Satan Demons Angels and Spiritual Warfare

[Fred J]

As an Elect Saint of God, it is my duty to seek the truth in all matters and to proclaim it to the whole world. I was hoping you could sharpen my sword, but all you have offered so far is your private opinions and not a single one is supported by Gods Word.

Ha, ha, ha..., there are true witnesses who are able to discern our replies back and forth. Who is consistent with slight mistake due to your theology changes from reply to reply. And who is inconsistent all the way, where even 'face2face have a field day with you as well.

The tragic part is, you reject correction and sound doctrine. That leads me to believe that you have come under strong delusion, because a fool hates you for correcting him but a wise man loves you for it.

Don't flatter yourself, you had points out of context but we refute in context and that you're shortsighted. On the other hand, you're strongly deluded being haughty and also wise in your own conceit.

You again demonstrate you ignorance by trying to make Roams 8:13 say that born again believers live a sinless life. That is a lie from the pits of hell and you know it. Show me one single believer who has ever managed to live without sinning every single day. I will give you my hose if you find such an one.

i don't even want your pant either, for you may need it to cover your nakedness. People like you even accuse Jesus of having a demon in Him, or He casts out demons by the power of the chief demons.

Galatians 5:
16. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
24. And they that are Christ's 'have crucified' (have put to death) the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

Apparently, you who brag and live in sin, claiming we'll all be sinners until we die, belong to the devil. (1John3:8)

Probably once you vomited your old self in the flesh and was washed clean to begin a new life in Christ. But along the way now and then you get entangled in the deeds of the flesh, hence confess over and over again until you die. This comes in line with the parables that read, 'A dog who goes back to lick it's vomit' Or, 'A swine bathed clean goes back to roll over the mud once again'.

Paul said "if you do mortify the deeds of the flesh". He never said if you "have mortified the deeds of the flesh" I have to give you another lesson on simple English words. "Do" means you're doing something, "Have" means you've done something, you mix everything up so much that it becomes nonsense.

'Blind guide', that's not the context!

In other words, if you do not mortify the deeds of your flesh but live after the flesh, ye shall surely die.

Why would Paul admit that he is dominated by his sin nature if he already mortified the flesh, you just don't make any sense at all.

Again 'blind guide', Romans ch. 7, is his struggle in the flesh and under the Law of sin and death. And Romans ch. 8, is the context, himself among others who received their salvation and redemption. And henceforth no longer in the bondage to things of the flesh once again and die a second death..

But rather alone in the given new life, now live to the things of the Spirit and life eternal.

 

[Taken]

You have no support and you know it but you persist with the fanciful notions. I've come to the realization the motivation to hold such false views is a way of blaming and pushing the responsibility away from yourself.

In reality you are no different to Adam blaming Eve blaming the serpent etc.

You have allowed mythological heresies to infect your mind.

F2F

My support, comprehension, trust and confidence is extorted via being a partaker of spiritual benefit and beyond the carnal mindedness point of view from which you attempt to argue.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

I'm talking about the type of sin, Paul described when He said "that which I would do, that I do not but that which I would not do, that I do". Paul was describing his wrestling against temptation and admitting that he does that which he doesn't want to do.

In my daily life, I commit sins like having that second look at a scantly dressed woman on the road, while I'm waiting at traffic lights in my car. I didn't set out to find her, but I found myself having that second look and had to repent immediately and look away. I already committed the sin of looking at the woman in the wrong way, it was unintentional but none the less is it sin.

I think that's what Paul meant by wrestling, I let my guard down and found that I had reverted back to my old nature.

Your example is incomplete……
You look at a scantly dressed woman…
AND…see…beauty flaunted? A slut taunting?
You didn’t say.
AND…imagine…sex with her?
OR…..imagine…your partner’s looks could be as alluring to your eyes?

And in any way, shape, or form, did such an incident cause to you Reject Believing in the Lord God?

 

[Fred J]

Dear genuine born again readers,

First of all, GOD the FATHER hates sin, and there is no shadow of darkness in HIM.

Jesus who died for our sins and called us reminding, "Your sins are forgiven, sin no more." And, 'Be ye perfect as your FATHER in Heaven is perfect."

Philippians 2:
12. Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Therefore to all they've testified in discipleship and are absent today. We've been given the room or space in our lifetime, to workout our salvation in fear and trembling to sin no more.

1 John 1: 9, is a given opportunity by GOD the FATHER, to confess one's sin and further sin no more. And Hebrews 4: 15&16, is another given opportunity by Christ, to boldly seek help in weakness and furthermore sin no more.

Failing to sin no more and dead do us apart, and on that day we meet Christ, Matthew 7: 22 is the verdict. Please do not fall in the fallacies of the 'blind guides' saying, 'On the day of rapture, we will all be changed from imperfect in sin to the perfection of sinless.'

It is not like we put in the microwave cold food and later it comes out hot story.

 

[Taken]

All good....you have your mind made up so it truth isn't important to you. It's the same as those conversations I had with ReChoired who failed to respond to 70% of the replies. If you don't have the support of Scripture how can you respond?

In the end your silence condemns you.

F2F

God is JUST…
ManKIND has freewill.
Man will ultimately Spiritually be BOUND IN Gods Salvation or in Destruction.
Celestial spirits will ultimately Spiritually be BOUND IN Gods holiness or chains, (separated from holy angels, sanctified men and God Himself.)
Men can and will die.
Spirits can not die.
Chains are parallel to the understanding of a Spirits inability to freely move about..when and why.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[PGS11]

You have to look at what we were told happened at the beginning - God had decide humans would obtain eternal life.A large group of Angels were against allowing humans into heaven they were cast from heaven to the earth.Their victory was the fall of mankind barring all humans from heaven for any sin. Jesus came to restore humanity back to heaven by the sacrifice he made so our sins will be forgiven he is the only way to heaven if he does not raise you up your not going.I agree there is a huge spiritual war going on for souls that we are unaware of the Fallen Angels have not given up on their goal to keep humanity from heaven and will take any soul they can.

 

[PGS11]

There were also other Angels who revolted against God you can read about them in the Books of Enoch they have been chained up until the end and their fate is the lake of fire.They were called the Watchers but they choose to interact with humanity taking women as their wifes. They had children the race of Giants.The Angels know their fate but they ask Enoch to go to God to ask for eternal life for their children which God refuses to do.He sends the flood to destroy the race of Giants but some escape.There are Giants in the bible.In Exodus the first time they come to the promised land they look in and are scared because of the fierce looking warriors the bible doesn't say it but they saw Giants.One of the first battles is against the King Of Og who is described in the bible as a Giant don't believe me go read it.Goliath was a Giant.It also explains why God wanted the Holy land completely cleansed he wanted the Giants gone and all who followed them.

The Watches also taught humanity many things from armor and weapons to witchcraft.If you are interested and want to read about it you can read the books here https://ia601001.us.archive.org/19/...ch, Standard English Version - Jay Winter.pdf

 

[lforrest]

There were also other Angels who revolted against God you can read about them in the Books of Enoch they have been chained up until the end and their fate is the lake of fire.They were called the Watchers but they choose to interact with humanity taking women as their wifes. They had children the race of Giants.The Angels know their fate but they ask Enoch to go to God to ask for eternal life for their children which God refuses to do.He sends the flood to destroy the race of Giants but some escape.There are Giants in the bible.In Exodus the first time they come to the promised land they look in and are scared because of the fierce looking warriors the bible doesn't say it but they saw Giants.One of the first battles is against the King Of Og who is described in the bible as a Giant don't believe me go read it.Goliath was a Giant.It also explains why God wanted the Holy land completely cleansed he wanted the Giants gone and all who followed them.

The Watches also taught humanity many things from armor and weapons to witchcraft.If you are interested and want to read about it you can read the books here https://ia601001.us.archive.org/19/...ch, Standard English Version - Jay Winter.pdf

Yes, and I see no proof that Satan was among the angels who took a human wife. So if being bound in chains was punishment for that, he may not have been one of those angels who did this sin. His sin was rebellion in heaven and it was not time for him to be bound. That time is with the second coming.

The bible says "8 Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour."

 

[PGS11]

I was not referring to Satan in that group and either does Enoch which is my source.You can't knock Enoch's character he is one of the very few who were taken personally by God to heaven.He was the thirteenth son of Cain as the bible tells us.I would guess to say the giants became demons they were not granted eternal life.The angels in Enoch are named because each one taught a certain skill to humanity.
I would put Satan in the first Group because there is a bit of a back story on him - he was the Morning Star he was the leader of the first revolt who were cast down to earth.
When Jesus does his sermon on the gates of hell he was standing in a spot known as the gates of hell it was thought that that was the spot the fallen angels came to earth Jesus knew this when he made the sermon.I just wanted to add you can go there today there is some kind of cave there I believe its at the base of a mountain.

I would say the biggest spiritual war in heaven was the moment Jesus gave up his soul and we could see none of it.

 

[PGS11]

I also agree with the church fathers it should not be part of the bible the bible is about Jesus not Enoch and Angels.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Ha, ha, ha..., there are true witnesses who are able to discern our replies back and forth. Who is consistent with slight mistake due to your theology changes from reply to reply. And who is inconsistent all the way, where even 'face2face have a field day with you as well.

Don't flatter yourself, you had points out of context but we refute in context and that you're shortsighted. On the other hand, you're strongly deluded being haughty and also wise in your own conceit.

i don't even want your pant either, for you may need it to cover your nakedness. People like you even accuse Jesus of having a demon in Him, or He casts out demons by the power of the chief demons.

Galatians 5:
16. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
24. And they that are Christ's 'have crucified' (have put to death) the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

Apparently, you who brag and live in sin, claiming we'll all be sinners until we die, belong to the devil. (1John3:8)

Probably once you vomited your old self in the flesh and was washed clean to begin a new life in Christ. But along the way now and then you get entangled in the deeds of the flesh, hence confess over and over again until you die. This comes in line with the parables that read, 'A dog who goes back to lick it's vomit' Or, 'A swine bathed clean goes back to roll over the mud once again'.

'Blind guide', that's not the context!

In other words, if you do not mortify the deeds of your flesh but live after the flesh, ye shall surely die.

Again 'blind guide', Romans ch. 7, is his struggle in the flesh and under the Law of sin and death. And Romans ch. 8, is the context, himself among others who received their salvation and redemption. And henceforth no longer in the bondage to things of the flesh once again and die a second death..

But rather alone in the given new life, now live to the things of the Spirit and life eternal.

You quoted Galatian 5:16, 24&25 but my verse below destroys yours. Paul destroys Galatians 5 he admits that he can't stop practicing evil, he admits that he doesn't want to do it but he has no power to stop it, just as you and me and every other human on the planet has no power to stop practicing evil.

Romans 7:19-25 For the good that I want to do, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. But if I am doing the very thing I do not want to do, I am no longer the one doing it [that is, it is not me that acts], but the sin [nature] which lives in me.

I can't believe how willfully ignorant people like yourself , can claim to be believers while blatantly denying and rejecting Gods word and accusing Him of being a liar. You cherry pick the bible and take verses out of their intended context, then twist their meaning and make them say something entirely different. You have done this with every single scripture that you have ever quoted. You can't understand their true meaning because Jesus said "there is no truth in you".

You tried to twist the meaning of 1 John 3:8 just as you do with every other verse, but I'm here to expose your doctrine of Demons by reminding you that your interpretation of the verse is as ridiculous as can be. According to your interpretation, everyone is going to be cast into the lake of fire, because we are all the children of the Devil. Well I'm here to remind you that I am an Elect saint of God, so I am His child and not the Devils so your interpretation is blasphemous.

My verse destroys yours again, Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

You tried to use 1 John 3:8 but Roams 3 destroys your interpretation and shows that we have all sinned but we were redeemed so we can't be the devils children as you falsely claim. Man you've never got a single verse right yet, I would strongly suggest you join a beginners bible class.

 

[face2face]

That's quite hypocritical of you, since every single person in the world only knows those things that have been handed down to them from previous generations and our teachers.
No person has ever discovered something new for themselves, because even those who supposedly discovered things like the theory of gravity, were educated by others who led them to discover these things.

You're pumped up with foolish pride, claiming to be some great one but you are nothing but a common garden variety punter who is testing the water like everyone else, you have never discovered anything g of any value. All you have is your private opinions which can't be supported by the bible so they are completely useless.

Deut 29:29

 

[face2face]

This thread makes me laugh - you have those believing this make believe evil creature is chained all the while its roaming around consuming at will. Fallen Angel theology has no support in the Bible at all and it humorous watching the posts go back and forth like ping pong the popcorn is good!

Without the keys to unlock the Scripture you have nothing!

F2F

 

[Christian Soldier]

Your example is incomplete……
You look at a scantly dressed woman…
AND…see…beauty flaunted? A slut taunting?
You didn’t say.
AND…imagine…sex with her?
OR…..imagine…your partner’s looks could be as alluring to your eyes?

And in any way, shape, or form, did such an incident cause to you Reject Believing in the Lord God?

There are different categories of sin, we commit some sins without even realizing that we did. But God sees all of them, so we also need to repent and pray for forgiveness for all of our sins, including those that we committed unawares.

I didn't commit the sin of adultery by looking at that woman at the traffic lights, because I was actually disgusted by her appearance yet attracted to her at the same time. So I was wrestling temptation in the sense that I had to exercise discipline over my eyes and order them to look away.

I have committed the same sin while my wife was seated next to me in the car, I had a sneaky glance at a woman while driving and my wife caught me out, and she was very angry at me. I did apologize, but she told me to tell the Pastor about this and see what he has to say about it.

I tried to explain this problem to my wife, by likening it to looking at a train wreck, while driving past it. I tried to convince her that I didn't look at that woman with lust but she didn't believe me. I didn't mention the incidents to the Pastor, because I already know what he believes about besetting sin. He has preached a few sermons on the topic.
I don't pretend to have attained sinless perfection yet, I will receive my glorified, sinless body in the life to come.

No sin will ever cause me to lose my faith in the Lord, He is faithful to forgive all my sins.

 

[Taken]

….my wife caught me out, and she was very angry at me. I did apologize,

I disagree with you.

I agree, we wrestle … Our eyes can not unsee what is flaunted, flashed before us…and it is “everywhere”!

* Your looking did not arouse imaginations in your mind to be with another woman…
* You apologized to your wife…BECAUSE it was HER feelings were negatively affected..
* That incident did not affect your relationship between YOU and the Lord God.
* That incident momentarily affected your relationship between you and your wife.
* A negative relationship between A man and God….IS a Sin.
* A negative relationship between A man and another human … IS a Trespass.
* ONLY Gods forgives Sin.
* God AND Humans forgive Trespasses between Humans.
* God does not require Humans to ask HIM for forgiveness of Trespasses humans commit.
* God automatically forgives Trespasses, WHEN Humans forgive Trespasses Humans have committed.
* Your wife raised her negative feelings.
* You apologized and assured her, restoring her trust in your commitment to her alone.

When a man calls on the Lord, confesses his true heartful belief…regrets having not believed….commits and gives his own bodily life unto death for the Lord God….
* He forgives ALL Sin of that man.
* He saves that mans soul.
* He gives that man a new heart with Gods seed, to rebirth that mans spirit.
* He … the Spirit of Truth, enters and dwells IN that man.
* That man can SIN no more.
* No more does the Lord God forgive that man of SIN, which … that man can no longer commit.
* It is the POWER (Spirit) of God in you, that KEEPS you unable to ever again commit SIN.
* The Spirit of Truth in you…is Jesus
* The Seed of God in you…..is Christ.
* The Power of God in you…is Christ.
None are greater, more powerful than He that is “IN” you…
* IF in any way shape or form you can commit SIN….either the Power of God is not IN you…or the Power of God IN you has failed you…

You continue to trespass against other humans? Sure…because you know NOT ALL THINGS…Some trespass with intent to trespass…Some trespass by accident….and Some are sorry, and remedy….Some are not, and ignore a remedy.

Sin and Trespasses are not the same things.

1 John 1:
[9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1 John 3:
[9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Mark 2:
[7] Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?

Matt 6:
[14] For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
[15] But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Christian Soldier]

I disagree with you.

I agree, we wrestle … Our eyes can not unsee what is flaunted, flashed before us…and it is “everywhere”!

* Your looking did not arouse imaginations in your mind to be with another woman…
* You apologized to your wife…BECAUSE it was HER feelings were negatively affected..
* That incident did not affect your relationship between YOU and the Lord God.
* That incident momentarily affected your relationship between you and your wife.
* A negative relationship between A man and God….IS a Sin.
* A negative relationship between A man and another human … IS a Trespass.
* ONLY Gods forgives Sin.
* God AND Humans forgive Trespasses between Humans.
* God does not require Humans to ask HIM for forgiveness of Trespasses humans commit.
* God automatically forgives Trespasses, WHEN Humans forgive Trespasses Humans have committed.
* Your wife raised her negative feelings.
* You apologized and assured her, restoring her trust in your commitment to her alone.

When a man calls on the Lord, confesses his true heartful belief…regrets having not believed….commits and gives his own bodily life unto death for the Lord God….
* He forgives ALL Sin of that man.
* He saves that mans soul.
* He gives that man a new heart with Gods seed, to rebirth that mans spirit.
* He … the Spirit of Truth, enters and dwells IN that man.
* That man can SIN no more.
* No more does the Lord God forgive that man of SIN, which … that man can no longer commit.
* It is the POWER (Spirit) of God in you, that KEEPS you unable to ever again commit SIN.
* The Spirit of Truth in you…is Jesus
* The Seed of God in you…..is Christ.
* The Power of God in you…is Christ.
None are greater, more powerful than He that is “IN” you…
* IF in any way shape or form you can commit SIN….either the Power of God is not IN you…or the Power of God IN you has failed you…

You continue to trespass against other humans? Sure…because you know NOT ALL THINGS…Some trespass with intent to trespass…Some trespass by accident….and Some are sorry, and remedy….Some are not, and ignore a remedy.

Sin and Trespasses are not the same things.

1 John 1:
[9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1 John 3:
[9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Mark 2:
[7] Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?

Matt 6:
[14] For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
[15] But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Glory to God,
Taken

Whilst my looking at that woman didn't arouse my imagination to be with her, but it did remind me that my old sin nature still cries out to have it's lusts satisfied. The problem with lust in general is that it can never be satisfied.

Getting back to the point i was originally trying to make, that a born again Christian who is indwelt by the Holy Spirit is not immune to sin. Yes the Holy Spirit guides us into all truth so we learn that God hates sin, and as we wrestle against temptation because we don't want to offend God and we try to obey Him and please Him.

My reason for wrestling against temptation is not because I'm a good person, but it's because I want to please God and obey Him. The problem is, we never attain sinless perfection while we are in this corrupt body of death. That only comes in the next life, when we receive our glorified bodies, so we will continue to wrestle and be overcome to some extent everyday for the rest of our lives.

We know Gods people have committed murder, adultery etc. but God grants them repentance and they are always restored after they commit sin. So repentance is a gift which God grants to His Children only, the unbelievers never find it within themselves to repent, because they still retain their sin nature so they only love sin, and they can never be forgiven.

Only a born again believer, will call upon the Lord and confess his sins and receive forgiveness. Unbelievers never call upon the Lord because God said "there are none who seek after the Lord, all have gone astray and there are none who do good, no not one". So we see that only Gods people can call upon the Lord, to seek forgiveness, the rest remain slaves to sin forever ands they are never forgiven.

I don't agree with you that those indwelt by the Holy Spirt overcome temptation in this life, I think those verses which say we no longer sin, mean that we are not enslaved to sin as the unbelievers are and sin has no power over us because Christ has paid the penalty for all of our past, present and future sins. So when we sin, God grants us repentance and we confess it and we move on, this is a constant thin g we do for the rest of our lives because we will sin every day for the rest of our lives.

Romans 7:15-20​

15 For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. 16 If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good.​

17 But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find.​

19 For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. 20 Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.​

Paul makes it clear, in those verses that we still sin and temptation does overcome us regularly. But thank the Lord that He grants us repentance and He is faithful to forgive all of our sins, so sin has no power to condemn us.

I haven't found any scriptures which would confirm that a born again believer ever attains sinless perfection in this life, so we will be overcome by the temptation to trespass and sin against God, until the day we die.

 

[PGS11]

You demolish the sacrifice Jesus made with your words it becomes meaningless with out the fall of mankind with all his pretend angels.What you said completely destroys the faith.There is no faith without it all of Christianity would be false if what you say is true.You can't be a believer its too much for you.Laugh away its your choice to do so.

A mistake I did make is I confus ed the two Enoch's in the bible which people do and it does not say Enoch went to heaven it says God took him and he walked the earth no more.People argue over whether Elijah and Enoch are in heaven know one knows for sure.

If you are a believer and think the fall of mankind did not happen I would like you to explain Jesus sacrifice it should be interesting.

As for the giants you are not required to believe it really has no play on Jesus they were just a bunch of runaway Angels who did evil on the earth that God punished.( the Watchers were sent to watch over mankind but thats not what they did.)You can believe whether they had children or not there is evidence that they did.That why its not in the bible doesn't add anything to it people need to know.Its why it was omitted

 

[PGS11]

This is a tread on Angels and Demon so I will add another group of Angels I am not sure were I stand on these guys but it is believed maybe by someone you know or yourself .That is Guardian Angels.I will admit there were moments in my life where I felt like I was stopped at what I was about to do.The only way I can describe it is a moment of clarity came upon me changing my course I guess I was listening.Whether that was the holy spirit or a guardian angel I do not know.

 

[Fred J]

You quoted Galatian 5:16, 24&25 but my verse below destroys yours. Paul destroys Galatians 5 he admits that he can't stop practicing evil, he admits that he doesn't want to do it but he has no power to stop it, just as you and me and every other human on the planet has no power to stop practicing evil.

Again, haughty and wise in your own conceit, brother Paul destroys not his own given testimony for Christ. But to the context of his, you're unable to comprehend and you shortsightedly put your spin on his and fall short.

Next, besides you have no power to stop sinning, include not us born again of water and the Holy Ghost in the Kingdom of GOD. Where we only by faith to the every word of GOD, and being a doer and abider, able to manifest the power to stop practicing evil.

Ephesians 6:
10. Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of His might.
11. Put on the whole armour of GOD, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Shortsightedly as blind guides on the other hand, you yourself admitted, you're like every other human on the planet having no power. Apparently, the Holy Ghost they know not nor able to receive Him, hence you're in the same mind set of those in the flesh.

2 Peter 3:
16. As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

To recognize you by your fruit, as to the above scripture, that's what you're committing to your own destruction.

Romans 7:19-25 For the good that I want to do, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. But if I am doing the very thing I do not want to do, I am no longer the one doing it [that is, it is not me that acts], but the sin [nature] which lives in me.

Again, he did not stop there, but continued in Romans ch. 8

Romans 8:
1. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Apparently, you're holding on to Romans ch. 7, because like me before, just to make excuse for one's sins as Christians. But when the window to ch. 8 was opened to my understanding, am able to comprehend and perceive since.

That as a redeemed from the fleshly and sinful life, now a born again Christian. There's no excuse. for me to return to things of the flesh, it's affections and lusts, and sin, which is against the Spirit.

Even if i have been partly living to the things of the flesh and partly to the things of the Spirit. Hence apparently there's conflict, since the flesh lusts against the Spirit and the Spirit against the flesh. And these are contrary the one to the other, so that i cannot do the things that i would.

So the solution is: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.

You tried to twist the meaning of 1 John 3:8 just as you do with every other verse, but I'm here to expose your doctrine of Demons by reminding you that your interpretation of the verse is as ridiculous as can be. According to your interpretation, everyone is going to be cast into the lake of fire, because we are all the children of the Devil. Well I'm here to remind you that I am an Elect saint of God, so I am His child and not the Devils so your interpretation is blasphemous.

The Jews like you as blind guides on that day, did say the same to Jesus, that the GOD of Abraham is their FATHER. But Jesus replied to them, as a lesson to you, that; You are of your father the devil, and his will you shall do.

They even accused Jesus of having a demon in Him, and He cast out demons by the power of the chief demon. These you are doing as well against his saints, recognizing by your fruit.

My verse destroys yours again, Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

This is the beginning stages of the Gospel proclaiming salvation, and we have way passed that. Now we're in the things of the Spirit to become servants of every good works in the Kingdom of GOD.

We no longer think like you who is yet to the things of the flesh and an ongoing sinner till the day you die.

 

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Getting back to the point i was originally trying to make, that a born again Christian who is indwelt by the Holy Spirit is not immune to sin.
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So…?
The Power of the Holy Spirit “IN” a man…
FAILS at keeping that man FROM sin and temptations?

What does…this mean to you?

1 John 4:
[4] Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

What does….this mean to you?

1 John 3:
[9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Glory to God,
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