Hearing the Lord, and pride vs humility

[Karl Peters]

You claim that Holy Scripture is not God, but the entire Bible is Gods Word from cover to cover. I know you don't believe that Jesus is "The Word of God" and that "Jesus is God", so of' course the Bible is not going to mean anything to you. You think the bible is nothing more than the thoughts of some privative goat headers.

But to me the Bible is the Word of God and the Word of God is the Lord Jesus Christ and the Lord Jesus Christ is almighty Jehovah God. T

Of course you think the Sacred Writings are the Word of God, because you don't believe God speaks to people Today. So you don't seek God and listen to Him, least He reprove you. So He had people who do hear from Him write to reprove you.

Isaiah covered this mistake, and I already went over this with you, but you don't believe the Bible is correct!

Is 28:12,13,He who said to them, “Here is rest, give rest to the weary,”
And, “Here is repose,” but they would not listen.
So the word of the LORD to them will be,
“[fn]Order on order, order on order,
Line on line, line on line,
A little here, a little there,”
That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared and taken captive

Unlike Isaiah, many people refuse to listen - as seen above: "but they would not listen" --- that is you Christian Soldier - you will not listen for the voice of the Great I AM - making Him out to be the Great Has Been - so the orderly words written line on line, that you read a little here and there have become "the word of the LORD" to you. And God set it up that way so "That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared and taken captive". That is your current stat - you have stumbled backwards, are broken, snared and taken captive.

And Jesus covered this issue with the Jews when He was in the flesh on earth:

Jn 5:38 - 41 “You do not have His word abiding in you, for you do not believe Him whom He sent. “You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me;
and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.
“I do not receive glory from men;

So like Jesus explained to the Jews, and was recorded so people would not make that same mistake, those people who do not come to Him and listen to Him [ have His word abiding in them] wind up searching the Scriptures for eternal life. Yet it is the Scriptures who testify about Him (Jesus Christ) so are not Him but writings that testify about Him, and you have made the ink on pages your god by thinking that they are Him.

And I included Jn 5:41, because there is a reason Jesus followed His explained to the religious Jews about them searching the Scriptures instead of seeking Him, with "“I do not receive glory from men;" - and that is because He had men write the Scriptures. So His glory did not nor does not come from men, even men like Moses, Isaiah, John, or Paul. His glory comes via the Holy Spirit, who is indeed God because the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God and He (Jesus Christ) is God and the Word of God - the One who some people won't turn to but instead turn to the writings made my men instead of Him - the Great I Am.

And this is clearly you. You write that He (The Great I Am) has not spoken to people in 2000 years, and you don't have proof of that - but I can easily use the Scriptures to reprove you! Not that you will accept any valid reasoning, because you have become unreasonable. Of course I knew that, because I have told you to go speaks to the Lord and reason with Him, and pointed you to the writings of Isaiah to back up my statement telling you to reason with Him.

Is 1:18 “Come now, and let us reason together,”
Says the LORD,
“Though your sins are as scarlet,
They will be as white as snow;
Though they are red like crimson,
They will be like wool.

Yet as already pointed out through this thread, you are unwilling to seek Jesus Christ and listen to Him, whose name is called "The Word of God"

Rev 19:13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.

So you don't believe the people He had write the Sacred Writings - the Scriptures (graphe in Greek) - and if you don't believe there testimony about Jesus Christ, how then are you to believe in Jesus Christ since they wrote to tell you about Him.

Jn 5:44-47“How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and you do not seek the glory that is from the one and only God?
“Do not think that I will accuse you before the Father ; the one who accuses you is Moses, in whom you have set your hope.
“For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me.
“But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”

So the interesting but very sad part, is that you don't even believe the Scriptures so that you might believe in Jesus Christ!!!!

The Scripture are able to give a person the wisdom to find salvation which is through Jesus Christ, but being able to means that a person has to believe them to be correct! And you don't believe the Sacred Writing that people like Moses, Isaiah, John, and Paul wrote, and if you don't believe their writings how are you going to hear from Him. Even if He was to send someone else today who heard from Him and who told you personally, that He wants to talk to you personally, you will not accept their testimony either.

Still, He sends people today to tell you that He is the Word of God, the Great I Am, the Holy One of Israel, the KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Wonderful Counselor, The Prince of Peace, and we usually call Him Jesus Christ because He, the Christ, and only He is God's salvation (Jesus means God's salvation)

But you have denied Him as the Word of God and have made the writings of men (even the Sacred Writings) your god. So you have said that He does not speak Today, when Today is the very day you have to hear from Him!

Heb 4:7 He again fixes a certain day, “Today,” saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before,
“TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE,
DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS.”

So you will not be in heaven but in hell when there is no more "Today" for you to choose Him - unless you repent of your ways, and you prideful thinking, and seek Him and listen to Him. But you have HARDED YOUR HEART, against believe He will talk to you Today. So it was written:

Heb 4:3 For we who have believed enter that rest, just as He has said,
“AS I SWORE IN MY WRATH,
THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST,”
although His works were finished from the foundation of the world.

You shall not enter His rest unless you repent, believe in Him as the Great I AM and Word of God, so that you listen to Him Today!

 

[Christian Soldier]

Of course you think the Sacred Writings are the Word of God, because you don't believe God speaks to people Today. So you don't seek God and listen to Him, least He reprove you. So He had people who do hear from Him write to reprove you.

Isaiah covered this mistake, and I already went over this with you, but you don't believe the Bible is correct!

Is 28:12,13,He who said to them, “Here is rest, give rest to the weary,”
And, “Here is repose,” but they would not listen.
So the word of the LORD to them will be,
“[fn]Order on order, order on order,
Line on line, line on line,
A little here, a little there,”
That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared and taken captive

Unlike Isaiah, many people refuse to listen - as seen above: "but they would not listen" --- that is you Christian Soldier - you will not listen for the voice of the Great I AM - making Him out to be the Great Has Been - so the orderly words written line on line, that you read a little here and there have become "the word of the LORD" to you. And God set it up that way so "That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared and taken captive". That is your current stat - you have stumbled backwards, are broken, snared and taken captive.

And Jesus covered this issue with the Jews when He was in the flesh on earth:

Jn 5:38 - 41 “You do not have His word abiding in you, for you do not believe Him whom He sent. “You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me;
and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.
“I do not receive glory from men;

So like Jesus explained to the Jews, and was recorded so people would not make that same mistake, those people who do not come to Him and listen to Him [ have His word abiding in them] wind up searching the Scriptures for eternal life. Yet it is the Scriptures who testify about Him (Jesus Christ) so are not Him but writings that testify about Him, and you have made the ink on pages your god by thinking that they are Him.

And I included Jn 5:41, because there is a reason Jesus followed His explained to the religious Jews about them searching the Scriptures instead of seeking Him, with "“I do not receive glory from men;" - and that is because He had men write the Scriptures. So His glory did not nor does not come from men, even men like Moses, Isaiah, John, or Paul. His glory comes via the Holy Spirit, who is indeed God because the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God and He (Jesus Christ) is God and the Word of God - the One who some people won't turn to but instead turn to the writings made my men instead of Him - the Great I Am.

And this is clearly you. You write that He (The Great I Am) has not spoken to people in 2000 years, and you don't have proof of that - but I can easily use the Scriptures to reprove you! Not that you will accept any valid reasoning, because you have become unreasonable. Of course I knew that, because I have told you to go speaks to the Lord and reason with Him, and pointed you to the writings of Isaiah to back up my statement telling you to reason with Him.

Is 1:18 “Come now, and let us reason together,”
Says the LORD,
“Though your sins are as scarlet,
They will be as white as snow;
Though they are red like crimson,
They will be like wool.

Yet as already pointed out through this thread, you are unwilling to seek Jesus Christ and listen to Him, whose name is called "The Word of God"

Rev 19:13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.

So you don't believe the people He had write the Sacred Writings - the Scriptures (graphe in Greek) - and if you don't believe there testimony about Jesus Christ, how then are you to believe in Jesus Christ since they wrote to tell you about Him.

Jn 5:44-47“How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and you do not seek the glory that is from the one and only God?
“Do not think that I will accuse you before the Father ; the one who accuses you is Moses, in whom you have set your hope.
“For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me.
“But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”

So the interesting but very sad part, is that you don't even believe the Scriptures so that you might believe in Jesus Christ!!!!

The Scripture are able to give a person the wisdom to find salvation which is through Jesus Christ, but being able to means that a person has to believe them to be correct! And you don't believe the Sacred Writing that people like Moses, Isaiah, John, and Paul wrote, and if you don't believe their writings how are you going to hear from Him. Even if He was to send someone else today who heard from Him and who told you personally, that He wants to talk to you personally, you will not accept their testimony either.

Still, He sends people today to tell you that He is the Word of God, the Great I Am, the Holy One of Israel, the KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Wonderful Counselor, The Prince of Peace, and we usually call Him Jesus Christ because He, the Christ, and only He is God's salvation (Jesus means God's salvation)

But you have denied Him as the Word of God and have made the writings of men (even the Sacred Writings) your god. So you have said that He does not speak Today, when Today is the very day you have to hear from Him!

Heb 4:7 He again fixes a certain day, “Today,” saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before,
“TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE,
DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS.”

So you will not be in heaven but in hell when there is no more "Today" for you to choose Him - unless you repent of your ways, and you prideful thinking, and seek Him and listen to Him. But you have HARDED YOUR HEART, against believe He will talk to you Today. So it was written:

Heb 4:3 For we who have believed enter that rest, just as He has said,
“AS I SWORE IN MY WRATH,
THEY SHALL NOT ENTER MY REST,”
although His works were finished from the foundation of the world.

You shall not enter His rest unless you repent, believe in Him as the Great I AM and Word of God, so that you listen to Him Today!

You can't accuse me of not seeking to hear God, my ears work perfectly well and I hear everything so the truth is God has never spoken to me. I would hear Him if He ever did speak to me, so your problem is not with me, but it's with God. He is the only who has never spoken to me once in my life, so don't tell me my ears don't work.

I don't want God to speak to me, I would tell Him to go away and leave me alone because I already have more than I can handle. I've been studying the bible for the past 12 years and I haven't even scratched the surface, I would need at least another 100 years to unpack everything contained in the Bible.

Why on earth would I want to hear from God, when I can't even deal with what He has already revealed thousands of years ago. It would be very foolish of me to seek new revelation, before I even understand what God already revealed. You can't understand this problem because you have obviously come under Gods wrath, and He has sent you strong delusion so you can't reason anymore.

John 5:38 is a parable and it's not to be taken literally, how can I make His Word abide in me and how can I come to Him when He's nowhere to be found, can I fly to heaven?????. Come on man, be reasonable if you can and accept the facts as they are. I know you wish He was still on the earth and that He would talk to you, but the sad facts are, he's in heaven and He hasn't spoken to anyone for the past 2000 years.

If Jesus was still around I would be the first to chase Him down and follow Him. And if He ever spoke to anyone, it would make international news headlines. It would prove to everyone that God exists and it would instantly change the world, but the sad fact is, there is no evidence for His existence so the world remains in darkness with no proof of His existence.

All we have is the writings made by men thousands of years ago, and zero other evidence for the existence of God. I know there are some poor devils who hear voices in their heads and claim they heard from God, but the sad truth is as my Pastor said they are usually mentally sick or they're abusing narcotics or they have a demon. There are no other possibilities. So my house remains available for free to anyone who can show otherwise.

Where is Isaiah, he said "come now, let us reason together", I'm willing to reason together but Jesus is nowhere to be found. I've been around the world, and I've never heard anyone claim that Jesus has returned, "except for a few mentally ill people".

It's very obvious you believe in a different god, you can talk to your god like he was some kind of buddy. But the God would destroy me if I came into His presence, He doesn't tolerate anything unclean in His presence, He destroys them immediately so I fear Him greatly, but you can hang out with your god and you have no fear of him.

I can't choose God, nor can I repent, because I serve my lust and you can't serve two masters at the same time. I have no power to overcome lust, it's impossible because it's too powerful. I can repent, because I love sin too much to repent, you only repent of something if you hate it. But I'm like everyone else who has ever been born, we all love sin to much to repent of it.

 

[Karl Peters]

We don't preach the emotions of God. We preach the Word of God, but that does not mean the Him who speaks to us does not have feelings. And it certainly doesn't mean Jesus Christ doesn't care. Indeed Jesus, who is the Word who took on flesh and who is God (Jn 1:1), is love because God is love.

1 Jn 4:8 The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love.

To talk back and forth with Him results in not only getting to know Him, but also getting to know how much He truly loves and cares for people. You pick that up, from knowing Him. And that because you tend to pick up the emotions He has when you talk to Him.

Now love coms across in different ways and different emotions. A father who loves his son will reprove and even disciple his son, because he loves them. And The Lord is no different:

Rev 3:19 ‘Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent.
Prov 13:24 He who withholds his rod hates his son, But he who loves him disciplines him diligently.

That does not mean you beat on your son, but it does mean you correct them, and correct them again if need, and if it is still needed then perhaps a rod might need to be used

Prov 23:13 Do not hold back discipline from the child, Although you strike him with the rod, he will not die.

I have felt His anger when His people intentionally do something wrong. His anger was because He cared for them.

I have also heard Him weep when disaster came upon His people because they didn't believe. And I have also felt His joy when some one does return to Him.

Luke 15:20 “And he arose and came to his father. But when he was still a great way off, his father saw him and had compassion, and ran and fell on his neck and kissed him.

You tend to find out that He has a full range of emotions for us. Yet to find them out you have to accept His discipline and reproof, and even be zealous for Him and repent. You won't do that if you have pride, and are always thinking that you are right. And that shows up in a persons denying that He is there standing at the door and knocking with His voice.

And the common excuse is that God is not near them to be heard from! They says that He has never talked to them, but in so doing they deny that God is spirit. The Pharisees did that and so Jesus told them:

Jn 5:37-40 “And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form.
“You do not have His word abiding in you, for you do not believe Him whom He sent.
“You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me;
and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.

Did the Jews have physical ears? Of course they did, but they could not hear the sound of the wind (the Holy Spirit) because they did not come to Jesus Christ and believe in Him.

So it is we read:

You can't accuse me of not seeking to hear God, my ears work perfectly well and I hear everything so the truth is God has never spoken to me. I would hear Him if He ever did speak to me, so your problem is not with me, but it's with God. He is the only who has never spoken to me once in my life, so don't tell me my ears don't work.

I don't want God to speak to me, I would tell Him to go away and leave me alone because I already have more than I can handle. I've been studying the bible for the past 12 years and I haven't even scratched the surface, I would need at least another 100 years to unpack everything contained in the Bible.

Yeah - the Pharisees physical ears worked "perfectly well", but they did not hear the words of God which come from the Holy Spirit!

And why, because they " don't want God to speak"! Indeed they "tell Him to go away and leave me alone". In fact when He did show up in the flesh, they crucified Him! And the sad part of all this is that they prefer to lean on their own understanding sooooo much that they had become stressed out trying to follow the laws on their own. Trying to do that is stressful but listening to God brings peace.

Is 28:12,13 He who said to them, “Here is rest, give rest to the weary,”
And, “Here is repose,” but they would not listen.
So the word of the LORD to them will be,
“Order on order, order on order,
Line on line, line on line,
A little here, a little there,”
That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared and taken captive.

When I tell them to seek Him and listen to Him, I know they will find peace and not stress. But they will not listen, so the Scriptures - those orderly line on lines of text the read a little here and there become the word of God to them - yet they just leads the to stumble backwards and be broken, snared and taken captive by those religious spirits!

If He loves them, should He not tell them this. But they won't listen to Him, so then because He loves them He asks someone else to tell them to seek Him and listen to Him. But if they will not listen to God why would they listen to me, even those He tells me to write them???

The Lord did not let me write back for a bit, and had me do other things. But Today, He wants to write back, but not before He talked to me about the above things, and the love and care He has for the lost - even those Pharisees who go after the law instead of Him. Honestly, He seemed on the verge of tears when He spoke to me about this. He a person does not seek Him and His voice, and turns away from believing in Him, then disaster awaits them, and a fall I wish on nobody. It will happen because while the Father loves the world so much that He gave us His only begotten So to talk to, and that anyone who believes in Him will not perish, some will not believe and will perish. The Father's plan is such!

So it was that the Lord, my Lord Jesus Christ, was on the verge of tears when He asked me to write again. My friends, the Lord Jesus Christ is near you Today to be sought and heard from! God is spirit, so His words are spirit and from the Holy Spirit and are not sound waves to be picked up in your physical ears! You find them in your heart and sometimes in your mouth too. So seek Him, Jesus Christ, and His words found in you!!