

Num 15:31 ‘Because he has despised the word of the LORD and has broken His commandment, that person shall be completely cut off; his guilt will be on him.'”

His Father said "LISTEN TO HIM"
Through Moses it was command "Hear, O Isreal"
And through the prophets it was explained:

Is 28:12He who said to them, “Here is rest, give rest to the weary,” And, “Here is repose,” but they would not listen.

And you can't see it was all written to you, so you say the He has not spoke to anyone for 2000 years.

So then this the following verses (Is 28:13) applies to you:

Is 28:13 So the word of the LORD to them will be,
“Order on order, order on order,
Line on line, line on line,
A little here, a little there,”
That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared and taken captive.

Yeah - you call the orderly lines in the Bible that you just read a little hear and there, but don't believe them, the word - just Like Isaiah said you would, and so you go stumbling backward are broken, snared but the enemy and taken captive - and you think anyone who did listen has a demons. You are just like those religious Jews back then who did not have His word abiding in them, so He told them in the following verses:

Jn 5:39,40 You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me;
and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.

If you do not repent of your ways, and seek His reproof which is handed down to you Today, then you will be told by Him that He never knew you! And to hell and the pit you will go. So take head to the goods news now, least you continue in your rebellion! The Good News is in these verses:

Rev 3:19,20 ‘Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent.
‘Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.

And if you really care for the pastor you write about, you should share the Good News with Him too. You and Him are both "anyone's", so even if you two repent of your ways (saying He is not near us to be heard from) then you two can open up to Jesus Christ, and let Him into your lives simply by hearing Him with faith!!

Heck - He will give you New Songs - He will give you gifts from His Holy Spirit. You will see Him do miracles, if you listen to Him on those days called Today. It turns out the Bible is correct!!! Jesus Christ is there for us. He never leaves us. If by faith in Him you start listening to Him you will get to know Him personally. You will see miracles, signs, and wonders, as He works with you when you do what He askes. But the scoofer will not believe and his life/death is on himself because He did not believe in Jesus Christ and instead said in His heart that Jesus is either dead or in a far-off place called heaven and so His Kingdom is not in our midst. My friend - it is only your pride that keeps you from seeking Jesus Christ. He loves you soooooo much, that again this morning He told me to write you again.

And He loves people sooo much, that He told me like He did Ezekiel - I am sending you to a people who will not be willing to listen to you because they are not willing to listen to Him -

Ezek 3:5 -9 “For you are not being sent to a people of unintelligible speech or difficult language, but to the house of Israel,
nor to many peoples of unintelligible speech or difficult language, whose words you cannot understand. But I have sent you to them who should listen to you; yet the house of Israel will not be willing to listen to you, since they are not willing to listen to Me. Surely the whole house of Israel is stubborn and obstinate.
“Behold, I have made your face as hard as their faces and your forehead as hard as their foreheads. “Like emery harder than flint I have made your forehead. Do not be afraid of them or be dismayed before them, though they are a rebellious house.”

So we have gone round and round - Me testifying that He is still saying Today, and you saying that He is gone for now and does speak - but the Bible explains that you are wrong!!

 

[Karl Peters]

Now the post I just made is the really important one - however there are a few other things / mistakes that I often see around Christianity that are wrongly interpreted by many, and they all have to do with not hearing the Lord and actually speaking to Him! And again we don't do that because of our pride - which is to say because of our pride we don't actually reason with Him but instead we lean on our own understanding!

Now this is a great example of the type of mistake people commonly make, because they lean on their understanding instead of actually reasoning with the Lord, so they actually get true understanding!!

Corinthians says "ONE WILL SING" but you turn that into a foolish commandment for everyone to become singer song writers and the bible never said any such thing.

1 Cor 12 - 14 is about a gathering of believers' so the context in what we might call a service!

In a service, a gathering of a group of believer's, the Lord will have different people to various things. So at the average church service how many people sing??? The answer is that usually just about everyone there sings!!!!!! So is Chistian Soldier correct by saying "ONE WILL SING"?? NO - his interpretation of the Scriptures is very obviously wrong!!! So what was Paul talking about? Indeed, did Paul ever write ""ONE WILL SING"??? Where is that in Corinthians?? Paul writes "I will sing"!


1 Cor 14:15 What is the outcome then? I will pray with the spirit and I will pray with the mind also; I will sing with the spirit and I will sing with the mind also.

So looking at the "outcome" first we find that Paul will pray with the spirit and will pray with the mind also (what does that mean if a person cannot pray in tongue and with their mind also), and the "outcome" includes singing with the spirit and sing with our mind also!! But the "outcome" does not mean "ONE WILL SING"!!! Christian Soldier got that wrong as he did so many other things, but this getting things wrong, especially in this area, is not uncommon! Even the Corithians ( a real Christian church) were getting things wrong in there 'service'. But one thing they didn't get wrong, was not having the Holy Spirit and the gifts of the Spirit. They were just using them wrong. Where as a person saying, "only a person with a Demons can speak in tongues" does not have the Holy Spirit, because tongues came in with and to the devote believers, not the unbelievers!!

Or did anyone using any good reasoning say Paul, who wrote that he spoke in tongues more than the other, was demon possessed?? Still, Christian Soldier wrote:

only a person with a Demons can speak in tongues

Anyway, in Corithians we find:

Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit.
And there are varieties of ministries, and the same Lord.
There are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all persons.
But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.
For to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit;

God is wise and He is orderly!!! If we listen to Him, and get our instructions from Him, then the use of our Spiritual gifts will be wise and orderly also!!!

He will use people with good voices and who are talented musicians to lead our worship - and honestly that is not me!! I don't even know that it was Paul? I can't find in the Bible where Paul was a musician and talented singer? He was a tent maker and used to be a Pharisee of Pharisees, knowing the Scriptures really well, wasn't he. So it made since that God would convert Saul to a Christian we know as Paul and since he was well versed in the verses, He used Paul to write Scriptures, after he spent a good deal of time talking to the Lord personally, so that he did say, "Who are you Lord?", anymore!!

So the Lord gives me songs, but He doesn't have me sing them - because I don't have a good voice for singing!! Nor am I a musician! So the songs He gives me are for me, personally!! And so when I say that the Lord wants a personal relationship with you, I mean just that!! It is personal. He talks to you personally!! He is about teaching you!! About encouraging you!!

Now because I do hear from Him and I too have experiences in the past, He wisely uses me in that capacity. I was a retail manager when He came into my life, so it should not be surprising that He had me open and operate a Christian bookstore for Him!! What would you do if a retail manager dedicates his life to you, and you were God?

And since I listen to Him, He also liked using me in a Christian healing ministry! Or have we not read about the connection between healing and listening to Him?

Ex 15:26 and said, “If you diligently heed the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in His sight, give ear to His commandments and keep all His statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you which I have brought on the Egyptians. For I am the LORD who heals you.”

Further more, and this in important! It is written to desire the gifts!! It does not say this gift of that gift and not others, but it says to desire them, period!!! And with especial emphasis on prophesy!!!

1 Cor 14:1 Pursue love, yet desire earnestly spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy.

So if God tells you to desire them, do you??? It is a command from God through Paul, is it not? So if you desire something, do you not seek it and ask for it?? And if you ask God for the gifts of the Spirit and He told you to desire them, are you not going to get them?? Of course you are, but we don't want them, or why else did we have to be told to desire them?

Too many people say they are Christians, but they don't want what God wants the to have - which includes a personal relationship with His Son!!! Or do we not understand that all the gifts of the Spirit are design to get you to listen to the Lord our God, Jesus Christ?????

Christian Soldier does not want the gifts of the Holy Spirit and even calls them as being from the devil, because I does not want them!! He say that God does not speak to us Today, because He does not want to hear from God! He rejects the Lord our God at every turn, but He wants to say he is a "Christian Soldier" because he takes pride in that!!

Too many come here to this forum for that reason. Too many pretend to be obedient, but are not listening to the Lord Jesus Christ whom that say they are following!! And the consequences of that are massive!!!

Ps 81:15 “Those who hate the LORD would pretend obedience to Him,
And their time of punishment would be forever.

Still, the Lord loves them and tries to save them!! And since they won't listen to Him, He sends people and has people write to them!! Moses wrote to them, but they did not believe Moses, Isaiah wrote to the, but they did not believe Isaiah. He tells people to preach the Word (and Jesus Christ is the Word of God) and they will not believe them either! So it is just and fair that their time of punishment would be forever - but the work of God is still that all should come to know Him. That means we still keep telling them that He is their for us Today!!!

 

[Christian Soldier]

It is not that you deny me, with that statement, but you deny The Lord our God - saying He does not do what He said He will do!

So even if I tell you the Bible is correct and accurate - you deny it!! Saying He does not personally give His people songs -though that is what is written and testified to. And when I give you a statement or a teaching He gave me - say He does not speak to people. Even though the writers of the Bible tell He does. And even though they recount when the Father commanded the disciples of Jesus Christ "This is My Son in whom I am well-please, Listen to Him" - you say that He is not there to be heard from anymore. And even though the writers of Scriptures from Moses to Paul, tell you that the Word is near you, and so don't say in your heart the He is either dead or in a far off place called heaven so He can't be heard from - you deny it. And all that time you show that you deny Him.

I personally don't care if you don't believe He gives me songs, even me who is poor at singing and wasn't even good at the one instrument my parents got me (an accordiant) as a kids and provided me lessons in it - the Lord will still get me up on the morning with a New Song, and He will even send His Holy Spirit causing me to sing in tongue, and He can even translate it into english, but still you cannot believe because you deny our omni-present God over and over and over - and you think I have a problem with demonic spirit?

They tried to tell Jesus He had a demon, but it was them - those religious Pharisees and Sadducees, and so He told them the truth:

Jn 5:38 “You do not have His word abiding in you, for you do not believe Him whom He sent.

You come under the heading of:

Num 15:31 ‘Because he has despised the word of the LORD and has broken His commandment, that person shall be completely cut off; his guilt will be on him.'”

His Father said "LISTEN TO HIM"
Through Moses it was command "Hear, O Isreal"
And through the prophets it was explained:

Is 28:12He who said to them, “Here is rest, give rest to the weary,” And, “Here is repose,” but they would not listen.

And you can't see it was all written to you, so you say the He has not spoke to anyone for 2000 years.

So then this the following verses (Is 28:13) applies to you:

Is 28:13 So the word of the LORD to them will be,
“Order on order, order on order,
Line on line, line on line,
A little here, a little there,”
That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared and taken captive.

Yeah - you call the orderly lines in the Bible that you just read a little hear and there, but don't believe them, the word - just Like Isaiah said you would, and so you go stumbling backward are broken, snared but the enemy and taken captive - and you think anyone who did listen has a demons. You are just like those religious Jews back then who did not have His word abiding in them, so He told them in the following verses:

Jn 5:39,40 You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me;
and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.

If you do not repent of your ways, and seek His reproof which is handed down to you Today, then you will be told by Him that He never knew you! And to hell and the pit you will go. So take head to the goods news now, least you continue in your rebellion! The Good News is in these verses:

Rev 3:19,20 ‘Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent.
‘Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.

And if you really care for the pastor you write about, you should share the Good News with Him too. You and Him are both "anyone's", so even if you two repent of your ways (saying He is not near us to be heard from) then you two can open up to Jesus Christ, and let Him into your lives simply by hearing Him with faith!!

Heck - He will give you New Songs - He will give you gifts from His Holy Spirit. You will see Him do miracles, if you listen to Him on those days called Today. It turns out the Bible is correct!!! Jesus Christ is there for us. He never leaves us. If by faith in Him you start listening to Him you will get to know Him personally. You will see miracles, signs, and wonders, as He works with you when you do what He askes. But the scoofer will not believe and his life/death is on himself because He did not believe in Jesus Christ and instead said in His heart that Jesus is either dead or in a far-off place called heaven and so His Kingdom is not in our midst. My friend - it is only your pride that keeps you from seeking Jesus Christ. He loves you soooooo much, that again this morning He told me to write you again.

And He loves people sooo much, that He told me like He did Ezekiel - I am sending you to a people who will not be willing to listen to you because they are not willing to listen to Him -

Ezek 3:5 -9 “For you are not being sent to a people of unintelligible speech or difficult language, but to the house of Israel,
nor to many peoples of unintelligible speech or difficult language, whose words you cannot understand. But I have sent you to them who should listen to you; yet the house of Israel will not be willing to listen to you, since they are not willing to listen to Me. Surely the whole house of Israel is stubborn and obstinate.
“Behold, I have made your face as hard as their faces and your forehead as hard as their foreheads. “Like emery harder than flint I have made your forehead. Do not be afraid of them or be dismayed before them, though they are a rebellious house.”

So we have gone round and round - Me testifying that He is still saying Today, and you saying that He is gone for now and oes speak - but the Bible explains that you are wrong!!

I have asked you to provide a scripture to support your private religious views but you have consistently failed to do so. If I was looking for private opinions I can chose any one of the 8 billion private opinions out there.

Gods opinion is the only one that I am interested in, because private opinions are like noses, everybody has their own.

You quote Joh 5:38 and accuse me of not believing in the Lord. How do you know that I don't believe in Him, and how do you know that you are not indwelt by a Demon who has poisoned your mind so you can't even discern the truth from lies.

Numbers 15:31 describes you perfectly, you despise Gods Word so much that you always twist it and force it to fit your false religion. It's obvious I don't believe in your god, because he only exists in your mind. The God of the Bible is the complete opposite of the god you describe. You god told you to add countless requirements, to the gospel. That way nobody can ever be saved because of the conditions your your god requires are impossible to meet.

You keep quoting Isaiah and the prophets and claim to be some kind of prophet yourself, but the sad truth is, the world has not had a Prophet or Apostle for the past 2000 years. My house is still available for free if you find a single shred of evidence to confirm tat God has spoken a single word in the last 2000 or that a Prophet or Apostle has existed in the last 2000 years.

I'm not the only one offering my house, there are millions of us doing the same and nobody has ever claimed the prize yet and they never will because they are all liars. Liars are the children of the Devil, Jesus said "You are the children of the Devil, He was a liar from the begging", you do the works of your Father the Devil.

 

[Karl Peters]

I have asked you to provide a scripture to support your private religious views but you have consistently failed to do so. If I was looking for private opinions I can chose any one of the 8 billion private opinions out there.

Gods opinion is the only one that I am interested in, because private opinions are like noses, everybody has their own.

You quote Joh 5:38 and accuse me of not believing in the Lord. How do you know that I don't believe in Him, and how do you know that you are not indwelt by a Demon who has poisoned your mind so you can't even discern the truth from lies.

Christian - you think the above because you don't believe in Him - so you don't listen to Him, reason with Him, discuss things with Him and can't accept the fact that real Christians actually do get to know and listen to Him!! You are accusing me of going by my opinion; failing to accept my testimony that He asks me to write you to try and get you to seek Him!!

Yeah - you can choose any one of the 8 billion private opinions out there, but since you say (thereby expressing your belief - lack thereof) that the Lord has not talked to anyone in the last 2000 years (which is not according to the Bible - it says Today) - anyway you don't believe that the Lord is around to get His opinion from!! So you can get all sorts of opinions, but not God's!!! So out of all the persons you can get an opinion from you can't choose God!!! Because you don't believed Jesus Christ, the Word of God is near you!!

And seriously - how many Scriptures have I given you already - and they all support my view of hearing the Lord Today - so you just are being stubborn and trying to gas light people - but it doesn't work - you are just lying to yourself because it is basically you and me discussing about whether God can and does talk to people Today?

But in case you somehow just missed all the verses saying God speaks to people, even Today - let me just requote and add as needed!

Deu 6:4 "Hear Israel, Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is the only God.

Jn 1:1,2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
He was in the beginning with God.

Deut 6:4 reads - “Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one!:

Ps 81:8 “Hear, O My people, and I will admonish you;
O Israel, if you would listen to Me!
Ps 81:11 “But My people did not listen to My voice,
And Israel did not obey Me.

Rev 19:13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.

Rom 10:4-8 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
For Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on law shall live by that righteousness.
But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: “DO NOT SAY IN YOUR HEART, ‘WHO WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN?’ (that is, to bring Christ down),
or ‘WHO WILL DESCEND INTO THE ABYSS?’ (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).”
But what does it say? “THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,

Gen 15:4 Then behold, the word of the LORD came to him, saying,
Sam 15:10 Then the word of the LORD came to Samuel, saying,
2 Sam 7:4 But in the same night the word of the LORD came to Nathan, saying,
2 Sam 24:11When David arose in the morning, the word of the LORD came to the prophet Gad, David's seer, saying,
2 Kings 6:11 Now the word of the LORD came to Solomon saying,
1 Kings 13:9 “For so it was commanded me by the word of the LORD, saying,

Jn 5:39,40 You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me; and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.

Jn 5:46,47 “For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me.
“But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”

Deut 8:20 “Like the nations that the LORD makes to perish before you, so you shall perish; because you would not listen to the voice of the LORD your God.

Ps 81:11 “But My people did not listen to My voice,
And Israel did not obey Me

Gal 3:1,2 You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified?
This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?

Is 1:23 Listen, O heavens, and hear, O earth;
For the LORD speaks,

Heb 5:11-14 Concerning him we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing.

Heb 4: 7 He again fixes a certain day, “Today,” saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before,
“TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE,
DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS.”

You say "Today" is not when we hear from Him, "He again fixes a certain day, “Today,” - and you deny Him speaking to us on that day called "Today"!!! You simply don't accept that God fixed "Today" as the day to hear from Him - but that is the day according to the Bible.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Christian - you think the above because you don't believe in Him - so you don't listen to Him, reason with Him, discuss things with Him and can't accept the fact that real Christians actually do get to know and listen to Him!! You are accusing me of going by my opinion; failing to accept my testimony that He asks me to write you to try and get you to seek Him!!

Yeah - you can choose any one of the 8 billion private opinions out there, but since you say (thereby expressing your belief - lack thereof) that the Lord has not talked to anyone in the last 2000 years (which is not according to the Bible - it says Today) - anyway you don't believe that the Lord is around to get His opinion from!! So you can get all sorts of opinions, but not God's!!! So out of all the persons you can get an opinion from you can't choose God!!! Because you don't believed Jesus Christ, the Word of God is near you!!

And seriously - how many Scriptures have I given you already - and they all support my view of hearing the Lord Today - so you just are being stubborn and trying to gas light people - but it doesn't work - you are just lying to yourself because it is basically you and me discussing about whether God can and does talk to people Today?

But in case you somehow just missed all the verses saying God speaks to people, even Today - let me just requote and add as needed!





























Heb 4: 7 He again fixes a certain day, “Today,” saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before,
“TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE,
DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS.”

You say "Today" is not when we hear from Him, "He again fixes a certain day, “Today,” - and you deny Him speaking to us on that day called "Today"!!! You simply don't accept that God fixed "Today" as the day to hear from Him - but that is the day according to the Bible.

You present more of the same false nonsense which I have already destroyed, by the Word of God. I'm not going to betray my Savior and believe your private religious views, which all expose your religion as false and your god as non existent.

I didn't miss any verses, but I did reject your false interpretation of every single one of them. I offered you my house for free but you rejected it because you know that the bible doesn't support your false religion.

 

[Karl Peters]

You present more of the same false nonsense which I have already destroyed, by the Word of God. I'm not going to betray my Savior and believe your private religious views, which all expose your religion as false and your god as non existent.

I didn't miss any verses, but I did reject your false interpretation of every single one of them. I offered you my house for free but you rejected it because you know that the bible doesn't support your false religion.

I typically get up in the morning, and after a show I sit in my favorite chair and pray the Lord's prayer with a few extras, then I listen for Him, and He doesn't fail to talk to me. I never know what it is going to be, but the Lord speaks to me via His Holy Spirit. Obviously I am not anywhere close to the only person who hears from Him. There are a great multitude of Christians, even Today, who hear from the Lord. My mom spent her life hearing from Him. My wife knows Him well. I meet her at a Christian church where everyone there seemed to hear from the Lord. And they were connected to others around the world who heard from the Lord really well, and regularly they would bring in speakers who all heard from the Lord, and it was a very small church.

And when I the Lord had me change churches back then, He had me go to very large Christian church whose pastor heard from the Lord, and the Lord had me help in a healing ministry there, which would have 30 to 40 other people working in it on Thursday nights, and they all heard from the Lord also. You could even help in it if you didn't hear from the Lord, because we were required to ask the Lord for a word for the person coming into be prayed for and write it down, and that before we knew anything about the person who was going to be coming in for prayer. And that very large church also had many connections to Chrisitan churches around the world, who also had people who heard from the Lord. And not only that church, but the healing ministry I helped in was part of an international ministry itself called "International Association of Healing Rooms (IAHR)" who at the time I was an extremely small part of it, had over 3,000 locations worldwide. I think they were all also asked to write down what they got from the Lord before they prayed for people and before they too had seen who they were gong to pray for.

Which brings me back to what I heard from the Lord this morning, when I sat down with Him. The first thing He told me was that He again wanted me to post. I do understand that Christian Soldier doesn't believe that the Lord is still talking to people and has been silent for the last 2000 years, and feels nobody had heard Him in that time so he will not believe my testimony, but it is true. And along with wanting me to post again, He specifically told me, "People don't want to talk to Me so badly that defy all types of logic to do so!" The Lord told me that personally, but of course Christian Soldier will probably still not believe in Him. And yet when I considered what was said to me "all types of logic", I found it interesting and ask the Lord what He meant by "all types of logic"?

He responded by saying, "The become illogical, in every sense. For example:" He continued... and gave me examples.

The first example He gave me was about how if you told someone to go speak to your neighbor they would not think you neighbor died or would return after being gone 2000 years, would they? The only logical conclusion was that your neighbor had to be available to talk to! So it is illogical for someone to think that I AM not around when someone asks you to listen to Me.

Next He went over all the people around that do hear from Him, and reminded me of the people and events I put forth at the beginning of this post. So the testimonies about Him speaking to people are so many that even if the question came up as to whether God was around to speak to people, it could be refuted logically with the sheer number of people who claim to hear from Him. So a person has to defy all types of logic to maintain the position that He is not around to speak to people Today. So they defy all logic to maintain their desire to not hear from Him.

He then explained "That it is just stubbornness, and it will be rightfully judged accordingly."


I feel sorry for poor Christian Soldier. He has not even provided a single verse that shows that we cannot hear from Jesus Christ, whose name is called The Word of God. So the Bible also counters everything, including the Bible being the "The Word of God" (Rev 19:13), that he writes. The only thing Christian presented to even remotely suggest that Jesus is not around to be heard from is His ascension back into heaven. But He was there before he took on flesh, and all the writers of the Old Testament heard from Him and wrote, before He descended from heaven, so it is illogical to think that He can not speak to us Today from heaven, when He spoke to men for thousands of years (even to the time of Adan and Eve, while He was in heaven before. So all of Christian's Soldiers thinking does make sense.

But it is written that as you judge so shall you be judged, and Jesus explained that even He did not judge, but as He heard He judged.

So while Christian Soldier judges my logic and belief to be "false nonsense", it is actually him who is already judged by God, even before I set my eyes on his last post, to be the illogical one.

I figure that his opinion will remain as it is, because he still won't believe the testimonies of God being around to be heard from Today. But they need to be given so he will fully and complete be responsible for the outcome that results from unbelief in our omni-present Lord and God, Jesus Christ.

 

[Christian Soldier]

I typically get up in the morning, and after a show I sit in my favorite chair and pray the Lord's prayer with a few extras, then I listen for Him, and He doesn't fail to talk to me. I never know what it is going to be, but the Lord speaks to me via His Holy Spirit. Obviously I am not anywhere close to the only person who hears from Him. There are a great multitude of Christians, even Today, who hear from the Lord. My mom spent her life hearing from Him. My wife knows Him well. I meet her at a Christian church where everyone there seemed to hear from the Lord. And they were connected to others around the world who heard from the Lord really well, and regularly they would bring in speakers who all heard from the Lord, and it was a very small church.

And when I the Lord had me change churches back then, He had me go to very large Christian church whose pastor heard from the Lord, and the Lord had me help in a healing ministry there, which would have 30 to 40 other people working in it on Thursday nights, and they all heard from the Lord also. You could even help in it if you didn't hear from the Lord, because we were required to ask the Lord for a word for the person coming into be prayed for and write it down, and that before we knew anything about the person who was going to be coming in for prayer. And that very large church also had many connections to Chrisitan churches around the world, who also had people who heard from the Lord. And not only that church, but the healing ministry I helped in was part of an international ministry itself called "International Association of Healing Rooms (IAHR)" who at the time I was an extremely small part of it, had over 3,000 locations worldwide. I think they were all also asked to write down what they got from the Lord before they prayed for people and before they too had seen who they were gong to pray for.

Which brings me back to what I heard from the Lord this morning, when I sat down with Him. The first thing He told me was that He again wanted me to post. I do understand that Christian Soldier doesn't believe that the Lord is still talking to people and has been silent for the last 2000 years, and feels nobody had heard Him in that time so he will not believe my testimony, but it is true. And along with wanting me to post again, He specifically told me, "People don't want to talk to Me so badly that defy all types of logic to do so!" The Lord told me that personally, but of course Christian Soldier will probably still not believe in Him. And yet when I considered what was said to me "all types of logic", I found it interesting and ask the Lord what He meant by "all types of logic"?

He responded by saying, "The become illogical, in every sense. For example:" He continued... and gave me examples.

The first example He gave me was about how if you told someone to go speak to your neighbor they would not think you neighbor died or would return after being gone 2000 years, would they? The only logical conclusion was that your neighbor had to be available to talk to! So it is illogical for someone to think that I AM not around when someone asks you to listen to Me.

Next He went over all the people around that do hear from Him, and reminded me of the people and events I put forth at the beginning of this post. So the testimonies about Him speaking to people are so many that even if the question came up as to whether God was around to speak to people, it could be refuted logically with the sheer number of people who claim to hear from Him. So a person has to defy all types of logic to maintain the position that He is not around to speak to people Today. So they defy all logic to maintain their desire to not hear from Him.

He then explained "That it is just stubbornness, and it will be rightfully judged accordingly."


I feel sorry for poor Christian Soldier. He has not even provided a single verse that shows that we cannot hear from Jesus Christ, whose name is called The Word of God. So the Bible also counters everything, including the Bible being the "The Word of God" (Rev 19:13), that he writes. The only thing Christian presented to even remotely suggest that Jesus is not around to be heard from is His ascension back into heaven. But He was there before he took on flesh, and all the writers of the Old Testament heard from Him and wrote, before He descended from heaven, so it is illogical to think that He can not speak to us Today from heaven, when He spoke to men for thousands of years (even to the time of Adan and Eve, while He was in heaven before. So all of Christian's Soldiers thinking does make sense.

But it is written that as you judge so shall you be judged, and Jesus explained that even He did not judge, but as He heard He judged.

So while Christian Soldier judges my logic and belief to be "false nonsense", it is actually him who is already judged by God, even before I set my eyes on his last post, to be the illogical one.

I figure that his opinion will remain as it is, because he still won't believe the testimonies of God being around to be heard from Today. But they need to be given so he will fully and complete be responsible for the outcome that results from unbelief in our omni-present Lord and God, Jesus Christ.

With all due respect (if any), I must reject everything you wrote because, Gods Word refutes and exposes all of it and shows it to be Demonic Doctrine.
I know for a fact that you have never spoken to the Lord, because the Lord as not spoken to any man for the past 2000 years. The only one who speaks to people is Satan, He disguises Himself as an Angel of light and deceives people like you who ignore everything that God said and embrace everything that Satan says.

Satan has deceived you to believe that you're some kind of prophet or apostle, but the awful truth is the world has had no Prophets or Apostles in the past 2000 years. Myself and many millions of other have offered our houses and everything we have if you or any other deluded person can provide a single verse of scripture or any other evidence to show that the Lord has spoken or gave any revelations to anyone in the last 2000 years.

The awful truth, that you and your kind need to understand is that all we have to understand the Lord with is the old bible and nothing else. Every generation for the past 2000 years has had the same old bible to learn about what the Lord revealed about Himself. The Lord didn't reveal much about Himself, He only revealed what He wanted us to know about Him and He hid the rest He hid from us. So it is very foolish and blasphemous to suggest that you have some extra revelation or words from the Lord.

I would be satisfied with one single verse of scripture to support this ludicrous notion that the Lord spoke to anyone in the last 2000 years, but I won't hold my breath waiting because I know it doesn't exist, and I know for a fact that it's not the Lord you speak with, but it's a Demon. If you did find a verse of scripture to support this delusion, I would abandon my theology and embrace yours.

 

[Karl Peters]

With all due respect (if any), I must reject everything you wrote because, Gods Word refutes and exposes all of it and shows it to be Demonic Doctrine.
I know for a fact that you have never spoken to the Lord, because the Lord as not spoken to any man for the past 2000 years. The only one who speaks to people is Satan, He disguises Himself as an Angel of light and deceives people like you who ignore everything that God said and embrace everything that Satan says.

Satan has deceived you to believe that you're some kind of prophet or apostle, but the awful truth is the world has had no Prophets or Apostles in the past 2000 years. Myself and many millions of other have offered our houses and everything we have if you or any other deluded person can provide a single verse of scripture or any other evidence to show that the Lord has spoken or gave any revelations to anyone in the last 2000 years.

The awful truth, that you and your kind need to understand is that all we have to understand the Lord with is the old bible and nothing else. Every generation for the past 2000 years has had the same old bible to learn about what the Lord revealed about Himself. The Lord didn't reveal much about Himself, He only revealed what He wanted us to know about Him and He hid the rest He hid from us. So it is very foolish and blasphemous to suggest that you have some extra revelation or words from the Lord.

I would be satisfied with one single verse of scripture to support this ludicrous notion that the Lord spoke to anyone in the last 2000 years, but I won't hold my breath waiting because I know it doesn't exist, and I know for a fact that it's not the Lord you speak with, but it's a Demon. If you did find a verse of scripture to support this delusion, I would abandon my theology and embrace yours.

As the creator, He gave you free will and even free will to deny Him. And that is what saying "the Lord as not spoken to any man for the past 2000 years" shows you have done. There are demons, and they want to be god over our lives. But to do that they have to convince a person that God is not around to be heard from Today. That is why God fixed "Today" as the day to hear from Him. And He gave us the Bible to verify that fact, and to show that people, even people claiming to represent Him do not represent Him and turn people to Him.

And a sad group they are; putting their hope in a god that is not around to help them. They say "Jesus' but they don't know Jesus Christ. I know Him, and because I testify to knowing Him who said He would never leave us, they think I am making myself out to be something special - like perhaps like a prophet, but I turn people to "Mighty God", who is that child that was born to us, and who is also called "Everlasting Father", but they can accept that He is Everlasting, not their Father. So, they don't talk to Him, don't listen to Him, don't seek Him and don't know Him. And how sad it is, because He is also called "Wonderful Counselor".

He told me once, "Karl, I am called Wonderful Counselor, but I am not a wonderful counselor to those who don't listen to Me."

So a person can become unreasonable, when God says to come reason with Him and though your sins are like scarlet, they will be white as snow:

So they don't want a verse, because they don't want reproof. They can say give me a verse, but the verses have been provided to them, and better yet the verse tell you that the Word of God (Jesus Christ) is standing there speaking so all they have to do is open up to Him. So they have closed their ears, least they see. They have denied all the verses, though they all point to Him in one way or another. So they will not know Him and though He made they He is not their father. Because you will not listen, you have fallen from the grace and mercy of God into the hands of the devil and so that is all they see. They cannot see and do not know that there are more with us that against us.

Oh - you want another verse to prove you are wrong, but I already provided so many that I cannot get them into a single post, but they are all in your Bible - that orderly lines that you read a little here and there, but do not believe. They have become the word of God to you, because you don't believe that He is there to be heard from. So you have gone falling backwards, have been taken captive by those demons you talk about.

I guess I should give you another verse, after all you wrote: "have offered our houses and everything we have if you or any other deluded person can provide a single verse of scripture or any other evidence to show that the Lord has spoken or gave any revelations to anyone in the last 2000 years."

AFTER the Lord ascended into heaven this happened:

Acts 9: 3-5 As he was traveling, it happened that he was approaching Damascus, and suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him; and he fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?” And he said, “Who are You, Lord?” And He said, “I am Jesus whom you are persecuting,

Your whole logic of Him not speaking with us Today, is that He went back up into heaven so can't be heard after that, but most of the New Testament is about how He does still speak to us Today even though He ascended back to His throne in heaven!! So most of the New Testament prove you completely wrong. Why don't you try and provide me a verse that says He stopped speaking to people Today? That is what's not in the Bible, and so His sheep still hear His voice Today. It is just that you are not His sheep. But still it is written in the very last book of your Bible:

Rev 3: 19-22 ‘Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent.
‘Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.
‘He who overcomes, I will grant to him to sit down with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.
‘He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’”

So He reproves you, with others because you refuse to listen to Him, and He disciplines you also. Therefore you need to be zealous for HIm and repent of your ways!! Just like the verse tells you to do!!

Because He is standing there at the door knocking so that if ANYONE (which would include you) would hear His voice and open up to Him, He will come into you and you two could get to know each other personally. But you don't overcome your pride, and those running your church do not let those with an ear hear what the Spirit says!

And so it is we I testify that He is still there at the door trying to get your attention, but you won't accept our testimony, and if that does not change hell awaits you! You are thinking that it is knowing about Jesus that is important, but that is wrong, It is quite simply about knowing Jesus. You could never ever ever know all about Jesus the Christ, but you can get to know Him personally.

So this awaits you:

Mat 7:23 “And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

And as you stand now, this prophecy applies to you:

Is 28:12,13 He who said to them, “Here is rest, give rest to the weary,”
And, “Here is repose,” but they would not listen.
So the word of the LORD to them will be,
“Order on order, order on order,
Line on line, line on line,
A little here, a little there,”
That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared and taken captive.

You have gone stumbling backwards, you are broken, snared and taken captive - because you would not listen!!
So the message to you is the message Isaiah had then:

Is 28: 14,15 Therefore, hear the word of the LORD, O scoffers,
Who rule this people who are in Jerusalem,
Because you have said, “We have made a covenant with death,
And with Sheol we have made a pact.
The overwhelming scourge will not reach us when it passes by,
For we have made falsehood our refuge and we have concealed ourselves with deception.”

But even if Isaiah was writing to you Today, you would not accept his testimony, so it all applies to you today just like it applied then. But the Lord doesn't give up easily, and the work of God is that all should come to know the Son!

Jn 6:29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent.”

You simply will not believe in Him who spoke to Saul on the road after He ascended back to the throne of God. You refuse to listen to Him who is standing there speaking, as was explained in the last book of the Bible. Indeed, you scoff at the idea that He wants to speak to you Today!!

So it was written, after He ascended back to the throne of God:

Heb 3: 7-11 Therefore, just as the Holy Spirit says,
“TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE,....

...“THEREFORE I WAS ANGRY WITH THIS GENERATION,
AND SAID, ‘THEY ALWAYS GO ASTRAY IN THEIR HEART,

AND THEY DID NOT KNOW MY WAYS’;
AS I SWORE IN MY WRATH,
‘THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST.’”


and also:

Heb 4:7 He again fixes a certain day, “Today,” saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before,
“TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE,
DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS.”

So because you say there were and are no "Todays" in the last 2000 years, there will be not tomorrow for you. You will perish, like your fathers before you, you will perish if you do not hear Him Today.

 

[Christian Soldier]

As the creator, He gave you free will and even free will to deny Him. And that is what saying "the Lord as not spoken to any man for the past 2000 years" shows you have done. There are demons, and they want to be god over our lives. But to do that they have to convince a person that God is not around to be heard from Today. That is why God fixed "Today" as the day to hear from Him. And He gave us the Bible to verify that fact, and to show that people, even people claiming to represent Him do not represent Him and turn people to Him.

And a sad group they are; putting their hope in a god that is not around to help them. They say "Jesus' but they don't know Jesus Christ. I know Him, and because I testify to knowing Him who said He would never leave us, they think I am making myself out to be something special - like perhaps like a prophet, but I turn people to "Mighty God", who is that child that was born to us, and who is also called "Everlasting Father", but they can accept that He is Everlasting, not their Father. So, they don't talk to Him, don't listen to Him, don't seek Him and don't know Him. And how sad it is, because He is also called "Wonderful Counselor".

He told me once, "Karl, I am called Wonderful Counselor, but I am not a wonderful counselor to those who don't listen to Me."

So a person can become unreasonable, when God says to come reason with Him and though your sins are like scarlet, they will be white as snow:

So they don't want a verse, because they don't want reproof. They can say give me a verse, but the verses have been provided to them, and better yet the verse tell you that the Word of God (Jesus Christ) is standing there speaking so all they have to do is open up to Him. So they have closed their ears, least they see. They have denied all the verses, though they all point to Him in one way or another. So they will not know Him and though He made they He is not their father. Because you will not listen, you have fallen from the grace and mercy of God into the hands of the devil and so that is all they see. They cannot see and do not know that there are more with us that against us.

Oh - you want another verse to prove you are wrong, but I already provided so many that I cannot get them into a single post, but they are all in your Bible - that orderly lines that you read a little here and there, but do not believe. They have become the word of God to you, because you don't believe that He is there to be heard from. So you have gone falling backwards, have been taken captive by those demons you talk about.

I guess I should give you another verse, after all you wrote: "have offered our houses and everything we have if you or any other deluded person can provide a single verse of scripture or any other evidence to show that the Lord has spoken or gave any revelations to anyone in the last 2000 years."

AFTER the Lord ascended into heaven this happened:

Acts 9: 3-5 As he was traveling, it happened that he was approaching Damascus, and suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him; and he fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?” And he said, “Who are You, Lord?” And He said, “I am Jesus whom you are persecuting,

Your whole logic of Him not speaking with us Today, is that He went back up into heaven so can't be heard after that, but most of the New Testament is about how He does still speak to us Today even though He ascended back to His throne in heaven!! So most of the New Testament prove you completely wrong. Why don't you try and provide me a verse that says He stopped speaking to people Today? That is what's not in the Bible, and so His sheep still hear His voice Today. It is just that you are not His sheep. But still it is written in the very last book of your Bible:

Rev 3: 19-22 ‘Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent.
‘Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.
‘He who overcomes, I will grant to him to sit down with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.
‘He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’”

So He reproves you, with others because you refuse to listen to Him, and He disciplines you also. Therefore you need to be zealous for HIm and repent of your ways!! Just like the verse tells you to do!!

Because He is standing there at the door knocking so that if ANYONE (which would include you) would hear His voice and open up to Him, He will come into you and you two could get to know each other personally. But you don't overcome your pride, and those running your church do not let those with an ear hear what the Spirit says!

And so it is we I testify that He is still there at the door trying to get your attention, but you won't accept our testimony, and if that does not change hell awaits you! You are thinking that it is knowing about Jesus that is important, but that is wrong, It is quite simply about knowing Jesus. You could never ever ever know all about Jesus the Christ, but you can get to know Him personally.

So this awaits you:

Mat 7:23 “And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

And as you stand now, this prophecy applies to you:

Is 28:12,13 He who said to them, “Here is rest, give rest to the weary,”
And, “Here is repose,” but they would not listen.
So the word of the LORD to them will be,
“Order on order, order on order,
Line on line, line on line,
A little here, a little there,”
That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared and taken captive.

You have gone stumbling backwards, you are broken, snared and taken captive - because you would not listen!!
So the message to you is the message Isaiah had then:

Is 28: 14,15 Therefore, hear the word of the LORD, O scoffers,
Who rule this people who are in Jerusalem,
Because you have said, “We have made a covenant with death,
And with Sheol we have made a pact.
The overwhelming scourge will not reach us when it passes by,
For we have made falsehood our refuge and we have concealed ourselves with deception.”

But even if Isaiah was writing to you Today, you would not accept his testimony, so it all applies to you today just like it applied then. But the Lord doesn't give up easily, and the work of God is that all should come to know the Son!

Jn 6:29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent.”

You simply will not believe in Him who spoke to Saul on the road after He ascended back to the throne of God. You refuse to listen to Him who is standing there speaking, as was explained in the last book of the Bible. Indeed, you scoff at the idea that He wants to speak to you Today!!

So it was written, after He ascended back to the throne of God:

Heb 3: 7-11 Therefore, just as the Holy Spirit says,
“TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE,....

...“THEREFORE I WAS ANGRY WITH THIS GENERATION,
AND SAID, ‘THEY ALWAYS GO ASTRAY IN THEIR HEART,

AND THEY DID NOT KNOW MY WAYS’;
AS I SWORE IN MY WRATH,
‘THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST.’”


and also:

Heb 4:7 He again fixes a certain day, “Today,” saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before,
“TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE,
DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS.”

So because you say there were and are no "Todays" in the last 2000 years, there will be not tomorrow for you. You will perish, like your fathers before you, you will perish if you do not hear Him Today.

You used a lot of words to expose yourself as Satan's helper. Everything your wrote is a lie, from the pits of hell and non of it can be supported by the bible. You twist every word in the bible to support your demonic doctrine. Satan is the father of lies, so it's obvious He's your father because you obey Him very faithfully.

I have asked you so many times to provide a single shred of evidence to support your demonic doctrine that Gods has spoken a single word in the past 2000 years, but in an act of desperation you keep referring to the Apostles and Prophets of the bible.
I never doubted that God spoke to some of them but He would never speak to you or your kind, He would destroy you on sight if you ever dared to come into His presence. He doesn't tolerate filthy stinking rags in his presence, they are an abomination in His sight.

Jesus warned us about people like you, He said many false prophets would come after He leaves the earth and say "look Christ is here and look Christ is there" Jesus said that those are cursed and they will be cast into the lake of fire to be tormented for all eternity.

If I heard a voice speaking to me, I would rebuke it and order it to go back to the pits of hell, but you embrace it and fornicate with it. My pastor was right, anyone who hears voices is either demon possessed, or they have overdosed on drugs or they are sick in the head, and require a psychiatrist.

God doesn't have Apostles or Prophets anymore, He stopped using them 2000 years ago. So, only a deluded fool believes they are still around. Jesus said, I go away and you see me no more. He said "it is finished" but you say He's a liar and it's not finished until you say it's finished.

You come across as Satan's best helper to me, everything you have claimed so far is a lie. You haven't said a single true word, every interpretation of scripture has been demonic doctrine consistently. I have given you verses that destroy your doctrine but you're not even able to receive correction. The fool hates correction but the wise man loves you for it.

 

[Karl Peters]

Everything your wrote is a lie

I quoted Christian Soldier Scripture after Scripture and he writes the above. It is obviously not me who is the liar, and we know that Satan is a liar - so we also know who you listen to.

You used a lot of words to expose yourself as Satan's helper

The religious people when Jesus was in the flesh on earth told Him that He was of the devil, but He corrected them pointing out that their father was the devil. And so there is nothing new under the sun. They didn't listen to Him them, and thought He was the devil, and so when I point out scriptures to you that show you are wrong and need to listen, you act like them for the same reason.

Jn 8:43-49 “Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you cannot hear My word.
“You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
“But because I speak the truth, you do not believe Me.
“Which one of you convicts Me of sin? If I speak truth, why do you not believe Me?
“He who is of God hears the words of God; for this reason you do not hear them, because you are not of God.”
The Jews answered and said to Him, “Do we not say rightly that You are a Samaritan and have a demon?”
Jesus answered, “I do not have a demon; but I honor My Father, and you dishonor Me.

And this is what is going on hear. I honor Jesus Christ, (the child who was born to us and is the Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, and the Prince of Peace) by getting people to hear from Him, but they cannot hear His word, because we have to hear by faith. So not realizing the He is of God hears the words of God, you are not of God for even by your own admission, you believe nobody has heard from Him for 2000 years. But real Christian are His sheep who do hear His voice, but you don't believe it. So you dishonor our Father, in the same way they dishonored His Father and Him. So as you judge you have been judged, just like it is written.

Now I have preach the gospel, which is that Jesus Christ is the Word of God because He has the words of His Father and He has been trying to get you to listen to Him all along (which I have explained). So your blood is on your hands, because I did what was asked of me, but I do hear the words of God. And I have made you aware of all this, using Scripture to back up all I have told you. But you will not accept our testimony, so the good news was preached to you and you rejected Him!

There is really nothing else to tell you that I have not already explained. But perhaps to let you know that your denying Him going to keep you from having peace in this life and the next. Still, He stands at the door speaking to you, so if you repent the good news of Him is still there Today, as long as Today is called Today.

 

[Christian Soldier]

I quoted Christian Soldier Scripture after Scripture and he writes the above. It is obviously not me who is the liar, and we know that Satan is a liar - so we also know who you listen to.



The religious people when Jesus was in the flesh on earth told Him that He was of the devil, but He corrected them pointing out that their father was the devil. And so there is nothing new under the sun. They didn't listen to Him them, and thought He was the devil, and so when I point out scriptures to you that show you are wrong and need to listen, you act like them for the same reason.

Jn 8:43-49 “Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you cannot hear My word.
“You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
“But because I speak the truth, you do not believe Me.
“Which one of you convicts Me of sin? If I speak truth, why do you not believe Me?
“He who is of God hears the words of God; for this reason you do not hear them, because you are not of God.”
The Jews answered and said to Him, “Do we not say rightly that You are a Samaritan and have a demon?”
Jesus answered, “I do not have a demon; but I honor My Father, and you dishonor Me.

And this is what is going on hear. I honor Jesus Christ, (the child who was born to us and is the Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, and the Prince of Peace) by getting people to hear from Him, but they cannot hear His word, because we have to hear by faith. So not realizing the He is of God hears the words of God, you are not of God for even by your own admission, you believe nobody has heard from Him for 2000 years. But real Christian are His sheep who do hear His voice, but you don't believe it. So you dishonor our Father, in the same way they dishonored His Father and Him. So as you judge you have been judged, just like it is written.

Now I have preach the gospel, which is that Jesus Christ is the Word of God because He has the words of His Father and He has been trying to get you to listen to Him all along (which I have explained). So your blood is on your hands, because I did what was asked of me, but I do hear the words of God. And I have made you aware of all this, using Scripture to back up all I have told you. But you will not accept our testimony, so the good news was preached to you and you rejected Him!

There is really nothing else to tell you that I have not already explained. But perhaps to let you know that your denying Him going to keep you from having peace in this life and the next. Still, He stands at the door speaking to you, so if you repent the good news of Him is still there Today, as long as Today is called Today.

I have read everything you wrote. And after giving it much carful consideration, I have concluded that all of it is demonic doctrine. None of what you claim can be supported by any verses of scripture.
I'm well aware, you quote scripture but so does Satan. He tried to use scripture against Jesus, and that's exactly what you've been trying to do.
But thank God, the Holy Spirit leads me into all truth and He has given me the gift of discernment, to rightly divide the Word of God.

All I have seen from you is your private opinion, of what they verses you quote are saying. But I have refuted your interpretation of them and showed you why it's false, and you have offered no biblical defense to support your false claims.

In John 8:43-49 Jesus is addressing the Pharisees, but in your usually delusion and confusion. You play Jesus and pretend to be Him, and accuse me of being a Pharisee from 2000 years ago. I live in 2024, so I have no idea how managed to play Jesus in your mind and imagine me as a Pharisee from 2000 years ago. It just boggles the mind, you sure have a strange imagination.

You have invented a new false gospel, which I've never heard before and now you're playing Jesus and clubbing me over the head with this new false gospel of yours. The sad part about your new false gospel is, you are utterly unable to defend any aspect of it. I have exposed your false gospel at every point and you have so far failed to defend a signal claim you made.

I love being corrected, by scripture. But i resent anyone trying to correct me by the doctrine of Demons. I have offered you my house, in exchange for a single shred of biblical evidence to support the outrageous false claims you made, but all you have offered me is your private opinion, which has no biblical foundation or basis in reality.

I don't doubt your dedication to your religion, it's obvious that you are a devout follower and believer in your religion, has no biblical foundation. You just made it up yourself and you push it as a legitimate Christian religion.
It would be very helpful if you could provide a single verse of scripture to support your religious beliefs.

I'm happy to back everything I claim, with Gods Word. And if you can't do the same then, I must respectfully reject everything you claim and consider it to be false doctrine.

 

[Karl Peters]

And after giving it much carful consideration, I have concluded that all of it is demonic doctrine.

This is the exact issue pointed out in the OP. When a person writes "I have concluded" - they confess they didn't hear from God, even the Word of God who is Jesus Christ! They didn't go and reason with Him, and that because of their pride they made their own conclusion. And this is too common in Christianity, where we serve the Great I Am. And in Christian Soldiers case, he has gone to the extreme of concluding that nobody has heard from God for the last 2000 years! Yet that is just his conclusion based on his pride in himself. So his pride has him concluding that God is not the Great I AM but a has been.

None of what you claim can be supported by any verses of scripture.

This is sad because it is just denying everything that comes to him that he does not like. It reminds me of when I was way back in elementary school, and there I saw kids who would just say they were right when they were clearly wrong and everyone knew it. It's childish not to reason, and was what school (even elementary school) was supposed to correct in us. We are supposed to think about things and us our reasoning, which is why God had it written:

Is 1:18 “Come now, and let us reason together,”
Says the LORD,
“Though your sins are as scarlet,
They will be as white as snow;
Though they are red like crimson,
They will be like wool.

But thank God, the Holy Spirit leads me into all truth

The Holy Spirit does lead people into all truth, but He does that by bringing us the words of God which belong to and so come from Jesus Christ. So, since you are writing that God has not talked to anyone in the last 2000 years, you are not being lead by the Holy Spirit and don't have the Truth (Jesus Christ) in you. Which is why I have been telling you over, over, over, and over again that you have to put aside your pride and your conclusions, and seek the voice of Him (Jesus Christ) who is standing at the door knocking with His voice, and that via His Holy Spirit speaking to your spirit.

Jn 6:63 “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.

And Jesus followed that up with:

Jn 6:64 “But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who it was that would betray Him.

And that is what you are doing (not believing and betraying Him) when you tell people that He does not speak to people Today and has not for the last 2000 years. You have betrayed Him and have not been lead by His Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit is the One who brings His words to us personally! Just like it is written. If you had indeed been lead by His Holy Spirit you would have heard His words coming to your spirit and would understand that He has been speaking to people always, but some refuse to listen to Him and make their own conclusions.

I'm happy to back everything I claim, with Gods Word

That would be nice, except you think the Bible is "God's Word", when the Word of God we preach is found in our mouths and in our hearts, so not the ink on pages of the Bible. The Bible are sacred writings (the Scriptures - graphe in Greek) and they tell you that Jesus is there with us (the Kingdom of God is in your midst) and wants to talk to you personally, but you don't believe the writings in the Bible, so how are you going to believe His words?

Jn 5: 46,47 “For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me.
“But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”

So you make your own conclusions, do things in His name but don't actually know Him, and deceive yourself, with the help of that snake of old whose first recorded words were, 'did God really say'! And when he (Satan) got the man and woman to doubt God was there to speak to them, he then got them to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, by telling them that they could be like God, thereby pride entered into their lives and then then hid from God. That is the state of existence that you are in now, but He went to the cross and forgave you your sins so you might turn back to Him and listen to Him by faith. Still you refuse and pretend obedience and He will hold you to what you said and it will cost you all you have unless you repent and seek Him.

I know for a fact that you have never spoken to the Lord, because the Lord as not spoken to any man for the past 2000 years.

Myself and many millions of other have offered our houses and everything we have if you or any other deluded person can provide a single verse of scripture or any other evidence to show that the Lord has spoken or gave any revelations to anyone in the last 2000 years.

Well, I and the Lord have provided you with Scripture after Scripture after Scripture, all of which say that God speaks to His sheep and we hear His voice, and on everyday called Today. So He will require of you and those like you who you call "we", everything you have just as you have written - "everything we have".

I will tell you truly, I once gave Him everything I had, and He took it by having me quit my job as a retail manager for a large drug store chain, and open up a Christain bookstore for Him. Yet in so doing that and the other things He ask of me, Him and I became friends, and He treats me like His son. So we walk and talk together and I have seen so many incredible things, and you can't even believe that He is there wanting to walk and talk to everyone Today. They just refuse to seek Him and His voice and instead that write things like: "after giving it much carful consideration, I have concluded that all of it is demonic doctrine."

So when they leave their flesh and stand before Him on that day exposed in everyway, They will tell Him something like:

'‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ but He will tell them something like: "“And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’

He doesn't lie. If they had know Him, they would be saved, but with all their bluster, they did not come to personally know Him. They said in their hearts that He was either dead or is in some far off place called heaven and can not be heard from Today. But in the Scriptures, which you are calling the Word of God as opposed to Him, it is written:

Rom 10: 6-8 But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: “DO NOT SAY IN YOUR HEART, ‘WHO WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN?’ (that is, to bring Christ down),
or ‘WHO WILL DESCEND INTO THE ABYSS?’ (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).”
But what does it say? “THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,

So the Scriptures told you about how you are, and still the good news is that ANYONE, and you are an anyone, can repent of their ways and conclusion and open up to Him and what He has to say to them, and if they overcome and do that then they will know Him and be with Him. That is the good news, and it has been presented to you over and over and over, but you are still seeking your own conclusions - why?? It is because of your pride, which that snake of old lead you to.

 

[Christian Soldier]

This is the exact issue pointed out in the OP. When a person writes "I have concluded" - they confess they didn't hear from God, even the Word of God who is Jesus Christ! They didn't go and reason with Him, and that because of their pride they made their own conclusion. And this is too common in Christianity, where we serve the Great I Am. And in Christian Soldiers case, he has gone to the extreme of concluding that nobody has heard from God for the last 2000 years! Yet that is just his conclusion based on his pride in himself. So his pride has him concluding that God is not the Great I AM but a has been.



This is sad because it is just denying everything that comes to him that he does not like. It reminds me of when I was way back in elementary school, and there I saw kids who would just say they were right when they were clearly wrong and everyone knew it. It's childish not to reason, and was what school (even elementary school) was supposed to correct in us. We are supposed to think about things and us our reasoning, which is why God had it written:

Is 1:18 “Come now, and let us reason together,”
Says the LORD,
“Though your sins are as scarlet,
They will be as white as snow;
Though they are red like crimson,
They will be like wool.





The Holy Spirit does lead people into all truth, but He does that by bringing us the words of God which belong to and so come from Jesus Christ. So, since you are writing that God has not talked to anyone in the last 2000 years, you are not being lead by the Holy Spirit and don't have the Truth (Jesus Christ) in you. Which is why I have been telling you over, over, over, and over again that you have to put aside your pride and your conclusions, and seek the voice of Him (Jesus Christ) who is standing at the door knocking with His voice, and that via His Holy Spirit speaking to your spirit.

Jn 6:63 “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.

And Jesus followed that up with:

Jn 6:64 “But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who it was that would betray Him.

And that is what you are doing (not believing and betraying Him) when you tell people that He does not speak to people Today and has not for the last 2000 years. You have betrayed Him and have not been lead by His Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit is the One who brings His words to us personally! Just like it is written. If you had indeed been lead by His Holy Spirit you would have heard His words coming to your spirit and would understand that He has been speaking to people always, but some refuse to listen to Him and make their own conclusions.



That would be nice, except you think the Bible is "God's Word", when the Word of God we preach is found in our mouths and in our hearts, so not the ink on pages of the Bible. The Bible are sacred writings (the Scriptures - graphe in Greek) and they tell you that Jesus is there with us (the Kingdom of God is in your midst) and wants to talk to you personally, but you don't believe the writings in the Bible, so how are you going to believe His words?

So when they leave their flesh and stand before Him on that day exposed in everyway, They will tell Him something like:

'‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ but He will tell them something like: "“And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’

He doesn't lie. If they had know Him, they would be saved, but with all their bluster, they did not come to personally know Him. They said in their hearts that He was either dead or is in some far off place called heaven and can not be heard from Today. But in the Scriptures, which you are calling the Word of God as opposed to Him, it is written:

Rom 10: 6-8 But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: “DO NOT SAY IN YOUR HEART, ‘WHO WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN?’ (that is, to bring Christ down),
or ‘WHO WILL DESCEND INTO THE ABYSS?’ (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).”
But what does it say? “THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,

So the Scriptures told you about how you are, and still the good news is that ANYONE, and you are an anyone, can repent of their ways and conclusion and open up to Him and what He has to say to them, and if they overcome and do that then they will know Him and be with Him. That is the good news, and it has been presented to you over and over and over, but you are still seeking your own conclusions - why?? It is because of your pride, which that snake of old lead you to.

I'm ready and willing to join your cult if, you provide a single shred of evidence to validate it. So far, the only validation you have provided is based on Demonic Doctrine. As an Elect Saint of God, I'm forbidden from committing spiritual fornication and follow Demonic teaching.

Most people have smart phones these days, so I don't know why anyone hasn't been able to record Jesus speaking to them. Let me tell you why, it's because it's a big fat Satanic lie that Jesus speaks with anyone, that's who nobody has been able to capture his voice on any device. You can collect millions of free houses if you capture His voice on your phone recorder.

You keep pushing more of the same old rhetoric which I have thoroughly debunked many times over. They say the definition of a "fool" is one who keeps making the same mistake over and over, while expecting a different result every time. You have tried to quote scriptures which say nothing about Jesus speaking to us and you try to use them as some kind of evidence.

Please show me one verse which claims that Jesus was going to speak to believers, after His ascension back to heaven. You won't find it because it doesn't exist, but what you will find is that Satan and His Angels will come to you and speak with you. That's a given, nobody doubts that, because He is the prince of this world and He is here but Jesus is not here. He has remained silent in heaven for the past 2000 years and you can't accept that because you are under strong delusion. Those Demonic voices have brainwashed you to reject the truth and embrace Demonic Doctrine.

Gods Word describes people like you in;

2 Timothy 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.

You believe in unbiblical fables, and claim I don't "reason with Him" and that "He's knocking at the door", but the truth is Jesus has never ever spoken to me once and He has never ever knocked on my door. So your accusation is false, because there is no truth in you.

According to your doctrine, I don't have to give account before God on judgement day because He has never spoken to me so I don't know what I was supposed to do. I would only be accountable for my actions, if Jesus spoke to me and told me how I should live. Then I would be without excuse, but your doctrine teaches me that I have nothing to answer for because he never spoke to me, to tell me anything.

All I have in this world is the ink on the pages of the old bible, and Demons trying to convince me that the bible is not Gods Word and the Holy Spirit enabling me to reject Demonic doctrine and believe the old bible instead. That's my reality, yours is far less complicated. You have those voices in your head and you simply follow them, I have to wrestle against those voices and rebuke them, in the name of God.

You quote Romans 10:6-8 but those verses condemn your doctrine and expose it as being Demonic.

“THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,

See how the verse concludes, by confirming that the word of faith come by preaching and not by Jesus speaking to you. So that proves that the preaching of the old ink on pages is the only Word we can ever get. It's studying and listening to your preacher speak about Jesus, that's the only way we hear what He said 2000 years ago, and you get nothing more that that. But Satan will tell you much more stuff to tickle your ears.

 

[Karl Peters]

I'm ready and willing to join your cult if, you provide a single shred of evidence to validate it. So far, the only validation you have provided is based on Demonic Doctrine.

Nobody, but nobody should ever be willing to "join a cult" - and maybe that is why a person gets into a church that does not actually match up with the Bible. The Scriptures are not God, but they were written by people you knew our Lord Jesus Christ, who is the Word and is God.

Jn 1:1,2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
He was in the beginning with God.

And the Scriptures discuss how people have known The Word of God all the way back to Adam. Some people have always talked to the Lord and some were not willing to. Adam and Eve heard from The Word of God, but did not listen to His instructions. Instead they decided to listen to the snake of old who say "Did God really say", and who told the if the eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, they could be like God - and they believed that snake instead of God. Christians are followers of Jesus Christ, The Word of God, but a cult are those who decided they want to listen to that snake who convinces them that God does not speak to them on those days called Today, and talks them into thinking that with some knowledge they can be like God - which is call Pride.

And a person into pride quickly becomes "unreasonable" - because the Truth does not appeal to them! They cannot listen to the Truth, who is The Word of God, because He would show them how they think they are smarter than God. That is to say the He will 'reprove them', but that because He loves them. Yet the prideful won't repent of their ways and so proof presented to them (and the Scriptures are good for reproof) cannot be accepted. So they deny the Truth, Jesus Christ, and anything about hearing from Him who will reprove them for their own good.

And so it is written that His sheep hear His voice, and how He leads them out with His voice - yet they say that God does not talk to anyone Today. And this is why the Lord tells His sheep to preach the Word - which means Him and He (Jesus Christ) will and wants to talk to you if you would just seek Him and listen.

Now all this is clearly recorded in the Bible, but those many, like Christian Soldier, just pretend obedience and do not hear the voice of the Lord, so they do not get to know Him. And He will tell them so.

Now it happens that I was at a thrift store yesterday that had a sale of books at 10 for a dollar. They had lots of books, and I got a very nice copy of Charles Stanley's "How to listen to God". And this radical Christian actually thinks, like all the Lord's sheep, that he can actually hear from Jesus Christ via His Holy Spirit. I guess, according to Christian Soldier, that would make Charles Stanley a cultist, but from what I read in it, Charles Stanley sounds a lot like me. On the back of the book I got for an acceptable price of 10 cents, is written by Charles Stanley:

"I believe one of the most valuable lessons we can ever learn is how to listen to God. In the midst of our complex and hectic lives, nothing is more urgent, nothing more necessary, nothing more rewarding than hearing what God has to say. His Voice waits to be heard and, having heard it, we are launched into the greatest, most exciting adventure we could ever imagine."

As for me personally, I say Amen to that, although I think Charles Stanley has actually understated the importance of listening to God. Because besides all the reason he mentions, faith comes from hearing and we are saved by faith

Rom 10:11 For the Scripture says, “WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.
Rom 10: 13 for “WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.”
Rom 10:14 How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher?
Rom 10:15 How will they preach unless they are sent? Just as it is written, “HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS!”
Rom 10: 16 However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, “LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?”
Rom 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.
Rom 10:18 But I say, surely they have never heard, have they? Indeed they have;
“THEIR VOICE HAS GONE OUT INTO ALL THE EARTH,
AND THEIR WORDS TO THE ENDS OF THE WORLD.”

So the message about hearing the Lord has gone out to the ends of the world, and they have no excuses. But still the Lord talks to people and tells them to preach Him and Him speaking to people if only they will listen, as the Word of God! I know, because that is what He asks of me, and the reason behind this thread. And He has asked me to preach it on this Christian forum, because we still find people who say they are "Christians", but unlike the Charles Stanleys, they do not know the Lord because they will not listen to our Lord Jesus Christ.

To Christian Soldier, I recommend getting "How to Listen to God" from Charles Stanley, though you might have to pay more that 10 cents like I did. It you had to pay all you have, it would be worth it for you, but then again the Bible has the same information and sometimes it can be gotten for nothing. I mean, Charles Stanley started of his book by quoting Ps 81 with the words "Hear, O My people and I will admonish you! O Israel, if you would listen to Me!

I suppose that Charles Stanley guy is also a cultist, according to Christian Soldier, but He sounds like the average Christian to me.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Nobody, but nobody should ever be willing to "join a cult" - and maybe that is why a person gets into a church that does not actually match up with the Bible. The Scriptures are not God, but they were written by people you knew our Lord Jesus Christ, who is the Word and is God.

Jn 1:1,2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
He was in the beginning with God.

And the Scriptures discuss how people have known The Word of God all the way back to Adam. Some people have always talked to the Lord and some were not willing to. Adam and Eve heard from The Word of God, but did not listen to His instructions. Instead they decided to listen to the snake of old who say "Did God really say", and who told the if the eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, they could be like God - and they believed that snake instead of God. Christians are followers of Jesus Christ, The Word of God, but a cult are those who decided they want to listen to that snake who convinces them that God does not speak to them on those days called Today, and talks them into thinking that with some knowledge they can be like God - which is call Pride.

And a person into pride quickly becomes "unreasonable" - because the Truth does not appeal to them! They cannot listen to the Truth, who is The Word of God, because He would show them how they think they are smarter than God. That is to say the He will 'reprove them', but that because He loves them. Yet the prideful won't repent of their ways and so proof presented to them (and the Scriptures are good for reproof) cannot be accepted. So they deny the Truth, Jesus Christ, and anything about hearing from Him who will reprove them for their own good.

And so it is written that His sheep hear His voice, and how He leads them out with His voice - yet they say that God does not talk to anyone Today. And this is why the Lord tells His sheep to preach the Word - which means Him and He (Jesus Christ) will and wants to talk to you if you would just seek Him and listen.

Now all this is clearly recorded in the Bible, but those many, like Christian Soldier, just pretend obedience and do not hear the voice of the Lord, so they do not get to know Him. And He will tell them so.

Now it happens that I was at a thrift store yesterday that had a sale of books at 10 for a dollar. They had lots of books, and I got a very nice copy of Charles Stanley's "How to listen to God". And this radical Christian actually thinks, like all the Lord's sheep, that he can actually hear from Jesus Christ via His Holy Spirit. I guess, according to Christian Soldier, that would make Charles Stanley a cultist, but from what I read in it, Charles Stanley sounds a lot like me. On the back of the book I got for an acceptable price of 10 cents, is written by Charles Stanley:

"I believe one of the most valuable lessons we can ever learn is how to listen to God. In the midst of our complex and hectic lives, nothing is more urgent, nothing more necessary, nothing more rewarding than hearing what God has to say. His Voice waits to be heard and, having heard it, we are launched into the greatest, most exciting adventure we could ever imagine."

As for me personally, I say Amen to that, although I think Charles Stanley has actually understated the importance of listening to God. Because besides all the reason he mentions, faith comes from hearing and we are saved by faith

Rom 10:11 For the Scripture says, “WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.
Rom 10: 13 for “WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.”
Rom 10:14 How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher?
Rom 10:15 How will they preach unless they are sent? Just as it is written, “HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS!”
Rom 10: 16 However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, “LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?”
Rom 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.
Rom 10:18 But I say, surely they have never heard, have they? Indeed they have;
“THEIR VOICE HAS GONE OUT INTO ALL THE EARTH,
AND THEIR WORDS TO THE ENDS OF THE WORLD.”

So the message about hearing the Lord has gone out to the ends of the world, and they have no excuses. But still the Lord talks to people and tells them to preach Him and Him speaking to people if only they will listen, as the Word of God! I know, because that is what He asks of me, and the reason behind this thread. And He has asked me to preach it on this Christian forum, because we still find people who say they are "Christians", but unlike the Charles Stanleys, they do not know the Lord because they will not listen to our Lord Jesus Christ.

To Christian Soldier, I recommend getting "How to Listen to God" from Charles Stanley, though you might have to pay more that 10 cents like I did. It you had to pay all you have, it would be worth it for you, but then again the Bible has the same information and sometimes it can be gotten for nothing. I mean, Charles Stanley started of his book by quoting Ps 81 with the words "Hear, O My people and I will admonish you! O Israel, if you would listen to Me!

I suppose that Charles Stanley guy is also a cultist, according to Christian Soldier, but He sounds like the average Christian to me.

You claim that Holy Scripture is not God, but the entire Bible is Gods Word from cover to cover. I know you don't believe that Jesus is "The Word of God" and that "Jesus is God", so of' course the Bible is not going to mean anything to you. You think the bible is nothing more than the thoughts of some privative goat headers.

But to me the Bible is the Word of God and the Word of God is the Lord Jesus Christ and the Lord Jesus Christ is almighty Jehovah God. Thank you for admitting that you don't believe in God, it all makes sense now.
Why did you quote John 1:1-2 when it exposes your false doctrine. It clearly says that the Word was Jesus and that Jesus is God, so you reject God because you reject the Bible.

Charles Stanley, was a heretic and child of the Devil. He is now getting what he deserves in hell fire, for deceiving so many with his demonic doctrine. Praise God he never deceived any of Gods Elect Saints, such as myself . 10 cents is way to much money to pay for Satanic Doctrine, He should have paid a $10 million law suit for leading so many to hell with him.


You further condemn yourself by quoting, Rom 10:14 How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher?

See Romans 10:14 confirms that the only way to hear God speak is through the preachers voice. I hear God speak when my Preacher preaches the 2000 year old gospel, that's the only way anyone can hear what God said thousands of years ago. But He has never said a Word since then and only the Devils Children will deny this truth.

My house and the houses of many millions of other Saints remain on offer to anyone who can show any evidence to support your outrageous claims. I won't hold my breath waiting for you to find a single shred of evidence