Satan Demons Angels and Spiritual Warfare

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Like everyone else, you have zero power against the powers of darkness. That's just nonsense, it shows you don't know your enemy or His schemes. That makes you a sitting duck.


Not true…
A SAVED man has two things others do not.
* Power of Gods Spirit…”IN” them.
* Armour of God.

The Power of God IN a Saved man…is CONSTANT.

The Amour of God, is pretty much the “clothing” an individual should don daily…

Because true that…a person may not particularly be a TARGET of a fallen angel (demon), but demons are everywhere watching for Weaknesses in men to take advantage of that Weakness,

As well human men in Power positions and positions of Influence are also busy causing chaos, stirring strife among the people at large, to then step up and use their Power / Influence to promote themselves AS THE SOLUTION to the trials and tribulations they have been instrumental in creating and fostering.


Eph 6:
10] Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
[11] Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
[12] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
[13] Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
[14] Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
[15] And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;[/B]
[16] Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
[17] And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

God bless you.

Glory to God,
Taken
 

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Go on ahead in your partly flesh and partly Spirit faith theology, and wrestling match. Hence, copy and paste scripture taken out of context to justify your 'shortsighted' faith. That, you're a sinner and unable to mortify the deeds of the flesh with the Spirit, and stop sinning. Henceforth, further beguile others to remain where they are like you.

But scripture in context and wisdom given me, teaches me that i have no fellowship with 'imposters' and 'counterfeits' among us.

Dear genuine readers,

Romans 8:
12. Therefore brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13. For if we live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.


This epistle is addressed to born again church believers, to be read in their congregation, period
As an Elect Saint of God, it is my duty to seek the truth in all matters and to proclaim it to the whole world. I was hoping you could sharpen my sword, but all you have offered so far is your private opinions and not a single one is supported by Gods Word.

The tragic part is, you reject correction and sound doctrine. That leads me to believe that you have come under strong delusion, because a fool hates you for correcting him but a wise man loves you for it.

You again demonstrate you ignorance by trying to make Roams 8:13 say that born again believers live a sinless life. That is a lie from the pits of hell and you know it. Show me one single believer who has ever managed to live without sinning every single day. I will give you my hose if you find such an one.

Paul said "if you do mortify the deeds of the flesh". He never said if you "have mortified the deeds of the flesh" I have to give you another lesson on simple English words. "Do" means you're doing something, "Have" means you've done something, you mix everything up so much that it becomes nonsense.

Why would Paul admit that he is dominated by his sin nature if he already mortified the flesh, you just don't make any sense at all.
 

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Not true…
A SAVED man has two things others do not.
* Power of Gods Spirit…”IN” them.
* Armour of God.

The Power of God IN a Saved man…is CONSTANT.

The Amour of God, is pretty much the “clothing” an individual should don daily…

Because true that…a person may not particularly be a TARGET of a fallen angel (demon), but demons are everywhere watching for Weaknesses in men to take advantage of that Weakness,

As well human men in Power positions and positions of Influence are also busy causing chaos, stirring strife among the people at large, to then step up and use their Power / Influence to promote themselves AS THE SOLUTION to the trials and tribulations they have been instrumental in creating and fostering.


Eph 6:
10] Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
[11] Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
[12] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
[13] Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
[14] Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
[15] And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;[/B]
[16] Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
[17] And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

God bless you.

Glory to God,
Taken
I can't remember who I was responding to with that comment, but I was trying to say that mankind is powerless against the powers of darkness. I didn't say that the Holy Spirit is powerless against them, I'm sure everyone would agree that the Holy Spirit is all powerful and nobody can overcome Him.

I was trying to make the point that, we don't overcome the Devil and His Demons, with our power. They are overcome by the Holy Spirit who resides within born again believers. So He is the One who overcomes them, on our behalf.

I know Christ gave His Apostles the power to cast out Demons and heal the sick and a whole lot of other special gifts, but they weren't given to anyone else after them. Some claim that they have those powers today, but there is nothing in the bible to suggest that anyone else was ever given such power and gifts.

We are responsible to be sober and put on the whole armor of God, because our adversary is looking for any weakness that He can use to destroy our testimony and render us ineffective to preach the gospel to every creature.
 
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Being a spiritual creature, He is bound in spiritual chains, so now He's just a dog on a shot leash who can't go anywhere or do anything without the express permission of God, His Master.
This is the type of fabrication we were talking about. What's happening here is you don't understand the Scriptural symbol of chains and I doubt you want to....am I right?

Even if proven you would still hold to this false notion

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It is false to say that a born again believer who is indwelt by the Holy Spirit is given over to sin as an unbeliever is, but I don't claim that we do that.

All I was saying is, that every single born again believer who is indwelt by The Holy Spirit will sin every single day for the rest of their lives. I wish someone could show me some biblical evidence that we can go a single day without sinning, I know it's not possible and everyone knows it's not possible.

The difference between my sin and an unbelievers sin is, my sins are not counted against me, while every single sin of the unbeliever is counted against him and he will punished for every single one of them in hell.

The whole purpose of Jesus coming into the world was to pay for all of the sins of all of those Hs father gave Him. That means that He paid for all of our past present and future sins, that's why my sins are not counted against me.

Some accuse Jesus of giving Gods elect a license to sin, it's not true. The opposite is true, unbelievers have given themselves a license to sin, while Gods Children wrestle against the temptation to sin all the time. We don't win every match but we will have the final victory when we attain sinless perfection in the life to come.
 

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This is the type of fabrication we were talking about. What's happening here is you don't understand the Scriptural symbol of chains and I doubt you want to....am I right?

Even if proven you would still hold to this false notion

F2F

Every created and made “spirit” and “human”….SOUL becomes “bound” by their “own” TRUE belief and declaration…

When, where, how, IF, a “binding” is “loosened”, and for what PURPOSE thereof is “according to Gods Will”.

There ARE…souls of men….BOUND in hell.
There ARE…spirits /angels..BOUND in hell.
There ARE…souls of men….BOUND in heaven
“Loosing” of the BINDINGS…or “Location” of the entity so BOUND”…is according to the time frame and will of God.

IOW…binding and loosening is in regard to “spiritual things”….

Glory to God,
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It is false to say that a born again believer who is indwelt by the Holy Spirit is given over to sin as an unbeliever is, but I don't claim that we do that.


Okay.

All I was saying is, that every single born again believer who is indwelt by The Holy Spirit will sin every single day for the rest of their lives. I wish someone could show me some biblical evidence that we can go a single day without sinning, I know it's not possible and everyone knows it's not possible.

Perhaps you could DEFINE your understanding of the meaning of SIN.

Examples of what are DAILY ACTS of SIN you are talking about.

Thanks,

Glory to God,
Taken
 

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Every created and made “spirit” and “human”….SOUL becomes “bound” by their “own” TRUE belief and declaration…

When, where, how, IF, a “binding” is “loosened”, and for what PURPOSE thereof is “according to Gods Will”.

There ARE…souls of men….BOUND in hell.
There ARE…spirits /angels..BOUND in hell.
There ARE…souls of men….BOUND in heaven
“Loosing” of the BINDINGS…or “Location” of the entity so BOUND”…is according to the time frame and will of God.

IOW…binding and loosening is in regard to “spiritual things”….

Glory to God,
Taken
You have no support and you know it but you persist with the fanciful notions. I've come to the realization the motivation to hold such false views is a way of blaming and pushing the responsibility away from yourself.

In reality you are no different to Adam blaming Eve blaming the serpent etc.

You have allowed mythological heresies to infect your mind.

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This is the type of fabrication we were talking about. What's happening here is you don't understand the Scriptural symbol of chains and I doubt you want to....am I right?

Even if proven you would still hold to this false notion

F2F
How can you prove what spiritual chains look like, spiritual things are invisible. So I have now idea what your trying to say here.

It doesn't need to be complicated, I'm satisfied with spiritual chains. I don't think an extra layer of confusion will help anyone
 

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Okay.



Perhaps you could DEFINE your understanding of the meaning of SIN.

Examples of what are DAILY ACTS of SIN you are talking about.

Thanks,

Glory to God,
Taken
I'm talking about the type of sin, Paul described when He said "that which I would do, that I do not but that which I would not do, that I do". Paul was describing his wrestling against temptation and admitting that he does that which he doesn't want to do.

In my daily life, I commit sins like having that second look at a scantly dressed woman on the road, while I'm waiting at traffic lights in my car. I didn't set out to find her, but I found myself having that second look and had to repent immediately and look away. I already committed the sin of looking at the woman in the wrong way, it was unintentional but none the less is it sin.

I think that's what Paul meant by wrestling, I let my guard down and found that I had reverted back to my old nature.
 

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How can you prove what spiritual chains look like, spiritual things are invisible. So I have now idea what your trying to say here.

It doesn't need to be complicated, I'm satisfied with spiritual chains. I don't think an extra layer of confusion will help anyone
All good....you have your mind made up so it truth isn't important to you. It's the same as those conversations I had with ReChoired who failed to respond to 70% of the replies. If you don't have the support of Scripture how can you respond?

In the end your silence condemns you.

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@Christian Soldier the Lord is not so concerned about how sad we feel about what we say, or don't say, he is only concerned with what is true and how we respond to that truth.
 

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All good....you have your mind made up so it truth isn't important to you. It's the same as those conversations I had with ReChoired who failed to respond to 70% of the replies. If you don't have the support of Scripture how can you respond?

In the end your silence condemns you.

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I didn't think I had to prove the obvious to you.
 

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@Christian Soldier the Lord is not so concerned about how sad we feel about what we say, or don't say, he is only concerned with what is true and how we respond to that truth.
I'm like a magnet for the truth, I'm attracted to it and I love to embrace it. So, don't feel offended if I reject somethings you say.
I have never rejected anything that is true, and I would be most interested to know if I ever did.
 

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I'm like a magnet for the truth, I'm attracted to it and I love to embrace it. So, don't feel offended if I reject somethings you say.
I have never rejected anything that is true, and I would be most interested to know if I ever did.
What I've seen so far in all our conversations is your magnetism is toward the doctrines and teachings of men - you know, it hurts but what else can you do if thats all you know?
 

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Genuine born again readers, be not beguiled, by false testimonies and doctrine of one who is haughty and wise in one's own conceit.

Romans 8:
8. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please GOD.
Sorry to burst your bubbles, this is referring to the born again church and not unbelievers. The letter is read in the churches for every born again believer, and not read to outsiders. or the world.

Unless an outsider walks into the church, he or she will be able to hear it.
 

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What I've seen so far in all our conversations is your magnetism is toward the doctrines and teachings of men - you know, it hurts but what else can you do if thats all you know?
That's quite hypocritical of you, since every single person in the world only knows those things that have been handed down to them from previous generations and our teachers.
No person has ever discovered something new for themselves, because even those who supposedly discovered things like the theory of gravity, were educated by others who led them to discover these things.

You're pumped up with foolish pride, claiming to be some great one but you are nothing but a common garden variety punter who is testing the water like everyone else, you have never discovered anything g of any value. All you have is your private opinions which can't be supported by the bible so they are completely useless.